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Brian Ross
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freediver wrote on Nov 30 th, 2018 at 7:14pm: Brian Ross wrote on Nov 30 th, 2018 at 4:23pm: freediver wrote on Nov 30 th, 2018 at 1:18pm: Brian Ross wrote on Nov 30 th, 2018 at 12:16am: freediver wrote on Nov 29 th, 2018 at 10:07pm: Brian Ross wrote on Nov 29 th, 2018 at 10:01pm: freediver wrote on Nov 29 th, 2018 at 7:33pm: Quote:Actually, FD, it was YOU, not ME who introduced the idea that a dictator (ie, "Hitler") was a good example of a Christian ruler. The only examples you gave to characterise Christianity were of dictators - particularly nasty ones. Really? Who? I gave examples of monarchs, FD. YOU gave the example of a dictator. Tsk, tsk, perhaps you need to learn the difference?  What's the difference between a king and a dictator Brian? Or an emperor for that matter, since you threw in one of those as well? Did you learn to fear actually discussing religion in your doctor of divinity sessions, or were you already too scared? Oh, I can discuss religion. What I learnt, FD is that it is better to remain silent rather than remove any doubt that you're a fool. I am quite willing to discuss Christianity because I know quite a lot about Christianity. I am not willing to discuss Islam because I am quite willing to admit that I know very little about it. You, OTOH, appear only too willing to make sure we know you're a fool. What's the difference between a king and a dictator Brian? Or an emperor for that matter, since you threw in one of those as well? One is crowned, the other is not. One draws his reign from a mandate from heaven, the other from the strength of his followers. Quote:Why do you use kings and emperors to reflect Christianity, while being so afraid to use Christian doctrine, or the words and actions of the founder of the religion?
Perhaps because the words and actions of the founder are essentially meaningless compared to the words and actions of his followers. Afterall, the founder is dead, the followers are alive, now are they not? Quote:And other than deliberately misrepresenting the religion, how exactly do you discuss it without actually saying anything about it? By discussing what it's followers and believers are doing? Nah, that'd make it so much harder to claim they are all Terrorists, now wouldn't it, FD? Tsk, tsk. Keep trying to justify your attempts to persecute innocent people, FD. It is amusing watching you twist and turn. So the important distinction you are making is whether a ruler wears a crown? And usually how they gained that crown, FD. Hitler attempted to seize control of Germany through a Coup, when that failed he decided to do it via the ballot box. Most Monarchs inherit their Kingdoms/Empires. Quote: Quote:By discussing what it's followers and believers are doing? Nah, that'd make it so much harder to claim they are all Terrorists, now wouldn't it, FD? If a religious person picks their nose, what does it tall you about their religion? Absolutely nothing. I have known numerous Christian nose-pickers. Are all Christians nose-pickers? That is your level of logic, FD. Quote:Are you afraid to talk about Islamic doctrine because it makes Muslims look bad? Nope. I am afraid to talk about it 'cause it would make me look foolish. I am quite willing to admit that I do not know as much about Islam as I do Christianity. I was born and raised a Christian. I did not encounter a Muslim until I had been in the army for ~4 years (approximately 22 years old). I have in the intervening ~35 years encountered quite a few more. I have studied with/worked with other Muslims. I have discussed superficially their religion with them. I have only really started studying it in depth since I joined this fora and encountered the level of Islamophobia here. Islamophobia does not gell with my experience with Muslims. As I keep saying, I do not doubt there are bad Muslims out there. I am yet to encounter one. How old were you before you encountered your first Muslim, FD? Have you physically encountered one yet? Yet you believe you are an expert on Islam. I wonder how much of your expertise comes from Dr. Google? Mmmm?
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