China's expansion into the Asian Pacific region needs to be viewed with all the seriousness that partners in the ASEAN conference obviously do

The agreement to build a Naval Base on Manus Island which will be  mounted by a partnership of Asian nations is drawing a line in the sand to the Chinese

The Chinese already have a road building and construction program underway particularly in South Pacific nations which are poor. These are in the form of 'loans' which it is patently clear they have no hope of repaying. Often these projects are nonsensicle and not needed

However China's strategy is to have these Countries 'indebted' to them thereby creating huge leverage

It is welcoming that the U.S. in particular recognises the immense danger that China poses as it flexes its muscle in the Pacific with its 'building' of islands then militarising them

We should be distancing ourselves from China it has already been exposed that China has directed its huge companies such as Huwaii to spy on foreign Governments and customers

China is the Big Brother that Orwell predicted and we must resist it with all our might

Have you had a look at China's policies in regard to human freedom?

They don't exist

China's record  of human rights is deplorable and they have butchered countless thousands of dissidents

We don't need their crap in our part of the world

Incidentally Globalisation is just another word for what Hitler did with Germany's expansionism prior to and in the second world war

Many here cheered when the ABC were forced out of Pacific broadcasting by Liberal government cuts.

Every single broadcast frequency the ABC gave up was picked up by the Chinese government.

Where 5 years ago the major broadcast voice across much of the Pacific was Australian today it is exclusively Chinese.

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 8:13am:


You seem happy to oppose one ? Why not the other as well ?

It was economically socially ethically and in terms of Australia's security stupid for the Australian government to have achieved this result through their combined greed dogma driven nastiness and stinginess.

Yes the Liberals dishonest dogma driven desire to stitch up the ABC resulted in seriously damaging Australia's and the western worlds position in the pacific and very significantly advantaging a large powerful competitor in the region. Nothing short of incompetent.

I'll say it again - the Chinese people overall are fine - their ruling oligarchy are among the most rapacious exploitationist parasites and thieves in the world - hence my use of the terms New Emperor and New Mandarins.

The New Empirists use every facet of Chinese society - including military control via fear in the populace to keep them in line, economic factors and everything else - to cement their own place at the top in the most extreme and opulent luxury. **

Always been the same in Asia - always will be.

** as I've said many times - our Great Leaders view this with envy.... hence the constant attacks on human and civil rights here in many, many ways, and the constant undermining of Australian values in every way.

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 8:13am:



... unless we lock the gates now....... thank you for your support....

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 8:36am:


Chinese people - Chinese government and its policies and focuses.... big difference.  Unfortunately while ever that government exists and prospers, we are unable to welcome Chinese who in many instances are unwitting servitors of this expansionist government.

Not a nice choice - but there it is. 

Red Baron nailed it with his comparison with Hitlerian European expansionism.... it isn't just the Chinese - it is the entire 'globalist' clique, but the Chinese government certainly knows how to exploit any gap.

red baron wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 8:04am:


Having been in China recently, that was so apparent. They are all living under heavy rulership. Yes, the Uni students in the 1980's did try to change that, against dictatorship, in Tiananmen Square, with slogans such as "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" and "Give me democracy or give me death" etc.
Then the armoured tanks came in, and slaughtered 7000 of them.

So this Mao Zedong (China Communist Revolutionary), who died in 1976, whose huge picture is up on display facing towards Tiananmen Square, for what purpose? To remind people of his dicatorship where under his ruling of the "Great Leap Forward" he massacred 45 million of his own people in 4 year span! Making him the No. 1 worst mass murderer in history.
So how do people live in China? I will tell you, with their tails tucked between their legs, in fear, oppresssed.
We were told, to not say anything about the massacre whilst we were in Tiananmen Square, because there are "spys" everywhere.

Yes, the big thing was "dissidents do disappear in China" !

I wonder Term Dog, your friend that helps the Chinese Govt. and become well paid for it, is a type of spy for them, using his anglo saxoness, since he had nothing, as you said, and now he is very wealthy, of course, they now control him that way. Amazing how he has become so 'wealthy' with a use, whilst many Chinese people are so oppressed, why use him and not one of their own?

My hubby and I were just talking about China, the good and the bad, yesterday, on our way to Tullamarine Airport, and seeing the roads are finally finished almost, then coming onto a part that was getting prepped for a new sealing, and I said, I don't see it happening soon, there are no machines anywhere.
We then say, in China, it would be done much quicker, and how great their roads and workmanship was over there. Brilliant in fact. Enviably so.
Then we thought of how people live, not even allowed to buy their own house, living in high rise apartments leased from the government for a 70 year life span.
So we both said, there is good, and bad about China.
Roads and contruction, amazing....people treatment, not so.
There is no unemployment payment, everyone has to work, do something to get paid. The elderly, have to be looked after by their young, no pension either there. I saw elderly people as street cleaners. The ones that were still fit and able. There were no 'wheelchair access' anywhere!
Obviously, the government have no patience for the disabled.

Don't say I didn't warn you, if we are going to be globalized by the China way of life? Be prepared to let go of the liberties we now so freely have.