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Re: Cyclist safety
Reply #15 - Nov 16^th, 2018 at 4:12pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 16^th, 2018 at 3:15pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 16^th, 2018 at 3:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 16^th, 2018 at 12:49pm:

Valkie wrote on Nov 16^th, 2018 at 12:34pm:

I have also seen how bike riders treat pedestrians.
They yell at them to get out of the way, they bump them, scream at them and demand right of way when, in reality, the pedestrian has right of way.

This is true.

I've been abused by bike riders several times, out the front of my office, for simply being on the footpath.

Some are unbelievably rude.

They're the ones who make it bad for all the good bike riders out there.

Because motorists are always so polite and respectful, and never use their horns in anger Wink

99% are.

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Reply #16 - Nov 16^th, 2018 at 4:28pm

All I'm saying is that you must ride to survive

If that means giving way to a car, riding in areas where it's safe, not on major arterial roads, and don't try and be the big tough lycra clad Looney, so be it.

Pennant hills road is literally clogged with cars every day and night
Parramatta road is clogged with cars
The Pacific highway is clogged with cars
These are three major, and poorly built roads
There is no bike lanes and the lanes are barely wide enough for a car let alone a truck

But on any day, there is some live a clad Looney riding along, at walking pace, holding up traffic and giving everyone the bird and a mouthful if they complain.

They creep between cars, bumping mirrors, scratching paintwork to get to the front, only to take off at walking pace and holding up everyone again.

Surely they could find a better place to ride and allow people to get to work?

And this ridiculous 1 metre rule means you can't pass them except in the next lane.
They are nothing but a moving road block.

Common sense, a bit of courtesy for other road users and less attitude is the way to go.

And don't say more bike tracks
The ones we have are used by very few riders
They prefer to hold up traffic and prove their right to ride

Until they get squashed that is.

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Re: Cyclist safety
Reply #17 - Nov 17^th, 2018 at 9:15am

I live in a part of Melbourne that has alot of bike trails. One called capital city trail can get me from a park near my home to the city with only 1 to 2 traffic lights. So i consider myself lucky. I would never ride on the roads to the city, as its too dangerous. And i get very nervous when I know there is cars behind my back staring at me as I hold up the traffic.

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Reply #18 - Nov 17^th, 2018 at 9:26am

I give bike riders full respect on the road, They are entitled to the lane they are in - all of it.

When I finally get past a bike like everyone else there is a significant relief. On occasion I have passed a bike rider after much delay to stop at the next lights and see the bike wander down between traffic to the front of the queue.

The second time I pass the ignorant pick I just blow straight past him at the first half chance.

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Re: Cyclist safety
Reply #19 - Nov 17^th, 2018 at 11:37pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 16^th, 2018 at 12:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 16^th, 2018 at 12:11pm:

Anyone who went to primary school in the '60s and '70s, as I did, will remember these safety messages on the back of their school exercise books:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c4/ca/86/c4ca86bf0c6c07b043f2f927690f1094.jpg

LSD was also legal back then.

I remember the LATTER - but not the FORMER ?

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Re: Cyclist safety
Reply #20 - Nov 18^th, 2018 at 12:45am

The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 16^th, 2018 at 3:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 16^th, 2018 at 12:49pm:

Valkie wrote on Nov 16^th, 2018 at 12:34pm:

I have also seen how bike riders treat pedestrians.
They yell at them to get out of the way, they bump them, scream at them and demand right of way when, in reality, the pedestrian has right of way.

This is true.

I've been abused by bike riders several times, out the front of my office, for simply being on the footpath.

Some are unbelievably rude.

They're the ones who make it bad for all the good bike riders out there.

Because motorists are always so polite and respectful, and never use their horns in anger Wink

The best retaliation the cyclist can have against recalcitrant motorists - is the water pistol - filled with paint stripper

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Re: Cyclist safety
Reply #21 - Nov 18^th, 2018 at 7:28am

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 12:45am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 16^th, 2018 at 3:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 16^th, 2018 at 12:49pm:

Valkie wrote on Nov 16^th, 2018 at 12:34pm:

I have also seen how bike riders treat pedestrians.
They yell at them to get out of the way, they bump them, scream at them and demand right of way when, in reality, the pedestrian has right of way.

This is true.

I've been abused by bike riders several times, out the front of my office, for simply being on the footpath.

Some are unbelievably rude.

They're the ones who make it bad for all the good bike riders out there.

Because motorists are always so polite and respectful, and never use their horns in anger Wink

The best retaliation the cyclist can have against recalcitrant motorists - is the water pistol - filled with paint stripper

Then a cop would shoot you....so I say try it. Wink

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Term Dog Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1727 Gender:	Re: Cyclist safety Reply #22 - Nov 18^th, 2018 at 8:20am Aaaah CYCLIST SAFETY!!!!! I read the thread and posts as Cyber safety and was thinking you guys had lost it. SMH
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Re: Cyclist safety
Reply #23 - Nov 18^th, 2018 at 8:41am

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 12:45am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 16^th, 2018 at 3:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 16^th, 2018 at 12:49pm:

Valkie wrote on Nov 16^th, 2018 at 12:34pm:

I have also seen how bike riders treat pedestrians.
They yell at them to get out of the way, they bump them, scream at them and demand right of way when, in reality, the pedestrian has right of way.

This is true.

I've been abused by bike riders several times, out the front of my office, for simply being on the footpath.

Some are unbelievably rude.

They're the ones who make it bad for all the good bike riders out there.

Because motorists are always so polite and respectful, and never use their horns in anger Wink

The best retaliation the cyclist can have against recalcitrant motorists - is the water pistol - filled with paint stripper

oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....

the best thing we can all do is get

RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER.

a bit of give and take....whatever happened to all that? Sad

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Re: Cyclist safety
Reply #24 - Nov 18^th, 2018 at 3:02pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 12:45am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 16^th, 2018 at 3:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 16^th, 2018 at 12:49pm:

Valkie wrote on Nov 16^th, 2018 at 12:34pm:

I have also seen how bike riders treat pedestrians.
They yell at them to get out of the way, they bump them, scream at them and demand right of way when, in reality, the pedestrian has right of way.

This is true.

I've been abused by bike riders several times, out the front of my office, for simply being on the footpath.

Some are unbelievably rude.

They're the ones who make it bad for all the good bike riders out there.

Because motorists are always so polite and respectful, and never use their horns in anger Wink

The best retaliation the cyclist can have against recalcitrant motorists - is the water pistol - filled with paint stripper

That's real smart

And then drivers fill their windscreen washers with acid or oil

The best thing riders can do is to use courtesy and get off major arterial roads at peak hour.

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Term Dog Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1727 Gender:	Re: Cyclist safety Reply #25 - Nov 18^th, 2018 at 3:49pm Cyclists don't pay rego for their bikes so they don't have the same rights as car drivers.
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Cyclist safety Reply #26 - Nov 19^th, 2018 at 8:41am Term Dog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 3:49pm: Cyclists don't pay rego for their bikes so they don't have the same rights as car drivers. I pay rego for my car, I pay insurance. You can stick that tired argument in your fat roll.
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Reply #27 - Nov 19^th, 2018 at 8:49am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 8:41am:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 3:49pm:

Cyclists don't pay rego for their bikes so they don't have the same rights as car drivers.

I pay rego for my car, I pay insurance. You can stick that tired argument in your fat roll.

So do you pay rego on all road going vehicles...or just one?
I pay rego on my car...why isn't my trailer covered under that same rego....or my dirtbike?

You can stick that tired old argument in your fat roll.
Register your bike or get the farrkk off the road.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 80205 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Cyclist safety Reply #28 - Nov 19^th, 2018 at 8:57am Cyclists are safe around me on the road - just not around themselves at times.... perfect example was driving up Mt Wellington in Hobart yesterday.. narrow road - two cyclists came down at speed and cut corners... big thrill but stupid... anyone but me would probably take one out..
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Re: Cyclist safety
Reply #29 - Nov 19^th, 2018 at 8:59am

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 8:49am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 8:41am:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 3:49pm:

Cyclists don't pay rego for their bikes so they don't have the same rights as car drivers.

I pay rego for my car, I pay insurance. You can stick that tired argument in your fat roll.

So do you pay rego on all road going vehicles...or just one?
I pay rego on my car...why isn't my trailer covered under that same rego....or my dirtbike?

You can stick that tired old argument in your fat roll.
Register your bike or get the farrkk off the road.

Spent 105 km on the road yesterday, tough titties.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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