Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 21
st, 2018 at 8:01pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 21
st, 2018 at 11:59am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 21
st, 2018 at 9:34am:
muslims regard religion before life.
That is fundamentally contradictory and nonsensical - for anyone who spends more than 2 seconds thinking about it (muslim or not).
Furthermore, thats the first time I've seen that list of yours, and it also makes little sense.
We
know it makes little sense Gandalf, glad you finally admit it. So now, try telling Plumpton Islamic school or any other Islamic school, see if you can convince them
Plumpton site
http://www.westerngrammar.com.au/educational-philosophy.html
Our educational philosophy is mostly based upon the following inherited beliefs derived from the Quran and Sunnah, which is also followed by prominent people in human history.
• Read! In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists) (Al- Quran)
Core of Islamic Law or Shariah
The core of Islamic Law is preservation of:
1) Religion
2) Life
3) Family
4) Mind5) Wealth
6) Some contemporary scholars suggest either justice or liberty to be the sixth category.
In the vision of Islam, they are known as "essentials" because they are considered essential to human welfare.
In conclude, if someone were to ask, what is the core of Islam in the fewest possible words, the answer would be, "it is within the word Islam itself: to serve, worship, and lovingly submit to God."
Islam site
http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/10256/ - scroll down
You've seen it now Gandalf, don't tell me you haven't seen it before, it's the first thing muslims learn besides watching youtube vids of killings in the name of Allah
What sort of convert would you be not knowing the cores of islam and their order of importance?
"Mind" comes in at number 4, right where your mind is, not number 1, but number 4
It's only a number 4 mind that would suggest that muslim killers are not initially part of the muslim community. It's only
after they kill or get caught out by the AFP that you and your fellow apologists conveniently describe the situation as "lone wolves", "mentally ill", "religious extremists", "haven't really got anything to do with the rest of the community's Islam", "don't blame us" etc
But before they kill, they are part of the muslim community, you know that to be true as much as muslims and everybody else does. Therefore it's the responsibility of the muslim community and those who brought muslims here, to eradicate the killers before they kill, and get it done sooner rather than later, the AFP is overloaded and short of funds, as well as that, the job for the AFP investigating muslims is a job that will go on in perpetuity while ever there are muslims in Australia
It's not up to the rest of us to sort it out, we just want to get on with our lives in peace and not have to look over our shoulders every few steps while walking down the street
While ever you have a number 4 mind Gandalf, I for one won't take anything you say about muslims seriously until you admit that the muslim community should do a lot more to assist the govt in every way possible to weed out the potential killers in their midst and make it easy for them to leave Australia. Dogged resistance to that is only going to result in more attacks
A majority of muftis who reject a Prime Minister's call, any prime minister, for assistance to help out with the issue, are, by inference, condoning past killings and any killings and maiming in the future, and if you support those uncooperative muftis, you are a witting uncooperative partner to them
Do your own dirty work cleaning up, and don't expect the community as a whole to do it for you, muslims made the mess, it's up to them to clean it up
It's bad enough that there was those pedophile priests, but now, muslim attacks are replacing that malignant cancer on society with a new malignant cancer, originating from within the muslim community
You do know of course, those two muslims in Colo who refused to abide by Council rules were charged and locked up until bailed. They will face court. Now why in the world would they want to ignore the Council? they were told their charity didn't cut it to break official rules. So, what are they in your estimation? lone wolves, mentally ill, hasn't got anything to do with Islam? (when it had everything to to with Islam and they don't recognize Australian law). Muslims are crazy, they don't deserve our respect