greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 16
th, 2018 at 10:45am:
juliar wrote on Nov 16
th, 2018 at 10:44am:
Geggy shows why he is universally ignored as the Village Idiot - out of touch and out of his depth.
Those workers were better off overall, though (BOOT - Better Off Overall Test).
They (all workers - not just those working on Sundays) had higher base rates, negotiated by the Union.
Cuts to penalty rates in Modern Awards, however, aren't compensated for with higher base rates.
You'd know that if you knew what you were talking about.
But if you knew what you were talking about you wouldn't be juliar, would you?
(juliar has never heard of the BOOT. Lol)
Sorry Greg but the Boot test is worthless junk it actually undermines wages.
However the workers mentioned have just signed another enterprise agreement on similar terms because they are better off even though it isn't great.
The boot test is only good to undermine any above award pay and especially conditions.
One of the larger problems with negotiating enterprise agreements is that the business does not have to release any commercial information. This effectivly means that when the employer says that they have done the sums and the employees are better off the employees and Unions have no means to confirm that it is correct.
In the case of the numbers from the poster this is exactly what happened. The employer assured everyone including the fair work umpire that employees were better off.
The difference between them being better off and not was simply a matter of the rostering used. Turns out that in some of those companies employees were not better off.
Part of the problem is that if they go back to the award they lose non award conditions like extra breaks and discount cards which have significant value.
There is still a huge problem in IR and the unions are far from perfect but the employer side has way too much power and umpire is useless the rule book was flawed and biased from the start.
They almost need to throw it all out and start again.