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I'm now a Muslim
Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:25pm
 
After a discussion with Gandalf, and confirmation that a Muslim is whatever a person claims him or herself to be, I've decided that I am now a Muslim.

Because religious beliefs are subjective and it's not up to anyone to tell me who is and who isn't a Muslim, I'm going to identify myself as a Muslim but I don't believe that Muhammad was the Final Prophet, or even a Prophet to begin with. I don't believe the Quran is the Word of God. Heck! I don't even believe in God myself.

I'm just a Muslim.
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Reply #1 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:31pm
 
Auggie wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:25pm:
After a discussion with Gandalf, and confirmation that a Muslim is whatever a person claims him or herself to be, I've decided that I am now a Muslim.

Because religious beliefs are subjective and it's not up to anyone to tell me who is and who isn't a Muslim, I'm going to identify myself as a Muslim but I don't believe that Muhammad was the Final Prophet, or even a Prophet to begin with. I don't believe the Quran is the Word of God. Heck! I don't even believe in God myself.

I'm just a Muslim.



Can I be a Muslim too?
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الحمد لله
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
الحمد لله



Yeah, I think.
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الحمد لله


Al hamidu allah!
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Is Auggie now a terrorist?
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Bobby. wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:38pm:
Is Auggie now a terrorist?


White dog.
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Bobby. wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:38pm:
Is Auggie now a terrorist?


Not a terrorist. Just a Muslim.

I don't subscribe to terrorist or fanatical beliefs.
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Reply #8 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:50pm
 
Auggie wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:38pm:
Is Auggie now a terrorist?


Not a terrorist. Just a Muslim.

I don't subscribe to terrorist or fanatical beliefs.



We need to get Yadda's advice.
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Reply #9 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:51pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:50pm:
Auggie wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:38pm:
Is Auggie now a terrorist?


Not a terrorist. Just a Muslim.

I don't subscribe to terrorist or fanatical beliefs.



We need to get Yadda's advice.


Yadda will say that Allah rejects innovations.
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Term Dog wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:31pm:
Auggie wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:25pm:
After a discussion with Gandalf, and confirmation that a Muslim is whatever a person claims him or herself to be, I've decided that I am now a Muslim.

Because religious beliefs are subjective and it's not up to anyone to tell me who is and who isn't a Muslim, I'm going to identify myself as a Muslim but I don't believe that Muhammad was the Final Prophet, or even a Prophet to begin with. I don't believe the Quran is the Word of God. Heck! I don't even believe in God myself.

I'm just a Muslim.



Can I be a Muslim too?


Sure, it's all subjective. A Muslim is whatever you think it is.

P.S. One of the benefits of being a Muslim is that you could call people Islamophobes.
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Reply #11 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 8:11pm
 
Auggie wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 8:08pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:31pm:
Auggie wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:25pm:
After a discussion with Gandalf, and confirmation that a Muslim is whatever a person claims him or herself to be, I've decided that I am now a Muslim.

Because religious beliefs are subjective and it's not up to anyone to tell me who is and who isn't a Muslim, I'm going to identify myself as a Muslim but I don't believe that Muhammad was the Final Prophet, or even a Prophet to begin with. I don't believe the Quran is the Word of God. Heck! I don't even believe in God myself.

I'm just a Muslim.



Can I be a Muslim too?


Sure, it's all subjective. A Muslim is whatever you think it is.

P.S. One of the benefits of being a Muslim is that you could call people Islamophobes.



Can I still eat Deluxe Crispy Bacon Burgers?
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Term Dog wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
Auggie wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 8:08pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:31pm:
Auggie wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:25pm:
After a discussion with Gandalf, and confirmation that a Muslim is whatever a person claims him or herself to be, I've decided that I am now a Muslim.

Because religious beliefs are subjective and it's not up to anyone to tell me who is and who isn't a Muslim, I'm going to identify myself as a Muslim but I don't believe that Muhammad was the Final Prophet, or even a Prophet to begin with. I don't believe the Quran is the Word of God. Heck! I don't even believe in God myself.

I'm just a Muslim.



Can I be a Muslim too?


Sure, it's all subjective. A Muslim is whatever you think it is.

P.S. One of the benefits of being a Muslim is that you could call people Islamophobes.



Can I still eat Deluxe Crispy Bacon Burgers?


Sure, you can still be a Muslim and eat pork or drink alcohol if you wish. It's all subjective, remember. Gandalf said so.
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Reply #13 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 8:18pm
 
yeah well I don't think I could handle muslims paradise, well the aliens with big tits maybe, but I wouldn't fit in with the crowd who hung around the little boys, so there I'd be a muslim terrorist in muslim paradise killing muslim martyrs who preferred the little boys.
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Auggie wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 8:15pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
Auggie wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 8:08pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:31pm:
Auggie wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:25pm:
After a discussion with Gandalf, and confirmation that a Muslim is whatever a person claims him or herself to be, I've decided that I am now a Muslim.

Because religious beliefs are subjective and it's not up to anyone to tell me who is and who isn't a Muslim, I'm going to identify myself as a Muslim but I don't believe that Muhammad was the Final Prophet, or even a Prophet to begin with. I don't believe the Quran is the Word of God. Heck! I don't even believe in God myself.

I'm just a Muslim.



Can I be a Muslim too?


Sure, it's all subjective. A Muslim is whatever you think it is.

P.S. One of the benefits of being a Muslim is that you could call people Islamophobes.



Can I still eat Deluxe Crispy Bacon Burgers?


Sure, you can still be a Muslim and eat pork or drink alcohol if you wish. It's all subjective, remember. Gandalf said so.


Cool, I'm in.
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Term Dog wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
Auggie wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 8:08pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:31pm:
Auggie wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:25pm:
After a discussion with Gandalf, and confirmation that a Muslim is whatever a person claims him or herself to be, I've decided that I am now a Muslim.

Because religious beliefs are subjective and it's not up to anyone to tell me who is and who isn't a Muslim, I'm going to identify myself as a Muslim but I don't believe that Muhammad was the Final Prophet, or even a Prophet to begin with. I don't believe the Quran is the Word of God. Heck! I don't even believe in God myself.

I'm just a Muslim.



Can I be a Muslim too?


Sure, it's all subjective. A Muslim is whatever you think it is.

P.S. One of the benefits of being a Muslim is that you could call people Islamophobes.



Can I still eat Deluxe Crispy Bacon Burgers?


Can you afford them?

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Reply #16 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 9:15pm
 
Auggie wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:25pm:
After a discussion with Gandalf, and confirmation that a Muslim is whatever a person claims him or herself to be, I've decided that I am now a Muslim.

Because religious beliefs are subjective and it's not up to anyone to tell me who is and who isn't a Muslim, I'm going to identify myself as a Muslim but I don't believe that Muhammad was the Final Prophet, or even a Prophet to begin with. I don't believe the Quran is the Word of God. Heck! I don't even believe in God myself.

I'm just a Muslim.



Quote:
Allah speaking

Then, you are those [same ones who are] killing one another and evicting a party of your people from their homes, cooperating against them in sin and aggression. And if they come to you as captives, you ransom them, although their eviction was forbidden to you. So do you believe in part of the Scripture and disbelieve in part? Then what is the recompense for those who do that among you except disgrace in worldly life; and on the Day of Resurrection they will be sent back to the severest of punishment. And Allah is not unaware of what you do.
https://quran.com/2/85



No virgins for you it's off to the hellfire where Allah will burn your skin off then replace it so he can burn it off again, this is your destiny.
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Reply #17 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 9:19pm
 
Auggie wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:25pm:

After a discussion with Gandalf, and confirmation that a Muslim is whatever a person claims him or herself to be, I've decided that I am now a Muslim.

Because religious beliefs are subjective and it's not up to anyone to tell me who is and who isn't a Muslim, I'm going to identify myself as a Muslim but I don't believe that Muhammad was the Final Prophet, or even a Prophet to begin with.

I don't believe the Quran is the Word of God.


Heck! I don't even believe in God myself.

I'm just a Muslim.




When you go on the Hajj pilgrimage, and get to Mecca, be sure to tell all of your co-religionists how you practice your faith.


Bye.

It was nice knowing you.




[......one more murderous progressive bites the dust.    Hoorah!]



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Reply #18 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 9:25pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:50pm:
Auggie wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:38pm:
Is Auggie now a terrorist?


Not a terrorist. Just a Muslim.

I don't subscribe to terrorist or fanatical beliefs.



We need to get Yadda's advice.


Moslem == a follower of Islam.
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Reply #19 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 9:28pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 9:25pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:50pm:
Auggie wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:38pm:
Is Auggie now a terrorist?


Not a terrorist. Just a Muslim.

I don't subscribe to terrorist or fanatical beliefs.



We need to get Yadda's advice.


Moslem == a follower of Islam.



Moslem == a follower of Islam <----------- dictionary definition.
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Reply #20 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 9:36pm
 
Auggie wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:25pm:
After a discussion with Gandalf, and confirmation that a Muslim is whatever a person claims him or herself to be, I've decided that I am now a Muslim.

Because religious beliefs are subjective and it's not up to anyone to tell me who is and who isn't a Muslim, I'm going to identify myself as a Muslim but I don't believe that Muhammad was the Final Prophet, or even a Prophet to begin with. I don't believe the Quran is the Word of God. Heck! I don't even believe in God myself.

I'm just a Muslim.


Australia is a Muzlum country too, by Gandalf's reckoning. He also believe Iran should have nuclear weapons, because Western countries have them. And of course he believes that the family and friends of the Martyrs of Islam, have no knowledge of their intentions.
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issuevoter wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 9:36pm:
And of course he believes that the family and friends of the Martyrs of Islam, have no knowledge of their intentions.


quote?
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polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 9:09am:
issuevoter wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 9:36pm:

And of course he believes that the family and friends of the Martyrs of Islam, have no knowledge of their intentions.



quote?




Again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again,        after every terror incident involving a member(s) of some moslem community in a Western nation,
the same lies, the same denials,
its always the same sergeant Shultz denials.

"Oh we are so, so shocked!
We knew nothing of what he intended.
Our innocent children were victims of a bad external influence."
   <----- and when they say this,      they mean,     and they blame, the Western culture which surrounds them!!!    ...and NOT, NOT, NOT,     ISLAM!!!


Whenever the moslem 'can't' tell the truth, whenever the truth would condemn the moslem community,
the moslem will choose to engage in [lying] sophistry.
e.g.
"Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians"



e.g.
Google;
mother of boston bombers, my sons are innocent




Hassan Khalif Shire Ali

Google;
burke street attacker, family well respected


"his family is well known and respected within the Somali community"



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moses wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 8:18pm:
yeah well I don't think I could handle muslims paradise, well the aliens with big tits maybe, but I wouldn't fit in with the crowd who hung around the little boys, so there I'd be a muslim terrorist in muslim paradise killing muslim martyrs who preferred the little boys.



Mmm, as usual, something wrong there with your logic, Moses.  Not unusual I suppose for a well known bigot like you.  I'll let you figure it out.   One advantage though, is that you'd be no longer annoying us, hey?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Careful there forky tongue / lying scum, allah loves me for slaying all the martyrs who prefer the little boys to the aliens with the big boobies.

Us higher grade of muzzies have the secret code, here I'm feeling magnanimous at the moment, it's allah loves those who slay and are slain in his cause.
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moses wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 4:16pm:
Careful there forky tongue / lying scum, allah loves me for slaying all the martyrs who prefer the little boys to the aliens with the big boobies.

Us higher grade of muzzies have the secret code, here I'm feeling magnanimous at the moment, it's allah loves those who slay and are slain in his cause.


Still haven't figured out the flaws in your logic, have you, Moses?   Oh, well, run along back to the little kiddies' playground where you belong.   Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 7:26pm:
moses wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 4:16pm:
Careful there forky tongue / lying scum, allah loves me for slaying all the martyrs who prefer the little boys to the aliens with the big boobies.

Us higher grade of muzzies have the secret code, here I'm feeling magnanimous at the moment, it's allah loves those who slay and are slain in his cause.


Still haven't figured out the flaws in your logic, have you, Moses?   

Being a mail-order doktor, you couldn't articulate that 'flaw' to save your life, bwian.

hint, hint vaguely- that's the limit of your intellect, cat-pissy aunty.

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ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 7:26pm:
moses wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 4:16pm:
Careful there forky tongue / lying scum, allah loves me for slaying all the martyrs who prefer the little boys to the aliens with the big boobies.

Us higher grade of muzzies have the secret code, here I'm feeling magnanimous at the moment, it's allah loves those who slay and are slain in his cause.


Still haven't figured out the flaws in your logic, have you, Moses?   Oh, well, run along back to the little kiddies' playground where you belong.   Roll Eyes



I don't think Brian sees any flaws.......I think he's pretending to in order to appear smart.
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Frank wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 8:01pm:





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Hey Frank,

Can you spot our gandalf down there, among all of those extremists ?


I thought gandalf was trying to convince us, that most moslems were like him ?

You know,      ....peaceful, and innocent, and the majority of them wouldn't hurt a fly.

???        Shocked



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darn, the image won't translate.


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The questions we religion-of-peace skeptics  want answered are ignored.


A brief trip to gore sites which I won't link shows the reality of islam we reject.
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People like that are streaming into Australia and the West.

[url]
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https://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/muslim-listen-a-sermon-outside-...

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A monocultural weed taking over. No women or girls in that picture. And we pretend they are 'equal' to everyone else, culturally.

What a frikken con multiculturalism is!! We are importing, IN THE NAME OF MULTICULTURALISM, people who kill others BECAUSE of their kuffar cultures. Enough. Stop Islamic immigration. It has brought blood and tears already and it will bring on;y more and more of the same.  There is nothing positive about Islamic immigration, only blood and tears.








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Frank wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 9:29pm:
People like that are streaming into Australia and the West.

[url]
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https://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/muslim-listen-a-sermon-outside-...

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/06/04/35FD19E600000578-3676141-image-a-1...

A monocultural weed taking over. No women or girls in that picture. And we pretend they are 'equal' to everyone else, culturally.

What a frikken con multiculturalism is!! We are importing, IN THE NAME OF MULTICULTURALISM, people who kill others BECAUSE of their kuffar cultures. Enough. Stop Islamic immigration. It has brought blood and tears already and it will bring on;y more and more of the same.  There is nothing positive about Islamic immigration, only blood and tears.



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You do know the difference between culture and religion, Soren, I hope?   Nothing of real interest there, just your usual Islamophobia.  Please, run along back to your little kiddies' playground.   Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 10:44pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 9:29pm:
People like that are streaming into Australia and the West.

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A monocultural weed taking over. No women or girls in that picture. And we pretend they are 'equal' to everyone else, culturally.

What a frikken con multiculturalism is!! We are importing, IN THE NAME OF MULTICULTURALISM, people who kill others BECAUSE of their kuffar cultures. Enough. Stop Islamic immigration. It has brought blood and tears already and it will bring on;y more and more of the same.  There is nothing positive about Islamic immigration, only blood and tears.



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You do know the difference between culture and religion, Soren, I hope?   



Tell us the difference as you see it, Bwian, especially for believing, practicing Muslims. I think there is NO difference between culture and religion in their minds. They never tire of re-iterating the inseparability of their culture and religion.

Show how/why I am wrong, if you can.







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Reply #36 - Nov 17th, 2018 at 12:54pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 12:27pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 10:44pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 9:29pm:
People like that are streaming into Australia and the West.

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A monocultural weed taking over. No women or girls in that picture. And we pretend they are 'equal' to everyone else, culturally.

What a frikken con multiculturalism is!! We are importing, IN THE NAME OF MULTICULTURALISM, people who kill others BECAUSE of their kuffar cultures. Enough. Stop Islamic immigration. It has brought blood and tears already and it will bring on;y more and more of the same.  There is nothing positive about Islamic immigration, only blood and tears.



http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

You do know the difference between culture and religion, Soren, I hope?   



Tell us the difference as you see it, Bwian, especially for believing, practicing Muslims. I think there is NO difference between culture and religion in their minds. They never tire of re-iterating the inseparability of their culture and religion.

Show how/why I am wrong, if you can.



Correlation not causation, innit?
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...just a praying in the rain...

...that's what i like to do...

...just conjuring up the pain...

...when I come to kill you...
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I want to be a Muslim too!! Grin Grin Grin
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Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 12:27pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 10:44pm:
You do know the difference between culture and religion, Soren, I hope?   


Tell us the difference as you see it, Bwian, especially for believing, practicing Muslims. I think there is NO difference between culture and religion in their minds. They never tire of re-iterating the inseparability of their culture and religion.

Show how/why I am wrong, if you can.


Well, it's obvious you don't know the difference, Soren, if you're asking such a silly question.  Tell me, is there any difference between a Sephardi and Ashkenazi Jew?  How about a Southern Baptist and a High Anglican Christian?  Mmm, how about a Buddhist from Tibet and a Buddhist from Japan?   Are you getting the hint yet or do I have to continue?

Islam is a multicultural faith.  It overlays cultures from around the world.  From the Philippines to West Africa and all the cultures in between.   Rather like how Christianity overlays cultures from far Northern Russia to far South Terre de Fuego and all the cultures in between.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Muslims are more homogeneous and have few doctrinal divisions than most other religions and really their religion and culture are the same thing.
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Pick me pick me, I want to become a Muslim too!
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Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Muslims are more homogeneous and have few doctrinal divisions than most other religions and really their religion and culture are the same thing.


Matty, you see, has read up on all the Muslim sects, from fundamentalist Wahabism to mystical Sufism. As for culture, well. He's been to all the Muslim places, from Tehran to Timbucktu.

Just don't ask him what sovereignty means, okay? He's still working on that one.
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Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:09pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Muslims are more homogeneous and have few doctrinal divisions than most other religions and really their religion and culture are the same thing.


Matty, you see, has read up on all the Muslim sects, from fundamentalist Wahabism to mystical Sufism. As for culture, well. He's been to all the Muslim places, from Tehran to Timbucktu.

Just don't ask him what sovereignty means, okay? He's still working on that one.

Why are most Muslim countries crap Karnal?
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Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:10pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:09pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Muslims are more homogeneous and have few doctrinal divisions than most other religions and really their religion and culture are the same thing.


Matty, you see, has read up on all the Muslim sects, from fundamentalist Wahabism to mystical Sufism. As for culture, well. He's been to all the Muslim places, from Tehran to Timbucktu.

Just don't ask him what sovereignty means, okay? He's still working on that one.

Why are most Muslim countries crap Karnal?



Why respond to this troll with with honest questions, it's only trick to try and keep people engaging with it is to create straw man assertions for others to defend. That's it's entire repertoire.
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Reply #45 - Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:25pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:10pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:09pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Muslims are more homogeneous and have few doctrinal divisions than most other religions and really their religion and culture are the same thing.


Matty, you see, has read up on all the Muslim sects, from fundamentalist Wahabism to mystical Sufism. As for culture, well. He's been to all the Muslim places, from Tehran to Timbucktu.

Just don't ask him what sovereignty means, okay? He's still working on that one.

Why are most Muslim countries crap Karnal?



Why respond to this troll with with honest questions, it's only trick to try and keep people engaging with it is to create straw man assertions for others to defend. That's it's entire repertoire.



Trump is objectively successful at mass media, the guy has literally built his wealth on branding and got elected as the most powerful man on earth as a complete outsider to the political establishment.

Acosta in comparison....
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Reply #46 - Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:26pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:10pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:09pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Muslims are more homogeneous and have few doctrinal divisions than most other religions and really their religion and culture are the same thing.


Matty, you see, has read up on all the Muslim sects, from fundamentalist Wahabism to mystical Sufism. As for culture, well. He's been to all the Muslim places, from Tehran to Timbucktu.

Just don't ask him what sovereignty means, okay? He's still working on that one.

Why are most Muslim countries crap Karnal?



Why respond to this troll with with honest questions, it's only trick to try and keep people engaging with it is to create straw man assertions for others to defend. That's it's entire repertoire.

I've never read him say anything bad about Islam. It blows my mind and I figure if I keep trying he'll start being honest Term.
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Reply #47 - Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:31pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:26pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:10pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:09pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Muslims are more homogeneous and have few doctrinal divisions than most other religions and really their religion and culture are the same thing.


Matty, you see, has read up on all the Muslim sects, from fundamentalist Wahabism to mystical Sufism. As for culture, well. He's been to all the Muslim places, from Tehran to Timbucktu.

Just don't ask him what sovereignty means, okay? He's still working on that one.

Why are most Muslim countries crap Karnal?



Why respond to this troll with with honest questions, it's only trick to try and keep people engaging with it is to create straw man assertions for others to defend. That's it's entire repertoire.

I've never read him say anything bad about Islam. It blows my mind and I figure if I keep trying he'll start being honest Term.


I don't think it has a political position to be honest about.


it's here to keep people responding to it to keep people responding to it to keep people responding to it.
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Reply #48 - Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:33pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:31pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:26pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:10pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 4:09pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Muslims are more homogeneous and have few doctrinal divisions than most other religions and really their religion and culture are the same thing.


Matty, you see, has read up on all the Muslim sects, from fundamentalist Wahabism to mystical Sufism. As for culture, well. He's been to all the Muslim places, from Tehran to Timbucktu.

Just don't ask him what sovereignty means, okay? He's still working on that one.

Why are most Muslim countries crap Karnal?



Why respond to this troll with with honest questions, it's only trick to try and keep people engaging with it is to create straw man assertions for others to defend. That's it's entire repertoire.

I've never read him say anything bad about Islam. It blows my mind and I figure if I keep trying he'll start being honest Term.


I don't think it has a political position to be honest about.


it's here to keep people responding to it to keep people responding to it to keep people responding to it.

I see your point. It's like banging your head against a brick wall.
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Reply #49 - Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:00pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:14pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 12:27pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 10:44pm:
You do know the difference between culture and religion, Soren, I hope?   


Tell us the difference as you see it, Bwian, especially for believing, practicing Muslims. I think there is NO difference between culture and religion in their minds. They never tire of re-iterating the inseparability of their culture and religion.

Show how/why I am wrong, if you can.


Well, it's obvious you don't know the difference, Soren, if you're asking such a silly question.  Tell me, is there any difference between a Sephardi and Ashkenazi Jew?  How about a Southern Baptist and a High Anglican Christian?  Mmm, how about a Buddhist from Tibet and a Buddhist from Japan?   Are you getting the hint yet or do I have to continue?

Islam is a multicultural faith.  It overlays cultures from around the world.  From the Philippines to West Africa and all the cultures in between.   Rather like how Christianity overlays cultures from far Northern Russia to far South Terre de Fuego and all the cultures in between.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

And so because of these great cultural 'differences' we have Muslim terrorists from every corner of the world, all shouting allahu akhbar in Arabic, the language of the 'master race'. Their religious identity overrides any 'culture' they may have been assigned to. Islam overrides everything for Muslims.

Islam is the cause and motivation of Islamic jihad which transcends culture and murders for the Ummah and the caliphate.  There is nothing like it in any other religion, certainly not in Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism. Global war against everyone - jihad - is a unique msulim, Islamic phenomenon. And we are importing its devotees in ever greater number and they are killing us in ever greater number after we have given them the benefit of the doubt.

I have no more benefit of the doubt. The pattern is clear: the more Muslims you have the more trouble and death they will inflict on you.





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Hands up everyone with no sense of humour!

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Reply #51 - Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:12pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:14pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 12:27pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 10:44pm:
You do know the difference between culture and religion, Soren, I hope?   


Tell us the difference as you see it, Bwian, especially for believing, practicing Muslims. I think there is NO difference between culture and religion in their minds. They never tire of re-iterating the inseparability of their culture and religion.

Show how/why I am wrong, if you can.


Well, it's obvious you don't know the difference, Soren, if you're asking such a silly question.  Tell me, is there any difference between a Sephardi and Ashkenazi Jew?  How about a Southern Baptist and a High Anglican Christian?  Mmm, how about a Buddhist from Tibet and a Buddhist from Japan?   Are you getting the hint yet or do I have to continue?

Islam is a multicultural faith.  It overlays cultures from around the world.  From the Philippines to West Africa and all the cultures in between.   Rather like how Christianity overlays cultures from far Northern Russia to far South Terre de Fuego and all the cultures in between.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

And so because of these great cultural 'differences' we have Muslim terrorists from every corner of the world, all shouting allahu akhbar in Arabic, the language of the 'master race'. Their religious identity overrides any 'culture' they may have been assigned to. Islam overrides everything for Muslims.

Islam is the cause and motivation of Islamic jihad which transcends culture and murders for the Ummah and the caliphate.  There is nothing like it in any other religion, certainly not in Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism. Global war against everyone - jihad - is a unique msulim, Islamic phenomenon. And we are importing its devotees in ever greater number and they are killing us in ever greater number after we have given them the benefit of the doubt.

I have no more benefit of the doubt. The pattern is clear: the more Muslims you have the more trouble and death they will inflict on you.


No, Arabic culture overlays a great deal of Islam but it is not what is aspired to by most Muslims, Soren.  You're betraying your ignorance yet again about Muslims.  You really need help with your Islamophobia.   Now, I hear your nursemaid calling you from the little kiddies' playground.  Trot along to all your horrible little friends, OK?  The adults want to talk.   Roll Eyes


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Reply #52 - Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:16pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Muslims are more homogeneous and have few doctrinal divisions than most other religions and really their religion and culture are the same thing.


No, they are not.  Indonesian Muslims are very different Malaysian as they are different to Bangladeshi as they are different to Pakistani as they are different to Afghani, central Asian republic, Iranian, Iraqi, Turkish, Jordanian, Saudi Arabian, Egyptian, Balkan, Libyan, Tunisian, Morrocan, West African and so on, Muslims.   Time you got out and travelled the world.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #53 - Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:20pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:12pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:14pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 12:27pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 10:44pm:
You do know the difference between culture and religion, Soren, I hope?   


Tell us the difference as you see it, Bwian, especially for believing, practicing Muslims. I think there is NO difference between culture and religion in their minds. They never tire of re-iterating the inseparability of their culture and religion.

Show how/why I am wrong, if you can.


Well, it's obvious you don't know the difference, Soren, if you're asking such a silly question.  Tell me, is there any difference between a Sephardi and Ashkenazi Jew?  How about a Southern Baptist and a High Anglican Christian?  Mmm, how about a Buddhist from Tibet and a Buddhist from Japan?   Are you getting the hint yet or do I have to continue?

Islam is a multicultural faith.  It overlays cultures from around the world.  From the Philippines to West Africa and all the cultures in between.   Rather like how Christianity overlays cultures from far Northern Russia to far South Terre de Fuego and all the cultures in between.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

And so because of these great cultural 'differences' we have Muslim terrorists from every corner of the world, all shouting allahu akhbar in Arabic, the language of the 'master race'. Their religious identity overrides any 'culture' they may have been assigned to. Islam overrides everything for Muslims.

Islam is the cause and motivation of Islamic jihad which transcends culture and murders for the Ummah and the caliphate.  There is nothing like it in any other religion, certainly not in Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism. Global war against everyone - jihad - is a unique msulim, Islamic phenomenon. And we are importing its devotees in ever greater number and they are killing us in ever greater number after we have given them the benefit of the doubt.

I have no more benefit of the doubt. The pattern is clear: the more Muslims you have the more trouble and death they will inflict on you.


No, Arabic culture overlays a great deal of Islam but it is not what is aspired to by most Muslims, Soren.  You're betraying your ignorance yet again about Muslims.  You really need help with your Islamophobia.   Now, I hear your nursemaid calling you from the little kiddies' playground.  Trot along to all your horrible little friends, OK?  The adults want to talk.   Roll Eyes





You speak for "most Muslims" now.
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Reply #54 - Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:23pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:16pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Muslims are more homogeneous and have few doctrinal divisions than most other religions and really their religion and culture are the same thing.


No, they are not.  Indonesian Muslims are very different Malaysian as they are different to Bangladeshi as they are different to Pakistani as they are different to Afghani, central Asian republic, Iranian, Iraqi, Turkish, Jordanian, Saudi Arabian, Egyptian, Balkan, Libyan, Tunisian, Morrocan, West African and so on, Muslims.   Time you got out and travelled the world.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



How many different denominations of Islam is there?

Will wait for your answer.
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Reply #55 - Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:53pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:20pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:12pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:14pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 12:27pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 10:44pm:
You do know the difference between culture and religion, Soren, I hope?   


Tell us the difference as you see it, Bwian, especially for believing, practicing Muslims. I think there is NO difference between culture and religion in their minds. They never tire of re-iterating the inseparability of their culture and religion.

Show how/why I am wrong, if you can.


Well, it's obvious you don't know the difference, Soren, if you're asking such a silly question.  Tell me, is there any difference between a Sephardi and Ashkenazi Jew?  How about a Southern Baptist and a High Anglican Christian?  Mmm, how about a Buddhist from Tibet and a Buddhist from Japan?   Are you getting the hint yet or do I have to continue?

Islam is a multicultural faith.  It overlays cultures from around the world.  From the Philippines to West Africa and all the cultures in between.   Rather like how Christianity overlays cultures from far Northern Russia to far South Terre de Fuego and all the cultures in between.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

And so because of these great cultural 'differences' we have Muslim terrorists from every corner of the world, all shouting allahu akhbar in Arabic, the language of the 'master race'. Their religious identity overrides any 'culture' they may have been assigned to. Islam overrides everything for Muslims.

Islam is the cause and motivation of Islamic jihad which transcends culture and murders for the Ummah and the caliphate.  There is nothing like it in any other religion, certainly not in Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism. Global war against everyone - jihad - is a unique msulim, Islamic phenomenon. And we are importing its devotees in ever greater number and they are killing us in ever greater number after we have given them the benefit of the doubt.

I have no more benefit of the doubt. The pattern is clear: the more Muslims you have the more trouble and death they will inflict on you.


No, Arabic culture overlays a great deal of Islam but it is not what is aspired to by most Muslims, Soren.  You're betraying your ignorance yet again about Muslims.  You really need help with your Islamophobia.   Now, I hear your nursemaid calling you from the little kiddies' playground.  Trot along to all your horrible little friends, OK?  The adults want to talk.   Roll Eyes


You speak for "most Muslims" now.


And how many do you speak for?  Buggerall as far as I can tell.  As I said, run along, back to your little kiddies' playground where bullshit like yours is tolerated.  Here, in the adult world, you need to supply some form of proof for your claims - something I note you rarely ever do.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #56 - Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:54pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:16pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Muslims are more homogeneous and have few doctrinal divisions than most other religions and really their religion and culture are the same thing.


No, they are not.  Indonesian Muslims are very different Malaysian as they are different to Bangladeshi as they are different to Pakistani as they are different to Afghani, central Asian republic, Iranian, Iraqi, Turkish, Jordanian, Saudi Arabian, Egyptian, Balkan, Libyan, Tunisian, Morrocan, West African and so on, Muslims.   Time you got out and travelled the world.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How many different denominations of Islam is there?

Will wait for your answer.


1.6 billion.

There is no central authority.  There is no determinant of a subjective thing like religious belief.  Therefore, every Muslims has their own ideas of what Islam means to them, personally.
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Reply #57 - Nov 17th, 2018 at 7:04pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:16pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Muslims are more homogeneous and have few doctrinal divisions than most other religions and really their religion and culture are the same thing.


No, they are not.  Indonesian Muslims are very different Malaysian as they are different to Bangladeshi as they are different to Pakistani as they are different to Afghani, central Asian republic, Iranian, Iraqi, Turkish, Jordanian, Saudi Arabian, Egyptian, Balkan, Libyan, Tunisian, Morrocan, West African and so on, Muslims.   Time you got out and travelled the world.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How many different denominations of Islam is there?

Will wait for your answer.


1.6 billion.

There is no central authority.  There is no determinant of a subjective thing like religious belief.  Therefore, every Muslims has their own ideas of what Islam means to them, personally.

So can muslim women marry a non muslim man and continue to be part of the muslim community?
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Reply #58 - Nov 17th, 2018 at 7:35pm
 
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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:16pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Muslims are more homogeneous and have few doctrinal divisions than most other religions and really their religion and culture are the same thing.


No, they are not.  Indonesian Muslims are very different Malaysian as they are different to Bangladeshi as they are different to Pakistani as they are different to Afghani, central Asian republic, Iranian, Iraqi, Turkish, Jordanian, Saudi Arabian, Egyptian, Balkan, Libyan, Tunisian, Morrocan, West African and so on, Muslims.   Time you got out and travelled the world.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How many different denominations of Islam is there?

Will wait for your answer.


1.6 billion.

There is no central authority.  There is no determinant of a subjective thing like religious belief.  Therefore, every Muslims has their own ideas of what Islam means to them, personally.

So can muslim women marry a non muslim man and continue to be part of the muslim community?


Depends on what culture she comes from, Hammer.  Modern, Westernised, liberal Muslim, such as practised in many countries, yes, she can.   Traditional Muslim cultures, such as practised in many rural areas of their old country, no, she can't.   However, that isn't that unusual.  Many religious groups shun "out-marriers", including Orthodox Jews, Orthodox Christians and so on.  So do many traditional cultures as well, so don't bring your ire down exclusively on Muslims.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #59 - Nov 17th, 2018 at 7:51pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:16pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Muslims are more homogeneous and have few doctrinal divisions than most other religions and really their religion and culture are the same thing.


No, they are not.  Indonesian Muslims are very different Malaysian as they are different to Bangladeshi as they are different to Pakistani as they are different to Afghani, central Asian republic, Iranian, Iraqi, Turkish, Jordanian, Saudi Arabian, Egyptian, Balkan, Libyan, Tunisian, Morrocan, West African and so on, Muslims.   Time you got out and travelled the world.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How many different denominations of Islam is there?

Will wait for your answer.


1.6 billion.

There is no central authority.  There is no determinant of a subjective thing like religious belief.  Therefore, every Muslims has their own ideas of what Islam means to them, personally.



Are you delusional or just uneducated?
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Reply #60 - Nov 17th, 2018 at 7:55pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:16pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Muslims are more homogeneous and have few doctrinal divisions than most other religions and really their religion and culture are the same thing.


No, they are not.  Indonesian Muslims are very different Malaysian as they are different to Bangladeshi as they are different to Pakistani as they are different to Afghani, central Asian republic, Iranian, Iraqi, Turkish, Jordanian, Saudi Arabian, Egyptian, Balkan, Libyan, Tunisian, Morrocan, West African and so on, Muslims.   Time you got out and travelled the world.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How many different denominations of Islam is there?

Will wait for your answer.


1.6 billion.

There is no central authority.  There is no determinant of a subjective thing like religious belief.  Therefore, every Muslims has their own ideas of what Islam means to them, personally.

You mean Islamic Ummah is the original anarcho-syndycalism under a caliph?   And if they can all believe what they want - who enforces the apostasy and blasphemy laws, idiot??


You are a colossal joke, Bwian, and idiot of majestic, billowing proportions.  To be as stupid as you takes effort and, boy, have you worked hard all your life.  Carry on.







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Reply #61 - Nov 17th, 2018 at 10:26pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 7:51pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:16pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Muslims are more homogeneous and have few doctrinal divisions than most other religions and really their religion and culture are the same thing.


No, they are not.  Indonesian Muslims are very different Malaysian as they are different to Bangladeshi as they are different to Pakistani as they are different to Afghani, central Asian republic, Iranian, Iraqi, Turkish, Jordanian, Saudi Arabian, Egyptian, Balkan, Libyan, Tunisian, Morrocan, West African and so on, Muslims.   Time you got out and travelled the world.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How many different denominations of Islam is there?

Will wait for your answer.


1.6 billion.

There is no central authority.  There is no determinant of a subjective thing like religious belief.  Therefore, every Muslim has their own ideas of what Islam means to them, personally.


Are you delusional or just uneducated?


Run along, back to your little kiddies' playground where all the small children hang out.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #62 - Nov 17th, 2018 at 10:30pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 7:55pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:16pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Muslims are more homogeneous and have few doctrinal divisions than most other religions and really their religion and culture are the same thing.


No, they are not.  Indonesian Muslims are very different Malaysian as they are different to Bangladeshi as they are different to Pakistani as they are different to Afghani, central Asian republic, Iranian, Iraqi, Turkish, Jordanian, Saudi Arabian, Egyptian, Balkan, Libyan, Tunisian, Morrocan, West African and so on, Muslims.   Time you got out and travelled the world.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How many different denominations of Islam is there?

Will wait for your answer.


1.6 billion.

There is no central authority.  There is no determinant of a subjective thing like religious belief.  Therefore, every Muslims has their own ideas of what Islam means to them, personally.

You mean Islamic Ummah is the original anarcho-syndycalism under a caliph?   And if they can all believe what they want - who enforces the apostasy and blasphemy laws, idiot??


What it means is that groups can and do band together, believing certain key aspects of their common belief, Soren.   There is no Pope, no Archbishop of Canterbury.  They resemble, if anybody, the early Protestants, each with their own beliefs, coming together to form collective groups.  They force apostasy and blasphemy beliefs on each other.   There is no other authority figure or group.   

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Tells a lot of lies.

Maybe *rudewordforintercourse* in the brain?

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Reply #64 - Nov 18th, 2018 at 2:36pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 10:30pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 7:55pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:16pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Muslims are more homogeneous and have few doctrinal divisions than most other religions and really their religion and culture are the same thing.


No, they are not.  Indonesian Muslims are very different Malaysian as they are different to Bangladeshi as they are different to Pakistani as they are different to Afghani, central Asian republic, Iranian, Iraqi, Turkish, Jordanian, Saudi Arabian, Egyptian, Balkan, Libyan, Tunisian, Morrocan, West African and so on, Muslims.   Time you got out and travelled the world.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How many different denominations of Islam is there?

Will wait for your answer.


1.6 billion.

There is no central authority.  There is no determinant of a subjective thing like religious belief.  Therefore, every Muslims has their own ideas of what Islam means to them, personally.

You mean Islamic Ummah is the original anarcho-syndycalism under a caliph?   And if they can all believe what they want - who enforces the apostasy and blasphemy laws, idiot??


What it means is that groups can and do band together, believing certain key aspects of their common belief, Soren.   There is no Pope, no Archbishop of Canterbury.  They resemble, if anybody, the early Protestants, each with their own beliefs, coming together to form collective groups.  They force apostasy and blasphemy beliefs on each other.   There is no other authority figure or group.   

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Reply #65 - Nov 18th, 2018 at 3:07pm
 
I have no problems at all accepting that Islam is a devolved religion and culture.

Doesnt matter that Brian comes out batting for the cause saying it's got nuffin to do wiv Islam, when any amount of Imans with the authority of a congregation can deny his apologism implicitly quoting chapter and verse why going choppy choppy on kaffur is indeed authorised and justified in Islam.

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Oh and one more thing, if I do become a muzzie I definitely won't be sitting down to pee, and I won't play with my dong when I'm finished.

I might consider spitting three times when I have a bad feeling, but no promises mind.
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Reply #67 - Nov 18th, 2018 at 6:11pm
 
moses wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 2:25pm:
Tells a lot of lies.

Maybe *rudewordforintercourse* in the brain?



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They drink camel piss for health and vitality...not joking.
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Term Dog wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 2:36pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 10:30pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 7:55pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:16pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Muslims are more homogeneous and have few doctrinal divisions than most other religions and really their religion and culture are the same thing.


No, they are not.  Indonesian Muslims are very different Malaysian as they are different to Bangladeshi as they are different to Pakistani as they are different to Afghani, central Asian republic, Iranian, Iraqi, Turkish, Jordanian, Saudi Arabian, Egyptian, Balkan, Libyan, Tunisian, Morrocan, West African and so on, Muslims.   Time you got out and travelled the world.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How many different denominations of Islam is there?

Will wait for your answer.


1.6 billion.

There is no central authority.  There is no determinant of a subjective thing like religious belief.  Therefore, every Muslims has their own ideas of what Islam means to them, personally.

You mean Islamic Ummah is the original anarcho-syndycalism under a caliph?   And if they can all believe what they want - who enforces the apostasy and blasphemy laws, idiot??


What it means is that groups can and do band together, believing certain key aspects of their common belief, Soren.   There is no Pope, no Archbishop of Canterbury.  They resemble, if anybody, the early Protestants, each with their own beliefs, coming together to form collective groups.  They force apostasy and blasphemy beliefs on each other.   There is no other authority figure or group.   

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You are a colossal joke, Bwian, and idiot of majestic, billowing proportions.  To be as stupid as you takes effort and, boy, have you worked hard all your life.  Carry on.


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Wrong, their authority is their Bible.


Ah, so you think The Bible is divinely inspired and the direct Word of God, do you?

My, my.  How is that different to the Muslims belief in the Q'ran?

You lot like to claim Christianity is morally superior to Islam.  I've seen little evidence of that.  Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes
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Moslems get more sex.
Jews get more money.
Christians just get more Bibles in Motel rooms.
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Gandalf do you think Auggie is a Muslim?
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Jasin wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 9:55pm:
Moslems get more sex.
Jews get more money.
Christians just get more Bibles in Motel rooms.


Yes, that's what it says in the Bible, JaSin. I read it in one of Y's quotes.
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...muslim come muslim do...

...muslim here just to kill you...

...yeah kill em all kill em dead...

...you gotta kill em muhammad said...

On second thoughts I really don't want to be a muzzie.

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Right. You'd have to kill yourself, no?
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well not before I get a go at the aliens with big tits I hope.
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Tells a lot of lies.

Maybe *rudewordforintercourse* in the brain?


FITH disease sufferer.
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moses wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 2:25pm:
Tells a lot of lies.

Maybe *rudewordforintercourse* in the brain?


FITH disease sufferer.


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You do know the difference between culture and religion, Soren, I hope?   


Tell us the difference as you see it, Bwian, especially for believing, practicing Muslims. I think there is NO difference between culture and religion in their minds. They never tire of re-iterating the inseparability of their culture and religion.

Show how/why I am wrong, if you can.


Well, it's obvious you don't know the difference, Soren, if you're asking such a silly question.  Tell me, is there any difference between a Sephardi and Ashkenazi Jew?  How about a Southern Baptist and a High Anglican Christian?  Mmm, how about a Buddhist from Tibet and a Buddhist from Japan?   Are you getting the hint yet or do I have to continue?

Islam is a multicultural faith.  It overlays cultures from around the world.  From the Philippines to West Africa and all the cultures in between.   Rather like how Christianity overlays cultures from far Northern Russia to far South Terre de Fuego and all the cultures in between.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Is there a doctor of divinity around who can give a straight answer on the difference between religion and culture?
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Reply #79 - Nov 20th, 2018 at 1:36pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 20th, 2018 at 12:29pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:14pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 12:27pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16th, 2018 at 10:44pm:
You do know the difference between culture and religion, Soren, I hope?   


Tell us the difference as you see it, Bwian, especially for believing, practicing Muslims. I think there is NO difference between culture and religion in their minds. They never tire of re-iterating the inseparability of their culture and religion.

Show how/why I am wrong, if you can.


Well, it's obvious you don't know the difference, Soren, if you're asking such a silly question.  Tell me, is there any difference between a Sephardi and Ashkenazi Jew?  How about a Southern Baptist and a High Anglican Christian?  Mmm, how about a Buddhist from Tibet and a Buddhist from Japan?   Are you getting the hint yet or do I have to continue?

Islam is a multicultural faith.  It overlays cultures from around the world.  From the Philippines to West Africa and all the cultures in between.   Rather like how Christianity overlays cultures from far Northern Russia to far South Terre de Fuego and all the cultures in between.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Is there a doctor of divinity around who can give a straight answer on the difference between religion and culture?


You called?

Religion is solely based upon Writing and in Book Form.
The Modern version could be also added as 'Forums', such as these - that are 'writing' (typing) based.

Culture incorporates 'whatever' the local people are using to promote themselves either for population growth "The Culture of Love" and or financial gain "The Culture of Business".
In the USA the prime 'culture' of empowerment is Politics, but Art is the 'culture' of population growth.

In the Middle-East, Religion is the 'culture' of population growth and Military is the 'culture' of empowerment. Hence why the less speedier breeders - the Jews are more interested in being a Military power, than a Religious one.

Religion, like Politics, Sport, Art, Music, Science, Farming, etc - is just one of many facets that come under the umbrella of 'culture' pending the choice of the people and area.
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Reply #80 - Nov 22nd, 2018 at 12:32pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 6:45pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 2:36pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 10:30pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 7:55pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 6:16pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 17th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Muslims are more homogeneous and have few doctrinal divisions than most other religions and really their religion and culture are the same thing.


No, they are not.  Indonesian Muslims are very different Malaysian as they are different to Bangladeshi as they are different to Pakistani as they are different to Afghani, central Asian republic, Iranian, Iraqi, Turkish, Jordanian, Saudi Arabian, Egyptian, Balkan, Libyan, Tunisian, Morrocan, West African and so on, Muslims.   Time you got out and travelled the world.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How many different denominations of Islam is there?

Will wait for your answer.


1.6 billion.

There is no central authority.  There is no determinant of a subjective thing like religious belief.  Therefore, every Muslims has their own ideas of what Islam means to them, personally.

You mean Islamic Ummah is the original anarcho-syndycalism under a caliph?   And if they can all believe what they want - who enforces the apostasy and blasphemy laws, idiot??


What it means is that groups can and do band together, believing certain key aspects of their common belief, Soren.   There is no Pope, no Archbishop of Canterbury.  They resemble, if anybody, the early Protestants, each with their own beliefs, coming together to form collective groups.  They force apostasy and blasphemy beliefs on each other.   There is no other authority figure or group.   

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You are a colossal joke, Bwian, and idiot of majestic, billowing proportions.  To be as stupid as you takes effort and, boy, have you worked hard all your life.  Carry on.


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Wrong, their authority is their Bible.


Ah, so you think The Bible is divinely inspired and the direct Word of God, do you?

My, my.  How is that different to the Muslims belief in the Q'ran?

You lot like to claim Christianity is morally superior to Islam.  I've seen little evidence of that.  Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes


What evidence have you seen Brian?
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