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Johnnie

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Re: 548 immigrants entered Australlia today.
Reply #45 - Nov 15^th, 2018 at 7:34am

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 7:12am:

Jasin wrote on Nov 14^th, 2018 at 3:57am:

Family of Paki's just moved into town.
Straight from Pakistan. About 14 of them.
Brought over by their eldest son.
Straight away - onto the Dole.

Immigrants - and refugees - have a TWO to THREE YEAR WAIT for ANY Centrelink benefitS
The same time frame applies to Medicare rebates

This myth has been cleared up SEVERAL times, PREVIOUSLY

What do you make of this from a government website.

Exemptions to the waiting period

You may not have to wait if you're:
•an Australian citizen
•a refugee or former refugee, or
•a holder of a specific visa subclass and claim certain payments.

You also may not have to wait if you’re a family member of a refugee or humanitarian migrant:
•at the time that person arrived in Australia, and
•when you claim a payment or concession.

You may also be exempt from the waiting period because of your circumstances or your visa.

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Exemptions to the newly arrived resident’s waiting period

You may not have to serve a Newly Arrived Resident’s Waiting Period to get some payments or concessions based on your circumstances or the visa you hold.
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Re: 548 immigrants entered Australlia today.
Reply #46 - Nov 15^th, 2018 at 8:42am

Johnnie wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 7:34am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 7:12am:

Jasin wrote on Nov 14^th, 2018 at 3:57am:

Family of Paki's just moved into town.
Straight from Pakistan. About 14 of them.
Brought over by their eldest son.
Straight away - onto the Dole.

Immigrants - and refugees - have a TWO to THREE YEAR WAIT for ANY Centrelink benefitS
The same time frame applies to Medicare rebates

This myth has been cleared up SEVERAL times, PREVIOUSLY

What do you make of this from a government website.

Exemptions to the waiting period

You may not have to wait if you're:
•an Australian citizen
•a refugee or former refugee, or
•a holder of a specific visa subclass and claim certain payments.

You also may not have to wait if you’re a family member of a refugee or humanitarian migrant:
•at the time that person arrived in Australia, and
•when you claim a payment or concession.

You may also be exempt from the waiting period because of your circumstances or your visa.

In this section

Exemptions to the newly arrived resident’s waiting period

You may not have to serve a Newly Arrived Resident’s Waiting Period to get some payments or concessions based on your circumstances or the visa you hold.
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In that case, your calculation is wrong. Of the 548 immigrants that entered Australia daily, perhaps about 10% is on humantarian grounds. By far the majority is through skill based programs. Which all have waiting period. It is a myth that all of the immigrants are on some sort of welfare program straightaway.

Look, if you dont like certain immigrants of certain race or religion, then say it, but you dont need to make up stuff about it.

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Re: 548 immigrants entered Australlia today.
Reply #47 - Nov 15^th, 2018 at 9:31am

tickleandrose wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 8:42am:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 7:34am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 7:12am:

Jasin wrote on Nov 14^th, 2018 at 3:57am:

Family of Paki's just moved into town.
Straight from Pakistan. About 14 of them.
Brought over by their eldest son.
Straight away - onto the Dole.

Immigrants - and refugees - have a TWO to THREE YEAR WAIT for ANY Centrelink benefitS
The same time frame applies to Medicare rebates

This myth has been cleared up SEVERAL times, PREVIOUSLY

What do you make of this from a government website.

Exemptions to the waiting period

You may not have to wait if you're:
•an Australian citizen
•a refugee or former refugee, or
•a holder of a specific visa subclass and claim certain payments.

You also may not have to wait if you’re a family member of a refugee or humanitarian migrant:
•at the time that person arrived in Australia, and
•when you claim a payment or concession.

You may also be exempt from the waiting period because of your circumstances or your visa.

In this section

Exemptions to the newly arrived resident’s waiting period

You may not have to serve a Newly Arrived Resident’s Waiting Period to get some payments or concessions based on your circumstances or the visa you hold.


In that case, your calculation is wrong. Of the 548 immigrants that entered Australia daily, perhaps about 10% is on humantarian grounds. By far the majority is through skill based programs. Which all have waiting period. It is a myth that all of the immigrants are on some sort of welfare program straightaway.

Look, if you dont like certain immigrants of certain race or religion, then say it, but you dont need to make up stuff about it.

What was made up? it was a direct copy and paste from a government website to show Buzz was wrong.

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greggerypeccary

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Re: 548 immigrants entered Australlia today.
Reply #48 - Nov 15^th, 2018 at 9:42am

Johnnie wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 9:31am:

tickleandrose wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 8:42am:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 7:34am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 7:12am:

Jasin wrote on Nov 14^th, 2018 at 3:57am:

Family of Paki's just moved into town.
Straight from Pakistan. About 14 of them.
Brought over by their eldest son.
Straight away - onto the Dole.

Immigrants - and refugees - have a TWO to THREE YEAR WAIT for ANY Centrelink benefitS
The same time frame applies to Medicare rebates

This myth has been cleared up SEVERAL times, PREVIOUSLY

What do you make of this from a government website.

Exemptions to the waiting period

You may not have to wait if you're:
•an Australian citizen
•a refugee or former refugee, or
•a holder of a specific visa subclass and claim certain payments.

You also may not have to wait if you’re a family member of a refugee or humanitarian migrant:
•at the time that person arrived in Australia, and
•when you claim a payment or concession.

You may also be exempt from the waiting period because of your circumstances or your visa.

In this section

Exemptions to the newly arrived resident’s waiting period

You may not have to serve a Newly Arrived Resident’s Waiting Period to get some payments or concessions based on your circumstances or the visa you hold.


In that case, your calculation is wrong. Of the 548 immigrants that entered Australia daily, perhaps about 10% is on humantarian grounds. By far the majority is through skill based programs. Which all have waiting period. It is a myth that all of the immigrants are on some sort of welfare program straightaway.

Look, if you dont like certain immigrants of certain race or religion, then say it, but you dont need to make up stuff about it.

What was made up? it was a direct copy and paste from a government website to show Buzz was wrong.

You missed a crucial word.

"You may not have to wait if ..."

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Re: 548 immigrants entered Australlia today.
Reply #49 - Nov 15^th, 2018 at 9:55am

Johnnie wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 7:34am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 7:12am:

Jasin wrote on Nov 14^th, 2018 at 3:57am:

Family of Paki's just moved into town.
Straight from Pakistan. About 14 of them.
Brought over by their eldest son.
Straight away - onto the Dole.

Immigrants - and refugees - have a TWO to THREE YEAR WAIT for ANY Centrelink benefitS
The same time frame applies to Medicare rebates

This myth has been cleared up SEVERAL times, PREVIOUSLY

What do you make of this from a government website.

Exemptions to the waiting period

You may not have to wait if you're:
•an Australian citizen
•a refugee or former refugee, or
•a holder of a specific visa subclass and claim certain payments.

You also may not have to wait if you’re a family member of a refugee or humanitarian migrant:
•at the time that person arrived in Australia, and
•when you claim a payment or concession.

You may also be exempt from the waiting period because of your circumstances or your visa.

In this section

Exemptions to the newly arrived resident’s waiting period

You may not have to serve a Newly Arrived Resident’s Waiting Period to get some payments or concessions based on your circumstances or the visa you hold.


What is your problem with that?

Spot

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Re: 548 immigrants entered Australlia today.
Reply #50 - Nov 15^th, 2018 at 9:58am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 9:55am:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 7:34am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 7:12am:

Jasin wrote on Nov 14^th, 2018 at 3:57am:

Family of Paki's just moved into town.
Straight from Pakistan. About 14 of them.
Brought over by their eldest son.
Straight away - onto the Dole.

Immigrants - and refugees - have a TWO to THREE YEAR WAIT for ANY Centrelink benefitS
The same time frame applies to Medicare rebates

This myth has been cleared up SEVERAL times, PREVIOUSLY

What do you make of this from a government website.

Exemptions to the waiting period

You may not have to wait if you're:
•an Australian citizen
•a refugee or former refugee, or
•a holder of a specific visa subclass and claim certain payments.

You also may not have to wait if you’re a family member of a refugee or humanitarian migrant:
•at the time that person arrived in Australia, and
•when you claim a payment or concession.

You may also be exempt from the waiting period because of your circumstances or your visa.

In this section

Exemptions to the newly arrived resident’s waiting period

You may not have to serve a Newly Arrived Resident’s Waiting Period to get some payments or concessions based on your circumstances or the visa you hold.


What is your problem with that?

Spot

Exactly.

If people are in need, why deny them help?

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Re: 548 immigrants entered Australlia today.
Reply #51 - Nov 15^th, 2018 at 11:07am

Johnnie wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 9:31am:

tickleandrose wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 8:42am:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 7:34am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 7:12am:

Jasin wrote on Nov 14^th, 2018 at 3:57am:

Family of Paki's just moved into town.
Straight from Pakistan. About 14 of them.
Brought over by their eldest son.
Straight away - onto the Dole.

Immigrants - and refugees - have a TWO to THREE YEAR WAIT for ANY Centrelink benefitS
The same time frame applies to Medicare rebates

This myth has been cleared up SEVERAL times, PREVIOUSLY

What do you make of this from a government website.

Exemptions to the waiting period

You may not have to wait if you're:
•an Australian citizen
•a refugee or former refugee, or
•a holder of a specific visa subclass and claim certain payments.

You also may not have to wait if you’re a family member of a refugee or humanitarian migrant:
•at the time that person arrived in Australia, and
•when you claim a payment or concession.

You may also be exempt from the waiting period because of your circumstances or your visa.

In this section

Exemptions to the newly arrived resident’s waiting period

You may not have to serve a Newly Arrived Resident’s Waiting Period to get some payments or concessions based on your circumstances or the visa you hold.


In that case, your calculation is wrong. Of the 548 immigrants that entered Australia daily, perhaps about 10% is on humantarian grounds. By far the majority is through skill based programs. Which all have waiting period. It is a myth that all of the immigrants are on some sort of welfare program straightaway.

Look, if you dont like certain immigrants of certain race or religion, then say it, but you dont need to make up stuff about it.

What was made up? it was a direct copy and paste from a government website to show Buzz was wrong.

Look at the context. Jasin was saying 'all 14 of them onto the doll". Which is directly in reply to your opening post, talking about taking out the calculator implying that most of those immigrants goes straight to the dole. Buzz said its not true, which he is right, because by far most immigrants to Australia currently is via skills or family program, which all have waiting periods.

Then, you tried to quote from government website (which happen to confirms that Buzz is saying). Which relates to exceptions to the waiting period rules, which includes people and their relatives on humatarian grounds. Which in effect, implies that you still think most of the 500 or so immigrants are potential welfare grabbers, which is not true at all.

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Re: 548 immigrants entered Australlia today.
Reply #52 - Nov 15^th, 2018 at 11:32am

tickleandrose wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 11:07am:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 9:31am:

tickleandrose wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 8:42am:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 7:34am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 15^th, 2018 at 7:12am:

Jasin wrote on Nov 14^th, 2018 at 3:57am:

Family of Paki's just moved into town.
Straight from Pakistan. About 14 of them.
Brought over by their eldest son.
Straight away - onto the Dole.

Immigrants - and refugees - have a TWO to THREE YEAR WAIT for ANY Centrelink benefitS
The same time frame applies to Medicare rebates

This myth has been cleared up SEVERAL times, PREVIOUSLY

What do you make of this from a government website.

Exemptions to the waiting period

You may not have to wait if you're:
•an Australian citizen
•a refugee or former refugee, or
•a holder of a specific visa subclass and claim certain payments.

You also may not have to wait if you’re a family member of a refugee or humanitarian migrant:
•at the time that person arrived in Australia, and
•when you claim a payment or concession.

You may also be exempt from the waiting period because of your circumstances or your visa.

In this section

Exemptions to the newly arrived resident’s waiting period

You may not have to serve a Newly Arrived Resident’s Waiting Period to get some payments or concessions based on your circumstances or the visa you hold.


In that case, your calculation is wrong. Of the 548 immigrants that entered Australia daily, perhaps about 10% is on humantarian grounds. By far the majority is through skill based programs. Which all have waiting period. It is a myth that all of the immigrants are on some sort of welfare program straightaway.

Look, if you dont like certain immigrants of certain race or religion, then say it, but you dont need to make up stuff about it.

What was made up? it was a direct copy and paste from a government website to show Buzz was wrong.

Look at the context. Jasin was saying 'all 14 of them onto the doll". Which is directly in reply to your opening post, talking about taking out the calculator implying that most of those immigrants goes straight to the dole. Buzz said its not true, which he is right, because by far most immigrants to Australia currently is via skills or family program, which all have waiting periods.

Then, you tried to quote from government website (which happen to confirms that Buzz is saying). Which relates to exceptions to the waiting period rules, which includes people and their relatives on humatarian grounds. Which in effect, implies that you still think most of the 500 or so immigrants are potential welfare grabbers, which is not true at all.

Nope, it was a direct response to Buzz and his furfie.
I don't know what tangent or otherwise you are on.
In the meantime have fun.

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