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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Macron denounces nationalism at memorial service. Reply #60 - Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:10pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:04pm: Is that something we can prove Orwell said or is it like Panther where its all BS I couldn't be bothered looking it up to see if it's crap or not. Probably out of context though.
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Panther Gold Member Offline My Heart beats True for the Red White & Blue... Posts: 11106 Gender:	Re: Macron denounces nationalism at memorial service. Reply #61 - Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:10pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:04pm: Is that something we can prove Orwell said or is it like Panther where its all BS FACT: In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131492 Gender:	Re: Macron denounces nationalism at memorial service. Reply #62 - Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:12pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:04pm: Is that something we can prove Orwell said or is it like Panther where its all BS It makes no difference who said it.
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Reply #63 - Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:14pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:10pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:04pm:

Is that something we can prove Orwell said or is it like Panther where its all BS

I couldn't be bothered looking it up to see if it's crap or not. Probably out of context though.

I'm pretty sure it's from Orwell's "Notes on Nationalism".

However, it doesn't matter who said it, it's what's being said that's important.

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Reply #64 - Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:14pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:10pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:04pm:

Is that something we can prove Orwell said or is it like Panther where its all BS

I couldn't be bothered looking it up to see if it's crap or not. Probably out of context though.

I'm pretty sure it's from Orwell's "Notes on Nationalism".

However, it doesn't matter who said it, it's what's being said that's important.

Didn't Orwell write a book about the dangers of world communism Pecca (Animal Farm). I doubt Orwell was a globalist Pecca.

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Reply #65 - Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:18pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:14pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:10pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:04pm:

Is that something we can prove Orwell said or is it like Panther where its all BS

I couldn't be bothered looking it up to see if it's crap or not. Probably out of context though.

I'm pretty sure it's from Orwell's "Notes on Nationalism".

However, it doesn't matter who said it, it's what's being said that's important.

Didn't Orwell write a book about the dangers of world communism Pecca (Animal Farm). I doubt Orwell was a globalist Pecca.

We can always rely on you to change the subject when things aren't going your way Wink

"By ‘patriotism’ I mean devotion to a particular place and a particular way of life, which one believes to be the best in the world but has no wish to force on other people. Patriotism is of its nature defensive, both militarily and culturally.

"Nationalism, on the other hand, is inseparable from the desire for power. The abiding purpose of every nationalist is to secure more power and more prestige, not for himself but for the nation or other unit in which he has chosen to sink his own individuality."

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Reply #66 - Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:14pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:10pm:

[quote author=Pastafarian link=1541973268/58#58 date=1541999089]Is that something we can prove Orwell said or is it like Panther where its all BS

I couldn't be bothered looking it up to see if it's crap or not. Probably out of context though.

I'm pretty sure it's from Orwell's "Notes on Nationalism".

However, it doesn't matter who said it, it's what's being said that's important.

Didn't Orwell write a book about the dangers of world communism Pecca (Animal Farm). I doubt Orwell was a globalist Pecca.

We can always rely on you to change the subject when things aren't going your way Wink

[i]"By ‘patriotism’ I mean devotion to a particular place and a particular way of life, which one believes to be the best in the world but has no wish to force on other people. Patriotism is of its nature defensive, both militarily and culturally.

"Nationalism, on the other hand, is inseparable from the desire for power.The abiding purpose of every nationalist is to secure more power and more prestige, not for himself but for the nation or other unit in which he has chosen to sink his own individuality."

Not all nationalists think like that. I'm a nationalist and I don't want to take over other countries. Africa for example- I just don't care about it . Loads of non nationalists want to take over other countries Pecca. That idea is spread right through political ideaology.

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Reply #67 - Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:31pm

Nationalism refers to the right of a nation to exist and make its own laws, control it's borders, destiny etc.

Has nothing to do with hate.

Why do leftists always virtue signal and try make yourselves look good by calling others falsely.

Is it because your leftist ideology has failed every single time it has been tried.

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Reply #68 - Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:37pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 2:20pm:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 2:16pm:

Honestly I want to hear the position of those that have a problem with the right of nations to exist and write their own laws and control who comes in when and how many.

If are are really that different in our views in the West i am concerned.

Who are those people?

Duuh the people that hold the position mentioned.

While your at it, what is your position greggy cos all I have ever seen from you is childish trolling rubbish.

You don't seem to have the courage to make a single defensible assertion.

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Reply #69 - Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:50pm

Term Dog wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:31pm:

Nationalism refers to the right of a nation to exist and make its own laws, control it's borders, destiny etc.

Has nothing to do with hate.

Why do leftists always virtue signal and try make yourselves look good by calling others falsely.

Is it because your leftist ideology has failed every single time it has been tried.

Incorrect.

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Reply #70 - Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:51pm

Term Dog wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 2:20pm:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 2:16pm:

Honestly I want to hear the position of those that have a problem with the right of nations to exist and write their own laws and control who comes in when and how many.

If are are really that different in our views in the West i am concerned.

Who are those people?

Duuh the people that hold the position mentioned.

Example?

Can you come up with some names, perhaps?

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Reply #71 - Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:51pm:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 2:20pm:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 2:16pm:

Honestly I want to hear the position of those that have a problem with the right of nations to exist and write their own laws and control who comes in when and how many.

If are are really that different in our views in the West i am concerned.

Who are those people?

Duuh the people that hold the position mentioned.

Example?

Can you come up with some names, perhaps?

Your a time waster.

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Reply #72 - Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:59pm

Term Dog wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:51pm:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 2:20pm:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 2:16pm:

Honestly I want to hear the position of those that have a problem with the right of nations to exist and write their own laws and control who comes in when and how many.

If are are really that different in our views in the West i am concerned.

Who are those people?

Duuh the people that hold the position mentioned.

Example?

Can you come up with some names, perhaps?

Your a time waster.

You either have examples, or you don't.

And, you either know how to spell you're, or you don't.

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Reply #73 - Nov 12^th, 2018 at 4:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:59pm:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:51pm:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 2:20pm:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 2:16pm:

Honestly I want to hear the position of those that have a problem with the right of nations to exist and write their own laws and control who comes in when and how many.

If are are really that different in our views in the West i am concerned.

Who are those people?

Duuh the people that hold the position mentioned.

Example?

Can you come up with some names, perhaps?

Your a time waster.

You either have examples, or you don't.

And, you either know how to spell you're, or you don't.

82k+ posts, strong life.

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Re: Macron denounces nationalism at memorial service.
Reply #74 - Nov 12^th, 2018 at 4:04pm

Term Dog wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:59pm:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:51pm:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 3:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 2:20pm:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 12^th, 2018 at 2:16pm:

Honestly I want to hear the position of those that have a problem with the right of nations to exist and write their own laws and control who comes in when and how many.

If are are really that different in our views in the West i am concerned.

Who are those people?

Duuh the people that hold the position mentioned.

Example?

Can you come up with some names, perhaps?

Your a time waster.

You either have examples, or you don't.

And, you either know how to spell you're, or you don't.

82k+ posts, strong life.

Your white flag has been accepted.

(note the use of "your" in that sentence)

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