Term Dog wrote on Nov 10
th, 2018 at 9:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 10
th, 2018 at 9:21pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 10
th, 2018 at 8:49pm:
and how much should the state protect them?
If it's individual rights don't hurt anybody then I don't have any issue with them.
Individual right to;
Euthanasia
Heroin
Not wear a helmet
Drive over speed limit
Self mutilation or consenting to being mutilated eg FGM.
Child hormone blockers
Carrying a gun
Not obey the law
Not pay tax
etc
I think you need to look at all of those on an individual basis.... some of those are not rights at all... rights are constrained by responsibility.... not just what any person wants....
This argument puts the kybosh on many recent 'personal choice' issues..... rights are not involved - rights are defined by inclusions and exclusions.... those are regulated in keeping, theoretically, with the wishes of the majority in a democratic society, and are not subject to personal whim....
You cannot speed or break the law (etc) as some right to personal choice.... personal choice can never over-ride the right of the majority to live in peace etc....
For example - a Muslim has no Right to attack innocent bystanders in Bourke Street, Melbourne... his religious/ideological belief does not permit him the right to abrogate the rights of others.... he is entitled to his personal choice ONLY in the confines of his own space..... and nobody else's.
Same thing applies when I drive down the highway - do whatever you want, assholes - just not in my space.... don't tail-gate, don't cut in, don't drive like a dick, don't make unheralded lane changes, don't box me in with a slower moving truck because you want to go a little faster and can't judge that you are cutting someone off.... there are wide open spaces out there, Pilgrims... no need to be perpetual bugger-ups at 110kph and + ....
Same applies in society.... do what you want outside my space.... but don't involve me.