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The Bourke Street Terrorist
Nov 10th, 2018 at 12:11pm
 
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-10/security-strengthened-after-terror-in-bou...


Bourke Street attacker identified as Hassan Khalif Shire Ali as police carry out raids in Melbourne.


The Islamic State-inspired terrorist who carried out yesterday's fatal stabbing in Bourke Street had his passport cancelled due to fears he planned to travel to Syria in 2015, the Australian Federal Police says.
Key points:

    Three people were stabbed in the attack; one died on the scene and two are in hospital
    Properties in Werribee and Meadow Heights have been raided by police
    Authorities said there would be an increased police presence around the Melbourne CBD

Despite being known to hold radical views, Hassan Khalif Shire Ali was not actively monitored and was assessed as not posing a threat to the community.

The revelation came as Victoria Police raided properties in Werribee and Meadow Heights in Melbourne's west and north following yesterday's attack in the CBD, in which Shire Ali was shot dead after taking the life of another man.

The Somali-born Shire Ali, aged 30, crashed his car loaded with gas bottles in the Melbourne CBD and stabbed three people before he was shot by police and died in hospital.
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The ABC understands he is also known as Hassan Ali and Hassan Khalif, and recently moved from his family's Werribee home because of problems with substance abuse.

His family is well-known and respected within the Somali community in the region, and attended the Virgin Mary Mosque in Hoppers Crossing.

It is believed Shire Ali most commonly attended prayer in Melbourne's northern suburbs.

Shire Ali has previously been investigated for his association with others linked to terrorism.

Chief Commissioner Graham Ashton said he believed the suspect moved to Australia from Somalia in 1990s, and that his family members had been known to police on terrorism-related matters.

Islamic State (IS) claimed responsibility for the attack and police confirmed this morning that Shire Ali was "inspired" and "radicalised" by IS.

"This individual did hold radical views and his passport was cancelled in 2015, when ASIO assessed he planned to travel to Syria," AFP Assistant Commissioner Ian McCartney said.

"He was never a target of the JCTT [Joint Counter-Terrorism Taskforce] in terms of the investigations we undertake.

"The assessment was made that whilst he had radicalised views, he didn't pose a threat to the national security environment.

"Obviously, the circumstances of how and when he moved from having these radicalised view to carrying out this attack yesterday will be a key focus of the investigation we undertake through the JCTT."

Mr Ashton last night confirmed Shire Ali died in hospital.

One man — Sisto Malaspina, the 74-year-old owner of the iconic Melbourne restaurant Pellegrini's Espresso Bar — died at the scene after being stabbed.

A 26-year-old man and a 58-year-old man are both in a stable condition in Royal Melbourne Hospital following surgery for lacerations.

Toxicology results for Shire Ali are expected in the next few days.
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So they cancelled his passport but let him roam free to commit
acts of terrorism here.
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Authorities said there would be an increased police presence around the Melbourne CBD and at major events in the coming days so the public could feel comfortable going about their business, but they did not believe there was an ongoing threat.



Mr Ashton said the Myer department store's Christmas windows opened last night and other key events were being held this weekend, and he said there was "no ongoing threat at the moment".

"We have a number of events going on in Melbourne, Stakes day at Flemington, soccer at AAMI Stadium and also Remembrance Day so we are doing security reassessments in light of those events.

"At this stage we are encouraging people to go to those events and there will be additional police over the weekend."
A line of uniformed police in central Melbourne.
Photo: Authorities said police will be out in force in Melbourne this weekend. (ABC News: Danielle Bonica)

Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews strongly condemned yesterday's attack and thanked police as well as bystanders who courageously stepped in to try to help.

"This is an evil and terrifying thing that has happened in our city and state today and we condemn it," the Premier said.

"Victorians can be assured that every member of Victoria Police … are equal to the task and will do everything they can in any circumstance to keep Victorians safe."

Victoria's Opposition Leader Matthew Guy also denounced the attack.

"I'll never accept that violent extremism should be a way of life for a big city like Melbourne," he said.

    "All the resources of our state should be directed towards keeping Victorians safe. Victorians would say we do not have to live like this."

Prime Minister Scott Morrison attacked the "radical and dangerous ideology of extremist Islam" that inspired Shire Ali.

"I am the first to protect religious freedom in this country, but that also means I must be the first to call out religious extremism," he said.

"Religious extremism takes many forms around the world and no religion is immune from it. That is the lesson of history and sadly modern history as well.

"But here in Australia, we would be kidding ourselves if we did not call out the fact that the greatest threat of religious extremism in this country is the radical and dangerous ideology of extremist Islam."

Mr Morrison said Australia's terror threat level would remain at "probable".

The Prime Minister is due to take further briefings from security and other relevant agencies in Canberra later today.
'Don't let fear dictate'

Road blocks in the area are expected to remain in place until at least mid-morning and members of the public are asked to avoid the area on Bourke Street between Russell and Swanston Streets.

Police have asked the public to submit any images or video footage of the attack to help them with their investigation.

Authorities said it was normal for people to have strong emotional or physical reactions after such a distressing or frightening event, and people should seek help from their doctor or by calling a helpline if they needed support.

Melbourne's Lord Mayor Sally Capp sought to reassure the public and praised the police for their swift response.

    "Melburnians should feel reassured of the swift reaction from our police and emergency services who were so quickly, effectively and bravely at the scene dealing with the situation and minimising harm to the public," she said.

"I hope that we can pull together as a community to really support each other."

Trauma specialist Rob Gordon urged the Melbourne community to learn from the incident and be aware of dangers, but to also not let fear dictate.

"We need to understand and become familiar with risks and hazards," Dr Gordon said.

"Unfortunately the present time has got hazards of this sort where people take in to their minds to attack innocent people.

"It's very important to recognise that we live with all sorts of hazards but we do it successfully by being aware and understanding and careful.

    "Fear doesn't help you get more prepared — it makes you jump at shadows and then you tend to get overwhelmed or exhausted and then you shut off."
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Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 12:15pm:
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Authorities said there would be an increased police presence around the Melbourne CBD and at major events in the coming days so the public could feel comfortable going about their business, but they did not believe there was an ongoing threat.



Mr Ashton said the Myer department store's Christmas windows opened last night and other key events were being held this weekend, and he said there was "no ongoing threat at the moment".

"We have a number of events going on in Melbourne, Stakes day at Flemington, soccer at AAMI Stadium and also Remembrance Day so we are doing security reassessments in light of those events.

"At this stage we are encouraging people to go to those events and there will be additional police over the weekend."
A line of uniformed police in central Melbourne.
Photo: Authorities said police will be out in force in Melbourne this weekend. (ABC News: Danielle Bonica)

Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews strongly condemned yesterday's attack and thanked police as well as bystanders who courageously stepped in to try to help.

"This is an evil and terrifying thing that has happened in our city and state today and we condemn it," the Premier said.

"Victorians can be assured that every member of Victoria Police … are equal to the task and will do everything they can in any circumstance to keep Victorians safe."

Victoria's Opposition Leader Matthew Guy also denounced the attack.

"I'll never accept that violent extremism should be a way of life for a big city like Melbourne," he said.

    "All the resources of our state should be directed towards keeping Victorians safe. Victorians would say we do not have to live like this."

Prime Minister Scott Morrison attacked the "radical and dangerous ideology of extremist Islam" that inspired Shire Ali.

"I am the first to protect religious freedom in this country, but that also means I must be the first to call out religious extremism," he said.

"Religious extremism takes many forms around the world and no religion is immune from it. That is the lesson of history and sadly modern history as well.

"But here in Australia, we would be kidding ourselves if we did not call out the fact that the greatest threat of religious extremism in this country is the radical and dangerous ideology of extremist Islam."

Mr Morrison said Australia's terror threat level would remain at "probable".

The Prime Minister is due to take further briefings from security and other relevant agencies in Canberra later today.
'Don't let fear dictate'

Road blocks in the area are expected to remain in place until at least mid-morning and members of the public are asked to avoid the area on Bourke Street between Russell and Swanston Streets.

Police have asked the public to submit any images or video footage of the attack to help them with their investigation.

Authorities said it was normal for people to have strong emotional or physical reactions after such a distressing or frightening event, and people should seek help from their doctor or by calling a helpline if they needed support.

Melbourne's Lord Mayor Sally Capp sought to reassure the public and praised the police for their swift response.

    "Melburnians should feel reassured of the swift reaction from our police and emergency services who were so quickly, effectively and bravely at the scene dealing with the situation and minimising harm to the public," she said.

"I hope that we can pull together as a community to really support each other."

Trauma specialist Rob Gordon urged the Melbourne community to learn from the incident and be aware of dangers, but to also not let fear dictate.

"We need to understand and become familiar with risks and hazards," Dr Gordon said.

"Unfortunately the present time has got hazards of this sort where people take in to their minds to attack innocent people.

"It's very important to recognise that we live with all sorts of hazards but we do it successfully by being aware and understanding and careful.

    "Fear doesn't help you get more prepared — it makes you jump at shadows and then you tend to get overwhelmed or exhausted and then you shut off."



There is a book called "The gift of fear" written by author Gavin de Becker
There is nothing wrong with fear, it's a survival thing. It can save your life!
It is needed at times of 'flight or fight' situations.

The last thing we need, is good folk of Melbourne for instance as in this recent situation, are like sitting ducks, with no protection from the Government allowing known shady weirdos into the community to run amok.

So it's the Government's bad choices that gives me great "fears" at this point in time. Angry


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Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 12:12pm:
So they cancelled his passport but let him roam free to commit
acts of terrorism here.


yes it seems the authorities were more concerned about the welfare of other countries than they were here. What does that say about their war on terror and national security ? Sad
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Sophia wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:09pm:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1541815913/2#2 date=1541816159]


A book called "The gift of fear" author Gavin de Becker
There is nothing wrong with fear, it's a survival thing.
It is needed at times of 'flight or fight' situations.
T
he last thing we need, is good folk of Melbourne for instance as in this recent situation, are like sitting ducks, with no protection from the Government allowing known shady weirdos into the community to run amok.

So it's the Government's bad choices that gives me great "fears" at this point in time. Angry




There were no terrorists in Iraq when Saddam was running the show -

he used fear back on them.

We need to do the same here.
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So

It's a monkey

Put it and it's family down for the good of the human race.
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Valkie wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:14pm:
So

It's a monkey

Put it and it's family down for the good of the human race.



Saddam would know what to do - if he was here.
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Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 12:12pm:
So they cancelled his passport but let him roam free to commit
acts of terrorism here.


yes it seems the authorities were more concerned about the welfare of other countries than they were here. What does that say about their war on terror and national security ? Sad



One slipped through the net but

how many others have also slipped through?
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Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:13pm:
Sophia wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:09pm:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1541815913/2#2 date=1541816159]


A book called "The gift of fear" author Gavin de Becker
There is nothing wrong with fear, it's a survival thing.
It is needed at times of 'flight or fight' situations.
T
he last thing we need, is good folk of Melbourne for instance as in this recent situation, are like sitting ducks, with no protection from the Government allowing known shady weirdos into the community to run amok.

So it's the Government's bad choices that gives me great "fears" at this point in time. Angry




There were no terrorists in Iraq when Saddam was running the show -

he used fear back on them.

We need to do the same here.


The government are sending stupid messages about fear.
We need to be told about 'fight or flight' situations.
In first aid, the main thing we are taught, although we wish to help others, but we must check we are safe ourselves before doing so. It's a safety issue. And that it's okay to back away from danger.

This is where the Government is not doing the right thing by normal citizens, by not saying that fear is okay, used at the time of need. We do not need our senses dulled because they say so.



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Sophia wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:22pm:
The government are sending stupid messages about fear.
We need to be told about 'fight or flight' situations.
In first aid, the main thing we are taught, although we wish to help others, but we must check we are safe ourselves before doing so. It's a safety issue. And that it's okay to back away from danger.

This is where the Government is not doing the right thing by normal citizens, by not saying that fear is okay, used at the time of need. We do not need our senses dulled because they say so.





We will continue to live in fear as we

are defenseless against terrorists.
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Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
Sophia wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:22pm:
The government are sending stupid messages about fear.
We need to be told about 'fight or flight' situations.
In first aid, the main thing we are taught, although we wish to help others, but we must check we are safe ourselves before doing so. It's a safety issue. And that it's okay to back away from danger.

This is where the Government is not doing the right thing by normal citizens, by not saying that fear is okay, used at the time of need. We do not need our senses dulled because they say so.





We will continue to live in fear as we

are defenseless against terrorists.


Perhaps more living with uncertainty than fear.
Fear happens when something happens, uncertainty is never knowing when that will happen.
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Reply #12 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:46pm
 
Sophia wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:43pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
Sophia wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:22pm:
The government are sending stupid messages about fear.
We need to be told about 'fight or flight' situations.
In first aid, the main thing we are taught, although we wish to help others, but we must check we are safe ourselves before doing so. It's a safety issue. And that it's okay to back away from danger.

This is where the Government is not doing the right thing by normal citizens, by not saying that fear is okay, used at the time of need. We do not need our senses dulled because they say so.





We will continue to live in fear as we

are defenseless against terrorists.


Perhaps more living with uncertainty than fear.
Fear happens when something happens, uncertainty is never knowing when that will happen.



How many more are out there right now planning attacks?
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Tally wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 8:37am:

Muslims aren't controlled by some hive mind that directs them all to be terrorists.





YES, THEY ARE.

AND YES, IT DOES.



Tally,

Clearly, you either
1/ know absolutely nothing about the moslem religious psyche,
OR,
2/ you are simply a filthy lying deceitful moslem, yourself,
who is seeking to deflect guilt and responsibility for their violent nature, away from followers of ISLAM.

I'm plumbing for #2 myself.



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Moselm mass circumambulation of the Kabaa in Mecca


'circumambulate' means to walk around




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Tally wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 8:37am:

Muslims aren't controlled by some hive mind that directs them all to be terrorists.





YES, THEY ARE.

AND YES, IT DOES.





What ISLAM [the 'hive mind'] commands....

The psychic obligation laid upon the psyche, OF EVERY MOSLEM....




1/ Love your 'brothers' in faith.

2/ Hate and kill, those who reject Allah's authority [ISLAMIC law], over their lives.




"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22


"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23


"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51


"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111


"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29


"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4



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Reply #14 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 3:51pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
Sophia wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:22pm:
The government are sending stupid messages about fear.
We need to be told about 'fight or flight' situations.
In first aid, the main thing we are taught, although we wish to help others, but we must check we are safe ourselves before doing so. It's a safety issue. And that it's okay to back away from danger.

This is where the Government is not doing the right thing by normal citizens, by not saying that fear is okay, used at the time of need. We do not need our senses dulled because they say so.





We will continue to live in fear as we

are defenseless against terrorists.



..... by government diktat..... we are forced to rely more and more on government preventing such things - we are daily told that vigilantism is illegal and that the consequences of a society in acting outside of Law are more severe than a few people being killed... the Nanny State has been upon us for decades now....

Need I remind you all of how governments various leapt upon the 'issue' of 'domestic violence' to install 'laws' that would enable the government to assault and criminalise and disempower men as a group rather than attacking the real criminals?  Now men are afraid to stand up for anything...... not like they used to..... at Eureka Stockade and so forth...

They are happy for a few innocents to be killed as long as they hold all the power..... history will look back upon the late 20th and early 21st Centuries as a time when the West lost its sanity and bowed down to every idiotic ideology, and was effectively subordinated to governments of tyranny and despotism and pure self-interest, under which the individual became truly a vassal of the state and subject to its every whim ... and history will wonder how the ordinary people allowed it to happen.
(hint - they had no choice - they were dragooned).


Wait until they start altering English language in universities.. a new form of book burning...... oh..... wait....

Wait until the time-honoured position of women (allegedly) as 'baby factories' without real rights (never was the case here) is replaced by men as baby factories without real rights........ oh ........ wait.....

Wait until honesty, integrity and fair play are removed from any legal process and anyone with a badge can get anyone for anything...... oh.... wait.....

Wait until open and honest negotiation in industrial relations and wages are replaced by despotism of a non-elected body and workers are dictated to without recourse ....... oh ...... wait.....
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Reply #15 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 3:51pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:15pm:
Valkie wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:14pm:
So

It's a monkey

Put it and it's family down for the good of the human race.



Saddam would know what to do - if he was here.





Bobby,

Sadly, Saddam isn't available.

But, you have me.

I know what to do.           Smiley           Wink





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QUARANTINE WORKS!!
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/34#34

and....
The argument for administrative detention, for all 'Aussie' followers of ISLAM
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/0#0



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Reply #16 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 5:41pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 3:51pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
Sophia wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:22pm:
The government are sending stupid messages about fear.
We need to be told about 'fight or flight' situations.
In first aid, the main thing we are taught, although we wish to help others, but we must check we are safe ourselves before doing so. It's a safety issue. And that it's okay to back away from danger.

This is where the Government is not doing the right thing by normal citizens, by not saying that fear is okay, used at the time of need. We do not need our senses dulled because they say so.





We will continue to live in fear as we

are defenseless against terrorists.



..... by government diktat..... we are forced to rely more and more on government preventing such things - we are daily told that vigilantism is illegal and that the consequences of a society in acting outside of Law are more severe than a few people being killed... the Nanny State has been upon us for decades now....

Need I remind you all of how governments various leapt upon the 'issue' of 'domestic violence' to install 'laws' that would enable the government to assault and criminalise and disempower men as a group rather than attacking the real criminals?  Now men are afraid to stand up for anything...... not like they used to..... at Eureka Stockade and so forth...

They are happy for a few innocents to be killed as long as they hold all the power..... history will look back upon the late 20th and early 21st Centuries as a time when the West lost its sanity and bowed down to every idiotic ideology, and was effectively subordinated to governments of tyranny and despotism and pure self-interest, under which the individual became truly a vassal of the state and subject to its every whim ... and history will wonder how the ordinary people allowed it to happen.
(hint - they had no choice - they were dragooned).


Wait until they start altering English language in universities.. a new form of book burning...... oh..... wait....

Wait until the time-honoured position of women (allegedly) as 'baby factories' without real rights (never was the case here) is replaced by men as baby factories without real rights........ oh ........ wait.....

Wait until honesty, integrity and fair play are removed from any legal process and anyone with a badge can get anyone for anything...... oh.... wait.....

Wait until open and honest negotiation in industrial relations and wages are replaced by despotism of a non-elected body and workers are dictated to without recourse ....... oh ...... wait.....



Well written.  Highest marks.
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Reply #17 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 5:47pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 12:12pm:
So they cancelled his passport but let him roam free to commit
acts of terrorism here.

So much for the Federal government "Keeping people safe". Once they decided to cancel the passport, that's when it became their problem. No doubt they will blame the states as usual.
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Bam wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 5:47pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 12:12pm:
So they cancelled his passport but let him roam free to commit
acts of terrorism here.

So much for the Federal government "Keeping people safe". Once they decided to cancel the passport, that's when it became their problem. No doubt they will blame the states as usual.



How many others have cancelled passports?
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Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 5:56pm:
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Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 5:58pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 5:56pm:
One Nation just received thousands more votes




Pauline?

Only Saddam would know what to do.


Not true

I hear the Chinese have this wonderful program

Muzzos go in, humans sometimes come out

There is a high loss of nonconvertible, but such is life
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Reply #22 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 6:11pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 5:58pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 5:56pm:
One Nation just received thousands more votes




Pauline?

Only Saddam would know what to do.


Let's wait and see if someone says that canceling his passport because he wanted to be a nasty bastard is what turned him into a nasty bastard......   Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
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Reply #23 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 6:19pm
 
Valkie wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 6:06pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 5:58pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 5:56pm:
One Nation just received thousands more votes




Pauline?

Only Saddam would know what to do.


Not true

I hear the Chinese have this wonderful program

Muzzos go in, humans sometimes come out

There is a high loss of nonconvertible, but such is life




But Saddam would round them up and bury them in the desert -

by the 1000s if necessary.
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Reply #24 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 6:39pm
 
The terrorists are already winning with some people....Terrorist are hoping irrational fear and blind hatred will bring about the Caliphate the radical Islamist's have been advocating....The terrorists want Muslim communities around the world to be shunned, marginalised and sent back to the cause in some cases....Why would anyone want to create more martyrs???

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Worldwide caliphate. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. A worldwide caliphate is the concept of a single one-world government, supported in particular by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, a leader of the Islamic fundamentalist militant group the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.


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Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
We will continue to live in fear ...





"live in fear" ?


I don't even "live in fear" of dying from the meningococcal virus or shark attacks
(which, incidentally, take FAR more lives than what we term as "terrorist attacks")
Of course - our greatest "fear" should be the national road toll

A staggering 1,225 in 2017




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Reply #26 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 7:02pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 6:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
We will continue to live in fear ...





"live in fear" ?


I don't even "live in fear" of dying from the meningococcal virus or shark attacks
(which, incidentally, take FAR more lives than what we term as "terrorist attacks")
Of course - our greatest "fear" should be the national road toll

A staggering 1,225 in 2017




But there is something different about terrorists
plotting to deliberately kill innocent people.
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Reply #27 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 7:03pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 7:02pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 6:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
We will continue to live in fear ...





"live in fear" ?


I don't even "live in fear" of dying from the meningococcal virus or shark attacks
(which, incidentally, take FAR more lives than what we term as "terrorist attacks")
Of course - our greatest "fear" should be the national road toll

A staggering 1,225 in 2017




But there is something different about terrorists
plotting to deliberately kill innocent people.


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Reply #28 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 7:09pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 7:03pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 7:02pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 6:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
We will continue to live in fear ...





"live in fear" ?


I don't even "live in fear" of dying from the meningococcal virus or shark attacks
(which, incidentally, take FAR more lives than what we term as "terrorist attacks")
Of course - our greatest "fear" should be the national road toll

A staggering 1,225 in 2017




But there is something different about terrorists
plotting to deliberately kill innocent people.


https://tribkswb.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/ian-david-long.jpg



Greggy,
don't divert the conversation to the terrorist -
ex-Marine Ian David Long.
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Dear Mods.

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Gordon wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 7:21pm:
Dear Mods.

Can you please do your job and move all the posts about the American mass shooter to the American section



Yes - this thread is about The Bourke Street Terrorist.

Greggy - the resident troll - is trying to derail it.
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Yadda wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 3:51pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:15pm:
Valkie wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:14pm:
So

It's a monkey

Put it and it's family down for the good of the human race.



Saddam would know what to do - if he was here.





Bobby,

Sadly, Saddam isn't available.

But, you have me.

I know what to do.           Smiley           Wink





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and....
The argument for administrative detention, for all 'Aussie' followers of ISLAM
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/0#0




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Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 7:26pm:
Gordon wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 7:21pm:
Dear Mods.

Can you please do your job and move all the posts about the American mass shooter to the American section



Yes - this thread is about The Bourke Street Terrorist.

Greggy - the resident troll - is trying to derail it.


Its how apologists and lying trolls work.

Cant argue because they are stuffed, the facts prove the nature of islam.

So they derail the discussion.

When this faild they scream racist, bigot, islamaphobe or what ever they can to hail down the discussion.

Just ignore it.

it should not be here anyway
It should have left years ago but it is a lying troll
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Reply #33 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 10:54pm
 
Valkie wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 10:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 7:26pm:
Gordon wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 7:21pm:
Dear Mods.

Can you please do your job and move all the posts about the American mass shooter to the American section



Yes - this thread is about The Bourke Street Terrorist.

Greggy - the resident troll - is trying to derail it.


Its how apologists and lying trolls work.

Cant argue because they are stuffed, the facts prove the nature of islam.

So they derail the discussion.

When this faild they scream racist, bigot, islamaphobe or what ever they can to hail down the discussion.

Just ignore it.

it should not be here anyway
It should have left years ago but it is a lying troll



Good post Valkie,
I think we can all see right through Greggy's trolling.
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Greg is all right in his chosen field - when he steps outside that he gets lost in the wild realms of imagination.

Sadly - this is a sign  of a serious personality disorder, and in this instance, he somehow mistakenly equates the well-being of workers in industrial situations with every other 'leftist' issue concerning women, ethnics, immigration, and especially Islam.

Even more sadly - this reduces the concerns of the genuine worker and Union to nothing more than just another tile in a background of endless whining, and thus reduces the impact of the very real demands for rectification of often dire situations for those labouring under the false gods of profit and of our current industrial 'relations' approach.

This is the plight of those who believe that every and any opposition to their chosen opponent is somehow on the same side... nothing could be further from the truth.... Islamists do NOT accord to workers and Unions any rights whatsoever.... 'feminists' and their fellow travelers do NOT accord to everyone equal rights and opportunity....our current crop of immigrants and refugees quite simply do not have any concept of any of the above.... and feel that being offered $5 for a $20 job is great compared to where they came from....

How an intelligent being like Greg can support such stupidity to the detriment of those he claims to represent.... is beyond me... and makes me feel he is a Rightist plant with the intent of alienating support for the 'left' ....  and this isclearly proven by the destruction of the rights of ordinary people that he advocates and pursues relentlessly.

Hang your head in shame, Peccary - you are a traitor to your own.. and I say that as a friend and not an enemy..........
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Reply #35 - Nov 11th, 2018 at 6:25am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 6:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 5:58pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 5:56pm:
One Nation just received thousands more votes




Pauline?

Only Saddam would know what to do.


Let's wait and see if someone says that canceling his passport because he wanted to be a nasty bastard is what turned him into a nasty bastard......   Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes


In one Grap...in one... the excuse makers started straight up.
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Reply #36 - Nov 11th, 2018 at 6:30am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 6:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
We will continue to live in fear ...





"live in fear" ?


I don't even "live in fear" of dying from the meningococcal virus or shark attacks
(which, incidentally, take FAR more lives than what we term as "terrorist attacks")
Of course - our greatest "fear" should be the national road toll

A staggering 1,225 in 2017






Are terrorists part of nature?

And don't trot the road toll out as an excuse FFS.
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Reply #37 - Nov 11th, 2018 at 7:26am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 6:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
We will continue to live in fear ...





"live in fear" ?


I don't even "live in fear" of dying from the meningococcal virus or shark attacks
(which, incidentally, take FAR more lives than what we term as "terrorist attacks")
Of course - our greatest "fear" should be the national road toll

A staggering 1,225 in 2017







very true....but at the end of the day  everywhere has natural disaster its unavoidable.....lets face it  you will only get attacked by a shark  if you swim in the ocean....there are plenty of lakes and rivers to swim in....and everyone knows that    thats the risk they choose to take....

road deaths is another thing we risk everytime we get in our cars.........get on a plane a bus.... it is OUR CHOICE to take that risk....


sadly I do not think the gentleman killed on Thursday on the footpath taking a daily walk... would have ever thought he was taking a risk with his life....

this is what I mean buzz...


Terrorist Hassan Khalif Shire Ali planned to kill many more people in Friday’s Bourke St attack.

Police believe the way the 30-year-old had packed gas cylinders into his Holden ute before setting a fire showed he aimed to cause mass casualties.

But his failure to build a more sophisticated bomb is believed to have spared many lives.

Police hope items, including computers and phones, seized during raids on Saturday will provide an insight into what motivated his actions.

The results of a toxicology report to see if Shire Ali had drugs and alcohol in his system is expected within days.
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Police believe the way the 30-year-old had packed gas cylinders into his Holden ute before setting a fire showed he aimed to cause mass casualties.


I'm glad he was killed.

Also - it was Friday -
I wonder if he did this after Friday Islamic prayers at the local Mosque?
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Police believe the way the 30-year-old had packed gas cylinders into his Holden ute before setting a fire showed he aimed to cause mass casualties.


I'm glad he was killed.

Also - it was Friday -
I wonder if he did this after Friday Islamic prayers at the local Mosque?



its already been said bobby   he didnt attend the Mosque.... your glad hes dead  so now we will never know what went on in his head will we.
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cods wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 7:37am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 7:31am:
Quote:
Police believe the way the 30-year-old had packed gas cylinders into his Holden ute before setting a fire showed he aimed to cause mass casualties.


I'm glad he was killed.

Also - it was Friday -
I wonder if he did this after Friday Islamic prayers at the local Mosque?



its already been said bobby   he didnt attend the Mosque.... your glad hes dead  so now we will never know what went on in his head will we.



dear Cods,
We know what was in his head -

he planned to kill many innocent people.
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Why were the ambos seen dining at the local bakery en route to the hospital with a shot Muslim on board.
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Hassan was a psychopath plain and simple he shunned Islam and sounds like he was a very isolated individual even from family, substance abuse, hardly any friends estranged from family and loved ones fits the profile.

Maybe he did buy into 70 virgins or whatever it is in heaven but that's a story 10 year olds would start to dispute.

Throwing all muslims into his basket is not right because it simply isn't true, the majority just go about their daily lives like all of us.

What I would like to see is the Imam's of the muslim world speak out against such criminal actions like that of Hassan at every prayer meeting.

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The Mosque of Rome, situated in Parioli, is the largest mosque outside the Islamic world.
It has an area of 30,000 m² and can accommodate more than 12,000 people.
The building is located in the Acqua Acetosa area, at the foot of the Monti Parioli, north of the city.


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Ajax wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 9:25am:
Hassan was a psychopath plain and simple he shunned Islam and sounds like he was a very isolated individual even from family, substance abuse, hardly any friends estranged from family and loved ones fits the profile.

Maybe he did buy into 70 virgins or whatever it is in heaven but that's a story 10 year olds would start to dispute.

Throwing all muslims into his basket is not right because it simply isn't true, the majority just go about their daily lives like all of us.

What I would like to see is the Imam's of the muslim world speak out against such criminal actions like that of Hassan at every prayer meeting.


Hassan was desperate to get Aussie love and attention.
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Reply #45 - Nov 11th, 2018 at 9:42am
 
capitosinora wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 9:28am:
The Mosque of Rome, situated in Parioli, is the largest mosque outside the Islamic world.
It has an area of 30,000 m² and can accommodate more than 12,000 people.
The building is located in the Acqua Acetosa area, at the foot of the Monti Parioli, north of the city.


https://www.romeing.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/The-Mosque-of-Rome.jpg


Muslims' protest pray in Rome over mosque shortage



Lovely building - are Infidels allowed to tour?
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capitosinora wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 9:30am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 9:25am:
Hassan was a psychopath plain and simple he shunned Islam and sounds like he was a very isolated individual even from family, substance abuse, hardly any friends estranged from family and loved ones fits the profile.

Maybe he did buy into 70 virgins or whatever it is in heaven but that's a story 10 year olds would start to dispute.

Throwing all muslims into his basket is not right because it simply isn't true, the majority just go about their daily lives like all of us.

What I would like to see is the Imam's of the muslim world speak out against such criminal actions like that of Hassan at every prayer meeting.


Hassan was desperate to get Aussie love and attention.


While I have to agree - what is the answer?  Just let some of them act out their fantasies?  Where are the families and the communities in all this?  do the community leaders ever speak out and say, for example:-

"If you see Mohamed thinking the wrong way,
Just stop and say,
You're going the wrong way."



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Reply #47 - Nov 11th, 2018 at 9:54am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 9:46am:
capitosinora wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 9:30am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 9:25am:
Hassan was a psychopath plain and simple he shunned Islam and sounds like he was a very isolated individual even from family, substance abuse, hardly any friends estranged from family and loved ones fits the profile.

Maybe he did buy into 70 virgins or whatever it is in heaven but that's a story 10 year olds would start to dispute.

Throwing all muslims into his basket is not right because it simply isn't true, the majority just go about their daily lives like all of us.

What I would like to see is the Imam's of the muslim world speak out against such criminal actions like that of Hassan at every prayer meeting.


Hassan was desperate to get Aussie love and attention.


While I have to agree - what is the answer?  Just let some of them act out their fantasies?  Where are the families and the communities in all this?  do the community leaders ever speak out and say, for example:-

"If you see Mohamed thinking the wrong way,
Just stop and say,
You're going the wrong way."





Imo a good starting place would be the Imams at prayer time in the mosques.

They should strongly condemn Hassans actions and warn the people not to buy into the psyche of a terrorist group such as IS who probably don't give a damn about allah but its such a great way of catching stray fish.

Has to start with the leaders and then family. 
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Darkies in Africa hate whities, so why are African darkies coming to Australia that is 90% whitie?
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Darkies in Africa hate whities, so why are African darkies coming to Australia that is 90% whitie? 



They want a better standard of living &
to continue their religious beliefs which include
killing non-believers such as us.
We give them social security money to help them towards their goals.
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They want a better standard of living &



The only thing the darkie in Bourke Street got was a better bullet, in his guts. A lot of people don't believe in the death penalty, but yet, they say nothing about this guy being put to death and the innocent guy who was put to death by stabbing. The govt and supporters of darkies and muslims are complicit by their willingness to allow the deaths. They could have easily prevented those deaths by deporting the guy and his brother months or years ago

So when someone says they don't believe in the death penalty, call them a liar
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Bobby. wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 10:15am:
They want a better standard of living &



The only thing the darkie in Bourke Street got was a better bullet, in his guts. A lot of people don't believe in the death penalty, but yet, they say nothing about this guy being put to death and the innocent guy who was put to death by stabbing. The govt and supporters of darkies and muslims are complicit by their willingness to allow the deaths. They could have easily prevented those deaths by deporting the guy and his brother months or years ago

So when someone says they don't believe in the death penalty, call them a liar   


Bit of a stretch there - the guy wasn't 'put to death' - he was blown away in a righteous kill.. pure self-defence... watch the video.  The innocent bystander, on the other hand, wasn't doing one thing to that lunatic... and was murdered, not 'put to death'.

We need a Devil's Island Re-education Centre for any of these 'radicalised' individuals.... fail the course and it's the Midnight Express for you back to your chosen Holy Land - most of which are pretty full of holes these days... in several ways......

I understand Nauru is coming up for lease.............. nothing like a few Kokonut Boories to keep you under control if you feel restive... and they know a thing or two about head-hunting.....
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Darkies in Africa hate whities, so why are African darkies coming to Australia that is 90% whitie? 


I'm white, almost pink actually, and I lived in Africa for 5 years and was treated with respect and dignity.
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Tally wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 11:30am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 10:07am:
Darkies in Africa hate whities, so why are African darkies coming to Australia that is 90% whitie? 


I'm white, almost pink actually, and I lived in Africa for 5 years and was treated with respect and dignity.



was that Somalia by any chance???....

are you suggesting we dont treat Africans with respect?.....we have quite a few living in ACT  and I have yet to hear of them or us having any problems....

Mel in particular does seem to have more than their share of Problems from the African continent....

and yes I do think they have a right to complain...it does seem out of proportion
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Tally wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 11:30am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 10:07am:
Darkies in Africa hate whities, so why are African darkies coming to Australia that is 90% whitie? 


I'm white, almost pink actually, and I lived in Africa for 5 years and was treated with respect and dignity.



5 Years? So you didn't own a farm then?


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Morrison and Dutton are talking tough, the resolve after the last terrorist attack was more bollards and to arm police with machine guns, well that worked a treat!
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cods wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 7:26am:
buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 6:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
We will continue to live in fear ...





"live in fear" ?


I don't even "live in fear" of dying from the meningococcal virus or shark attacks
(which, incidentally, take FAR more lives than what we term as "terrorist attacks")
Of course - our greatest "fear" should be the national road toll

A staggering 1,225 in 2017







very true....but at the end of the day  everywhere has natural disaster its unavoidable.....lets face it  you will only get attacked by a shark  if you swim in the ocean....there are plenty of lakes and rivers to swim in....and everyone knows that    thats the risk they choose to take....

road deaths is another thing we risk everytime we get in our cars.........get on a plane a bus.... it is OUR CHOICE to take that risk....


sadly I do not think the gentleman killed on Thursday on the footpath taking a daily walk... would have ever thought he was taking a risk with his life....




Nor would anyone getting killed by a lightning strike
BOTH are the most miniscule of chances
But BOTH are an occasional, but rare,  reality


Have a look at the BILLIONS of funding being flushed away in "anti-terrorism" measures - something that take, maybe, one life a year

Then look at the huge cuts women's and domestic violence support have suffered under this government have suffered

One woman PER WEEK last year was MURDERED - by her husband, partner, or ex

But there's not enough of the "fear factor" in these murders to be newsworthy
And as these women entered these relationships voluntarily - I guess they were asking for it


If I had control of a budget that pours BILLIONS into saving one life per year ...
Or a budget that goes into saving over [b]fifty lives per year


I know which way I'D go[/b]





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Tally wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 11:30am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 10:07am:
Darkies in Africa hate whities, so why are African darkies coming to Australia that is 90% whitie? 


I'm white, almost pink actually, and I lived in Africa for 5 years and was treated with respect and dignity.

lol pink- did you eat jerk chicken in Africa-?  Grin
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buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 8:31pm:
cods wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 7:26am:
buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 6:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
We will continue to live in fear ...





"live in fear" ?


I don't even "live in fear" of dying from the meningococcal virus or shark attacks
(which, incidentally, take FAR more lives than what we term as "terrorist attacks")
Of course - our greatest "fear" should be the national road toll

A staggering 1,225 in 2017







very true....but at the end of the day  everywhere has natural disaster its unavoidable.....lets face it  you will only get attacked by a shark  if you swim in the ocean....there are plenty of lakes and rivers to swim in....and everyone knows that    thats the risk they choose to take....

road deaths is another thing we risk everytime we get in our cars.........get on a plane a bus.... it is OUR CHOICE to take that risk....


sadly I do not think the gentleman killed on Thursday on the footpath taking a daily walk... would have ever thought he was taking a risk with his life....




Nor would anyone getting killed by a lightning strike
BOTH are the most miniscule of chances
But BOTH are an occasional, but rare,  reality


Have a look at the BILLIONS of funding being flushed away in "anti-terrorism" measures - something that take, maybe, one life a year

Then look at the huge cuts women's and domestic violence support have suffered under this government have suffered

One woman PER WEEK last year was MURDERED - by her husband, partner, or ex

But there's not enough of the "fear factor" in these murders to be newsworthy
And as these women entered these relationships voluntarily - I guess they were asking for it


If I had control of a budget that pours BILLIONS into saving one life per year ...
Or a budget that goes into saving over [b]fifty lives per year


I know which way I'D go[/b]









well I think there is more chance of being killed by a terrorist nutter in OZ than being hit by lightening just quietly!...you see the instigators of attacks on our shores have all been stopped and jailed before they did the deed.....and then we wait for the next batch to come along and start all over again.....like drug dealers as they remove one another takes their place.........so dont believe for one moment we have seen the last of this..

I am glad you are good at making decisions like that buzz.. I would be no good at all....I would go for the family if for one moment I thought throwing money at it would fix it..

sadly it wont... its far too complex for it to be that simple........

not many women enter a relationship with a bad man   they are usually swept off their feet by his charm.,it isnt until they have given up everything and moved in with them  they turn ugly..... but thats another story...

I havent heard of women suffering because of fund cuts... its mostly a State run business.....

Bills the one with money to burn  he wants to spend $160 mil on a plebiscite on the Republic.....thats on everyones mind... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes I am sure he is thinking of giving the job to Malc... maybe offer him the first post as Pres...who knows..
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Have a look at the BILLIONS of funding being flushed away in "anti-terrorism" measures - something that take, maybe, one life a year



One life a year is one life too many you creep

Like so many other idiot Stalinist progressives, your politics is based on body count

Check out this body count committed by darkies in Africa ... you ought to join them, it'd suit you down to the ground

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Reply #61 - Nov 11th, 2018 at 10:30pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 8:31pm:
cods wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 7:26am:
buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 6:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
We will continue to live in fear ...





"live in fear" ?


I don't even "live in fear" of dying from the meningococcal virus or shark attacks
(which, incidentally, take FAR more lives than what we term as "terrorist attacks")
Of course - our greatest "fear" should be the national road toll

A staggering 1,225 in 2017







very true....but at the end of the day  everywhere has natural disaster its unavoidable.....lets face it  you will only get attacked by a shark  if you swim in the ocean....there are plenty of lakes and rivers to swim in....and everyone knows that    thats the risk they choose to take....

road deaths is another thing we risk everytime we get in our cars.........get on a plane a bus.... it is OUR CHOICE to take that risk....


sadly I do not think the gentleman killed on Thursday on the footpath taking a daily walk... would have ever thought he was taking a risk with his life....




Nor would anyone getting killed by a lightning strike
BOTH are the most miniscule of chances
But BOTH are an occasional, but rare,  reality


Have a look at the BILLIONS of funding being flushed away in "anti-terrorism" measures - something that take, maybe, one life a year

Then look at the huge cuts women's and domestic violence support have suffered under this government have suffered

One woman PER WEEK last year was MURDERED - by her husband, partner, or ex

But there's not enough of the "fear factor" in these murders to be newsworthy
And as these women entered these relationships voluntarily - I guess they were asking for it


If I had control of a budget that pours BILLIONS into saving one life per year ...
Or a budget that goes into saving over [b]fifty lives per year


I know which way I'D go[/b]








And how would you stop DV?
It has been around for centuries...and my guess is it will be around for centuries to come no matter what you do.



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Reply #62 - Nov 12th, 2018 at 12:30am
 
cods wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 10:02pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 8:31pm:
cods wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 7:26am:
buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 6:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
We will continue to live in fear ...





"live in fear" ?


I don't even "live in fear" of dying from the meningococcal virus or shark attacks
(which, incidentally, take FAR more lives than what we term as "terrorist attacks")
Of course - our greatest "fear" should be the national road toll

A staggering 1,225 in 2017







very true....but at the end of the day  everywhere has natural disaster its unavoidable.....lets face it  you will only get attacked by a shark  if you swim in the ocean....there are plenty of lakes and rivers to swim in....and everyone knows that    thats the risk they choose to take....

road deaths is another thing we risk everytime we get in our cars.........get on a plane a bus.... it is OUR CHOICE to take that risk....


sadly I do not think the gentleman killed on Thursday on the footpath taking a daily walk... would have ever thought he was taking a risk with his life....




Nor would anyone getting killed by a lightning strike
BOTH are the most miniscule of chances
But BOTH are an occasional, but rare,  reality


Have a look at the BILLIONS of funding being flushed away in "anti-terrorism" measures - something that take, maybe, one life a year

Then look at the huge cuts women's and domestic violence support have suffered under this government have suffered

One woman PER WEEK last year was MURDERED - by her husband, partner, or ex

But there's not enough of the "fear factor" in these murders to be newsworthy
And as these women entered these relationships voluntarily - I guess they were asking for it


If I had control of a budget that pours BILLIONS into saving one life per year ...
Or a budget that goes into saving over fifty lives per year


I know which way I'D go










I haven't heard of women suffering because of fund cuts... its mostly a State run business.....






Australian of the Year Rosie Batty has criticised Tony Abbott for promising to take real action to tackle family violence while at the same time slashing funding to family violence services.

The cuts she refers to are to family violence services as well as homelessness and crisis accommodation services across the country.

Altogether, the cuts are worth $300 million. Several services across the country will be forced to close after having their federal funding slashed or even removed in its entirety.

The cuts also mean that specialised staff across the country that are trained in assisting victims of domestic violence will be displaced. These services assist women and children fleeing violence in a variety of ways; from providing crisis accommodation in a safe and secure environment to providing legal assistance with domestic violence apprehension orders.
Many of these cuts will come into effect on February 28, with another round of cuts effective as of July 1. While a large amount of cuts were announced in the middle of last year, a whole new batch of unexpected cuts were announced just a few days before Christmas.

In his final act as Social Services Minister before relinquishing the portfolio to Scott Morrison, Kevin Andres announced deep cuts to crisis housing services Australia-wide. He even slashed funding to national peak bodies such as Homelessness Australia, who play a key role in advising the government on how best to provide victims of domestic violence and homelessness the services they need.
On top of this, new Social Services Minister Scott Morrison may discontinue a national partnership between the state and federal governments on homelessness services. If this partnership is defunded, another round of severe cuts to the sector will ensue.

The family violence and homelessness sector is already unable to accommodate the tragically high demand in Australia, and these cuts will see even more women and children denied support.

As Women’s Agenda reported last month, this year is likely to see demand increase sharply due to the publicity surrounding the Victorian Royal Commission into family violence, meaning services will need to be better prepared and better funded than ever. 
With even more cuts expected this year, Batty has called on the prime minister to match his public stance on family violence with real action by stopping and reversing his federal cuts to the services that protect its victims.

https://womensagenda.com.au/latest/rosie-batty-calls-on-tony-abbott-to-reverse-c...



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Tally wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 11:30am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 10:07am:
Darkies in Africa hate whities, so why are African darkies coming to Australia that is 90% whitie? 


I'm white, almost pink actually, and I lived in Africa for 5 years and was treated with respect and dignity.


You must be a special Bwana ey?

Jambo Bwana ...I take your bags to your chumba.

I'd suggest you head back and take another look.

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buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 12th, 2018 at 12:30am:
cods wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 10:02pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 8:31pm:
cods wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 7:26am:
buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 6:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
We will continue to live in fear ...





"live in fear" ?


I don't even "live in fear" of dying from the meningococcal virus or shark attacks
(which, incidentally, take FAR more lives than what we term as "terrorist attacks")
Of course - our greatest "fear" should be the national road toll

A staggering 1,225 in 2017







very true....but at the end of the day  everywhere has natural disaster its unavoidable.....lets face it  you will only get attacked by a shark  if you swim in the ocean....there are plenty of lakes and rivers to swim in....and everyone knows that    thats the risk they choose to take....

road deaths is another thing we risk everytime we get in our cars.........get on a plane a bus.... it is OUR CHOICE to take that risk....


sadly I do not think the gentleman killed on Thursday on the footpath taking a daily walk... would have ever thought he was taking a risk with his life....




Nor would anyone getting killed by a lightning strike
BOTH are the most miniscule of chances
But BOTH are an occasional, but rare,  reality


Have a look at the BILLIONS of funding being flushed away in "anti-terrorism" measures - something that take, maybe, one life a year

Then look at the huge cuts women's and domestic violence support have suffered under this government have suffered

One woman PER WEEK last year was MURDERED - by her husband, partner, or ex

But there's not enough of the "fear factor" in these murders to be newsworthy
And as these women entered these relationships voluntarily - I guess they were asking for it


If I had control of a budget that pours BILLIONS into saving one life per year ...
Or a budget that goes into saving over fifty lives per year


I know which way I'D go










I haven't heard of women suffering because of fund cuts... its mostly a State run business.....






Australian of the Year Rosie Batty has criticised Tony Abbott for promising to take real action to tackle family violence while at the same time slashing funding to family violence services.

The cuts she refers to are to family violence services as well as homelessness and crisis accommodation services across the country.

Altogether, the cuts are worth $300 million. Several services across the country will be forced to close after having their federal funding slashed or even removed in its entirety.

The cuts also mean that specialised staff across the country that are trained in assisting victims of domestic violence will be displaced. These services assist women and children fleeing violence in a variety of ways; from providing crisis accommodation in a safe and secure environment to providing legal assistance with domestic violence apprehension orders.
Many of these cuts will come into effect on February 28, with another round of cuts effective as of July 1. While a large amount of cuts were announced in the middle of last year, a whole new batch of unexpected cuts were announced just a few days before Christmas.

In his final act as Social Services Minister before relinquishing the portfolio to Scott Morrison, Kevin Andres announced deep cuts to crisis housing services Australia-wide. He even slashed funding to national peak bodies such as Homelessness Australia, who play a key role in advising the government on how best to provide victims of domestic violence and homelessness the services they need.
On top of this, new Social Services Minister Scott Morrison may discontinue a national partnership between the state and federal governments on homelessness services. If this partnership is defunded, another round of severe cuts to the sector will ensue.

The family violence and homelessness sector is already unable to accommodate the tragically high demand in Australia, and these cuts will see even more women and children denied support.

As Women’s Agenda reported last month, this year is likely to see demand increase sharply due to the publicity surrounding the Victorian Royal Commission into family violence, meaning services will need to be better prepared and better funded than ever. 
With even more cuts expected this year, Batty has called on the prime minister to match his public stance on family violence with real action by stopping and reversing his federal cuts to the services that protect its victims.

https://womensagenda.com.au/latest/rosie-batty-calls-on-tony-abbott-to-reverse-c...





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I guess that proves it. all somali muslims must be terrorists

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I guess that proves it. all somali muslims must be terrorists

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Can you prove that they aren't, brainless cat?


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Perhaps Spot would like to enjoy the better side of black Africans. But hurry up Spot before our Fed Govt decides that altruism in Africa is far ahead of altruism in Australia and gets the site pulled down out of jealousy

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