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Nov 9th, 2018 at 8:14pm
 
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Radical Muslim should be allowed to leave the country he hates: court


A Supreme Court judge has challenged an "assumption" that Islamic radicalism equates to extremist violence in freeing from anti-terrorism supervision orders a Muslim "bigot", who hates Australia.

Justice Des Fagan further urged authorities to assist violent career criminal Mohamed Naaman to realise his dream of leaving the country to live in Lebanon as "it would appear to suit all parties".

The NSW government brought an application to have Naaman, 43, monitored over fears he would commit a terrorist act if left unrestrained.

In pushing for the supervision order, Crown prosecutor John Agius, SC, told the court last month that Naaman had expressed a desire to travel to the Middle East and to fight against the Syrian government.

The court heard that Naaman, who was born in Syria, had been in and out of prison in NSW and Queensland for most of his adult life.

He served his most recent stint in jail for trying to slash a prison officer, then violated his parole in late 2016 by travelling overseas to Lebanon, where it's understood he now has a wife and child.
He returned to Australia via Brisbane in May this year and was re-incarcerated the following month after being interviewed by counter-terrorism officers in Sydney.
Supreme Court Justice Stephen Campbell granted an interim supervision order against him on August 2, the final day of Naaman’s full sentence over the attack.

Last month, Justice Fagan heard that, soon after the attacks of September 11, 2001, Naaman displayed a poster of Osama bin Laden on his cell wall and, while imprisoned in Queensland about 12 years later, requested a CD of the Koran as read by extremist preacher Anwar al-Awlaki, who was killed by US forces in Yemen in 2011.

It was claimed Naaman was preoccupied with Islamic State and once told a Queensland parole officer that he "would go to Syria and become a suicide bomber, then stated he was joking".
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In refusing to set down the order, Justice Fagan compared Naaman with contemporaries who carried out terrorist acts in Australia, such as the group that plotted to murder NSW Police accountant Curtis Cheng and Numan Haider, who was shot dead after knifing police in suburban Melbourne.


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"He has espoused his adherence to Islam over many years. He has shown himself to be an Islamic bigot, expressing contempt and hatred for anyone who does not accept the Koran, being the overwhelming majority of Australians," Justice Fagan said.

"He has not voiced the Islamic religious rationale, which these cases reveal, for attacking the Australian population and governments in order to impose sharia law," he said.


During the hearing, the court heard Naaman wanted to renounce his Australian citizenship and return to Lebanon, prompting Justice Fagan to ask why he shouldn’t be allowed to do so.
"If somebody wishes to immigrate from Australia … why wouldn’t the state wish to facilitate it if it’s possible?" he said.


But, in his judgment handed down this week, Justice Fagan said there was "nothing to be served by keeping him against his will in a country he detests".
"I strongly urge that both the State and the defendant’s legal advisers should thoroughly explore any available means by which the defendant might realise his wish.


https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/radical-muslim-should-be-allowed-to-leave-th...




It would be better for us and cheaper in the long run to give him a one way ticket back to the shithole of his choice
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Reply #1 - Nov 9th, 2018 at 8:17pm
 
Nah, a shot in the back of the head.
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Reply #2 - Nov 9th, 2018 at 8:18pm
 
Send him back but hang him first.
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Reply #3 - Nov 9th, 2018 at 8:45pm
 
Well we let a lot of those who went off to Syria back in so forcing them to stay here is certainly common sense to some apparently.

Wonderful to see both sides of government always have our best interests at heart   Roll Eyes
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Reply #4 - Nov 9th, 2018 at 8:51pm
 
Black Orchid wrote on Nov 9th, 2018 at 8:45pm:
Well we let a lot of those who went off to Syria back in so forcing them to stay here is certainly common sense to some apparently.

Wonderful to see both sides of government always have our best interests at heart   Roll Eyes



Don't vote for the major parties -

they both allow known terrorists to roam our streets and
they invite more to come here.
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Re: Keeping terrorists who want to leave here
Reply #5 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 2:18am
 
Bobby wrote on Nov 9th, 2018 at 8:51pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Nov 9th, 2018 at 8:45pm:
Well we let a lot of those who went off to Syria back in so forcing them to stay here is certainly common sense to some apparently.

Wonderful to see both sides of government always have our best interests at heart   Roll Eyes



Don't vote for the major parties -

they both allow known terrorists to roam our streets and
they invite more to come here.



Vote for her. She fixes everything.

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Reply #6 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 6:39am
 
I have just said on another thread..


we are mad taking their passports off them


let them leave  in fact make it a condition of them keeping their passports  they must use them within 48 hours.....

and then bolt to the door..

this person in Melb   who succeeded in killing one person.... was a death waiting to happen   he was WELL KNOWN to Vic police and the AFP...... .. can we guess his whole family is... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

yet we lock them in here.......WHY????

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Reply #7 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 7:43am
 
I prefer the Roman

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With a pig for company, but to be compassionate and not bring any untoward pain on any sentient creature, kill the pig first, but leave the muzzo alive.
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Reply #8 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 9:20am
 
We need more judges like Justice Des Fagan
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Reply #9 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 9:35am
 
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Somali-born terrorist who stabbed three people, killing one, during Bourke Street 'act of evil' had his passport cancelled



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6371375/What-know-Somali-born-terrorist...




The authorities cancelled his passport which shows they wanted to keep him here.


If any non muslim had a desire to leave Australia would they be allowed to leave or have their passports cancelled?
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Reply #10 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 9:52am
 
What about when other countries try to send known Australian terrorists back here would you accept that....Would the Australian Government allow them to return....Would other countries accept someone who wants to migrate there knowing they are a threat....Cancelling their Australian passport does not guarantee they will be accepted by another country....We should deal with our own terrorists and not allow them to go anywhere they can kill innocent people just as other nations should IMO???

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Reply #11 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 11:12am
 
Bobby wrote on Nov 9th, 2018 at 8:51pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Nov 9th, 2018 at 8:45pm:
Well we let a lot of those who went off to Syria back in so forcing them to stay here is certainly common sense to some apparently.

Wonderful to see both sides of government always have our best interests at heart   Roll Eyes



Don't vote for the major parties -

they both allow known terrorists to roam our streets and
they invite more to come here.


the west love terrorists because it justifies their involvement in the middle east thus keeping tabs on the oil supplies needed to fuel the west's fake economies Wink
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Re: Keeping terrorists who want to leave here
Reply #12 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 6:16pm
 
Black Orchid wrote on Nov 9th, 2018 at 8:45pm:
Well we let a lot of those who went off to Syria back in so forcing them to stay here is certainly common sense to some apparently.

Wonderful to see both sides of government always have our best interests at heart   Roll Eyes


I said it before - anyone who has an allegiance to a foreign state - even if it be a state without borders such as IS is - has chosen to forfeit their Australian citizenship and adhere to a foreign state instead.


No problem - hasta la vista, baby.... if that foreign state is one inimical to Western values - stamped never to be allowed to return.... been nice knowing you, Mohamed..... enjoy your trip-wire...
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Reply #13 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 6:18pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 9:52am:
What about when other countries try to send known Australian terrorists back here would you accept that....Would the Australian Government allow them to return....Would other countries accept someone who wants to migrate there knowing they are a threat....Cancelling their Australian passport does not guarantee they will be accepted by another country....We should deal with our own terrorists and not allow them to go anywhere they can kill innocent people just as other nations should IMO???

Huh Huh Huh


There's always Stage III then - Banishment - depart from our shores never to return on pain of death... begone thous vile and treacherous wretch.... you have 24 hours to make your getaway - after that any man may use deadly force against you....
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Re: Keeping terrorists who want to leave here
Reply #14 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 6:30pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 6:18pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 10th, 2018 at 9:52am:
What about when other countries try to send known Australian terrorists back here would you accept that....Would the Australian Government allow them to return....Would other countries accept someone who wants to migrate there knowing they are a threat....Cancelling their Australian passport does not guarantee they will be accepted by another country....We should deal with our own terrorists and not allow them to go anywhere they can kill innocent people just as other nations should IMO???

Huh Huh Huh


There's always Stage III then - Banishment - depart from our shores never to return on pain of death... begone thous vile and treacherous wretch.... you have 24 hours to make your getaway - after that any man may use deadly force against you....


Some of the right wingers on this forum have reached this stage already....Are you one of them Grap???

Huh Huh Huh
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