Auggie wrote on Nov 13
th, 2018 at 5:42pm:
This isn't what you've said before. You've conceded to me once that 'there is only so much you can stretch' in the Quran. I can't remember the exact context and details, but the implication was that there wasn't 'anything goes approach' in Islam.
You say that religion is entirely subjective, yet you adhere to some of the objective tenets of Islam, such as the fact that the Quran is the absolute, eternal Word of God.
So, I conclude that you are entirely incorrect.
No, those contentions of mine are my subjective beliefs. When I claim to 'adhere to some of the objective tenets of Islam' - thats me being entirely subjective on what constitutes 'objective tenets'. Thus the claim that you made that
what you believe about Islam might not correspond with what Islam teaches makes no sense - since "what Islam teaches" is entirely in the eye of the beholder, and cannot possibly be seen as some "objective truth". And the same goes for any other religion. There simply cannot be any 'objective tenents' to religion, and its a particularly strange claim to be made about a religion by someone who isn't even a follower of that religion.
Quote:So, if a person was a follower of Nazism as a religion, and believed that Hitler was a Prophet of God, and insisted that Nazism was a 'religion of peace', you should then, by your own logic, completely accept that 'subjective' view of Nazism and treat that person as you would any other person. After all, it's all subjective, isn't it.
Sure, why not. Surely the point though is that no one does. And this is the problem that FD never seems to get with his inane "Islam is no different to Nazis" meme - it completely dismisses what the reality actually is amongst both groups in the real world. Actual Nazis, probably 100% of them have no such beliefs about what their "religion" is. Unlike in Islam, where probably the majority actually do believe it is a religion of peace, or at the very least, not in any way an obstruction to peace and love and coexistence.