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Re: Luke Foley
Reply #45 - Nov 8^th, 2018 at 8:04pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 8^th, 2018 at 7:55pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 8^th, 2018 at 7:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 8^th, 2018 at 7:34pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 8^th, 2018 at 7:29pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 8^th, 2018 at 7:18pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 8^th, 2018 at 7:12pm:

creepy behaviour to say the least- how did she allow his hand to travel so far before moving away from him at the very miniumum- and to blame the booze- creep

Ags, I reckon it would have been shock and disbelief that it was happening.

Well i dont really buy that - if some geezer had his hand down my back he would have known about it- that much I do know- but to stand there and let the hands get as far as in the knickers- meh- Angry

That's you. Some people freeze when confronted by stressful situations. Some others may have clocked him.

Her reaction is no indication of what happend.

so she would not have recoiled in shock ?- of course she would have and the fondling would have stopped immediately- no response to a situtation like that is highly unusual- but to just let it happen- I call bullshiit

Freezing in times of stress is a common reaction.
Google fight, flight,freeze.

google "me too movement" and how its infecting everything right now- mostly males- its all too nasty- Im out- open your eyes guys- both of them

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6488 Gender:	Re: Luke Foley Reply #46 - Nov 8^th, 2018 at 8:06pm Meh, why the back of the pants?
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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14004 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: Luke Foley Reply #47 - Nov 8^th, 2018 at 8:24pm Gordon wrote on Nov 8^th, 2018 at 12:19pm: Cya, Luke, ya pervy kook. ABC reporter Ashleigh Raper said Labor leader, Luke Foley, placed his hand down the back of her dress and inside her underpants. What became of the ABC's pro-Labor bias ?
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 57162 Here Gender:	Re: Luke Foley Reply #48 - Nov 8^th, 2018 at 9:23pm Agnes wrote on Nov 8^th, 2018 at 7:12pm: creepy behaviour to say the least- how did she allow his hand to travel so far before moving away from him at the very miniumum- and to blame the booze- creep Have you seen the two of them - the booze is the only believable part of the story.
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Reply #49 - Nov 9^th, 2018 at 5:59am

Dnarever wrote on Nov 8^th, 2018 at 9:23pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 8^th, 2018 at 7:12pm:

creepy behaviour to say the least- how did she allow his hand to travel so far before moving away from him at the very miniumum- and to blame the booze- creep

Have you seen the two of them - the booze is the only believable part of the story.

are you saying only people who are sexually attractive to the mainstream groupthink have lustful urges?
thats not going to fly.

a high status male who is grounded in core confidence CAN make his initial approach to a woman a physical approach but for your average Joe Lunchbox, it would be a disaster.

there have certainly been occasions where men who can read body language and can read pupil dilation and can maintain good eye contact and not blink and show the signs of entitlement of a true alpha could do this and it would run smoothly.
but thats rare.
the woman would have to believe that the "prince had come".
she would have to believe that she has been chosen by the legitimate guy of the venue.

would there have been occasions where warren beatty or russell brandt or john kennedy or harvey from suits or micheal buble were able to do such a physical approach and have it work ?
probably yes.

but luke foley isnt built like that.

when a beta male tries it, it just comes accross as creepy.

and then he confirms hes a beta (an inferior male) by lying afterwards, by being indecisive, by emotionally threatening to sue, by not being able to man up and by letting the pressure of the group think make him into a coward.

so work on your masculinity guys, before you start trying to play at an elite level.
Luke obviously was not elite

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Reply #50 - Nov 9^th, 2018 at 6:13am

Agnes wrote on Nov 8^th, 2018 at 8:00pm:

cods wrote on Nov 8^th, 2018 at 5:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 8^th, 2018 at 5:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 8^th, 2018 at 4:57pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 8^th, 2018 at 4:54pm:

Fool Hand Luke is denying it happened

Luke Foley steps down as Labor Leader but says allegations are false
Luke Foley has stepped down as the NSW Opposition Leader, but denied that sexual harassment allegations made against him by ABC journalist Ashleigh Raper have any merit.

Where did he say that Big Mouth Short Pockets?

Link.

Here is another link.

Quote:

Luke Foley resigns as NSW Opposition leader after journalist’s groping claims

Anna Caldwell, Rose Brennan, The Daily Telegraph
November 8, 2018 3:17pm
Subscriber only

Foley put hand in my underpants: Journalist
Watch Foley’s original denial
Read journalist’s full statement

LUKE Foley has resigned as NSW Labor Party leader — but has reiterated his denials that he harassed an ABC journalist and will launch legal proceedings.

“The first thing I’d like to say is that the allegations against me today, made public by the ABC, are false. I’ve retained solicitors and senior counsels to advise on the immediate commencement of defamation proceedings in the Federal Court of Australia,” Mr Foley said.

“However I can’t fight to clear my name and fight an election at the same time. It’s just not possible to do both. Therefore I am resigning the leadership of the Labor Party effective today. This will enable a new leader to give his or her attention to the task of defeating the Liberal National government. I will be remaining the member for Auburn and returning to the backbench.”

What I don't know is what he was referring to there.

Oh well, there goes Raper's wish that the matter be left alone and that she be allowed to move on.

she Raper made it perfectly clear.. he slid his hand down the back of her evening dress into her underwear onto her bum...

he basically admitted it .. told her he knew had misbehaved BUT OF COURSE COULDNT REMEMBER WHAT.... how convenient is booze....

now he claims its all false...... Roll Eyes

hes done so much grovelling to her.... WHY would he do that if nothing happened... Angry

god some folks couldnt lie straight in bed.

because he is a politician and mud sticks- just making an accusation has ended many careers- there doest have to be a single thing behind it- I hope he contests it but the damage is already done-

totally disagree....

this was mentioned in the NSW Parliament by a MALE....no one had any idea who he was talking about.....Foley denied since day one...

its now the 8/11... and the women involved has spoken up.......she didnt ask for this agnes and to judge her like that I find .. not nice not nice at all..

would you prefer someone who puts his hand down the back of an unsuspecting females dress..

to maybe run NSW Govt?.......

because we wouldnt want a career ruined would we?. Roll Eyes

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if it happened to your daughter would you tell her to shut up agnes?

let the man have his career.

because thats what you are saying...

this lady would have spoken up when it happened in 2016 if she wanted to ruin his career.....its amazing how people always turn on the victim....to me there is a big difference in smutty talk to hands on..

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Reply #51 - Nov 9^th, 2018 at 6:19am

would there have been occasions where warren beatty or russell brandt or john kennedy or harvey from suits or micheal buble were able to do such a physical approach and have it work ?
probably yes

seriously aqua its hard to read that.... what utter rubbish....this was inside her clothing....you dont seem to understand what sort of violation that would be....its bad enough if a bloke thinks its ok to either slap or pinch a women on her butt.....and thats on the outside of her clothing..... she wouldnt LIKE IT I can promise you..

maybe you wouldnt mind you wife being violated by some one who looked alpha...

people are intimidated by Celebrity..... look how long it took to get Bill Cosby...

but no one claims its ok because of how you look... Angry

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Reply #52 - Nov 9^th, 2018 at 6:27am

cods wrote on Nov 9^th, 2018 at 6:19am:

would there have been occasions where warren beatty or russell brandt or john kennedy or harvey from suits or micheal buble were able to do such a physical approach and have it work ?
probably yes

seriously aqua its hard to read that.... what utter rubbish....this was inside her clothing....you dont seem to understand what sort of violation that would be....its bad enough if a bloke thinks its ok to either slap or pinch a women on her butt.....and thats on the outside of her clothing..... she wouldnt LIKE IT I can promise you..

maybe you wouldnt mind you wife being violated by some one who looked alpha...

people are intimidated by Celebrity..... look how long it took to get Bill Cosby...

but no one claims its ok because of how you look... Angry

it wouldnt be about what emotions i was feeling, it would be about what emotions my wife was feeling.
and violation is an emotive term.
see, you see such an approach as a violation.
so your pupils would contract, your body langauage would be all out of whack and any guy who touched you with half a brain would cease such touching.

but there are women who are a slow burn and there are women who are an explosive flame.
the man has to approach carefully, read the cues , correct and course correct for this to work.

but if you are saying that no woman was ever aroused and enjoyed the experience of being approached by a guy who was just a source of pure masculine energy, then i would say you are wrong.

50 shades of grey was a best seller and a box office smash.
and thats the story of a man who dominates women.

Luke Foley is not that man.
but dont be thinking that all women need 5 dates before they give some schmuck a peck on the cheek

and people arent just "intimidated " by celebrity.
some are "aroused".

teenage girls were breaking into the hotels in melbounre when the beatles first toured.

women who were so "aroused" that they were assaulting police officers to try to get to the hotel room to do what?
be "intimidated by a creepy male" Roll Eyes

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Reply #54 - Nov 9^th, 2018 at 7:27am

luke foleys crime is very hard for people to understand.

sure theres the innappropriate touching but theres a ton of information underneath that which is part of our deep subconscious.

its much more about a guy who cant handle his drives.

we want to be led by people who are competant to lead.
and a big part of that is people who have mastered themselves.
because if you cant master yourself, if you cant get your own self into shape, then you shouldnt be messing around trying to raise kids, you are in no shape to work with your family, you are a laibility to your community and the thought that you could be a leader of a very large group (like a state of some 8 million people) is just impossible to swallow.

so get yourself in order, learn to handle your drives,

if a 4 yo gropes a teacher , we think thats a bit off, but if a grown man does it , we have to ask, are you really a grown up integrated man.
you can be an integrated man and still very sexual. in fact you should. but it has to come from a place of integration, not from a place of disintegration

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Reply #56 - Nov 9^th, 2018 at 7:33am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9^th, 2018 at 7:27am:

luke foleys crime is very hard for people to understand.

sure theres the innappropriate touching but theres a ton of information underneath that which is part of our deep subconscious.

its much more about a guy who cant handle his drives.

we want to be led by people who are competant to lead.
and a big part of that is people who have mastered themselves.
because if you cant master yourself, if you cant get your own self into shape, then you shouldnt be messing around trying to raise kids, you are in no shape to work with your family, you are a laibility to your community and the thought that you could be a leader of a very large group (like a state of some 8 million people) is just impossible to swallow.

so get yourself in order, learn to handle your drives,

if a 4 yo gropes a teacher , we think thats a bit off, but if a grown man does it , we have to ask, are you really a grown up integrated man.
you can be an integrated man and still very sexual. in fact you should. but it has to come from a place of integration, not from a place of disintegration

you are entitled to your opinion as a horse trainer

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Reply #57 - Nov 9^th, 2018 at 7:38am

Agnes wrote on Nov 9^th, 2018 at 7:33am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9^th, 2018 at 7:27am:

luke foleys crime is very hard for people to understand.

sure theres the innappropriate touching but theres a ton of information underneath that which is part of our deep subconscious.

its much more about a guy who cant handle his drives.

we want to be led by people who are competant to lead.
and a big part of that is people who have mastered themselves.
because if you cant master yourself, if you cant get your own self into shape, then you shouldnt be messing around trying to raise kids, you are in no shape to work with your family, you are a laibility to your community and the thought that you could be a leader of a very large group (like a state of some 8 million people) is just impossible to swallow.

so get yourself in order, learn to handle your drives,

if a 4 yo gropes a teacher , we think thats a bit off, but if a grown man does it , we have to ask, are you really a grown up integrated man.
you can be an integrated man and still very sexual. in fact you should. but it has to come from a place of integration, not from a place of disintegration

you are entitled to your opinion as a horse trainer

i'll tell you one thing.
you go messing around with horses without having full emotional mastery and you will get hurt.
and luke shouldnt be messing around with women without full emotional mastery.
he got bucked off and stomped on.
treat a filly correctly with good positive energy and they will be sweet.
creep around, try to be sneaky, touch in an unmasterful way and you will get bit and kicked Wink

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Reply #58 - Nov 9^th, 2018 at 7:40am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9^th, 2018 at 6:27am:

cods wrote on Nov 9^th, 2018 at 6:19am:

would there have been occasions where warren beatty or russell brandt or john kennedy or harvey from suits or micheal buble were able to do such a physical approach and have it work ?
probably yes

seriously aqua its hard to read that.... what utter rubbish....this was inside her clothing....you dont seem to understand what sort of violation that would be....its bad enough if a bloke thinks its ok to either slap or pinch a women on her butt.....and thats on the outside of her clothing..... she wouldnt LIKE IT I can promise you..

maybe you wouldnt mind you wife being violated by some one who looked alpha...

people are intimidated by Celebrity..... look how long it took to get Bill Cosby...

but no one claims its ok because of how you look... Angry

it wouldnt be about what emotions i was feeling, it would be about what emotions my wife was feeling.
and violation is an emotive term.
see, you see such an approach as a violation.
so your pupils would contract, your body langauage would be all out of whack and any guy who touched you with half a brain would cease such touching.

but there are women who are a slow burn and there are women who are an explosive flame.
the man has to approach carefully, read the cues , correct and course correct for this to work.

but if you are saying that no woman was ever aroused and enjoyed the experience of being approached by a guy who was just a source of pure masculine energy, then i would say you are wrong.

50 shades of grey was a best seller and a box office smash.
and thats the story of a man who dominates women.

Luke Foley is not that man.
but dont be thinking that all women need 5 dates before they give some schmuck a peck on the cheek

and people arent just "intimidated " by celebrity.
some are "aroused".

teenage girls were breaking into the hotels in melbounre when the beatles first toured.

women who were so "aroused" that they were assaulting police officers to try to get to the hotel room to do what?
be "intimidated by a creepy male" Roll Eyes

OMG

what a load of crap.......go back to horses mate when it comes to humans you havent a clue...

even though you think you do..

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