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Why some people always want to help the FOREIGNERS
Nov 7th, 2018 at 8:01pm
 

It's a complete and utter wahnsinn how some people think they can fix the world. Nobody could, nobody will. You can't save everyone. And that's why nations exist. So people stick together. If Australia helps half of Africa, who's gonna help Australians that need help?

Oh wait. We don't talk about those Australians who live in extreme poverty. Of course not. Why would we. They're irrelevant and not a trending topic right now.

Now, what is trending is we help the Africans, Asians, Latinos & Muslims! Because "all White people are rich and privileged"! We should AT ALL COSTS ignore our own people, and help the FOREIGNERS!

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Reply #1 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 8:23pm
 
The Coalition will only help those who are already well off, have given tax cuts to the wealthy, cut foreign aid, refused to raise the dole, held innocent people in detention and treated them like crap....So how do we fix anything when all the right do is drive down the poor and enrich the rich....We are all part of the human race but some people think it is only their race that matters!!!

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Reply #2 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 8:47pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 8:23pm:
The Coalition will only help those who are already well off, have given tax cuts to the wealthy, cut foreign aid, refused to raise the dole, held innocent people in detention and treated them like crap....So how do we fix anything when all the right do is drive down the poor and enrich the rich....We are all part of the human race but some people think it is only their race that matters!!!

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Why do you bring it down to race rather than their own people? Australia is multiracial, it's sustainable, being the saviours of the world is not sustainable, no matter where they come from. It just so happens that those most wanting to come here are not of our culture, nothing to do with race. It's not a racial dilemma, it a cultural one. Yes, I'm a culturalist but I'm not racist. Some cultures are better than others and that is why you would not emigrate, why you choose to live here, you too are a culturalist.

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Reply #3 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 8:55pm
 
And what is your personal distinction between a culturalist and a racist?

You are happy to accept a Christian Indian but not a Muslim one...and similar.
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Aussie wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 8:55pm:
And what is your personal distinction between a culturalist and a racist?

You are happy to accept a Christian Indian but not a Muslim one...and similar.


Is Christian or Muslim a race or are Indians a race? Draw your lines for me.

Am I racist for believing some cultures are better than others? Just ask yourself in which culture you would most like to be a part of and bring your children up in, especially if you have daughters.
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Those who want to help foreigners profit from them!
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TheFunPolice wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
Those who want to help foreigners profit from them!


I have no problem with helping foreigners. I make no profit from my belief we should help others.
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Reply #7 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:05pm
 
Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:03pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
Those who want to help foreigners profit from them!


I have no problem with helping foreigners. I make no profit from my belief we should help others.

You represent those who profit!

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Reply #8 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:07pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:05pm:
Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:03pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
Those who want to help foreigners profit from them!


I have no problem with helping foreigners. I make no profit from my belief we should help others.

You represent those who profit!



And you represent the sheeple with no mind of their own. Reactionary imbiciles.
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Reply #9 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:35pm
 
Charity begins at home as "they" say.

I don't mind trying to help other nations as long as our own backyard is tidy.





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Reply #10 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:38pm
 
Amadd wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:35pm:
Charity begins at home as "they" say.

I don't mind trying to help other nations as long as our own backyard is tidy.


The biggest aid item Australia sends overseas is Bondi cigars.

Australia is parsimonious with aid money despite the evidence that aid money returns to Australia as much as fivefold.
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Reply #11 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:39pm
 
Amadd wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:35pm:
Charity begins at home as "they" say.

I don't mind trying to help other nations as long as our own backyard is tidy.


If you don't like imports, helping them stay in their own country is a worthy goal. You do that through aid so they have no need to move. Foreign aid is cheaper than weapons.


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Reply #12 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:43pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:38pm:
Amadd wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:35pm:
Charity begins at home as "they" say.

I don't mind trying to help other nations as long as our own backyard is tidy.


The biggest aid item Australia sends overseas is Bondi cigars.

Australia is parsimonious with aid money despite the evidence that aid money returns to Australia as much as fivefold.



Oh, I had to google that one. A word a day  Grin

I always thought that we were very generous per capita. Do you have a link to our stinginess?
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Reply #13 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:46pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:38pm:
Amadd wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:35pm:
Charity begins at home as "they" say.

I don't mind trying to help other nations as long as our own backyard is tidy.


The biggest aid item Australia sends overseas is Bondi cigars.

Australia is parsimonious with aid money despite the evidence that aid money returns to Australia as much as fivefold.


And you are just a dead shite with nothing to add beyond a one liner. It might be nice to see you grow to support your position.
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Reply #14 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:56pm
 
Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:46pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:38pm:
Amadd wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:35pm:
Charity begins at home as "they" say.

I don't mind trying to help other nations as long as our own backyard is tidy.


The biggest aid item Australia sends overseas is Bondi cigars.

Australia is parsimonious with aid money despite the evidence that aid money returns to Australia as much as fivefold.


And you are just a dead shite with nothing to add beyond a one liner. It might be nice to see you grow to support your position.

yes gotta hate ppl that do 1 liners  Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #15 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 10:06pm
 
Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 8:47pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 8:23pm:
The Coalition will only help those who are already well off, have given tax cuts to the wealthy, cut foreign aid, refused to raise the dole, held innocent people in detention and treated them like crap....So how do we fix anything when all the right do is drive down the poor and enrich the rich....We are all part of the human race but some people think it is only their race that matters!!!

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Why do you bring it down to race rather than their own people? Australia is multiracial, it's sustainable, being the saviours of the world is not sustainable, no matter where they come from. It just so happens that those most wanting to come here are not of our culture, nothing to do with race. It's not a racial dilemma, it a cultural one. Yes, I'm a culturalist but I'm not racist. Some cultures are better than others and that is why you would not emigrate, why you choose to live here, you too are a culturalist.



First you say why bring it down to race (although my comment was general) as Australia is multiracial and then you double down with those most wanting to come here are not of our culture (which is complete bullshit)....Your whole post is contradictory and shows you are a racist IMO!!!

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Reply #16 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 10:30pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:56pm:
Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:46pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:38pm:
Amadd wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:35pm:
Charity begins at home as "they" say.

I don't mind trying to help other nations as long as our own backyard is tidy.


The biggest aid item Australia sends overseas is Bondi cigars.

Australia is parsimonious with aid money despite the evidence that aid money returns to Australia as much as fivefold.


And you are just a dead shite with nothing to add beyond a one liner. It might be nice to see you grow to support your position.

yes gotta hate ppl that do 1 liners  Grin Grin Grin


I'm sure a carriage return would have helped. What was your point anyway? You don't like LTYC's one liners?  Wink
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Reply #17 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 10:34pm
 
Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 10:30pm:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:56pm:
Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:46pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:38pm:
Amadd wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:35pm:
Charity begins at home as "they" say.

I don't mind trying to help other nations as long as our own backyard is tidy.


The biggest aid item Australia sends overseas is Bondi cigars.

Australia is parsimonious with aid money despite the evidence that aid money returns to Australia as much as fivefold.


And you are just a dead shite with nothing to add beyond a one liner. It might be nice to see you grow to support your position.

yes gotta hate ppl that do 1 liners  Grin Grin Grin


I'm sure a carriage return would have helped. What was your point anyway? You don't like LTYC's one liners?  Wink


Ah, I get it, it's Greg's one liners you hate.
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Reply #18 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 10:38pm
 
Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 8:47pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 8:23pm:
The Coalition will only help those who are already well off, have given tax cuts to the wealthy, cut foreign aid, refused to raise the dole, held innocent people in detention and treated them like crap....So how do we fix anything when all the right do is drive down the poor and enrich the rich....We are all part of the human race but some people think it is only their race that matters!!!

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Why do you bring it down to race rather than their own people? Australia is multiracial, it's sustainable, being the saviours of the world is not sustainable, no matter where they come from. It just so happens that those most wanting to come here are not of our culture, nothing to do with race. It's not a racial dilemma, it a cultural one. Yes, I'm a culturalist but I'm not racist. Some cultures are better than others and that is why you would not emigrate, why you choose to live here, you too are a culturalist.



Wrong and absolutely funded by SOROS statement. You're a sellout to your country. Despicable.

Australia is:

British continue to be the majority with 67.4% of the population. This is followed by other European ethnicities: Irish (8.7%), Italian (3.8%), and German (3.7%). Those of Chinese ethnicity represent 3.6% of the population and the Aboriginal, and Native Australians are now only 3%. Other ethnicities can also be found, though in smaller numbers: Indian (1.7%), Greek (1.6%), Dutch (1.2%), and Other (5.3%).

Which makes it exactly 86,4% WHITE EUROPEAN.

Now go get your commission from SOROS.
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Reply #19 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 10:38pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:56pm:
Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:46pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:38pm:
Amadd wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:35pm:
Charity begins at home as "they" say.

I don't mind trying to help other nations as long as our own backyard is tidy.


The biggest aid item Australia sends overseas is Bondi cigars.

Australia is parsimonious with aid money despite the evidence that aid money returns to Australia as much as fivefold.


And you are just a dead shite with nothing to add beyond a one liner. It might be nice to see you grow to support your position.

yes gotta hate ppl that do 1 liners  Grin Grin Grin


Not that that wasn't a one liner, eh? Grin
Gotta hate that!
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Reply #20 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 10:47pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:56pm:
Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:46pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:38pm:
Amadd wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:35pm:
Charity begins at home as "they" say.

I don't mind trying to help other nations as long as our own backyard is tidy.


The biggest aid item Australia sends overseas is Bondi cigars.

Australia is parsimonious with aid money despite the evidence that aid money returns to Australia as much as fivefold.


And you are just a dead shite with nothing to add beyond a one liner. It might be nice to see you grow to support your position.

yes gotta hate ppl that do 1 liners  Grin Grin Grin


Grin And don't you hate it when people answer their question? I do.
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Reply #21 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 10:50pm
 
Българин wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 10:38pm:
Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 8:47pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 8:23pm:
The Coalition will only help those who are already well off, have given tax cuts to the wealthy, cut foreign aid, refused to raise the dole, held innocent people in detention and treated them like crap....So how do we fix anything when all the right do is drive down the poor and enrich the rich....We are all part of the human race but some people think it is only their race that matters!!!

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Why do you bring it down to race rather than their own people? Australia is multiracial, it's sustainable, being the saviours of the world is not sustainable, no matter where they come from. It just so happens that those most wanting to come here are not of our culture, nothing to do with race. It's not a racial dilemma, it a cultural one. Yes, I'm a culturalist but I'm not racist. Some cultures are better than others and that is why you would not emigrate, why you choose to live here, you too are a culturalist.



Wrong and absolutely funded by SOROS statement. You're a sellout to your country. Despicable.

Australia is:

British continue to be the majority with 67.4% of the population. This is followed by other European ethnicities: Irish (8.7%), Italian (3.8%), and German (3.7%). Those of Chinese ethnicity represent 3.6% of the population and the Aboriginal, and Native Australians are now only 3%. Other ethnicities can also be found, though in smaller numbers: Indian (1.7%), Greek (1.6%), Dutch (1.2%), and Other (5.3%).

Which makes it exactly 86,4% WHITE EUROPEAN.

Now go get your commission from SOROS.


Look what YOU wrote mate....Australia is multiracial....Then you claim that Australia is predominately white European (contradiction) which is bullshit considering most Australians were born here....Then you crap on about Soros who is a Yank and has nothing to do with Australia and certainly has no bearing on my comments....As for being a sell out to my country I would like to know how you come to that conclusion....You have no idea do you???

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10% does not mean multiracial, Soros.

P.S. Your average "multiraciale":


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Soros operates everywhere, you Jumbo Jet.

Let me remind you one of JFK's last speeches:

The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.

Today no war has been declared--and however fierce the struggle may be, it may never be declared in the traditional fashion. Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe. The survival of our friends is in danger. And yet no war has been declared, no borders have been crossed by marching troops, no missiles have been fired.

If the press is awaiting a declaration of war before it imposes the self-discipline of combat conditions, then I can only say that no war ever posed a greater threat to our security. If you are awaiting a finding of "clear and present danger," then I can only say that the danger has never been more clear and its presence has never been more imminent.

It requires a change in outlook, a change in tactics, a change in missions--by the government, by the people, by every businessman or labor leader, and by every newspaper.

For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.
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Българин wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 11:11pm:

Soros operates everywhere, you Jumbo Jet.

Let me remind you one of JFK's last speeches:

The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.

Today no war has been declared--and however fierce the struggle may be, it may never be declared in the traditional fashion. Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe. The survival of our friends is in danger. And yet no war has been declared, no borders have been crossed by marching troops, no missiles have been fired.

If the press is awaiting a declaration of war before it imposes the self-discipline of combat conditions, then I can only say that no war ever posed a greater threat to our security. If you are awaiting a finding of "clear and present danger," then I can only say that the danger has never been more clear and its presence has never been more imminent.

It requires a change in outlook, a change in tactics, a change in missions--by the government, by the people, by every businessman or labor leader, and by every newspaper.

For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.


The full speech including omissions....

https://www.jfklibrary.org/archives/other-resources/john-f-kennedy-speeches/amer...

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Is fain my brudda, is fain. Don't eva backchat the JFK, you don't heretic be, mai brudda cos JFK is gud my brudda.


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Is fain my brudda, is fain. Don't eva backchat the JFK, you don't heretic be, mai brudda cos JFK is gud my brudda.
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Its hard to tell of this one is being sarcastic or real.
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Reply #27 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 7:19am
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:38pm:
Amadd wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:35pm:
Charity begins at home as "they" say.

I don't mind trying to help other nations as long as our own backyard is tidy.


The biggest aid item Australia sends overseas is Bondi cigars.

Australia is parsimonious with aid money despite the evidence that aid money returns to Australia as much as fivefold.


You mean like the returns from our investment in the resource exploitation in West Papua? Thanks to our aid to Indonesia & our continual denial of the genocide being committed against West Papuans by the Indonesian military.

You continually condemn Australian culture & people as racists & inferior....... yet say nothing about Indonesian treatment of West Papuans.

You have nothing constructive to say and when it comes to Bondi Cigars you are the largest.
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Reply #28 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 7:44am
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 8th, 2018 at 7:19am:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:38pm:
Amadd wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 9:35pm:
Charity begins at home as "they" say.

I don't mind trying to help other nations as long as our own backyard is tidy.


The biggest aid item Australia sends overseas is Bondi cigars.

Australia is parsimonious with aid money despite the evidence that aid money returns to Australia as much as fivefold.


You mean like the returns from our investment in the resource exploitation in West Papua? Thanks to our aid to Indonesia & our continual denial of the genocide being committed against West Papuans by the Indonesian military.

You continually condemn Australian culture & people as racists & inferior....... yet say nothing about Indonesian treatment of West Papuans.

You have nothing constructive to say and when it comes to Bondi Cigars you are the largest.


But Gnads, sometimes benefit does not have to be measured in terms of monetary return.  Foreign aid had long being used in International poltitics as a tool, sometimes even a weapon.  Take for example Indonesia.  It has options of being cloer tie to the US/Aus, or perhaps China or Russia in the macrosphere.   In the relgious front, Australia had been helping building schools - that a secular, but at the same time, the Saudis had been building more religious based.    In these situations, so called foreign aid is less about helping the people in need, but rather secure the geo political atomospher around Australia.    And the same goes with pacific countries in counter to China's belt initiative.   As to other international aids, we merely follow the footsteps of USA and Western Allies.
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Reply #29 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 9:25am
 
Българин wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 8:01pm:

It's a complete and utter wahnsinn how some people think they can fix the world. Nobody could, nobody will. You can't save everyone. And that's why nations exist. So people stick together. If Australia helps half of Africa, who's gonna help Australians that need help?

Oh wait. We don't talk about those Australians who live in extreme poverty. Of course not. Why would we. They're irrelevant and not a trending topic right now.

Now, what is trending is we help the Africans, Asians, Latinos & Muslims! Because "all White people are rich and privileged"! We should AT ALL COSTS ignore our own people, and help the FOREIGNERS!

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For a Bulgarian, you seem to be very keen on meddling in Australia. Worry about your shithole.
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Reply #30 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 10:09am
 
Wealthy nations have an obligation to help poor nations as  everyone is on one planet....yet little countries like West Papua are used as pawns in the game of trade by the big players.

America the biggest player in the game in its fear of communism was responsible for Indonesia having control of West Papua.

The free-marketeers have control of the world and the world needs more democratic socialist governments to solve the inequality issues yet the global powers will stop that....your Murdoch's etc.

Nothing changes....there will never be a free West Papua.
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Reply #31 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 10:18am
 
Pedro Curevo wrote on Nov 8th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Wealthy nations have an obligation to help poor nations as  everyone is on one planet....yet little countries like West Papua are used as pawns in the game of trade by the big players.

America the biggest player in the game in its fear of communism was responsible for Indonesia having control of West Papua.

The free-marketeers have control of the world and the world needs more democratic socialist governments to solve the inequality issues yet the global powers will stop that....your Murdoch's etc.

Nothing changes....there will never be a free West Papua.



Damn straight, although in my mind I use Timor Leste instead of West Papua.
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Reply #32 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 11:06am
 
Българин wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 8:01pm:

It's a complete and utter wahnsinn how some people think they can fix the world. Nobody could, nobody will. You can't save everyone. And that's why nations exist. So people stick together. If Australia helps half of Africa, who's gonna help Australians that need help?

Oh wait. We don't talk about those Australians who live in extreme poverty. Of course not. Why would we. They're irrelevant and not a trending topic right now.

Now, what is trending is we help the Africans, Asians, Latinos & Muslims! Because "all White people are rich and privileged"! We should AT ALL COSTS ignore our own people, and help the FOREIGNERS!

Photos of Australians, from Australia, Sydney,
A gift of joy:



https://image.ibb.co/izox7q/PIC-Poverty.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/ftqYfA/homeless-man-in-sydney-getty-1.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/iLdx7q/64044654-95785941.jpg


That bottom photo is a bit old. All those slums have been done up and multi-million pricetags put on them

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Reply #33 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 11:17am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 8th, 2018 at 11:06am:
Българин wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 8:01pm:

It's a complete and utter wahnsinn how some people think they can fix the world. Nobody could, nobody will. You can't save everyone. And that's why nations exist. So people stick together. If Australia helps half of Africa, who's gonna help Australians that need help?

Oh wait. We don't talk about those Australians who live in extreme poverty. Of course not. Why would we. They're irrelevant and not a trending topic right now.

Now, what is trending is we help the Africans, Asians, Latinos & Muslims! Because "all White people are rich and privileged"! We should AT ALL COSTS ignore our own people, and help the FOREIGNERS!

Photos of Australians, from Australia, Sydney,
A gift of joy:



https://image.ibb.co/izox7q/PIC-Poverty.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/ftqYfA/homeless-man-in-sydney-getty-1.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/iLdx7q/64044654-95785941.jpg


That bottom photo is a bit old. All those slums have been done up and multi-million pricetags put on them

Spot



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