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Why do Muslims keep saying "God willing"
Nov 4th, 2018 at 7:28pm
 
What if he isn't, how would they know if he is, many questions, why do they continue doing what they are doing without a reply, billions of them get on their haunches five times a day for hundreds of years and still no reply.
I guess they assume God is willing. God willing.
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Reply #1 - Nov 4th, 2018 at 7:44pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 7:28pm:
What if he isn't, how would they know if he is, many questions, why do they continue doing what they are doing without a reply, billions of them get on their haunches five times a day for hundreds of years and still no reply.
I guess they assume God is willing. God willing.



It's the greatest con of all religions, you won't know the truth until after your dead.and if your wrong you won't know anything.

Whoever dreamed this scam up  is perfectly evil in their genius.
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Reply #2 - Nov 4th, 2018 at 8:17pm
 
Fatalist bvggers.. This way they are free from any responsibility.

Except, of course, when the Jews or other infidels poke them in the eye. THEN they are all hot for purposeful, jew and infidel killing jihad - itself Allah's will. The fatalist eternal return of the same.





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Reply #3 - Nov 4th, 2018 at 8:21pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 8:17pm:
Fatalist bvggers.. This way they are free from any responsibility.

Except, of course, when the Jews or other infidels poke them in the eye. THEN they are all hot for purposeful, jew and infidel killing jihad - itself Allah's will.




If its Allah's will then all is good because he is willing.
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Why do Muslims keep saying "God willing"




Allah's will,      is revealed within the inerrant Koran,     Allah's inerrant Koran.


Dictionary;
will = = the faculty by which a person decides on and initiates action.




1/ Love your 'brothers' in faith.

2/ Hate and kill, those who reject Allah's authority [ISLAMIC law], over their lives.




"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22


"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23


"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51


"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111


"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29


"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4


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Reply #5 - Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:56pm
 
The simple psychology behind it all is that they are trying to get at their opponents' superstitious subconscious. They have this idea that because Muslims are mostly superstitious, then non-Muslims must also be superstitious. So, if a Muslim invokes their God to help them in their activities, it supposedly puts a non-Muslim in an uneasy psychological position -- as if the "infidel" has no support.

Another factor to consider is that "God willing" is an expressed show of support for their own religion. A call to other people around that the Muslim is willing to show their faith is steadfast and to gather support of like-minded Muslims in whatever they do.
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Reply #6 - Nov 5th, 2018 at 3:10am
 
Why won't the apologists join in the virtue-signalling and blame Islam?

Crickets chirping.
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Reply #7 - Nov 5th, 2018 at 6:33am
 
Lucky god is a made up entity to suck the weak into submission.
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xtians also say "god willing"

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Reply #9 - Nov 5th, 2018 at 7:29am
 
I didnt know they did!...news to me.

as a matter of fact to me its the Americans that kind of overdo the religious bits...
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Reply #10 - Nov 5th, 2018 at 7:47am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:56pm:
The simple psychology behind it all is that they are trying to get at their opponents' superstitious subconscious. They have this idea that because Muslims are mostly superstitious, then non-Muslims must also be superstitious. So, if a Muslim invokes their God to help them in their activities, it supposedly puts a non-Muslim in an uneasy psychological position -- as if the "infidel" has no support.

Another factor to consider is that "God willing" is an expressed show of support for their own religion. A call to other people around that the Muslim is willing to show their faith is steadfast and to gather support of like-minded Muslims in whatever they do.


Ah - the 'ghost fence' ....
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Reply #11 - Nov 5th, 2018 at 7:50am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 3:10am:
Why won't the apologists join in the virtue-signalling and blame Islam?

Crickets chirping.


I blame Islam for all the current woes of the Muslims... God is apparently willing for them to suffer persecution in the West, Karnal... everyone is against them so their God must be willing that, too..... if they're in Git'mo it is God's Will ..... best solution is to let them play in their own sandpit and they can In'sh'Allah to their heart's content among themselves without bothering anyone else.

Why, God.. why did you give them the oil?  It's not as if they're putting it to much good.......
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Reply #12 - Nov 5th, 2018 at 7:52am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 7:19am:
xtians also say "god willing"

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Yes Christians also say "God willing"

Because

When men make big plans God laughs at them.

Only God knows when you will be summoned and then at that moment in time there are no beg your pardons.

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16 And he told them this parable: “The ground of a certain rich man yielded an abundant harvest.

17 He thought to himself, ‘What shall I do? I have no place to store my crops.’

18 “Then he said, ‘This is what I’ll do. I will tear down my barns and build bigger ones, and there I will store my surplus grain.

19 And I’ll say to myself, “You have plenty of grain laid up for many years. Take life easy; eat, drink and be merry.”’

20 “But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you. Then who will get what you have prepared for yourself?’


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Reply #13 - Nov 5th, 2018 at 8:05am
 
ان شاء الله
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Reply #14 - Nov 5th, 2018 at 8:06am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 8:05am:
ان شاء الله



Wishuijl???

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Islamic Jumanji....

Straight to Allah you are fled,
Lest some Musso take your head...
When the drone strikes one and three,
Then you'll watch the Mussos flee.   Huh

(drum-d-da-drum da-da -drum)...
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Reply #16 - Nov 5th, 2018 at 8:17am
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 6:33am:

Lucky god is a made up entity to suck the weak into submission.




Lucky too, that SATAN is      a made up entity      to suck the weak into submission.



Yadda said....
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If we tolerate evil, and wickedness, in others, WE WILL BECOME EVIL AND WICKED OURSELVES.
.....and today ppl just don't get that truth, IN FACT THEY SEEM TO STRENUOUSLY DENY THAT LOGIC.

When we embrace the concept of 'tolerance', of what is clearly evil,
...we OURSELVES become the evil we tolerate.

i.e.
A good person, cannot tolerate evil, in his/her presence.

i.e.
NO PERSON CAN TOLERATE EVIL, ....UNLESS THAT PERSON TOO,   IS EVIL.


And our [so called!] 'tolerance' of evil, is not tolerance.

Our 'tolerance' of evil, merely reveals the wickedness which is ALREADY within us!





When we choose to embrace, and to be 'tolerant', of those [in our midst] who are wicked,
...we OURSELVES, always become wicked.


We are always corrupted, by the wickedness which we [would] choose to tolerate.



Our tolerance of evil, is not a 'Christian' virtue.

If you are a person who is 'tolerant' of evil behaviour, or of the presence of what is evil,
DON'T KID YOURSELF,      ...God hates you.



Psalms 5:4
For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.


2 Corinthians 6:16
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18  And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.



A Holy people.
The Holy 'land'.
A Holy spirit [God's spirit].
...on a spiritual level these concepts are all connected with each other.



"I am the LORD your God, which have separated you from other people."


Leviticus 20:26
And ye shall be holy unto me: for I the LORD am holy, and have severed you from other people, that ye should be mine.


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Reply #17 - Nov 5th, 2018 at 8:25am
 
What's that saying in the bible Yadda

Donot judge your fellow man for it is with your very own judgment that God will judge YOU.....!
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Ajax wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 8:25am:
What's that saying in the bible Yadda

Do not judge your fellow man for it is with your very own judgment that God will judge YOU.....!




Ajax,

Everyday, in every way, we all exercise 'judgment' [make choices].

And in all of our relationships with others, we are constantly exercising 'judgment' [make choices].

Exercising 'judgment' [making choices] is unavoidable, in every human life.

And that is intentional.



A significant purpose of our life here, imo, is to choose,        between one thing, and another.
....to exercise 'judgment'.

And yes it is true,         in that [i.e. for the choices we make in this life], we will all come into judgement.



Dictionary;
discrimination = =
1 the action of discriminating against people.
2 recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another.       good judgement or taste.



Dictionary;
discriminating = = having or showing good taste or judgement.



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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1526025811/10#10
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tickleandrose,

Your estimation is that;        To judge and condemn [and punish] wicked and violent men, is a form of evil ?

Oh yes!

Of course it is, because we have to forgive.

And have to show mercy, to wicked and violent men,      don't we !
/sarc off

No [emphatically], we don't!




The God i seek, tells us, that when     we     refuse to judge and condemn [and punish] wicked and violent men, WE OURSELVES ARE WICKED [i.e. we share their wickedness].

He tells us, that when     we     refuse to protect the innocent, in that, we refuse to judge and condemn [and punish] wicked and violent men, WE OURSELVES ARE WICKED [i.e. we share their wickedness].

And,      we      multiply lawlessness in the land!





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Quote:

Isaiah 1:17
Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.


Exodus 23:7
Keep thee far from a false matter; and the innocent and righteous slay thou not: for I will not justify the wicked.


Leviticus 19:15
Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.


Deuteronomy 25:1
If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that the judges may judge them; then they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked.


Psalms 23:3
He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.


Isaiah 48:17
Thus saith the LORD, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go.
18  O that thou hadst hearkened to my commandments! then had thy peace been as a river, and thy righteousness as the waves of the sea:


Jeremiah 21:12
O house of David, thus saith the LORD; Execute judgment in the morning, and deliver him that is spoiled out of the hand of the oppressor, lest my fury go out like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings.


Jeremiah 22:3
Thus saith the LORD; Execute ye judgment and righteousness, and deliver the spoiled out of the hand of the oppressor: and do no wrong, do no violence to the stranger, the fatherless, nor the widow, neither shed innocent blood in this place.


Jeremiah 9:24
But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the LORD which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the LORD.


Amos 5:15
Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the LORD God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph.



AGAIN, AND AGAIN [in the Word of God]....

in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour
.
they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked
.
Execute judgment
.
deliver him that is spoiled out of the hand of the oppressor
.
Execute ye judgment and righteousness
.
deliver the spoiled out of the hand of the oppressor
.
establish judgment







.





Deuteronomy 8:2
And thou shalt remember all the way which the LORD thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments, or no.


Deuteronomy 30:19
I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:






Psalms 73:1
Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart.



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Reply #19 - Nov 5th, 2018 at 9:10am
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 8:06am:
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 8:05am:
ان شاء الله



Wishuijl???

Grin

It actually means God willing.
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Johnnie wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 9:10am:
Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 8:06am:
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 8:05am:
ان شاء الله



Wishuijl???

Grin

It actually means God willing.


ʾIn shāʾa llāh (Arabic: إن شاء الله‎, ʾin shāʾa llāhu; pronounced [ʔɪn ʃaːʔɑ ɫˈɫɑːh]), also inshallah, in sha Allah or insha'Allah, is the Arabic language expression for "God willing" or "if God wills". The phrase comes from a Quranic command which commands Muslims to use it when speaking of future events.




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Reply #21 - Nov 5th, 2018 at 3:01pm
 
Its almost the same as Praise the lord right? 

Its just a saying. 
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tickleandrose wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 3:01pm:
Its almost the same as Praise the lord right? 

Its just a saying. 

Yes but the Muslims take this seriously, its a command, that's why its heard so often.

"The phrase comes from a Quranic command which commands Muslims to use it when speaking of future events".
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Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 6:33am:
Lucky god is a made up entity to suck the weak into submission.

So all the practicing Muslims are weak people sucked into submission?  We should keep out all believing Mohamedans, then.

We have enough weak people here already.



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There's only one God and surely he ain't a Muslim. I don't need to show you a ton of proof but just to remind you the suffering of all Arabs and where they lived for thousands of years: in the sand. You can't grow anything on sand. Not tomatoes, not cucumbers, not even potatoes, and potatoes don't really need much care. Because of their blasphemous behaviour to worship a false God, they've been living in the sands forever. No water too. That's why you don't see the deserts settled already. They're living in a desolate lands not by a coincidence. They're being punished by wars and famine and other troubles. They need to grow a pair and finally see the reality of things.
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Religion creates sheeple...people who cannot think for themselves.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 7:47am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:56pm:
The simple psychology behind it all is that they are trying to get at their opponents' superstitious subconscious. They have this idea that because Muslims are mostly superstitious, then non-Muslims must also be superstitious. So, if a Muslim invokes their God to help them in their activities, it supposedly puts a non-Muslim in an uneasy psychological position -- as if the "infidel" has no support.

Another factor to consider is that "God willing" is an expressed show of support for their own religion. A call to other people around that the Muslim is willing to show their faith is steadfast and to gather support of like-minded Muslims in whatever they do.


Ah - the 'ghost fence' ....


I don't know what you mean. And what I mean is that Muslims think that they can intimidate people by claiming to have god on their side. However, in western countries, it just gives us non-religious people more reason not to give in to them.
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Българин wrote on Nov 7th, 2018 at 12:00am:
There's only one God and surely he ain't a Muslim. I don't need to show you a ton of proof but just to remind you the suffering of all Arabs and where they lived for thousands of years: in the sand. You can't grow anything on sand. Not tomatoes, not cucumbers, not even potatoes, and potatoes don't really need much care. Because of their blasphemous behaviour to worship a false God, they've been living in the sands forever. No water too. That's why you don't see the deserts settled already. They're living in a desolate lands not by a coincidence. They're being punished by wars and famine and other troubles. They need to grow a pair and finally see the reality of things.

Pretty much.  إن شاء الله‎
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The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 11:40am:

From memory that movie title and image with the priest sitting on top attracted a lot of attention from the Muslims, blasphemy, they have all probably had their heads cut off by now.
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Johnnie wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 2:43pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 11th, 2018 at 11:40am:

From memory that movie title and image with the priest sitting on top attracted a lot of attention from the Muslims, blasphemy, they have all probably had their heads cut off by now.


Do you have a link for that?
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