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Reply #15 - Nov 2nd, 2018 at 5:15am
 
The Polly Waffle VIRUS quotes from the lying Lefty biased ABC Socialist Propaganda Station.
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Reply #16 - Nov 13th, 2018 at 10:57pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 4:30pm:
crocodile wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 3:57pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 9:45am:
Yeah, but interest rates have been at historically low levels.

That's the problem with higher wages growth, inflation follows like night and day.  Sad

I'm old enough to remember interest rates at 17%  Shocked

I dare say that when interest rates get back up to "normal" many people are going to have big problems, being up to their eyeballs in debt.



Horseshit. Inflation takes off when wages grow without productivity growth. The reason wages are low is because productivity has been slipping away for years.


On the contrary ... Productivity has been going up.

https://i.imgur.com/IuoSJpC.jpg

What kicks off inflation is higher wages being met with higher prices to pay for the higher wages which leads to demands for higher wages ... which leads to higher prices ... etc

The old vicious circle.  Sad


p.s.

A longer date range ...

https://i.imgur.com/B1wrKu4.jpg




Unfortunately your charts show only labour productivity. Inputs from both labour and capital need to be considered. They do not work in isolation and combine to form total factor productivity.

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You will find that capital productivity has been in the shithole for most of this decade and strangling total factor as well. In time this will also stomp on labour productivity as investment dries up as a result. This is the primary reason why wages growth is only just keeping up with inflation.

Attempting wages growth above the rate of total productivity will most certainly add to inflation or unemployment ( but generally not both ).

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Reply #17 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:22am
 
if you live in australia in 2018, you are in the top .00001 % of richest people ever to walk the face of planet earth.

knowing that, if your emotional frame is still

"me,me,me and my rough little life", then there is literally no hope for you.
the lack of gratitude disgusts me
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Reply #18 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:26am
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:22am:
if you live in australia in 2018, you are in the top .00001 % of richest people ever to walk the face of planet earth.

knowing that, if your emotional frame is still

"me,me,me and my rough little life", then there is literally no hope for you.
the lack of gratitude disgusts me


But the rest are catching up, and fast. Some have surpassed. Stagnation of living standards should not be taken lightly.
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Reply #19 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:32am
 
crocodile wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:26am:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:22am:
if you live in australia in 2018, you are in the top .00001 % of richest people ever to walk the face of planet earth.

knowing that, if your emotional frame is still

"me,me,me and my rough little life", then there is literally no hope for you.
the lack of gratitude disgusts me


But the rest are catching up, and fast. Some have surpassed. Stagnation of living standards should not be taken lightly.



people think they will find fulfilment in what they "get"
they will find fulfilment in what they "become".

if you "become" an entitled little ungrateful worm who is always complaining about your rough little life, then you have "become" a piece of disgusting garbage and no one will want to be around you and no one will do business with you and you are screwed by your own actions.

the idea that you should feel entitled to blame the government or to blame successful people for your own sorry state is a reflection of your disgusting manifestation.

when i read posts from crybabies i literally imagine them as a 3 yo having a tantrum.

and no 3 yo who throws a tantrum when things dont "go his way" is ever going to move up in the world.
its just never going to happen
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Reply #20 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:49am
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:22am:
if you live in australia in 2018, you are in the top .00001 % of richest people ever to walk the face of planet earth.

knowing that, if your emotional frame is still

"me,me,me and my rough little life", then there is literally no hope for you.
the lack of gratitude disgusts me


Well except for the 200k homeless and the pensioners that dont own homes and have to pay rent

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Reply #21 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:16am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:49am:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:22am:
if you live in australia in 2018, you are in the top .00001 % of richest people ever to walk the face of planet earth.

knowing that, if your emotional frame is still

"me,me,me and my rough little life", then there is literally no hope for you.
the lack of gratitude disgusts me


Well except for the 200k homeless and the pensioners that dont own homes and have to pay rent

Spot



you really think that pensioners have it rough?
free health care, running water hot and cold, electricity, home help, meals on wheels, free specs and dentures and hearing aids.

you really think that thats rough?
you really going to run that arguement ?




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Reply #22 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:45am
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:32am:
crocodile wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:26am:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:22am:
if you live in australia in 2018, you are in the top .00001 % of richest people ever to walk the face of planet earth.

knowing that, if your emotional frame is still

"me,me,me and my rough little life", then there is literally no hope for you.
the lack of gratitude disgusts me


But the rest are catching up, and fast. Some have surpassed. Stagnation of living standards should not be taken lightly.



people think they will find fulfilment in what they "get"
they will find fulfilment in what they "become".

if you "become" an entitled little ungrateful worm who is always complaining about your rough little life, then you have "become" a piece of disgusting garbage and no one will want to be around you and no one will do business with you and you are screwed by your own actions.

the idea that you should feel entitled to blame the government or to blame successful people for your own sorry state is a reflection of your disgusting manifestation.

when i read posts from crybabies i literally imagine them as a 3 yo having a tantrum.

and no 3 yo who throws a tantrum when things dont "go his way" is ever going to move up in the world.
its just never going to happen


That's not the salient point of the thread topic. There is no mention of 3 yos and tantrums. The argument is bimbo O'Dwyer and her assertion that wages are growing well. They're not. It is a very grave situation in the long term and by a long shot the most important indicator that requires action.
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Reply #23 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 8:01am
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:16am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:49am:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:22am:
if you live in australia in 2018, you are in the top .00001 % of richest people ever to walk the face of planet earth.

knowing that, if your emotional frame is still

"me,me,me and my rough little life", then there is literally no hope for you.
the lack of gratitude disgusts me


Well except for the 200k homeless and the pensioners that dont own homes and have to pay rent

Spot



you really think that pensioners have it rough?
free health care, running water hot and cold, electricity, home help, meals on wheels, free specs and dentures and hearing aids.

you really think that thats rough?
you really going to run that arguement ?






What did i say? I said the pensioners that have to pay rent. Nothing is left for electricty etc.

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Reply #24 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 8:03am
 
crocodile wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:45am:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:32am:
crocodile wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:26am:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:22am:
if you live in australia in 2018, you are in the top .00001 % of richest people ever to walk the face of planet earth.

knowing that, if your emotional frame is still

"me,me,me and my rough little life", then there is literally no hope for you.
the lack of gratitude disgusts me


But the rest are catching up, and fast. Some have surpassed. Stagnation of living standards should not be taken lightly.



people think they will find fulfilment in what they "get"
they will find fulfilment in what they "become".

if you "become" an entitled little ungrateful worm who is always complaining about your rough little life, then you have "become" a piece of disgusting garbage and no one will want to be around you and no one will do business with you and you are screwed by your own actions.

the idea that you should feel entitled to blame the government or to blame successful people for your own sorry state is a reflection of your disgusting manifestation.

when i read posts from crybabies i literally imagine them as a 3 yo having a tantrum.

and no 3 yo who throws a tantrum when things dont "go his way" is ever going to move up in the world.
its just never going to happen


That's not the salient point of the thread topic. There is no mention of 3 yos and tantrums. The argument is bimbo O'Dwyer and her assertion that wages are growing well. They're not. It is a very grave situation in the long term and by a long shot the most important indicator that requires action.


bimbo O"dwyer should say this to the australian people

"you are a bunch of entitled lazy pukes.  Get off your fat and lazy asses and go invent a few things and start a few businesses and stop all the pathetic ungrateful sooking".

that would be a truthful and possibly even helpful speech.

but politicians cant make that speech because there are simply too many chodes, too many people who are low energy 'takers".

but heres the paradox Croc.

if you think that a politician and their "policy" is going to "save' you, then you are screwed.

and if you can repeat the speech that O'dwyer should be making to us and accept it fully, then you are saved.

and the fact that so many people are playing such a mediocre game because they cant/wont accept that speech only makes your ascent easier.

it would be hard hard hard if everyone out there was a hungry and motivated wolf.

but thanks to their wanting to be pandered to, thanks to them being sheep, it is so easy to climb it is a joke.

if you live in australia in 2018 and it isnt going well for you, you suck, its on YOU
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Reply #25 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 8:53am
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:16am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:49am:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:22am:
if you live in australia in 2018, you are in the top .00001 % of richest people ever to walk the face of planet earth.

knowing that, if your emotional frame is still

"me,me,me and my rough little life", then there is literally no hope for you.
the lack of gratitude disgusts me


Well except for the 200k homeless and the pensioners that dont own homes and have to pay rent

Spot



you really think that pensioners have it rough?
free health care, running water hot and cold, electricity, home help, meals on wheels, free specs and dentures and hearing aids.

you really think that thats rough?
you really going to run that arguement ?







lefties dont think like that aqua...

their cup is always half empty...

whenever they talk about wages... they always manage to forget about the

5 day week..
the public holidays they get paid for which keep growing..
the sick days they get paid for the
long service they get paid for...

all carefully forgotten about...   I have never seen crook mention that have you?

which is sad...

we are getting to be a miserable   POOR ME society here in Australia   

n o wonder no one is happy these days...

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Reply #26 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 8:58am
 
cods wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 8:53am:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:16am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:49am:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:22am:
if you live in australia in 2018, you are in the top .00001 % of richest people ever to walk the face of planet earth.

knowing that, if your emotional frame is still

"me,me,me and my rough little life", then there is literally no hope for you.
the lack of gratitude disgusts me


Well except for the 200k homeless and the pensioners that dont own homes and have to pay rent

Spot



you really think that pensioners have it rough?
free health care, running water hot and cold, electricity, home help, meals on wheels, free specs and dentures and hearing aids.

you really think that thats rough?
you really going to run that arguement ?







lefties dont think like that aqua...

their cup is always half empty...

whenever they talk about wages... they always manage to forget about the

5 day week..
the public holidays they get paid for which keep growing..
the sick days they get paid for the
long service they get paid for...

all carefully forgotten about...   I have never seen crook mention that have you?

which is sad...

we are getting to be a miserable   POOR ME society here in Australia   

n o wonder no one is happy these days...



How is that 5 day week going to help a homeless person? Or a pensioner with exorbitant rent?

Spot
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Reply #27 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 10:13am
 
cods wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 8:53am:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 7:16am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:49am:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2018 at 6:22am:
if you live in australia in 2018, you are in the top .00001 % of richest people ever to walk the face of planet earth.

knowing that, if your emotional frame is still

"me,me,me and my rough little life", then there is literally no hope for you.
the lack of gratitude disgusts me


Well except for the 200k homeless and the pensioners that dont own homes and have to pay rent

Spot



you really think that pensioners have it rough?
free health care, running water hot and cold, electricity, home help, meals on wheels, free specs and dentures and hearing aids.

you really think that thats rough?
you really going to run that arguement ?







lefties dont think like that aqua...

their cup is always half empty...

whenever they talk about wages... they always manage to forget about the

5 day week..
the public holidays they get paid for which keep growing..
the sick days they get paid for the
long service they get paid for...


all carefully forgotten about...   I have never seen crook mention that have you?

which is sad...

we are getting to be a miserable   POOR ME society here in Australia   

n o wonder no one is happy these days...



All thanks to Unions   Smiley
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Reply #28 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 10:26am
 
Bam wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 5:03pm:
I also don't accept the argument that productivity is "slipping away", at least not in Australia. If that were true, company profits would also be stagnant and that isn't the case. Perhaps your productivity argument includes the high levels of unemployment and underemployment?


A couple of points. Firstly, this so called growth in "company profits" we have been seeing in the last few years are really more of a short-term cash grab, achieved I suspect from a combination of cost cutting and suppression of wages - rather than actual productivity growth due to investments in R&D and expanding their markets etc.

Secondly, wage growth will only follow company profit growth if employees have bargaining power, which requires things like low unemployment/underemployment and strong workplace protection laws. On the employment front, the most significant development over the last decade or so has been the rise in underemployment, which misleadingly stifles the official unemployment figure. Yet underemployment basically has the same effect as unemployment - reduces the bargaining power of the employer. Basically the employee says "why should I give you a pay rise when I know there are plenty of other people looking for a job and will happily take the crap pay I am offering?"   

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-27/companies-profit-season-done-but-where-ar...
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