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Reply #15 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:03pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 7:45pm:
I asked one about the stars you see observing from northern ad Southern hemispheres and showed  imagess, the cognitive dissonance was palpable.


Then asked why you miss the bottom portion of a tall large object in the distance. The explanation was messed up to say the East.


Yeah, he tried to tell me the reason when you looked at a ship on the horizon and it seemed to be going below the horizon there was a gap where the ship and sea met as an answer to why ships disappear over the horizon.

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Reply #16 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:09pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:00pm:
64 genders? Keep up bloke that is so 2012. We literally have hundreds now.


Does it work like binary SHL(shift lefts)? Every time they shift one bit left it doubles? 64/128/256/512?

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Reply #17 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:12pm
 
Here is the best flat Earth answer I have heard when asked why people conspire to promote a spherical Earth, the answer is so NASA can continue selling millions of globes each year to schools and libraries etc and make billions of dollars from their scam.

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Reply #18 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:15pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:12pm:
Here is the best flat Earth answer I have heard when asked why people conspire to promote a spherical Earth, the answer is so NASA can continue selling millions of globes each year to schools and libraries etc and make billions of dollars from their scam.



Well that makes sense... except I've never had a NASA globe. Perhaps they get royalties from every globe made.
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Reply #19 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:17pm
 
I don't think NASA sell globes which makes it all the more hilarious.
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Reply #20 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:29pm
 
If any of you are interested in why I made the SHL comment above it's always been a fast way to multiply in Assembler, many times it's faster than using MUL(multiply) and you use it with ADD or SUB to get the result you want with less processor cycles. SHR divides by half.

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Reply #21 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:44pm
 
Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
If any of you are interested in why I made the SHL comment above it's always been a fast way to multiply in Assembler, many times it's faster than using MUL(multiply) and you use it with ADD or SUB to get the result you want with less processor cycles. SHR divides by half.




When is it useful to go up or down in such big specific chunks.

Also do you mean assembly language?
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Reply #22 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 9:06pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:44pm:
Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
If any of you are interested in why I made the SHL comment above it's always been a fast way to multiply in Assembler, many times it's faster than using MUL(multiply) and you use it with ADD or SUB to get the result you want with less processor cycles. SHR divides by half.




When is it useful to go up or down in such big specific chunks.

Also do you mean assembly language?


Yes.

You can go up or down in big chunks then apply ADD/SUB etc which altogether are less expensive than a multiply. MUL is an expensive operation in assembler. DIV is the same, you can SHR. Maybe processors have overcome that these days with microcode to do it for you but to SHL or SHR is one cycle no matter how far you shift.

I was expecting some political comment on the shift left or right to be honest. I guess not all bait is taken.
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Reply #23 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 9:12pm
 
Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:15pm:
Term Dog wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:12pm:
Here is the best flat Earth answer I have heard when asked why people conspire to promote a spherical Earth, the answer is so NASA can continue selling millions of globes each year to schools and libraries etc and make billions of dollars from their scam.



Well that makes sense... except I've never had a NASA globe. Perhaps they get royalties from every globe made.


They'd get royalties from the images used on the globes.


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Reply #24 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 9:13pm
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 9:12pm:
Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:15pm:
Term Dog wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:12pm:
Here is the best flat Earth answer I have heard when asked why people conspire to promote a spherical Earth, the answer is so NASA can continue selling millions of globes each year to schools and libraries etc and make billions of dollars from their scam.



Well that makes sense... except I've never had a NASA globe. Perhaps they get royalties from every globe made.


They'd get royalties from the images used on the globes.




We had globes before NASA was a thing.
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Reply #25 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 9:24pm
 
Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 9:06pm:
Term Dog wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:44pm:
Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
If any of you are interested in why I made the SHL comment above it's always been a fast way to multiply in Assembler, many times it's faster than using MUL(multiply) and you use it with ADD or SUB to get the result you want with less processor cycles. SHR divides by half.




When is it useful to go up or down in such big specific chunks.

Also do you mean assembly language?


Yes.

You can go up or down in big chunks then apply ADD/SUB etc which altogether are less expensive than a multiply. MUL is an expensive operation in assembler. DIV is the same, you can SHR. Maybe processors have overcome that these days with microcode to do it for you but to SHL or SHR is one cycle no matter how far you shift.

I was expecting some political comment on the shift left or right to be honest. I guess not all bait is taken.


I've started playing with arduino for hobby, I'm guessing assembly language is the next level.

Know any links how to get started using assembly language, I'm new to it all.

Learning python but a programmer told should have learned some more useful like C++ or html. So now thinking of starting again.
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Reply #26 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 9:28pm
 
Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 9:12pm:
Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:15pm:
Term Dog wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:12pm:
Here is the best flat Earth answer I have heard when asked why people conspire to promote a spherical Earth, the answer is so NASA can continue selling millions of globes each year to schools and libraries etc and make billions of dollars from their scam.



Well that makes sense... except I've never had a NASA globe. Perhaps they get royalties from every globe made.


They'd get royalties from the images used on the globes.




We had globes before NASA was a thing.


How did they have NASA tm images on them BEFORE NASA was a thing? Are you suggestion the moon is fake and time travel is possible?
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Reply #27 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 9:51pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 9:24pm:
Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 9:06pm:
Term Dog wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:44pm:
Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
If any of you are interested in why I made the SHL comment above it's always been a fast way to multiply in Assembler, many times it's faster than using MUL(multiply) and you use it with ADD or SUB to get the result you want with less processor cycles. SHR divides by half.




When is it useful to go up or down in such big specific chunks.

Also do you mean assembly language?


Yes.

You can go up or down in big chunks then apply ADD/SUB etc which altogether are less expensive than a multiply. MUL is an expensive operation in assembler. DIV is the same, you can SHR. Maybe processors have overcome that these days with microcode to do it for you but to SHL or SHR is one cycle no matter how far you shift.

I was expecting some political comment on the shift left or right to be honest. I guess not all bait is taken.


I've started playing with arduino for hobby, I'm guessing assembly language is the next level.

Know any links how to get started using assembly language, I'm new to it all.

Learning python but a programmer told should have learned some more useful like C++ or html. So now thinking of starting again.


Depends what you want to do. Languages are written for a reason, they make it easier to talk to/make the processor do what you want. For all intents and purposes a C(??) compiler should do the optimisations for you. All languages have their pros/cons. Learning any language will help you with others. Decide what you want to do, pick the thing that will suit it best, do you want it to integrate with HTML? Stand alone? Have it type checked? Learning assembler these days is probably not worth the effort. My programming days were last century/early this one. One of the reasons assembler was important to me because my hobby was cracking things and I had to read the disassembled code to do that.

How about this, QEMM, a DOS days memory manager encrypted it's registration info so it could not be read in the files. I ran their files through the simplest of encryption/unencryption methods XOR and cracked it, I couldn't believe my luck. I can take photos of my old paper notebook to show. I used to crack games and software, especially BBS software back in the day. I was the first to crack the INJOY PPP dialer for OS/2. I have a book filled with shyte that is useless now beyond showing what I did.

Pick what suits best, does what you want the quickest with the least work. If it's to be deployed online make sure it's the most secure/safe.

Edit: BJ, the guy who wrote Injoy for OS/2 and I had a convo one night on the OS/2 IRC channel. I told him I would refrain from cracking his code if he gave me a copy, he told me "no-one will crack Injoy", two days later I released registrations codes for the level of registration "Friend of BJ".

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Reply #28 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 10:09pm
 
Interesting experiences.

My interests are learning a language to control stuff like motors outside the computer and talk to transducers and sample and store what the transducer is reading eg temperature probe etc.

I'm not interested in software or programming per se more reading stuff from the environment and controlling  things outside the computer .

I can buy tools to do it but want to learn how to do it myself.

I think the area is called feedba and control.

I'm not that smart but i am obsessive.
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Reply #29 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 10:31pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 10:09pm:
Interesting experiences.

My interests are learning a language to control stuff like motors outside the computer and talk to transducers and sample and store what the transducer is reading eg temperature probe etc.

I'm not interested in software or programming per se more reading stuff from the environment and controlling  things outside the computer .

I can buy tools to do it but want to learn how to do it myself.

I think the area is called feedba and control.

I'm not that smart but i am obsessive.


Obsessive is good, obsession is drive. I'm not sure these days on what I would advise, too long out. If you want to post or pm more info I'll put a bit of thought into it.
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