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Thy word have I hid in mine heart
Oct 27^th, 2018 at 9:07am

Psalms 119:11
Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

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Frank wrote on Oct 26^th, 2018 at 7:05pm:

That is the point, Yadda.

No need for the biblical quotes as they are out of context and serve no purpose here other than being a whip (not their original purpose).

The point is well made without them and without whipping those who have no ears - or those who might have.

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issuevoter wrote on Oct 26^th, 2018 at 10:31pm:

It starts with Abraham and it ends with Jonestown KoolAid.

The messiah/Jesus myth is only part of it.

As for justifying it all on the grounds of free will, my cat has free will, perhaps not with manipulative power of higher mammals, but that cat makes up its mind what its going to do.

Scripture is recorded [i believe] as God's witness against all men.

Those who do believe that [is so], can profit from that belief.

But those who do not believe that, have that witness against them, that they chose to reject God's word.

And not only that, but that they chose to reject that hope, which God's word conveys to all men.

In that rejection, men are not rejecting the idea of some 'sky fairy' or, the idea of some imagined spirit being,
they are rejecting the righteousness of God, our creator.

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And it is easy, and it makes so much sense [to us], to choose to reject the righteousness of God.

IMO, many men see the righteousness of God, as being too 'black and white'.

Many men, have decided, that they also want 'options' and 'get-out' clauses, in any rules which apply to themselves!

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1310829488/10#10
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A system of laws [like those laws, that some of us suppose God gave to men, i.e. the ten commandments], will only have a beneficial affect upon a group of people, when that group of people all broadly agree, that they can all see some merit, in following such laws.

Romans 10:3
For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

Men [us], are really, really, good, at changing the world around us, to suit our own preferences [desires]!

But look at where, all of our choices [some remarkably good, and some very, very, bad], brought mankind, in this present world !

To human confusion [for many], and to violence and to never-ending conflict [among men].

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GOD'S RULES AND LAWS

Never old.

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Many people are repulsed by what scripture contains, particularly by what O.T. scripture contains.

We see the violence described [in scripture], but we 'pass over' those lessons which we ought to take to heart [as being irrelevant to ourselves, and to our own lives].

And that is a mistake, imo.

Those people, spoken of, in O.T. scripture, they are us!

Yadda said....
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I am a student of the Bible.

How i view O.T. laws, is that those laws teach man how to approach righteousness.

I firmly believe that.

And imo, those O.T. laws do teach man ethical behaviour.

And, [i believe that] that was their intended purpose.

How great, ancient Israel could have been among all the nations [as an example to all mankind], if they had only chosen to adhere to the laws which they had been given [and which they had covenanted to obey].

Deuteronomy 4:1
Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the statutes and unto the judgments, which I teach you, for to do them, that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which the LORD God of your fathers giveth you.
2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
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6 Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.
7 For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is in all things that we call upon him for?
8 And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?

if you got this far, sorry bobby.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Tim Neanderthal Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 187 White Hole Gender:	Re: Thy word have I hid in mine heart Reply #1 - Oct 27^th, 2018 at 11:14am Deuteronomy It is the great records of discovery of universal rule by mankind. Following the approaching and discovery of universal rule of human. We should overstep of our ancestor
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Term Dog Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1727 Gender:	Re: Thy word have I hid in mine heart Reply #2 - Oct 27^th, 2018 at 12:00pm But the words are clearly open to interpretation, as far as I know groups like JW's don't belie in eternity torture in hell for not accepting Christ, and obviously the Jews don't believe it.....etc. Who is correct,?
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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 20956 A cat with a view	Re: Thy word have I hid in mine heart Reply #3 - Oct 27^th, 2018 at 2:32pm Tim Neanderthal wrote on Oct 27^th, 2018 at 11:14am: We should overstep of our ancestor How do we do that Tim ? Like China is doing ? Is that what you mean ? You should not tell us what you mean, because then we would understand what you mean.
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Reply #4 - Oct 27^th, 2018 at 2:48pm

Term Dog wrote on Oct 27^th, 2018 at 12:00pm:

But the words are clearly open to interpretation, as far as I know groups like JW's don't belie in eternity torture in hell for not accepting Christ, and obviously the Jews don't believe it.....etc.

Who is correct,?

What do you believe 'the words' mean ?

Don't you have a right, to interpret, for yourself, what words mean ?

And isn't that, how each of us, comes to the understanding of 'things' ?

What are you, a man, or a mouse ?

...or simply another person, who seeks to avoid confronting what truth is ?

What is 'truth' ?

We each decide that, for ourselves, or, not.

But deciding to not choose [commit], is still choosing!

I said somewhere....
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One must choose a side.
....and not choosing, is also choosing!

Choosing to avoid a difficult moral choice [because it is too 'uncomfortable' for you, or because it may make you unpopular among men],
....is still making a choice!

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Revelation 21:7
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

God is really cruel isn't he!

He has said, that he will make us accountable, for all of our choices.

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Is it time to start making some good choices yet ?

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Reply #5 - Oct 27^th, 2018 at 3:21pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 27^th, 2018 at 2:48pm:

Term Dog wrote on Oct 27^th, 2018 at 12:00pm:

But the words are clearly open to interpretation, as far as I know groups like JW's don't belie in eternity torture in hell for not accepting Christ, and obviously the Jews don't believe it.....etc.

Who is correct,?

What do you believe 'the words' mean ?

Don't you have a right, to interpret, for yourself, what words mean ?

And isn't that, how each of us, comes to the understanding of 'things' ?

What are you, a man, or a mouse ?

...or simply another person, who seeks to avoid confronting what truth is ?

What is 'truth' ?

We each decide that, for ourselves, or, not.

But deciding to not choose [commit], is still choosing!

I said somewhere....
Quote:

One must choose a side.
....and not choosing, is also choosing!

Choosing to avoid a difficult moral choice [because it is too 'uncomfortable' for you, or because it may make you unpopular among men],
....is still making a choice!

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Revelation 21:7
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

God is really cruel isn't he!

He has said, that he will make us accountable, for all of our choices.

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Is it time to start making some good choices yet ?

Holy crap, you believe the truth is whatever you think the truth is, no wonder there are do many different brands of Christianity.

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Reply #6 - Oct 27^th, 2018 at 8:40pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 27^th, 2018 at 2:32pm:

Tim Neanderthal wrote on Oct 27^th, 2018 at 11:14am:

We should overstep of our ancestor

How do we do that Tim ?

Like China is doing ?

Is that what you mean ?

You should not tell us what you mean, because then we would understand what you mean.

China

They are waving flag of money.
Money is their God. Angry

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Reply #8 - Oct 29^th, 2018 at 9:33am

Term Dog wrote on Oct 27^th, 2018 at 3:21pm:

Holy crap, you believe the truth is whatever you think the truth is,

no wonder there are do many different brands of Christianity.

Term Dog,

Isn't that, what YOU believe the truth is ? .....i.e. the truth, is what YOU believe the truth is.

Why do YOU think that it is unusual or peculiar, for another person to seek meaning, using the same principle [in understanding things] as yourself ?

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #9 - Oct 29^th, 2018 at 9:40am

Tim Neanderthal wrote on Oct 27^th, 2018 at 8:45pm:

Dear Yadda,
Overstep our ancestor could be the universal rule.
The problem is if we overstep back?

Sorry Tim,

But i do not understand the meaning, of your phrase;

'Overstep our ancestor'

Can you better explain what your words mean ?

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Tim Neanderthal wrote on Oct 27^th, 2018 at 8:45pm:

How do we know we going ahead?

Tim,

Socially 'Progressive' ?

Is that what you mean ?

Tim,

Are rules like these [below], not 'Progressive' enough for you ?

What is wrong, with these rules ?

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12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
13 Thou shalt not kill.
14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15 Thou shalt not steal.
16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: Thy word have I hid in mine heart
Reply #10 - Oct 29^th, 2018 at 12:31pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 29^th, 2018 at 9:40am:

Tim Neanderthal wrote on Oct 27^th, 2018 at 8:45pm:

Dear Yadda,
Overstep our ancestor could be the universal rule.
The problem is if we overstep back?

Sorry Tim,

But i do not understand the meaning, of your phrase;

'Overstep our ancestor'

Can you better explain what your words mean ?

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Tim Neanderthal wrote on Oct 27^th, 2018 at 8:45pm:

How do we know we going ahead?

Tim,

Socially 'Progressive' ?

Is that what you mean ?

Tim,

Are rules like these [below], not 'Progressive' enough for you ?

What is wrong, with these rules ?

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12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
13 Thou shalt not kill.
14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15 Thou shalt not steal.
16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

Amazing then how many of those a supposedly Christian president has broken.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #11 - Oct 29^th, 2018 at 4:25pm

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12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
13 Thou shalt not kill.
14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15 Thou shalt not steal.
16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 29^th, 2018 at 12:31pm:

Amazing then how many of those a supposedly Christian president has broken.

Should it trouble me, excessively ?

All of us make mistakes in this life.

And we will all be judged, by God.

Psalms 73:3
For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.
4 For there are no bands in their death: but their strength is firm.
5 They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men.
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11 And they say, How doth God know? and is there knowledge in the most High?
12 Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.
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16 When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me;
17 Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.

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Reply #12 - Oct 30^th, 2018 at 8:51am

Yadda wrote on Oct 29^th, 2018 at 4:25pm:

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12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
13 Thou shalt not kill.
14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15 Thou shalt not steal.
16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 29^th, 2018 at 12:31pm:

Amazing then how many of those a supposedly Christian president has broken.

Should it trouble me, excessively ?

All of us make mistakes in this life.

And we will all be judged, by God.

So you're happy with a sinner in charge because he'll be judged by a non-existant deity.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #13 - Oct 30^th, 2018 at 9:14am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 30^th, 2018 at 8:51am:

Yadda wrote on Oct 29^th, 2018 at 4:25pm:

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12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
13 Thou shalt not kill.
14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15 Thou shalt not steal.
16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 29^th, 2018 at 12:31pm:

Amazing then how many of those a supposedly Christian president has broken.

Should it trouble me, excessively ?

All of us make mistakes in this life.

And we will all be judged, by God.

So you're happy with a sinner in charge because he'll be judged by a non-existant deity.

Not happy about such a circumstance, but 'we the people' chose him, he was lawfully elected, through the electoral system.

And, none of us will be judged by a non-existant deity.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #15 - Oct 31^st, 2018 at 10:09pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 29^th, 2018 at 9:40am:

Tim Neanderthal wrote on Oct 27^th, 2018 at 8:45pm:

Dear Yadda,
Overstep our ancestor could be the universal rule.
The problem is if we overstep back?

Sorry Tim,

But i do not understand the meaning, of your phrase;

'Overstep our ancestor'

Can you better explain what your words mean ?

.

Tim Neanderthal wrote on Oct 27^th, 2018 at 8:45pm:

How do we know we going ahead?

Tim,

Socially 'Progressive' ?

Is that what you mean ?

Tim,

Are rules like these [below], not 'Progressive' enough for you ?

What is wrong, with these rules ?

Quote:

12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
13 Thou shalt not kill.
14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15 Thou shalt not steal.
16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

Dear Yadda

The rules that you list are right to me.

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Reply #16 - Feb 10^th, 2019 at 10:54pm

article titles....

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The Grand Sheikh Francis of al-Vatican

Christian and Islamic worlds protect common values: life, family, religious sense, honor for the elderly

Pope: My trip to UAE wrote a “new page in history of the dialogue between Christianity and Islam”

Pope and Al-Azhar Grand Sheikh: “The fact that people are forced to adhere to a certain religion must be rejected”

Pope signs declaration with Grand Sheikh of al-Azhar condemning “terrorism and oppression” carried out in God’s name

It is as if all of the pope’s efforts have been directed to exonerating Islam from any of its responsibilities

Pope Francis praises UAE as “model of coexistence” with “respect for diversity”

Pope uses Epiphany to push globalism and open-door immigration in EU

Pope: Christians murdered by Muslims are testament to God’s plan for peaceful coexistence of Christians and Muslims

WWW search each line, or look here.....

https://www.jihadwatch.org/tag/pope-francis

"...deceiving, and being deceived."

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Pope Francis and the Grand Sheikh of al-Azhar, Ahmed el-Tayeb-2019

This, is what Pope Francis is embracing....

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"...Allah's curse be on them: [Jews and Christians]"

Koran 9.30, 31

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1 John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

2 Timothy 3:14
But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

John 14:16
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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