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Just as invalid as the others

I was kicked out of an atheist group for saying that. Why?

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Re: The Jewish God
Reply #1 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 9:16am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:28am:
Just as invalid as the others

I was kicked out of an atheist group for saying that. Why?

Spot



More details      spot ?

Which, atheist group ?

And what were your actual words ?

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #2 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 9:20am
 
If their atheists why the offence...?
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Reply #3 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 10:58am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:28am:
The Jewish God Just as invalid as the others

I was kicked out of an atheist group for saying that. Why?

Spot



You are going to have to give some context
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Reply #4 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 11:56am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:28am:
Just as invalid as the others

I was kicked out of an atheist group for saying that. Why?

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Judaism, Christianity & Islam are all Abrahamic religions based on the Jewish God.
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Reply #5 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 2:54pm
 
It was a facebook atheist group. They accused me of laughing at their dead relatives and said they were an atheist jew. I dunno I never mentioned the holocaust i was discussing religion. I thought maybe i broke some unspoken rule about not mentioning anything jewish.

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Reply #6 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 3:10pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 11:56am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:28am:
Just as invalid as the others

I was kicked out of an atheist group for saying that. Why?

Spot



Judaism, Christianity & Islam are all Abrahamic religions based on the Jewish God.






Wash out your mouth with CARBOLIC SOAP !!              Smiley



If your statement is true, why do the followers of ISLAM have an intense hatred for ZION, and for the Jewish people ?

Does the 'Jewish God', hate, the Jewish people ?
....supposedly, the same God which moslems worship.

Maybe the 'Jewish God' once loved the Jewish people, but he changed, and later decided to not love the Jews any more ?




What a lot of poppycock.



Deuteronomy 32:8
When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.
9  For the LORD'S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.
10  He found him in a desert land, and in the waste howling wilderness; he led him about, he instructed him, he kept him as the apple of his eye.


Malachi 3:6
For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Punished, but not destroyed, utterly.


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Reply #7 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 3:15pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 11:56am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:28am:
Just as invalid as the others

I was kicked out of an atheist group for saying that. Why?

Spot



Judaism, Christianity & Islam are all Abrahamic religions based on the Jewish God.


Yadda what dimension are you living in.....???

This statement is true...........!!!

God and Allah are one in the same dear............ Kiss

Abraham, Isaac & Ishmael.

Isaac - The Jews

Ishmael - The Arabs

sheezz and you claim to know the bible....?


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Reply #8 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 3:30pm
 
Ajax wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 3:15pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 11:56am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:28am:
Just as invalid as the others

I was kicked out of an atheist group for saying that. Why?

Spot



Judaism, Christianity & Islam are all Abrahamic religions based on the Jewish God.


Yadda what dimension are you living in.....???

This statement is true...........!!!

God and Allah are one in the same dear............ Kiss

Abraham, Isaac & Ishmael.

Isaac - The Jews

Ishmael - The Arabs

sheezz and you claim to know the bible....?





Ajax,

sheezz!!!! I'm glad to see that you    DO NOT    claim to know the bible.



Genesis 17:19
And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.


Genesis 21:10
Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac.
11  And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son.
12  And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.


Deuteronomy 32:8
When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.
For the LORD'S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.
10  He found him in a desert land, and in the waste howling wilderness; he led him about, he instructed him, he kept him as the apple of his eye.


Israel, those who are the children of Jacob, the son of Isaac.



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The children of Ishmael.....

Genesis 16:11
And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.
12  And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.


Arabs, as you say.


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Reply #9 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 3:35pm
 
Well thanks for the synopsis but you haven't proven anything other than God accepts all people.

BTW Arab or Jew they BOTH pray to the same God.
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Reply #10 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 4:24pm
 
Ajax wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 3:35pm:

Well thanks for the synopsis but you haven't proven anything other than

God accepts all people.



Ah, you read my post [Reply #8], but clearly you did not understand what the words you read meant.


Dictionary;
dyslexia = = a disorder involving difficulty in learning to read or interpret words, letters, and other symbols.



Deuteronomy 32:8
When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.
For the LORD'S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.


Psalms 73:1
Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart.


God attributes those who have 'a clean heart', AS BEING ISRAEL in his eyes,
as those who are accepted with him.

Not, 'all people'.


Acts 10:34
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35  But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.



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Ajax wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 3:35pm:

BTW Arab or Jew they BOTH pray to the same God.



Well, you go ahead and believe that, if it pleases you to do so.        Smiley


Q.
When was the last time that a moslem identified the God that he prays to,
as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob ?


Google;
a different god allah


Google;
allah another god


Google;
allah, god of israel, different gods


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Reply #11 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 4:27pm
 
Yadda - Islam is an Abrahamic religion -

it's copied and pasted from the Hebrew Bible - the Old Testament.

Where do you think they got the idea from to stone women to death for adultery?

Get your education from Bobby - the one who knows.
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Reply #12 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 4:29pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:28am:
Just as invalid as the others

I was kicked out of an atheist group for saying that. Why?

Spot

Mebbe because you are annoying?
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Reply #13 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:07pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 4:27pm:

Yadda - Islam is an Abrahamic religion -

it's copied and pasted from the Hebrew Bible - the Old Testament.

Where do you think they got the idea from to stone women to death for adultery?

Get your education from Bobby - the one who knows.




So you are asserting, as moslems do, that Abraham was a moslem ?

Even though there was no ISLAM, until around 650 AD ?



Google;
adam, noah, abraham, king david, were all muslims



Believe whatever you will bobby.




'Get your education from Bobby - the one who knows.'

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"And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world:"



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Reply #14 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:10pm
 
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religion

Abrahamic religion


An Abrahamic religion is a religion whose followers believe in prophet Abraham and his descendants to hold an important role in human spiritual development.


The best known Abrahamic religions are Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Smaller religious traditions sometimes included as Abrahamic religions are Samaritanism, Druze, Rastafari, Yazidi, Babism, Bahá'í Faith. Mandaeism is also sometimes included as an Abrahamic religion, but this is actually inaccurate as Mandaeans believe that Abraham was a false prophet.

True Abrahamic religions are monotheistic. They also all believe that people should pray to and worship God often. Of monotheistic religions, the Abrahamic religions have the world's largest number of followers. They are also all ethical monotheistic religions meaning they have a certain set of rules that they have to follow.
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Reply #15 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 10:07am
 
Yadda wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 3:10pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 11:56am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:28am:
Just as invalid as the others

I was kicked out of an atheist group for saying that. Why?

Spot



Judaism, Christianity & Islam are all Abrahamic religions based on the Jewish God.






Wash out your mouth with CARBOLIC SOAP !!              Smiley

If your statement is true, why do the followers of ISLAM have an intense hatred for ZION, and for the Jewish people ?



I think this answers your question Yadda

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Reply #16 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 8:06pm
 
There is only one god. It is the god created by man. And accordingly, it is pathetic.
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Reply #17 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 9:51pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:10pm:

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religion

Abrahamic religion


An Abrahamic religion is a religion whose followers believe in prophet Abraham and his descendants to hold an important role in human spiritual development.


The best known Abrahamic religions are Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Smaller religious traditions sometimes included as Abrahamic religions are Samaritanism, Druze, Rastafari, Yazidi, Babism, Bahá'í Faith. Mandaeism is also sometimes included as an Abrahamic religion, but this is actually inaccurate as Mandaeans believe that Abraham was a false prophet.

True Abrahamic religions are monotheistic. They also all believe that people should pray to and worship God often. Of monotheistic religions, the Abrahamic religions have the world's largest number of followers. They are also all ethical monotheistic religions meaning they have a certain set of rules that they have to follow.




If you want to believe that bobby [that ISLAM is an Abrahamic religion], that is OK.

I'm happy for you to agree that.



But there are other narratives out there.

Google;
"islam is not" "Abrahamic religion"


The best advice i can offer to you, is this;

Do your own research [i.e. go, wherever your spirit leads you], and then believe, whatever you believe.        Shocked






Hey bobby,        a lot of people want us to believe this too.    !!!


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"ISLAM ES PAZ"


IMAGE.....
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Everyone knows that true ISLAM, is a religion of peace.

/sarc off


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Reply #18 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 10:09pm
 
Which Jewish God you guys talking about, the OT mentions multiple gods.
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Reply #19 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 5:13am
 
Term Dog wrote on Oct 28th, 2018 at 10:09pm:
Which Jewish God you guys talking about, the OT mentions multiple gods.


I didnt know that. Well they are all as valid or invalid as any other religion

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Reply #20 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 8:26am
 
Term Dog wrote on Oct 28th, 2018 at 10:09pm:

Which Jewish God you guys talking about, the OT mentions multiple gods.



They, are the 'Gods of the nations'.

Those are Gods who were given [spiritual] authority over various peoples on this earth.

It is all there, in scripture, if you dig deep enough.



Those 'Gods of the nations', are other spirit entities.

They are created beings [created by YAHWEH], in the same sense that man too, is a created being.

Men would more correctly recognise the 'Gods of the nations', as DEMONS.



There is a mention of the 'Gods of the nations' in Psalms 82.

They are getting a 'dressing down', by YAHWEH.




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Reply #21 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 9:37am
 
That's not even close to being scripturally correct.

Is there a single Christian that has read the Bible?
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Reply #22 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 9:51am
 
Term Dog wrote on Oct 29th, 2018 at 9:37am:

That's not even close to being scripturally correct.

Is there a single Christian that has read the Bible?




#1, Yes it is.      The truth, is what i say it is !!      You said it is.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1540595233/5#5





#2, Yes, actually, many more than one.



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Reply #23 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 9:57am
 
And God said, let us make man in our image. Genesis 1:26
And the Lord God said, Behold, then man is become as one of us, to know good and evil. Genesis 3:22

Let us go down, and there confound their language. Genesis 11:7

The Old Testament God is a "god of gods" who is worshiped by the other gods..
For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords. Deuteronomy 10:17
Worship him, all ye gods. Psalm 97:7

O give thanks unto the God of gods. Psalm 136:2

No other god is like him.
Among the gods there is none like unto thee, O Lord. Psalm 86:8
He is better than the other gods.
Who is like unto thee, O LORD, among the gods? Exodus 15:11
Now I know that the LORD is greater than all gods. Exodus 18:11

Thou shalt have no other gods before me. ... Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them. Exodus 20:3-5

What God is there in heaven or in earth, that can do according to thy works? Deuteronomy 3:24

Our Lord is above all gods. Psalm 135:5

The other gods will die someday.
The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens. Jeremiah 10:11
The Hebrew God judges the other gods.
And against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment. Exodus 12:12
Upon their gods also the LORD executed judgments. Numbers 33:4

God standeth in the congregation of the mighty, he judgeth among the gods. Psalm 82:1

And will punish them.
I will punish the multitude of No, and Pharaoh, and Egypt, with their gods. Jeremiah 46:25
The Lord will be terrible to them: for he will famish all the gods of the earth. Zephaniah 2:11

He is a jealous God (whose name is Jealous). So he forbids us to "go after" or worship any of his competitors.
For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God. Exodus 34:14
Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you; (For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you.) Deuteronomy 6:14-15

Thou shalt not ... go after other gods to serve them. Deuteronomy 28:14

If you give God glory, he'll go easy on you and all your other gods.
Ye shall give glory unto the God of Israel: peradventure he will lighten his hand from off you, and from off your gods. 1 Samuel 6:5
And go not after other gods to serve them, and to worship them, and provoke me not to anger with the works of your hands; and I will do you no hurt. Jeremiah 25:6

But you must fear God more than all the other gods.
The Lord ... is to be feared above all gods. 1 Chronicles 16:25
For the Lord ... is to be feared above all gods. Psalm 96:4

Don't sacrfifice to any of the other gods. (Or God will kill you.)
He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed. Exodus 22:20
Don't put any of the other gods before him.
Thou shalt have none other gods before me. Deuteronomy 5:7
Don't make a covenant with them.
Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods. Exodus 23:32
Don't burn incense to them.
I will utter my judgments against them ... who have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods. Jeremiah 1:16
Or even mention their names.
Make no mention of the name of other gods, neither let it be heard out of thy mouth. Exodus 23:13
Put away your father's gods.
Fear the Lord ... and put away the gods which your fathers served. Joshua 24:14
And stay away from the god named Chemosh.
Wilt not thou possess that which Chemosh thy god giveth thee to possess? Judges 11:24
But don't revile the other gods.
Thou shalt not revile the gods. Exodus 22:28
Other people served other gods (as did Abraham's father Terah).
Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods. Joshua 24:2
And a witch once saw gods going up to heaven.
And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth. 1 Samuel 28:13
Always remember that people are gods too. (Jesus used this when he was accused of making himself a god.)
I have said, Ye are gods. Psalm 82:6
The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? John 10:33-34

And the three gods in heaven are really only one god. (Don't worry about this one too much. It's a mystery.)
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1 John 5:7
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Reply #24 - Oct 30th, 2018 at 12:17am
 
One of the names of God in Hebrew is Elohim.

That's plural.
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Reply #25 - Oct 31st, 2018 at 7:28am
 
Sorry Yadda.
But they are all right.

I suggest you read the book "The 10,000 faces of God" by the exceptional Mythologist Joseph Campbell (There is even a superb TV interview series called "The Power of Myth" just before he passed away. He studied it 'all' - like how the 'virgin birth' is a symbolic aspect of many cultures right around the world, even before Judaism was created ...by Man.

Judaism, Christianity & Mohommedism are all the same with subtle differences... no different to having the Liberals, Nationals, Labour, Democrats - they are all 'Politics'.

Judaism & Christianity are like two books joined together, but the 'story' is different. Christianity & Mohommedism are two separated books, but the 'story' is the same.

The main gist though, is that Christianity needs to be 'crucified' to unite both Islam & Israel as 'Istari' (IstarI = the 'star' between the two Pillars of God I & I ).
Germany has already broken its cross (Swaztika) and renounced Religion back to the Middle-East via the Jews.
Soon France will have to give up the 'holy ghost' back to the Moslems. Then it will be Italy's turn and finally Britain's.
Thus the 'four points' of the Christian Cross will be no more.

So, if you want to understand 'Christianity' fully ...and not just one paragraph. Then you must try to understand it 'all' and Christianity's place in the Big Picture.

God, Allah, Yalweh, Elohim, Jehovah, etc - they are all just 'faces' of the same.

But in its earliest form, long before Religion - It was those who worshipped the Sun, the Moon (Sin) or Earth (Life).
Each one had its position and role to play on the 'team'.

In a factory, there are those who just know how to run the machine they are at. While there others who understand how the whole factory works.  Wink

btw - it is Military that 'rules' Religion (in the Middle-East primarily) - not God.
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Reply #26 - Oct 31st, 2018 at 9:13am
 


@ Reply #23

Term Dog,

Thank you [truly] for compiling that list of verses in scripture, which refer to [a pre-eminent] God, and which also refer to many other 'gods'.
[that is how i parse those verses]

Nevertheless, me,      i have one God, i recognise the ONE God, the God who..."standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods."  ....the ONE God who is the solitary creator of all knowable things.


I recommend this audio file [at link below] to you,       which explains who the [plural] 'gods' are, and WHO YAHWEH IS.
[and this explanation aligns nicely with scripture, and even with ideas expressed in older Mesopotamian texts]
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1536933291/9#9



Term Dog,

A basic question.

Why can't men see God ?

I would offer; Because in this physical realm, what is [normally] apparent to men, is this physical realm,
and nothing else.

Here [in this physical realm], it is,      see, feel, touch, hear [and, within the limited range and capacity of our human senses].

But God, is a spiritual entity, and the entity which we know as 'God', resides in a spiritual realm
[aka to skeptics and atheists, as 'faerie land'       Smiley      ].



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One of the names of God in Hebrew is Elohim.

That's plural.




Raven,

To me, the word, 'elohim' means; An entity, who resides in the spirit realm.   i.e. a spiritual entity.

Think of the word 'elohim' as a 'descriptor', rather than 'a name of God'.

Yes, God, is an 'elohim', but SATAN and his angels are also elohim, plural.

Get it ?

If you want proof, i cannot prove it to you.   ....but i would encourage you to listen to the audio file [above].




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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1517615488/109#109
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Setanta,

Q.
If there is a God [wink], why does God 'hide himself' from mankind ?

Q.
If a person wanted to search for [in order to 'find' and to know God],
what 'prerequisite' would that person firstly need to be in possession of, in order to have an improved chance of 'finding' him ?





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Yadda said somewhere....
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IMO, atheists are people who hate truth.

Q.
What reasoning, do i apply in that statement?

A.
The possibility of (a) truth which does not comply with, and is not bounded within, their own comprehension, is offensive and unthinkable to atheists.

If you [an atheist] were to step outside on a sunny cloudless day, though you cannot see them, you would never dream of suggesting that there are no stars in the sky above your head.

Yet you [an atheist], do not have the humility to imagine that reality, is NOT bounded by the limits of your own senses and comprehension.


Go your own way.

Walk your own path.





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Jasin wrote on Oct 31st, 2018 at 7:28am:

Sorry Yadda.
But they are all right.


.....
So, if you want to understand 'Christianity' fully ...and not just one paragraph. Then you must try to understand it 'all' and Christianity's place in the Big Picture.

God, Allah, Yalweh, Elohim, Jehovah, etc - they are all just 'faces' of the same.






Thank you JaSin, for explaining your understanding of the universe to us.


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Jasin wrote on Oct 31st, 2018 at 7:28am:
Judaism, Christianity & Mohommedism are all the same with subtle differences... no different to having the Liberals, Nationals, Labour, Democrats - they are all 'Politics'.

Judaism & Christianity are like two books joined together, but the 'story' is different. Christianity & Mohommedism are two separated books, but the 'story' is the same.




same, different, same different - confused.

They are not the same in any way.

Joseph Campbell was a nice man and he wrote fascinating books and made TV series on comparative religion - but that's exactly his fatal flaw. Comparing from what perspective?

You cannot look at things from nowhere, through no-one's eyes (ie value-free observation of other people is impossible).


I suggest a much better way to decide about which religion is right and which wrong - read the best defenders of each and decide which one made the best case. For Christianity, I suggest Chesterton's Everlasting Man. For Judaism, Lord Sacks's books and essays.

But remember, religion is not a matter for the mind alone but for the heart and soul.
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Frank wrote on Oct 31st, 2018 at 5:58pm:
But remember, religion is not a matter for the mind alone but for the heart and soul.


But given that the religion a person follows is overwhelmingly decided by the family they are born into and given that there are 4,200 religions in the world "heart and soul" would seem to have very little to do with it.
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The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 31st, 2018 at 8:41pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 31st, 2018 at 5:58pm:
But remember, religion is not a matter for the mind alone but for the heart and soul.


But given that the religion a person follows is overwhelmingly decided by the family they are born into and given that there are 4,200 religions in the world "heart and soul" would seem to have very little to do with it.


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Seems legit.

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Close but no cigar Frank.

Sumerians created 'writing' (inspired by 'Sinn' [moon] above) and it was used primarily for 'recording' harvests, logistics, etc.
Long after the Babylonians conquered the Sumerians, a 'family' called 'JEW' used Writing to 'immortalise' their Family Tree/Bloodline - of which they put forth Adam & Eve as their first.
It was a 'power play' that made one Family more dominant over other families and thus 'Judaism' was born.

It was nothing more than that. From which many 'stories' came about.

Now you say "Heart & Soul". Well maybe Religion is the compassion of the poor in the Middle-East, but I doubt that very much in South America... more like 'power'!

Even in Australia, where we have 2/3rds more 'paperwork' than any other nation - chances are that 'our Religion' isn't so 'heart & soul' as you think.

...but lets face it. Religion in the Northern Hemisphere is for 'breeding', in the South - its for 'Power'.

I'm sure you worked that one out right?  Wink
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Frank wrote on Oct 31st, 2018 at 5:58pm:
Jasin wrote on Oct 31st, 2018 at 7:28am:
Judaism, Christianity & Mohommedism are all the same with subtle differences... no different to having the Liberals, Nationals, Labour, Democrats - they are all 'Politics'.

Judaism & Christianity are like two books joined together, but the 'story' is different. Christianity & Mohommedism are two separated books, but the 'story' is the same.




same, different, same different - confused.

They are not the same in any way.

Joseph Campbell was a nice man and he wrote fascinating books and made TV series on comparative religion - but that's exactly his fatal flaw. Comparing from what perspective?

You cannot look at things from nowhere, through no-one's eyes (ie value-free observation of other people is impossible).


I suggest a much better way to decide about which religion is right and which wrong - read the best defenders of each and decide which one made the best case. For Christianity, I suggest Chesterton's Everlasting Man. For Judaism, Lord Sacks's books and essays.

But remember, religion is not a matter for the mind alone but for the heart and soul.


You didn't say who to read for Islam, dear boy.

Sir Reggie?
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Jasin wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 12:24am:
Close but no cigar Frank.

Sumerians created 'writing' (inspired by 'Sinn' [moon] above) and it was used primarily for 'recording' harvests, logistics, etc.
Long after the Babylonians conquered the Sumerians, a 'family' called 'JEW' used Writing to 'immortalise' their Family Tree/Bloodline - of which they put forth Adam & Eve as their first.
It was a 'power play' that made one Family more dominant over other families and thus 'Judaism' was born.


In the beginning was the word, eh?

Nietzsche had fun with that one in his later years, no?

Good posting, JaSin.
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Jasin wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 12:24am:
Close but no cigar Frank.

Sumerians created 'writing' (inspired by 'Sinn' [moon] above) and it was used primarily for 'recording' harvests, logistics, etc.
Long after the Babylonians conquered the Sumerians, a 'family' called 'JEW' used Writing to 'immortalise' their Family Tree/Bloodline - of which they put forth Adam & Eve as their first.
It was a 'power play' that made one Family more dominant over other families and thus 'Judaism' was born.

It was nothing more than that. From which many 'stories' came about.

Now you say "Heart & Soul". Well maybe Religion is the compassion of the poor in the Middle-East, but I doubt that very much in South America... more like 'power'!

Even in Australia, where we have 2/3rds more 'paperwork' than any other nation - chances are that 'our Religion' isn't so 'heart & soul' as you think.

...but lets face it. Religion in the Northern Hemisphere is for 'breeding', in the South - its for 'Power'.

I'm sure you worked that one out right?  Wink



You speak as if nobody else had written down their family tree. Your little 'nothing-buttery' fails to explain why and how this particular 'family tree' has been so influential and effective in creating a civilisation that in turn created the modern world of which you are a member and a product.
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Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 2:15am:

In the beginning was the word, eh?

Nietzsche had fun with that one in his later years, no?



Ho, ho, ho,       it is to laugh, eh ?




John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.



"In the beginning was the Word"


One, Word.




"Universe"

Uni, means one.

Verse, means word.

Universe = one word.



And it was all just a 'co-incidence',           that human beings have come to refer to 'the everything',
with of a word, and with a basic human concept, which reduces to mean, 'one word' ?


Of course it was.        Smiley



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Yadda wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 7:14pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 2:15am:

In the beginning was the word, eh?

Nietzsche had fun with that one in his later years, no?



Ho, ho, ho,       it is to laugh, eh ?




John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.



"In the beginning was the Word"


One, Word.




"Universe"

Uni, means one.

Verse, means word.

Universe = one word.



And it was all just a 'co-incidence',           that human beings have come to refer to 'the everything',
with of a word, and with a basic human concept, which reduces to mean, 'one word' ?


Of course it was.        Smiley


Be inclined to believe the word if it weren't for the fact there was no word/s before humans wrote them. Some words found that were the same age as the universe would be compelling, but alas nothing.



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Frank wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 4:24pm:
Jasin wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 12:24am:
Close but no cigar Frank.

Sumerians created 'writing' (inspired by 'Sinn' [moon] above) and it was used primarily for 'recording' harvests, logistics, etc.
Long after the Babylonians conquered the Sumerians, a 'family' called 'JEW' used Writing to 'immortalise' their Family Tree/Bloodline - of which they put forth Adam & Eve as their first.
It was a 'power play' that made one Family more dominant over other families and thus 'Judaism' was born.

It was nothing more than that. From which many 'stories' came about.

Now you say "Heart & Soul". Well maybe Religion is the compassion of the poor in the Middle-East, but I doubt that very much in South America... more like 'power'!

Even in Australia, where we have 2/3rds more 'paperwork' than any other nation - chances are that 'our Religion' isn't so 'heart & soul' as you think.

...but lets face it. Religion in the Northern Hemisphere is for 'breeding', in the South - its for 'Power'.

I'm sure you worked that one out right?  Wink



You speak as if nobody else had written down their family tree. Your little 'nothing-buttery' fails to explain why and how this particular 'family tree' has been so influential and effective in creating a civilisation that in turn created the modern world of which you are a member and a product.


Well Frank. No-one else did 'immortalise' (because Writing set in stone lasted longer than many generations, just like cave-paintings... Der Roll Eyes) their 'Family tree'. The Jews were the first and they marketed the niche superbly. By immortalising their Family Tree (set in stone) via Writing they thus became 'Exiled' from the natural world and all its 'mortality'. They 'sold their souls' to the Written Word (GOD). As any Novelist, innovator, Musician, etc - and they will tell you that they lose a part of themselves into their creations. The Jewish Exile (the original one) is brought about (after many 'drafts') in perfection in the Story of the Fall from the 'natural' Garden (the Land, etc).
Because they were the first and 'official' they detached themselves from all others.

As for 'Modern' World - well, the Aboriginals were far more 'modern' than anyone in the Middle-East for tens of thousands of years long ago. Living in a high rise unit doesn't make you more 'civilised' than a Camper in the Bush (Syd/Mel are two good examples of 'uncivilised people').

Jews just acquired a gimmick/tool and put it to good use for their 'own' advancements and personal gains over the 'have-nots'. It was like some Family having the rights to the latest technology that takes the world by storm.

Of course, their personal Religion was manufactured and adapted over time, to meet the demands. The Power-play of dominating others (the have nots) worked.
...but then along came Jesus  Wink


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Reply #39 - Nov 1st, 2018 at 10:21pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 7:26pm:
Yadda wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 7:14pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 2:15am:

In the beginning was the word, eh?

Nietzsche had fun with that one in his later years, no?



Ho, ho, ho,       it is to laugh, eh ?




John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.



"In the beginning was the Word"


One, Word.




"Universe"

Uni, means one.

Verse, means word.

Universe = one word.



And it was all just a 'co-incidence',           that human beings have come to refer to 'the everything',
with of a word, and with a basic human concept, which reduces to mean, 'one word' ?


Of course it was.        Smiley




Be inclined to believe the word if it weren't for the fact there was no word/s before humans wrote them.






Term Dog,

Rubbish.



Of course there always existed,        'word/s before humans wrote them'.

They were not known or defined perhaps, as, 'words'.

But they still had 'expression' [just as 'words' do],       as ideas, and as concepts, and as hypotheses, and as suppositions.



Dictionary;
hypothesis = = a supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation.         a proposition made as a basis for reasoning.



Here is an idea [that is expressed in words], which conveys a concept [a serious AND an amusing concept];

a nod to someone called Soren....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1310829488/19#19
Quote:

A Jewish businessman sent his son to Israel for a year to absorb the culture.

When the son returned, he said, "Papa, I had a great time in Israel. By the way, I converted to Christianity."

"Oy vey," said the father. "What have I done?"

He took his problem to his best friend, Irving.

"Irving," he said, "I sent my son to Israel, and he came home a Christian. What can I do?"

"Funny you should ask," said Irving. "I, too, sent my son to Israel, and he also came home a Christian. Perhaps we should go see the rabbi."

So they did, and they explained their problem to the rabbi.

"Funny you should ask," said the rabbi. "I, too, sent my son to Israel, and he also came home a Christian. What is happening to our young people?"

And so they all prayed, telling the Lord about their sons.

As they finished their prayer, a voice came from the Heavens:

"Funny you should ask," said the Voice. "I, too, sent my Son to Israel ...."




And yet, many people just can't recognise the 'concept(s)', which are being conveyed in those 'words'.

Because the ideas those 'words' convey, remain incomprehensible to some minds/intellects.

Q.
Why is that ?



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I am here to tell you, that Yadda has a weird mind/intellect an overactive imagination.    [laughing]

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1310829488/17#17
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Reading the bible, i believe, has 'changed my mind', in every sense of that expression!





If there is a mind, there is an idea [a 'meditation'], about those 'things' which that mind perceives.

And if there isn't,     then something is very awry.   !!!




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Then there's this...


The Book of Judaism is 'oldest' - but its story is about 'youth' (fall from the Garden of youth), let alone influenced by Asia and all things about 'cities'.

The Book of Christianity is not as old, but its a story about Middle-Age, let alone influenced by Europe and its Healing/Cooking.

The Book of Mohommedism is 'youngest' - but its story is about old age and rising back into the Garden, let alone influenced by Africa and such things as the 'Land'.

So really, if one was fully Religious and totally understanding of all three Religions...

Then they would follow the Oldest Book in their Youth, convert to Christianity in their Middle-Age and then convert to the Youngest Book in their Old Age.
For that would be the TRUE PATH TO GOD.

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Actually as we get older we are usually less prone to believe myths and fairy tales.
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Jasin wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 9:20pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 4:24pm:
Jasin wrote on Nov 1st, 2018 at 12:24am:
Close but no cigar Frank.

Sumerians created 'writing' (inspired by 'Sinn' [moon] above) and it was used primarily for 'recording' harvests, logistics, etc.
Long after the Babylonians conquered the Sumerians, a 'family' called 'JEW' used Writing to 'immortalise' their Family Tree/Bloodline - of which they put forth Adam & Eve as their first.
It was a 'power play' that made one Family more dominant over other families and thus 'Judaism' was born.

It was nothing more than that. From which many 'stories' came about.

Now you say "Heart & Soul". Well maybe Religion is the compassion of the poor in the Middle-East, but I doubt that very much in South America... more like 'power'!

Even in Australia, where we have 2/3rds more 'paperwork' than any other nation - chances are that 'our Religion' isn't so 'heart & soul' as you think.

...but lets face it. Religion in the Northern Hemisphere is for 'breeding', in the South - its for 'Power'.

I'm sure you worked that one out right?  Wink



You speak as if nobody else had written down their family tree. Your little 'nothing-buttery' fails to explain why and how this particular 'family tree' has been so influential and effective in creating a civilisation that in turn created the modern world of which you are a member and a product.


Well Frank. No-one else did 'immortalise' (because Writing set in stone lasted longer than many generations, just like cave-paintings... Der Roll Eyes) their 'Family tree'. The Jews were the first and they marketed the niche superbly. By immortalising their Family Tree (set in stone) via Writing they thus became 'Exiled' from the natural world and all its 'mortality'. They 'sold their souls' to the Written Word (GOD). As any Novelist, innovator, Musician, etc - and they will tell you that they lose a part of themselves into their creations. The Jewish Exile (the original one) is brought about (after many 'drafts') in perfection in the Story of the Fall from the 'natural' Garden (the Land, etc).
Because they were the first and 'official' they detached themselves from all others.

As for 'Modern' World - well, the Aboriginals were far more 'modern' than anyone in the Middle-East for tens of thousands of years long ago. Living in a high rise unit doesn't make you more 'civilised' than a Camper in the Bush (Syd/Mel are two good examples of 'uncivilised people').

Jews just acquired a gimmick/tool and put it to good use for their 'own' advancements and personal gains over the 'have-nots'. It was like some Family having the rights to the latest technology that takes the world by storm.

Of course, their personal Religion was manufactured and adapted over time, to meet the demands. The Power-play of dominating others (the have nots) worked.
...but then along came Jesus  Wink



This is a mish-mash of nonsense.  "No-one else did 'immortalise' (because Writing set in stone lasted longer than many generations, just like cave-paintings... Der Roll Eyes) their 'Family tree'."

Gilgamesh

Greek mythology

Hammurabbi

Egypt
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But they were never done as 'Writing' in it's purist form, especially in the form of a 'Book' (the all purpose, carry anywhere comfortable empowering tool of status).
Pictures, glyphs and statues was as far as they progressed.

Writing. Just like what you see in front of you was like a Car replacing a horse and carriage.
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Reply #44 - Nov 2nd, 2018 at 6:36pm
 
Jasin wrote on Nov 2nd, 2018 at 2:24pm:

Then there's this...


The Book of Judaism is 'oldest' - but its story is about 'youth' (fall from the Garden of youth), let alone influenced by Asia and all things about 'cities'.

The Book of Christianity is not as old, but its a story about Middle-Age, let alone influenced by Europe and its Healing/Cooking.

The Book of Mohommedism is 'youngest' -
but its story is about old age and rising back into the Garden
.......




A completely nonsensical argument, from the keyboard of a person who makes no sense AT ALL, to me.


The Book of Mohommedism is 'youngest' - but its story is about old age and rising back into the Garden.......



Slaughter the infidel, and cut off their heads, and then rape their women and young girls,
....is a path to enable us to 'rise back into the Garden' ???




That       methamphetamine       you are smoking, is doing you no good at all jasin.




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The Bible texts are written by humans and humans decided which texts are biblical and they have argued and slaughtered each over who is right ever since.

That's enough to tell you there was no God that gives a shixt involved.
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Jasin wrote on Nov 2nd, 2018 at 6:20pm:
But they were never done as 'Writing' in it's purist form, especially in the form of a 'Book' (the all purpose, carry anywhere comfortable empowering tool of status).
Pictures, glyphs and statues was as far as they progressed.

Writing. Just like what you see in front of you was like a Car replacing a horse and carriage.


Your history is wrong, as pointed out, you are wriggling like a discarded Skink tail.
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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:28am:
Just as invalid as the others

I was kicked out of an atheist group for saying that. Why?

Spot


You were kicked out because jews control the media and internet.  Send them all to Tasmania.
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Gordon wrote on Nov 2nd, 2018 at 8:19pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:28am:
Just as invalid as the others

I was kicked out of an atheist group for saying that. Why?

Spot


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Reply #49 - Nov 2nd, 2018 at 8:46pm
 
Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 2nd, 2018 at 8:41pm:
Gordon wrote on Nov 2nd, 2018 at 8:19pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:28am:
Just as invalid as the others

I was kicked out of an atheist group for saying that. Why?

Spot


You were kicked out because jews control the media and internet.  Send them all to Tasmania.


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Reply #50 - Nov 2nd, 2018 at 9:18pm
 
Gordon wrote on Nov 2nd, 2018 at 8:46pm:
Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 2nd, 2018 at 8:41pm:
Gordon wrote on Nov 2nd, 2018 at 8:19pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:28am:
Just as invalid as the others

I was kicked out of an atheist group for saying that. Why?

Spot


You were kicked out because jews control the media and internet.  Send them all to Tasmania.


By the river called
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Floating their babies in reed baskets.


Floating their babies
In reed baskets, giving life
To the near dead
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Reply #51 - Nov 2nd, 2018 at 9:31pm
 
Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 2nd, 2018 at 9:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Nov 2nd, 2018 at 8:46pm:
Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 2nd, 2018 at 8:41pm:
Gordon wrote on Nov 2nd, 2018 at 8:19pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:28am:
Just as invalid as the others

I was kicked out of an atheist group for saying that. Why?

Spot


You were kicked out because jews control the media and internet.  Send them all to Tasmania.


By the river called
The Huon where we sat down
Exiled once again


Floating their babies in reed baskets.


Floating their babies
In reed baskets, giving life
To the near dead
?



Cabbie's master plan
The destiny of the jews
Extinct like tigers
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Zoological
It is anthropological
The jew will adapt
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What about God and the holy trinity..?

Father, Son & Holy Ghost....!

Three distinct beings that are one by nature.

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Reply #54 - Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:00am
 
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 8:53am:
What about God and the holy trinity..?

Father, Son & Holy Ghost....!

Three distinct beings that are one by nature.




What about them?

Are they real?
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Reply #55 - Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:10am
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:00am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 8:53am:
What about God and the holy trinity..?

Father, Son & Holy Ghost....!

Three distinct beings that are one by nature.




What about them?

Are they real?


We'll find out when we pass from this life.

I believe in God because nothing else can explain the miracle of life and our existence in the universe.
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Reply #56 - Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:26am
 
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:10am:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:00am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 8:53am:
What about God and the holy trinity..?

Father, Son & Holy Ghost....!

Three distinct beings that are one by nature.




What about them?

Are they real?


We'll find out when we pass from this life.

I believe in God because nothing else can explain the miracle of life and our existence in the universe.



You don't understand complexity so you settle for the simplest possible stories.

Strong life.
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Reply #57 - Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:33am
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:26am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:10am:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:00am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 8:53am:
What about God and the holy trinity..?

Father, Son & Holy Ghost....!

Three distinct beings that are one by nature.




What about them?

Are they real?


We'll find out when we pass from this life.

I believe in God because nothing else can explain the miracle of life and our existence in the universe.



You don't understand complexity so you settle for the simplest possible stories.

Strong life.


Well I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed but I am an engineer by trade so what are these complexities..?
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Reply #58 - Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:39am
 
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:33am:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:26am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:10am:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:00am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 8:53am:
What about God and the holy trinity..?

Father, Son & Holy Ghost....!

Three distinct beings that are one by nature.




What about them?

Are they real?


We'll find out when we pass from this life.

I believe in God because nothing else can explain the miracle of life and our existence in the universe.



You don't understand complexity so you settle for the simplest possible stories.

Strong life.


Well I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed but I am an engineer by trade so what are these complexities..?



If you have convinced yourself to believe in magic then I am not going to try and unconvince you.
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Reply #59 - Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:41am
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:39am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:33am:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:26am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:10am:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:00am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 8:53am:
What about God and the holy trinity..?

Father, Son & Holy Ghost....!

Three distinct beings that are one by nature.




What about them?

Are they real?


We'll find out when we pass from this life.

I believe in God because nothing else can explain the miracle of life and our existence in the universe.



You don't understand complexity so you settle for the simplest possible stories.

Strong life.


Well I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed but I am an engineer by trade so what are these complexities..?



If you have convinced yourself to believe in magic then I am not going to try and unconvince you.


Nothing magical or lucky about the creation of life and our existence, I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree.......... Kiss
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Reply #60 - Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:48am
 
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:41am:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:39am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:33am:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:26am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:10am:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:00am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 8:53am:
What about God and the holy trinity..?

Father, Son & Holy Ghost....!

Three distinct beings that are one by nature.




What about them?

Are they real?


We'll find out when we pass from this life.

I believe in God because nothing else can explain the miracle of life and our existence in the universe.



You don't understand complexity so you settle for the simplest possible stories.

Strong life.


Well I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed but I am an engineer by trade so what are these complexities..?



If you have convinced yourself to believe in magic then I am not going to try and unconvince you.


Nothing magical or lucky about the creation of life and our existence, I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree.......... Kiss



Ethereal being speaks and universe pops into existence, not magic at all.
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Reply #61 - Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:54am
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:48am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:41am:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:39am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:33am:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:26am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:10am:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:00am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 8:53am:
What about God and the holy trinity..?

Father, Son & Holy Ghost....!

Three distinct beings that are one by nature.




What about them?

Are they real?


We'll find out when we pass from this life.

I believe in God because nothing else can explain the miracle of life and our existence in the universe.



You don't understand complexity so you settle for the simplest possible stories.

Strong life.


Well I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed but I am an engineer by trade so what are these complexities..?



If you have convinced yourself to believe in magic then I am not going to try and unconvince you.


Nothing magical or lucky about the creation of life and our existence, I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree.......... Kiss



Ethereal being speaks and universe pops into existence, not magic at all.


Can you prove that God doesn't exist...........?

When you can look me up....!
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Can you prove invisible pink unicorns don't exist, pathetic argument.
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Silly analogy.
Nobody has experienced pink unicorns. Countless people have experienced god.
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Reply #64 - Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:04am
 
Frank wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 10:25am:
Silly analogy.
Nobody has experienced pink unicorns. Countless people have experienced god.


Do you have any evidence for that?
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Anyone who doesn't believe in the flying spaghetti monster must be beheaded.


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Frank wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 10:25am:
Silly analogy.
Nobody has experienced pink unicorns. Countless people have experienced god.


What's silly and pathetic, asking someone to prove a negative. That proves the desperate, hopelessness of your lost argument.
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Reply #67 - Nov 3rd, 2018 at 4:27pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:04am:
Frank wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 10:25am:
Silly analogy.
Nobody has experienced pink unicorns. Countless people have experienced god.


Do you have any evidence for that?
(apart from people "saying" they've experienced God)





The only evidence you have for psychological, emotional, mental events experienced by people is their saying so. Do you have any evidence that people are happy or sad, apart from people 'saying' they are happy or sad?


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Reply #68 - Nov 4th, 2018 at 10:27am
 
Frank wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 4:27pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:04am:
Frank wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 10:25am:
Silly analogy.
Nobody has experienced pink unicorns. Countless people have experienced god.


Do you have any evidence for that?
(apart from people "saying" they've experienced God)



The only evidence you have for psychological, emotional, mental events experienced by people is their saying so. Do you have any evidence that people are happy or sad, apart from people 'saying' they are happy or sad?



So you are saying that God is just a psychological, emotional, mental event?
I agree completely
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Reply #69 - Nov 4th, 2018 at 10:38am
 
Frank wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 4:27pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:04am:
Frank wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 10:25am:
Silly analogy.
Nobody has experienced pink unicorns. Countless people have experienced god.


Do you have any evidence for that?
(apart from people "saying" they've experienced God)





The only evidence you have for psychological, emotional, mental events experienced by people is their saying so. Do you have any evidence that people are happy or sad, apart from people 'saying' they are happy or sad?




You can objectively measure happiness and sadness in a person with physical and chemical lab tests.  You can also directly make  brain observations with mri.




What lab measurements are there to detect God?
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Reply #70 - Nov 4th, 2018 at 10:43am
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 10:38am:
You can objectively measure happiness and sadness in a person with physical and chemical lab tests.  You can also directly make  brain observations with mri.




What lab measurements are there to detect God?


Open you door go outside and look around and think of where we are, the way we are and what we are.


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Reply #71 - Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:00am
 
Ajax wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 10:43am:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 10:38am:
You can objectively measure happiness and sadness in a person with physical and chemical lab tests.  You can also directly make  brain observations with mri.




What lab measurements are there to detect God?


Open you door go outside and look around and think of where we are, the way we are and what we are.





Are you a pantheist now that believes God is the rocks, dirt, pile of dog shixt to my left and  everything??
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Reply #72 - Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:06am
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:00am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 10:43am:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 10:38am:
You can objectively measure happiness and sadness in a person with physical and chemical lab tests.  You can also directly make  brain observations with mri.




What lab measurements are there to detect God?


Open you door go outside and look around and think of where we are, the way we are and what we are.





Are you a pantheist now that believes God is the rocks, dirt, pile of dog shixt to my left and  everything??


I’m not saying that God is in the trees and the Earth but that’s what I wanted you to look at and other things like the birds, insects life in general, then think of Earth the layers in our atmosphere, the goldilocks zone the Earth is in the milky way the universe.

That’s got to be some sort of empirical measurement don’t you think….????

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Reply #73 - Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:12am
 
Ajax wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:06am:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:00am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 10:43am:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 10:38am:
You can objectively measure happiness and sadness in a person with physical and chemical lab tests.  You can also directly make  brain observations with mri.




What lab measurements are there to detect God?


Open you door go outside and look around and think of where we are, the way we are and what we are.





Are you a pantheist now that believes God is the rocks, dirt, pile of dog shixt to my left and  everything??


I’m not saying that God is in the trees and the Earth but that’s what I wanted you to look at and other things like the birds, insects life in general, then think of Earth the layers in our atmosphere, the goldilocks zone the Earth is in the milky way the universe.

That’s got to be some sort of empirical measurement don’t you think….????



So your saying because the universe exists the Christian Bible god exists, that's your empirical proof?


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Reply #74 - Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:27am
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:12am:
So your saying because the universe exists the Christian Bible god exists, that's your empirical proof?




It's proof of something, you must be aware of your surroundings right.

How did this all come to be...?

How did life and all its variations come to be....?

And don't go to the big bang theory that is even a greater story than the God hypothesis, in fact the big bang theory can only work if God exists.

In Genesis its says that God made the light first (explosion) and then he made the stars.

Or that a bunch of molecules hitchhiked on an asteroid and somehow found their way to Earth and that conditions just happened to be right so life could thrive.

How can you explain it....!?


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Reply #75 - Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:36am
 
Ajax wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:27am:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:12am:
So your saying because the universe exists the Christian Bible god exists, that's your empirical proof?




It's proof of something, you must be aware of your surroundings right.

How did this all come to be...?

How did life and all its variations come to be....?

And don't go to the big bang theory that is even a greater story than the God hypothesis, in fact the big bang theory can only work if God exists.

In Genesis its says that God made the light first (explosion) and then he made the stars.

Or that a bunch of molecules hitchhiked on an asteroid and somehow found their way to Earth and that conditions just happened to be right so life could thrive.

How can you explain it....!?




Yes the existence of the universe is proof that the universe exists. How does that prove Christian Bible god exists?

The big bang is irrelevant to your assertion that because I can walk outside and see stuff therefore Christian Bible god exists. You have made a non sequiter fallacy you need to fix.
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Reply #76 - Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:40am
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:36am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:27am:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:12am:
So your saying because the universe exists the Christian Bible god exists, that's your empirical proof?




It's proof of something, you must be aware of your surroundings right.

How did this all come to be...?

How did life and all its variations come to be....?

And don't go to the big bang theory that is even a greater story than the God hypothesis, in fact the big bang theory can only work if God exists.

In Genesis its says that God made the light first (explosion) and then he made the stars.

Or that a bunch of molecules hitchhiked on an asteroid and somehow found their way to Earth and that conditions just happened to be right so life could thrive.

How can you explain it....!?




Yes the existence of the universe is proof that the universe exists. How does that prove Christian Bible god exists?

The big bang is irrelevant to your assertion that because I can walk outside and see stuff therefore Christian Bible god exists. You have made a non sequiter fallacy you need to fix.


In life different organism behave and perceive life itself very differently I guess this also applies to humans as individuals as well....... Kiss Cheesy
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Reply #77 - Nov 4th, 2018 at 7:31pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 10:38am:
Frank wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 4:27pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:04am:
Frank wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 10:25am:
Silly analogy.
Nobody has experienced pink unicorns. Countless people have experienced god.


Do you have any evidence for that?
(apart from people "saying" they've experienced God)





The only evidence you have for psychological, emotional, mental events experienced by people is their saying so. Do you have any evidence that people are happy or sad, apart from people 'saying' they are happy or sad?




You can objectively measure happiness and sadness in a person with physical and chemical lab tests.  You can also directly make  brain observations with mri.




What lab measurements are there to detect God?

That is a really stupid thing to say.
Why would there be a random, no-reason chemical change in the brain?


The reductionism of all inner lives to brain chemistry and physiology is really stupid.


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Reply #78 - Nov 4th, 2018 at 7:33pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 10:27am:
Frank wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 4:27pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:04am:
Frank wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 10:25am:
Silly analogy.
Nobody has experienced pink unicorns. Countless people have experienced god.


Do you have any evidence for that?
(apart from people "saying" they've experienced God)



The only evidence you have for psychological, emotional, mental events experienced by people is their saying so. Do you have any evidence that people are happy or sad, apart from people 'saying' they are happy or sad?



So you are saying that God is just a psychological, emotional, mental event?
I agree completely



That is another really stupid thing to say. The ultimate 'nothing-buttery'.


Do you have any personal experiences that are not psychological, emotional, mental?  Being 'you' is such an experience. Don't you exist as 'you'?




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Reply #79 - Nov 4th, 2018 at 7:38pm
 
Ajax wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:40am:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:36am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:27am:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:12am:
So your saying because the universe exists the Christian Bible god exists, that's your empirical proof?




It's proof of something, you must be aware of your surroundings right.

How did this all come to be...?

How did life and all its variations come to be....?

And don't go to the big bang theory that is even a greater story than the God hypothesis, in fact the big bang theory can only work if God exists.

In Genesis its says that God made the light first (explosion) and then he made the stars.

Or that a bunch of molecules hitchhiked on an asteroid and somehow found their way to Earth and that conditions just happened to be right so life could thrive.

How can you explain it....!?




Yes the existence of the universe is proof that the universe exists. How does that prove Christian Bible god exists?

The big bang is irrelevant to your assertion that because I can walk outside and see stuff therefore Christian Bible god exists. You have made a non sequiter fallacy you need to fix.


In life different organism behave and perceive life itself very differently I guess this also applies to humans as individuals as well....... Kiss Cheesy



Your reply is irrelevant rambling, is the cognitive dissonance getting to you?
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Re: The Jewish God
Reply #80 - Nov 4th, 2018 at 7:40pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 7:31pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 10:38am:
Frank wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 4:27pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:04am:
Frank wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 10:25am:
Silly analogy.
Nobody has experienced pink unicorns. Countless people have experienced god.


Do you have any evidence for that?
(apart from people "saying" they've experienced God)





The only evidence you have for psychological, emotional, mental events experienced by people is their saying so. Do you have any evidence that people are happy or sad, apart from people 'saying' they are happy or sad?




You can objectively measure happiness and sadness in a person with physical and chemical lab tests.  You can also directly make  brain observations with mri.




What lab measurements are there to detect God?

That is a really stupid thing to say.
Why would there be a random, no-reason chemical change in the brain?


The reductionism of all inner lives to brain chemistry and physiology is really stupid.




No, saying things exist with zero evidence and no way to detect their existence is completely irrational.
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Reply #81 - Nov 4th, 2018 at 9:02pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 7:40pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 7:31pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 10:38am:
Frank wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 4:27pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:04am:
Frank wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 10:25am:
Silly analogy.
Nobody has experienced pink unicorns. Countless people have experienced god.


Do you have any evidence for that?
(apart from people "saying" they've experienced God)





The only evidence you have for psychological, emotional, mental events experienced by people is their saying so. Do you have any evidence that people are happy or sad, apart from people 'saying' they are happy or sad?




You can objectively measure happiness and sadness in a person with physical and chemical lab tests.  You can also directly make  brain observations with mri.




What lab measurements are there to detect God?

That is a really stupid thing to say.
Why would there be a random, no-reason chemical change in the brain?


The reductionism of all inner lives to brain chemistry and physiology is really stupid.




No, saying things exist with zero evidence and no way to detect their existence is completely irrational.


Ho, Humph, says you! Checkmate Atheists!
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Re: The Jewish God
Reply #82 - Nov 5th, 2018 at 7:04pm
 
Well its pretty obvious of those members who live in a small rural town, believe that their town is the all-powerful and only one in existence - not being able to accept, let alone comprehend/understand the entire continent they are a part of (and all the other towns)... and 'planet'.  Roll Eyes

Here's one for yas.  Grin

So the Moslems will do to the French
what the Germans did to the Jews.
Then the Italians will get the unarmed Moslems
and the armed Jews will get the Italians.
Then the British will have to face a 'united' Jew/Moslem nation (Istari)...

...all just a process of the 'Four' Christian nations of Europe giving up their Religious empowerments (Knowledge) that they stole from the Middle-East to colonise the world.
First Germany, then France, then Italy and finally Britain (who is the one that gets 'sacrificed'  Wink - because it's colonies 'succeeded').

Knowledge is God is Knowledge.
God is not 'Life'.
Knowledge is like the Moon (Sin) - lifeless, but an inspiration to reach by knowledgeable means (like Spacecraft). Each of the x8 Regions will 'touch the moon' in their own way. Religion has, the USA has by 'flight'... I wonder if Australia ever will in its 'own' unique way?  Wink

Life is Gaia, Mother Earth ...the Earth.

So besides throwing boring cliché sledges about my comments. How about offering up something 'better' than what I put forth? No? Didn't think so.
Maybe its because you aren't progressive?
Maybe its because you never read the last chapter of the script yet?  Tongue
Maybe you're just plain ignorant and live in a small town?

Hell.
Maybe we'll see the New Worlds of Nth America (Mormonism?), Sth America and Sahul (Australia) usher in the future Religions that liberates the Middle-East from the backwards bitter past of the Old World Religions that represented Europe, Asia & Africa?? Huh Huh Huh ... Wink in the form of Judaism, Christianity & Mohommedism.

And you think the CIA has secrets  Wink
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Re: The Jewish God
Reply #83 - Nov 5th, 2018 at 7:36pm
 
Jasin wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 7:04pm:
Well its pretty obvious of those members who live in a small rural town, believe that their town is the all-powerful and only one in existence - not being able to accept, let alone comprehend/understand the entire continent they are a part of (and all the other towns)... and 'planet'.  Roll Eyes

Here's one for yas.  Grin

So the Moslems will do to the French
what the Germans did to the Jews.
Then the Italians will get the unarmed Moslems
and the armed Jews will get the Italians.
Then the British will have to face a 'united' Jew/Moslem nation (Istari)...

...all just a process of the 'Four' Christian nations of Europe giving up their Religious empowerments (Knowledge) that they stole from the Middle-East to colonise the world.
First Germany, then France, then Italy and finally Britain (who is the one that gets 'sacrificed'  Wink - because it's colonies 'succeeded').

Knowledge is God is Knowledge.
God is not 'Life'.
Knowledge is like the Moon (Sin) - lifeless, but an inspiration to reach by knowledgeable means (like Spacecraft). Each of the x8 Regions will 'touch the moon' in their own way. Religion has, the USA has by 'flight'... I wonder if Australia ever will in its 'own' unique way?  Wink

Life is Gaia, Mother Earth ...the Earth.

So besides throwing boring cliché sledges about my comments. How about offering up something 'better' than what I put forth? No? Didn't think so.
Maybe its because you aren't progressive?
Maybe its because you never read the last chapter of the script yet?  Tongue
Maybe you're just plain ignorant and live in a small town?

Hell.
Maybe we'll see the New Worlds of Nth America (Mormonism?), Sth America and Sahul (Australia) usher in the future Religions that liberates the Middle-East from the backwards bitter past of the Old World Religions that represented Europe, Asia & Africa?? Huh Huh Huh ... Wink in the form of Judaism, Christianity & Mohommedism.

And you think the CIA has secrets  Wink
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin




HUH???????
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Re: The Jewish God
Reply #84 - Nov 5th, 2018 at 8:01pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 7:36pm:
Jasin wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 7:04pm:
Well its pretty obvious of those members who live in a small rural town, believe that their town is the all-powerful and only one in existence - not being able to accept, let alone comprehend/understand the entire continent they are a part of (and all the other towns)... and 'planet'.  Roll Eyes

Here's one for yas.  Grin

So the Moslems will do to the French
what the Germans did to the Jews.
Then the Italians will get the unarmed Moslems
and the armed Jews will get the Italians.
Then the British will have to face a 'united' Jew/Moslem nation (Istari)...

...all just a process of the 'Four' Christian nations of Europe giving up their Religious empowerments (Knowledge) that they stole from the Middle-East to colonise the world.
First Germany, then France, then Italy and finally Britain (who is the one that gets 'sacrificed'  Wink - because it's colonies 'succeeded').

Knowledge is God is Knowledge.
God is not 'Life'.
Knowledge is like the Moon (Sin) - lifeless, but an inspiration to reach by knowledgeable means (like Spacecraft). Each of the x8 Regions will 'touch the moon' in their own way. Religion has, the USA has by 'flight'... I wonder if Australia ever will in its 'own' unique way?  Wink

Life is Gaia, Mother Earth ...the Earth.

So besides throwing boring cliché sledges about my comments. How about offering up something 'better' than what I put forth? No? Didn't think so.
Maybe its because you aren't progressive?
Maybe its because you never read the last chapter of the script yet?  Tongue
Maybe you're just plain ignorant and live in a small town?

Hell.
Maybe we'll see the New Worlds of Nth America (Mormonism?), Sth America and Sahul (Australia) usher in the future Religions that liberates the Middle-East from the backwards bitter past of the Old World Religions that represented Europe, Asia & Africa?? Huh Huh Huh ... Wink in the form of Judaism, Christianity & Mohommedism.

And you think the CIA has secrets  Wink
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin




HUH???????


Not my fault you guys are still locked in the past dribbling over what is already 'known'.

Hurry up, catch up - there is a lot still 'to know'.  Wink
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Re: The Jewish God
Reply #85 - Nov 5th, 2018 at 8:12pm
 
Jasin wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 8:01pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 7:36pm:
Jasin wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 7:04pm:
Well its pretty obvious of those members who live in a small rural town, believe that their town is the all-powerful and only one in existence - not being able to accept, let alone comprehend/understand the entire continent they are a part of (and all the other towns)... and 'planet'.  Roll Eyes

Here's one for yas.  Grin

So the Moslems will do to the French
what the Germans did to the Jews.
Then the Italians will get the unarmed Moslems
and the armed Jews will get the Italians.
Then the British will have to face a 'united' Jew/Moslem nation (Istari)...

...all just a process of the 'Four' Christian nations of Europe giving up their Religious empowerments (Knowledge) that they stole from the Middle-East to colonise the world.
First Germany, then France, then Italy and finally Britain (who is the one that gets 'sacrificed'  Wink - because it's colonies 'succeeded').

Knowledge is God is Knowledge.
God is not 'Life'.
Knowledge is like the Moon (Sin) - lifeless, but an inspiration to reach by knowledgeable means (like Spacecraft). Each of the x8 Regions will 'touch the moon' in their own way. Religion has, the USA has by 'flight'... I wonder if Australia ever will in its 'own' unique way?  Wink

Life is Gaia, Mother Earth ...the Earth.

So besides throwing boring cliché sledges about my comments. How about offering up something 'better' than what I put forth? No? Didn't think so.
Maybe its because you aren't progressive?
Maybe its because you never read the last chapter of the script yet?  Tongue
Maybe you're just plain ignorant and live in a small town?

Hell.
Maybe we'll see the New Worlds of Nth America (Mormonism?), Sth America and Sahul (Australia) usher in the future Religions that liberates the Middle-East from the backwards bitter past of the Old World Religions that represented Europe, Asia & Africa?? Huh Huh Huh ... Wink in the form of Judaism, Christianity & Mohommedism.

And you think the CIA has secrets  Wink
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin




HUH???????


Not my fault you guys are still locked in the past dribbling over what is already 'known'.

Hurry up, catch up - there is a lot still 'to know'.  Wink



I don't want to know shixt that makes me dumber.
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Reply #86 - Nov 5th, 2018 at 11:57pm
 
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:10am:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:00am:
Ajax wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 8:53am:
What about God and the holy trinity..?

Father, Son & Holy Ghost....!

Three distinct beings that are one by nature.




What about them?

Are they real?


We'll find out when we pass from this life.

I believe in God because nothing else can explain the miracle of life and our existence in the universe.


Science: I don't know, lets find out.

Religion: I don't know therfore god.
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Reply #87 - Nov 6th, 2018 at 12:00am
 
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God can't exist because of Eric The God-Eating Magic Penguin. Since Eric is God-Eating by definition, he has no choice but to eat God. So, if God exists, He automatically ceases to exist as a result of being eaten. Unless you can prove that Eric doesn't exist, God doesn't exist. Even if you can prove that Eric doesn't exist, that same proof will also be applicable to God. There are only two possibilities - either you can prove that Eric doesn't exist or you can't - in both cases it logically follows that God doesn't exist.
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Reply #88 - Nov 6th, 2018 at 9:18pm
 
Poor Term Dog.
Doesn't know 'why' the Germans did what they did to the Jews specifically.
Doesn't know 'why' Britain is stepping back (Brexiting) and leaving France out in front to face the Moslems.
Doesn't know 'why' everything is happening the way it is.
Doesn't know 'why' Religion started in the Middle-East, but is ruled by Military circumstances.
Doesn't know 'why' North America is empowered by Politics, but South America isn't.

All that Term Dog (and others mind you) know is that "Y is a crooked letter and Z is no better."  Roll Eyes
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Re: The Jewish God
Reply #89 - Nov 6th, 2018 at 9:49pm
 
Jasin wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 9:18pm:
Poor Term Dog.
Doesn't know 'why' the Germans did what they did to the Jews specifically.
Doesn't know 'why' Britain is stepping back (Brexiting) and leaving France out in front to face the Moslems.
Doesn't know 'why' everything is happening the way it is.
Doesn't know 'why' Religion started in the Middle-East, but is ruled by Military circumstances.
Doesn't know 'why' North America is empowered by Politics, but South America isn't.

All that Term Dog (and others mind you) know is that "Y is a crooked letter and Z is no better."  Roll Eyes



Drugs are bad.
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Reply #90 - Nov 7th, 2018 at 8:06am
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 9:49pm:
Jasin wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 9:18pm:
Poor Term Dog.
Doesn't know 'why' the Germans did what they did to the Jews specifically.
Doesn't know 'why' Britain is stepping back (Brexiting) and leaving France out in front to face the Moslems.
Doesn't know 'why' everything is happening the way it is.
Doesn't know 'why' Religion started in the Middle-East, but is ruled by Military circumstances.
Doesn't know 'why' North America is empowered by Politics, but South America isn't.

All that Term Dog (and others mind you) know is that "Y is a crooked letter and Z is no better."  Roll Eyes



Drugs are bad.


That's a boring cliché comeback for lack of providing a better argument, theory, etc - if ever there was one  Roll Eyes

Put up, or shut up - loser. Grin
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