Yadda wrote on Oct 27^th, 2018 at 3:10pm:


I think this answers your question Yadda

Bobby. wrote on Oct 27^th, 2018 at 5:10pm:



If you want to believe that bobby [that ISLAM is an Abrahamic religion], that is OK.

I'm happy for you to agree that.



But there are other narratives out there.

Google;
"islam is not" "Abrahamic religion"


The best advice i can offer to you, is this;

Do your own research [i.e. go, wherever your spirit leads you], and then believe, whatever you believe.       








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"ISLAM ES PAZ"


IMAGE.....



Everyone knows that true ISLAM, is a religion of peace.

/sarc off

Term Dog wrote on Oct 28^th, 2018 at 10:09pm:


I didnt know that. Well they are all as valid or invalid as any other religion

Spot

That's not even close to being scripturally correct.

Is there a single Christian that has read the Bible?

And God said, let us make man in our image. Genesis 1:26
And the Lord God said, Behold, then man is become as one of us, to know good and evil. Genesis 3:22

Let us go down, and there confound their language. Genesis 11:7

The Old Testament God is a "god of gods" who is worshiped by the other gods..
For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords. Deuteronomy 10:17
Worship him, all ye gods. Psalm 97:7

O give thanks unto the God of gods. Psalm 136:2

No other god is like him.
Among the gods there is none like unto thee, O Lord. Psalm 86:8
He is better than the other gods.
Who is like unto thee, O LORD, among the gods? Exodus 15:11
Now I know that the LORD is greater than all gods. Exodus 18:11

Thou shalt have no other gods before me. ... Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them. Exodus 20:3-5

What God is there in heaven or in earth, that can do according to thy works? Deuteronomy 3:24

Our Lord is above all gods. Psalm 135:5

The other gods will die someday.
The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens. Jeremiah 10:11
The Hebrew God judges the other gods.
And against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment. Exodus 12:12
Upon their gods also the LORD executed judgments. Numbers 33:4

God standeth in the congregation of the mighty, he judgeth among the gods. Psalm 82:1

And will punish them.
I will punish the multitude of No, and Pharaoh, and Egypt, with their gods. Jeremiah 46:25
The Lord will be terrible to them: for he will famish all the gods of the earth. Zephaniah 2:11

He is a jealous God (whose name is Jealous). So he forbids us to "go after" or worship any of his competitors.
For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God. Exodus 34:14
Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you; (For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you.) Deuteronomy 6:14-15

Thou shalt not ... go after other gods to serve them. Deuteronomy 28:14

If you give God glory, he'll go easy on you and all your other gods.
Ye shall give glory unto the God of Israel: peradventure he will lighten his hand from off you, and from off your gods. 1 Samuel 6:5
And go not after other gods to serve them, and to worship them, and provoke me not to anger with the works of your hands; and I will do you no hurt. Jeremiah 25:6

But you must fear God more than all the other gods.
The Lord ... is to be feared above all gods. 1 Chronicles 16:25
For the Lord ... is to be feared above all gods. Psalm 96:4

Don't sacrfifice to any of the other gods. (Or God will kill you.)
He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed. Exodus 22:20
Don't put any of the other gods before him.
Thou shalt have none other gods before me. Deuteronomy 5:7
Don't make a covenant with them.
Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods. Exodus 23:32
Don't burn incense to them.
I will utter my judgments against them ... who have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods. Jeremiah 1:16
Or even mention their names.
Make no mention of the name of other gods, neither let it be heard out of thy mouth. Exodus 23:13
Put away your father's gods.
Fear the Lord ... and put away the gods which your fathers served. Joshua 24:14
And stay away from the god named Chemosh.
Wilt not thou possess that which Chemosh thy god giveth thee to possess? Judges 11:24
But don't revile the other gods.
Thou shalt not revile the gods. Exodus 22:28
Other people served other gods (as did Abraham's father Terah).
Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods. Joshua 24:2
And a witch once saw gods going up to heaven.
And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth. 1 Samuel 28:13
Always remember that people are gods too. (Jesus used this when he was accused of making himself a god.)
I have said, Ye are gods. Psalm 82:6
The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? John 10:33-34

And the three gods in heaven are really only one god. (Don't worry about this one too much. It's a mystery.)
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1 John 5:7

Sorry Yadda.
But they are all right.

I suggest you read the book "The 10,000 faces of God" by the exceptional Mythologist Joseph Campbell (There is even a superb TV interview series called "The Power of Myth" just before he passed away. He studied it 'all' - like how the 'virgin birth' is a symbolic aspect of many cultures right around the world, even before Judaism was created ...by Man.

Judaism, Christianity & Mohommedism are all the same with subtle differences... no different to having the Liberals, Nationals, Labour, Democrats - they are all 'Politics'.

Judaism & Christianity are like two books joined together, but the 'story' is different. Christianity & Mohommedism are two separated books, but the 'story' is the same.

The main gist though, is that Christianity needs to be 'crucified' to unite both Islam & Israel as 'Istari' (IstarI = the 'star' between the two Pillars of God I & I ).
Germany has already broken its cross (Swaztika) and renounced Religion back to the Middle-East via the Jews.
Soon France will have to give up the 'holy ghost' back to the Moslems. Then it will be Italy's turn and finally Britain's.
Thus the 'four points' of the Christian Cross will be no more.

So, if you want to understand 'Christianity' fully ...and not just one paragraph. Then you must try to understand it 'all' and Christianity's place in the Big Picture.

God, Allah, Yalweh, Elohim, Jehovah, etc - they are all just 'faces' of the same.

But in its earliest form, long before Religion - It was those who worshipped the Sun, the Moon (Sin) or Earth (Life).
Each one had its position and role to play on the 'team'.

In a factory, there are those who just know how to run the machine they are at. While there others who understand how the whole factory works. 

 

Jasin wrote on Oct 31^st, 2018 at 7:28am:




Thank you JaSin, for explaining your understanding of the universe to us.

Frank wrote on Oct 31^st, 2018 at 5:58pm:


But given that the religion a person follows is overwhelmingly decided by the family they are born into and given that there are 4,200 religions in the world "heart and soul" would seem to have very little to do with it.