The Tesla is really piss poor on the racetrack, it goes good on the drag strip yet doesn't cut it when cornering and braking are included.

At the Nürburgring the Tesla is slower than a Ford Focus and Volkswagon Golf.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nürburgring_Nordschleife_lap_times

At 9 min 08 seconds it's pathetic

Watch the Mini pass it and leave it for dead at 7min 10 sec

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2018 at 7:57pm:

Yup as a Large Luxury 4 door car and the first electric one.... it's not surprising it not a race car or that many ppl would buy 1 for that reason...…
It is awesome that its  the fastest production car for 0-100km's but no one has ever considered it a race car...…
Unfortunately I looks like no one has tested one for 3 years as the last one I could find was mid 2015, Tesla keep improving their cars as they make them and it looks like their new S's have a lot less problems with over heating... still they r a heavy big car and I don't think anyone expects them to be a race car.
At Laguna Seca a race track in California they do a lot of  testing

The 2019 Jaguar XE Project 8 holds the current four-door production sedan lap record with 1:37.54 set by driver Randy Probst. [12]
During qualifying for the 2011 FIM e-Power International Championship/TTXGP World Series race, Steve Rapp rode the Mission Motors Mission R to the electric vehicle record with 1:31.376. [13]
On 17th September 2018 Tesla Roadstar development driver Emile Bouret [14]shared in Twitter & Instagram [15]that he with the assistance of Development Engineering Team of Tesla, Inc. in a stock Tesla Model S P100D completed the lap in 1:43:06 [16] officially breaking the overall Fastest Production EV lap record & also an unofficial recent lap time of 1:46.8 by amateur driver Cameron Rogers in a Tesla Model 3 on September 14 2018. Currently Emile Bouret officially holds the Fastest Production EV lap record is this circuit. Cameron Rogers narrowly beat out the previous lap record of 1:48.18 set by professional driver Randy Probst in a Jaguar I-PACE.[17]
On that track the S is 10sec slower than the fastest ever production Vehicle,
Tesla have released a Performance version of the Tesla3 and it has a different motor and batteries and a lighter car, it doesn't have the overheating problems of the S and hopefully when they get to Germany someone will do a lap at Nur

Ohh and as far as electric cars go
If u want the Fastest car on that track your going to have to get a electric vehicle to do the job
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/video-watch-nio-ep9s-645-ring-record

it’s a new overall production car record. And it’s really bloody fast.
Send your cards of congratulation to Chinese electric car maker NIO, whose EP9 supercar stopped the clock at 6min 45.9sec, as evidenced by this wobbly but nonetheless impressive on-board video.
It’s not only the fastest electric car around the Nordschleife, either, because that time is over six seconds quicker than the Lamborghini Huracan Performante and over two seconds quicker than the Radical SR8 LM. Those are the two production cars that have previously claimed overall honours at the ‘Ring

juliar wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2018 at 6:58am:

Great opinion p iece there Jules....obviously he loves his bmw,s and good for him... no real facts in the piece though 

Toi be frank, Nordschliefe lap times are completely meaningless.

Ohh has something beat the  Neo at 6.46 sec  

juliar wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2018 at 7:28pm:

15 minute super-chargers were just introduced into Australia today!

..so why don't you go s*&^ an exhaust pipe c*&^%head  ?!?!?

Is Futility in search of Failure really in a Nursing Home ?

Seems a dumb level lower than the village idiot trolls with the shrunken heads.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 25^th, 2018 at 7:54pm:


and this is where an electric car wins out because it is not blowing money out of its tail pipe in stop start traffic

juliar wrote on Oct 25^th, 2018 at 11:00pm:


In what way f.ckhead ? Please explain for once instead of parroting the floorboard bullshit all of the time

Njuliar wrote on Oct 26^th, 2018 at 6:20am:

Haha 2 runs and battery is flat....... flat out wrong and the Porsche is still 3-4 years away and will be for awhile.
If your going to show a article at least get ones that don’t flat out lie and opinions 

DonDeeHippy wrote on Oct 26^th, 2018 at 6:54am:


Fossil fool car manufacturers have got to say they are working on EV's to try and steal away prospective sales from Tesla even though they will probably never ever sell an EV !!

And how cheap will a Porsche EV be anyway LOL

juliar wrote on Oct 26^th, 2018 at 10:47am:


Who drives like that anyway ??? Stupid moreon whinging about nothing as usual

Anything else wrong with it ? Maybe the cigarette lighter is not in the right place for your short arms. LOL

Next time when you need to travel 200 km's try walking that distance instead of driving a Tesla then you'll appreciate what it does.

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 24^th, 2018 at 9:25am:



They don't get free supercharger for life.


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I pay $0.26 KWh why are Tesla charging $0.35 KWh , it sounds like a supercharger costs more than charging at home in peak rates let alone off peak.

Tesla owners cooks his brakes after a couple of laps on the racetrack.

I see it has Brembo brakes, any other car with Brembo brakes can handle a bit of track work.

Why does he have to put it on a tow truck and send it back to tesla for new brake pads and machining the discs any mechanic should be able to do that, is it because tesla don't allow anyone else to work on their shitboxes?

Baron, congratulations!

You have effortlessly slaughtered the village idiot troll VIRI which is not hard with their obvious low intelligence, poor education, and total inability to understand even the rudiments of any technical stuff.

I don't know why they continue to embarrass themselves by continuing to show their total ignorance of anything technical in a Technical Section.

They would be more at home in the extremist ranting section.

Now how about the useless Tesla 3 brakes ?

Perhaps the troll VIRI might get into one of these unsafe TESLA piles of junk.




Check Out These Toasted Tesla Model 3 Brakes
BY DOMENICK YONEY MAR 14 2018


Worn out Tesla Model 3 brake pads.  Want to CRASH ? Then get into an unsafe TESLA 3 pile of junk!!!

VIDEO: Cooked Tesla 3 "brakes".

Them’s the brakes
The Tesla Model 3 was not built to set lap records straight out of the box. So, what happens if you run it at high speeds for multiple orbits of a course like, say, Laguna Seca? Well, as we learned last week from owner Matt Crowley who did just that, on your fourth go-round you can find yourself arriving at turn two at over 100 miles an hour and learn that your brakes have given up the ghost.  Not ideal.

While the brake pads Tesla equips the Model 3 with may be just fine for regular street use, and will likely last many tens of thousands of miles — regenerative braking bears the brunt of the slow-down stress under typical conditions — on a track the story is far different. A little math tells us the pads were gone after negotiating 45 turns in just nine miles.

What do worn out brakes on a Model 3 look like? We’re glad you asked. Mr. Crowley posted the above video to show us the damage down before he sends it off to the Service Center for new pads all around, and, quite possibly, front rotors.

In the process, we also get a step-by-step guide to removing the pads, plus a look at the new progressive coil springs from Unplugged Performancethat Crowley had fitted, which lower the car by 1.5 inches.

To avoid the situation like this, we suggest looking into a higher spec brake pad, as well as a high-temp brake fluid. Braided steel brake lines wouldn’t be a bad idea either, just to be on the safe side.

https://insideevs.com/check-out-toasted-tesla-model-3-brakes/

On manual cars you drop her down a cog to aid braking.

Like the Tesla pile of junk the village idiot troll VIRUS with the obvious low intelligence and poor education crawls out from under the floor boards and conks out. Which is the bigger pile of junk - the Tesla or the troll VIRUS ?

Why this weird troll VIRUS insists on displaying such gross ignorance of the practical way cars operate remains a mystery.


The Weird Way the Electric Car Industry (Particularly Tesla) Is Trying to Commit Suicide
BY ROB ENDERLE ON      AUGUST 17, 2018 AUTOMOBILES, TESLA P85D

I’m a big fan of electric cars because I truly believe we need to massively reduce green house gases both to reduce global warming (the West Coast is mostly on fire at the moment) and the health risks associated with carbon emissions. But in watching the electric car efforts like Tesla come to market, I’m starting to wonder if those making the cars really want their efforts to fail because so much of what I’m seeing just seems…well, stupid.

Let me walk you through some of the evidence.

Racing
Car racing was at the heart of the ramp to gas powered cars. In the beginning, car companies participated in races to showcase and drive car advancements and—given the number of cars on the road—this was pretty damned successful. Now electric cars suck at road racing, if you take a Tesla, the most performance-oriented electric car in the market in volume, and put it on a road course it will overheat and go into limp home mode in around 15 miles. In addition, road racing takes a ton of energy and you can’t charge these things very quickly yet, so electrics are impractical on the track. However, on drag strips they are damn near unbeatable. You can regularly see YouTube videos of folks driving to the drag strip in a Tesla and smoking pretty much everything they run against from purpose built drag cars, to the fastest things the car companies put on the road.

So what race did the electric companies sponsor first? NHRA (National Hot Rod Association)? Nope. They went the Formula 1 route with Formula E where folks have to swap cars and—if their battery goes dead—the driver has to push the car, in front of all of the fans, back to the pit area by himself. One of the biggest fears an electric car driver has is running out of juice and instead of this race showcasing the car’s amazing quarter mile (or even more amazing eighth mile) performance, the race they funded constantly reminds folks that a dead battery is a catastrophe (it isn’t like you can get a can of electricity to get to a power station). By the way there is a Tesla track series in the works but it is having a ton of problems with the fricken battery. Why showcase the car’s shortcomings like this? To be fair, an NHRA partnership is now coming, but it should have been first.

Charging
As mentioned above, folks are scared to death of running out of battery power because there is no equivalent to a gas can you can carry to power up a dead electric vehicle. Generally, you have to trailer the car back to someplace and then wait hours for the car to recharge. When gas cars came to market there were huge networks of gas stations that popped up to support them. They didn’t just work with Ford cars or any other brand, the gas worked in any car because you needed to get to a critical mass of stations. So, what did Tesla do? They went proprietary and built a network of power stations that only work with Tesla’s instead of building a network of stations that work for any electric car. Rather than being a profit center—and gas stations make a ton of money—they became a cost center for Tesla because they gave the power away for free (at least until recently). When creating a market, you build for everyone because you all need critical mass. Then you can worry about competition once critical mass exists. Tesla went exactly backwards and built a power charging moat.

The net result is that Tesla’s take forever to charge on a non-Tesla power station, non-Tesla electric cars can’t charge (and help fund) Tesla power stations at all, and getting to critical mass of charging stations was delayed by years because there is no cumulative effect. Currently the best chance we have is because VW was forced to install a bunch of stations to make up for falsifying their diesel engine smog scores. And that was pure luck—not by design.

Letting Gas Catch Up
It’s been a bit surprising that gas hasn’t fought back harder. I really thought that companies like GM and Ford, let alone the gas companies like Exxon and Shell, would step up and fight electrics harder. But, given enough time that was eventually going to happen. And with the slow ramp to electrics there are a massive number of internal combustion engine improvements coming to market.

Read the depressing rest of the electric car fiasco here

https://techspective.net/2018/08/17/the-weird-way-the-electric-car-industry-part...

The deprived technically ignorant troll with the shrunken head appears from under the floor boards.
How can one "person" know so little ? Why this weird troll VIRUS insists on displaying such gross ignorance of the practical way cars operate remains a mystery.

The village idiot troll VIRUS is neurotically annoyed at being repeatedly shown to be nothing more than a dumb dill.

The penalty of mental inadequacy and poor education and low IQ. Should not have mucked up so much while at school.

The village idiot troll VIRUS has a neurotic fixation on me, her HERO, because I aggravate her neurotic inferiority complex by repeatedly showing her to be nothing more than a dumb dill.

The penalty of mental inadequacy and poor education and low IQ. Should not have mucked up so much while at school.

Is FUTILITY in search of FAILURE really in a Nursing Home ?

The village idiot troll VIRUS has a neurotic fixation on me, her HERO, because I aggravate her neurotic inferiority complex by repeatedly showing her to be nothing more than a dumb dill.

it is fun psycho analyzing the neurotic inferiority complex of the rather boring cranky troll VIRUS.

Such is the penalty of mental inadequacy and poor education and low IQ. Should not have wagged school so much.



Tesla S pile of junk cooks. Reminds you how the troll's brain seizes up when overheated.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Oct 29^th, 2018 at 6:41am:


Brake pads wearing out aren't warranty jobs.

The dumb troll hasn't got a clue.

juliar wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2018 at 7:53am:

I know Jules but we better let’s Barron reply before we make that judgement

juliar wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2018 at 3:55pm:

R u dreaming of baron on all 4s looking up at u drooling 

juliar wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2018 at 5:23pm:

The psychologist would have more of a field day working on the guy that spends 3 days making up a rhyming sentence then feels the need to repeat it for the next 2 months 

juliar wrote on Oct 28^th, 2018 at 6:17pm:

Ahh it was Jules that posted this no u baron... ok so the took the brake pads off to see the damage put it on YouTube so the world know he took the brake pads off then put them back on and sent it to a Tesla service center to replace them.... did u notice he also put in a suspension kit that lowered the car, I’m sure Tesla didn’t do that and u can buy after market brake pads for the car with instructions on how to put them in yourself....... no where is Tesla saying your not allowed to do it yourself.....he chose to get Tesla to replace them , he didn’t have to , a big diferance.

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juliar wrote on Nov 4^th, 2018 at 5:09pm:

I f*%^$ked juliar until it loved me,. lol 

The utterly dumb troll comes back to kneel before me her HERO.

Gosh my devoted admirer the Village Idiot troll with the "mind" of a neurotic child in an adult body crawls out from under the floor boards to kneel before me.

Gosh my devoted admirer the Village Idiot troll with the "mind" of a neurotic child in an adult body crawls out from under the floor boards to kneel before me her HERO.

God these creeps must be sick in the head to carry on like they do.

Gosh my devoted admirer the Village Idiot troll with the "mind" of a neurotic child in an adult body crawls out from under the floor boards to kneel before me her HERO.

God these creeps must be sick in the head to carry on like they do.

Gosh the troll imbecile with the shrunken head is getting angry at being repeatedly shown to be just a waste of space imbecile that is not worth feeding.

Gosh the troll imbecile with the shrunken head is going ga ga. What a useless waste of space that is not worth feeding.

Gee the silly old troll is a glutton for punishment. Then most trolls have a masochistic streak. This specimen is certainly a sad case. Classic case of a child's mind in an adult body. Wonder why the mind never developed beyond that of a child ? Genetic malformation or something ?

juliar wrote on Nov 7^th, 2018 at 3:57pm:


a few new words in that last post socko. did your mum help you to write it ? LOL

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesla/model-3/2019/tesla-model-3-performance-tra...
Wow, the Model 3 is fast on the track and its now the fastest Sedan in the world at  the race track they r testing at.
Its all just only been released and ill be intesting to see how it goes at other tracks.

The most amazing thing is they have one of the best engineers in the world testing the car and they made a new mode for the car called Track Mode.
They been playing around with how the car handles and now a few weeks later through over the air updates all Tesla 3 performance vehicles can access this mode.... That's pretty impressive.

Musk has said the Tesla S should be quicker on the track than the 3 , so will be interesting if they can pull that off, or will the smaller car be the fastest..... Hmm fastest production car for 0-100km and now the fastest production car on the track,,, tesla r doing it right  

Of coerce the standard Model 3 will burn up brake pads pretty fast just like any normal car on a track (for Baron). Try taking a normal car up to 200km's per hour and slamming the brake on till it stops and do that about 40 times and that what its like to do a few laps at most race courses……. I've had the dreaded brake smell from a new Falcon just going down a range too fast at about 100km's...… was probably about 10 corners from  100kms down to about 40km's...I hate to think how bad the brakes would be if id gone up too 200km's a hour.....

DonDeeHippy wrote on Nov 16^th, 2018 at 10:31pm:


What a fluff article did Tesla write it like they claimed they got 5.5 stars for crash safety when only 5 stars are awarded?

It's not the fastest production car on the track it's only 1.2 seconds quicker than a poxy Alfa, no manufacturer tests at Willow Springs.

They put Brembo track pads in it, they're hard pads that need to be hot to work they're no good for street use with cold brakes.


My 40 year old SS Torana stops quicker than any Tesla and the brakes can handle a day at the track without wear, did you ever see Brock changing brake pads in any of his Toranas at Bathurst? My SS is now worth over $100K it has doubled in value in the last 10 years.


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The Tesla model 3 getting blown off by 911 and even Chev Camaro, the BMW filming it looked like he could have passed it and left it for dead.

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 17^th, 2018 at 10:55pm:


The only stupidity in this thread comes from the idiots who praise Tesla despite not owning one or even capable of affording one.

Just a reminder of the bullshit you dickhead mate posted-

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Does this expose the lies and bullshit with Tesla from that article?

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Same source yet one article claims the Tesla is the worlds quickest sports sedan at that track yet it is slower than a Chev Camaro which the exact same source says is the 6th quickest car around that track.


Elon claimed his tesla got 5.5 star rating in a crash test despite the fact the maximum rating is 5. Then we have another claim by tesla supporters that the model 3 is the quickest sports sedan despite evidence from the same source saying a Chev Camaro is quicker.


The gullible get sucked in with the lies and bullshit from tesla

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 17^th, 2018 at 11:23pm:

Ok you say Tesla gave the 5.5 rating as a company...

Now your trying to say the reporter for this article is Tesla...….. I think your a bit confused, the reported went out to the race track and reported what he say the Car doing.... If u cant see the diferance I feel sorry for u.


I know when a argument isn't going well the need to insult, its just a shame u need to stoop so low.

Basically a news reporter went to a race track , went in the car and reported what he saw and stated that the r was the quickest production car on the track...….

Anything else your trying to add the the article has nothing to do with what I posted.....
Maybe if u comprehend and read what your going to reply too first we wouldn't have these troubles 

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 9:39am:

Ohh baron u contradict yourself in your own post .... how many doors on a Sports Sedan ? (hint... Maybe 4)
this is from the article ....
Until the new BMW M3 shows up, that perches the Model 3 atop the podium as the world's quickest sport sedan—at least around this track.

As for the Camaro i really couldn't be bothered to see how it matters how fast it is, as its a 2 door and nothing to do with a sports sedan, maybe u should complain to the website and point out they say that a Camaro is faster than a Ferrari and give them a good telling off about it.

So these Tesla Idiots as u put it, will believe anything like its a fast Sports

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 17^th, 2018 at 11:23pm:


Yeh and Ford and Holden did really well in the end with their clunkers running around Bathurst taking all of those sharp corners didn't they. So much demand for those everyday clunkers that can handle sharp corners wasn't there ? LOL

And this must be more lies about Tesla LOL

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 18^th, 2018 at 10:38am:

Ahh so it was my comment that was wrong and not the article, well I withdraw that about Tesla.
  Tesla has the Fastest Production SEDAN in the world on the track, i'm stil right about being the fastest production car on the 0-100 km's ... I'm glad you pointed out my error. Now do u want to address all your errors or do u want to just ignore and make new assumptions and tell me how I'm changing the goal posts (like comparing sedan to sportscars )
Ohh and show where ive said a lie.... If im wrong with a assumption and its pointed out ill man up and admit im wrong...…. SO I believe something to be true comment on it , if im wrong im happy to admit it...
How about u Baron wanna go back through your posts and address where u have made a wrong comment and how u have accepted your wrong ?

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesla/model-3/2019/tesla-model-3-performance-tra...

now whats really amazing is the control the car has overs its moving parts and by just playing with the software they can make the car race worthy, each brakes and power to wheels can be controlled, I'm with baron and that a lectric car with a big heavy battery shouldn't be good on a track and yet because of the control of its systems it's becoming a good car on the track

Angling into the corner under braking, Track mode seems to illogically instruct the rear motor to briefly overpower the rear, stepping the tail out a few degrees to target what the math model thinks is the maximum available lateral acceleration given the suspension's compression. Then it tailors that prediction by analyzing the tires' actual slip rates. Post-apex, the front motor takes the lead role, delivering just enough power to cause a muted understeer, pulling the car out of the corner as the rear motor ladles in what's needed to maintain that attitude.
This simple ballet is kept carefully balanced from entry to exit by the lightning responsiveness of the electric motors and brake pads that individually and automatically kiss their discs to laterally redirect power across the open differentials. Only a from-scratch, fully integrated solution can keep all these balls in the air. (It makes me really wonder what Porsche is doing to make the Taycan handle around the Nurburgring). According to Tesla's calculations, Track mode lets the car apex earlier and begin accelerating sooner.
The engineer explains that to provide more driver confidence, the software does not tiptoe quite so close to the edge. As part of his consulting work, Randy notes: "One thing we did was reduce the regenerative braking at lower speed. There's naturally less of it at higher speeds because the battery can't absorb that rate of power. But the last time we were out here, the car kept slowing down a lot when I'd lift off the accelerator; they showed me the data, and it's about 0.3 g of deceleration. The trouble is that I'm a trail-braker, and it's adding that strong brake force while I'm turning. Now it's less, more like a normal car's engine braking. This is a huge step forward.
There's nothing at all new about a racing driver developing the chassis of a high-performance car; adjusting anti-roll bars or tuning shocks at a racetrack are part of the checklist. But on October 5, at Streets of Willow, we opened the door to a new place. Computer code and human instincts confronted each other. The millions of lines of Tesla's Track mode software were amended instantaneously by a guy with decades of experience, someone who may have danced more different cars around racetracks than anyone on earth.

I remember growing up all I heard about was the phase 3 falcon and how Australia made the fastest Sedan in the world, now I hear about it being a Tesla and now it means nothing 

Actual evidence of FACT compared to the Village Idiot Trolls revolting habit of ignoring FACTS and just tipping out the rotting smelly decaying contents of their child's minds which Nature forgot to develop. Typical grossly ignorant pseudo Greeny types with shrunken heads full of lying Greeny rubbish.


Somewhat mangled Tesla 3 that couldn't stop with its lousy brakes. Tired and feel like crashing ? Climb into an unsafe crashy Tesla!!!



This Video Reminds Us That the Tesla Model S Is an Awful Track Car. Car and Driver's P85D Model S could barely get through one lap at Virginia International Raceway.
BY AARON BROWNSEPTEMBER 15, 2016

Tesla Model S P85D at Lightning Lap 2016

Teslas are now capable of quietly accelerating to 60 mph from standstill in 2.5 seconds, but apparently the electric car manufacturer hasn't yet figured out how to make its cars go around a racetrack without them falling on their sad, grille-less faces. When attempting a hot lap with their loaner Model S, Car and Driver found multiple faults with its performance sedan.

We've seen before just how incapable Teslas are at being pushed to their limits at racetracks, but the issues that C+D lists is comprehensive. In just one lap at Virginia International Raceway, with the magazine's technical editor, K.C. Colwell, behind the wheel, the Model S P85D goes into reduced power mode in the middle of the single hot lap, displays an air suspension fault, and has a heart-stopping change of pressure in the brake pedal. Those things are not exactly ideal when you're tracking your car.

In the Tesla community, it is common knowledge that the Model S has trouble hustling around race tracks. As Teslarati notes, the electric sedans have a tendency to overheat in one lap or less at most courses. One of the most popular examples of a Model S failing on-track surfaced two years ago, when racer Robb Holland took to the Nürburgring Nordscheleife in one of the electric sedans and was unsurprisingly unable to get around the full 12.9 miles of mountainous German road-hell using the car's full-power.

So, the Model S is not a Chevrolet Corvette Z06. But, to be fair, all current EVs are by nature pretty much terrible for extended track use—and that includes top-of-the-game Formula E race cars. At this stage of battery development, pushing an EV to racetrack levels of performance is simply too big a drain on range, to say nothing of the myriad other problems it can cause. So while you can't really fault the carmaker for the P85D's less-than-stellar performance, you do now know a way to shut up a smug Tesla owner: invite him to the track. One lap is all it should take.

http://www.thedrive.com/news/5207/this-video-reminds-us-that-the-tesla-model-s-i...

Jules just doesn't get it, 2 year old articles and its a well know fact the Tesla S are not good on the track, we r talking about the Tesla 3 performance with Track mode, ohh and the S has slowly been getting better on the track too. 
No one is disagreeing with the jules the dotty old uncle....
I wonder why when he posts a picture of a wreaked Tesla he doesn't also condemn all the the other cars in the yard for being useless as well 

YEs Yes we all know the Tesla S isn't that good on a race course… overheat etc etc....

juliar wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

juliar wrote on Nov 19^th, 2018 at 10:30am:



They're simple, the global warming religion fries their brains they believe any bullshit praising Tesla.


Dondehippy tried to claim a Tesla is quicker than a Ferrari 458 and a Porsche Cayman GT4, LMAO at these assclowns


From your link-

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The Tesla Model S goes around the racetrack with the same lap time as a Jeep Grand Cherokee.

Like the trolls' brains seize up from overheating by Global Warming the unsafe Teslas seize up from Global Cooling.

Just like the trolls lose brain power the Tesla loses battery power.



33% range loss in cold winter conditions
Discussion in 'Model 3' started by ElecFan, Jan 11, 2018.

Here's a video of a model 3LR in 3-5F conditions getting 200 miles of range with pre-heated battery (~370 Wh/mi) or about ~33% loss on EPA of 310 miles.

https://youtu.be/iwi1u2xDF9k