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Reply #1 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 8:29pm
 
Indonesian policewomen measured through 'purity and beauty', subjected to virginity testing


Women looking to become police officers in Indonesia are reported to have to undergo an invasive "two-finger" virginity test and be "pretty" as a part of the recruitment process.

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Virginity testing female police recruits continues despite pressure to end the practice
Policewomen must also be "pretty" and subjected to a list of physical standards
The policewomen are often deployed in high visibility roles such as public relations
Despite the tests not being recorded or on the books as an official requirement, it is still conducted throughout the country under the guise of a "morality or physical examination".

Andreas Harsono from the Human Rights Watch said Indonesian police believe that society will not accept a female police officer who has an active sex life or used to be a sex worker.

"The logic is that they only want good girls to be police officers," he said.

The test is conducted by inserting two fingers into the vagina to see if the woman's hymen is still intact — a method which has long been criticised as invasive while also not being able to accurately determine a woman's virginity either.

Indonesian woman Zakia — whose last name is not included to protect her identity — told Human Rights Watch in a complaint obtained by the ABC that she had failed her test when she applied to become a police officer earlier this year.

Zakia claimed the virginity test she was subjected to was not conducted by a medical doctor.

"They didn't just insert their fingers into my vagina, but also into my anus. They kept probing … it was extremely painful," she said.

"Every time I remember what happened, I cry … I feel like I don't want to live anymore."

Zakia was a martial arts athlete who said that over the years she has had to do many splits and other exercises which may have ripped her hymen.

"Once, I fell and my vagina hit a block of wood, but I don't know whether my hymen broke," she said.

"My mother told me not to worry about it … but I told [the police officers interviewing me] that I remember feeling great pain in my vagina due to the fall — after that, the interview was over," she said.

Zakia said she was intimidated by the officers to "come clean" and insisted she was a virgin — she did not get accepted to the second round of the selection process.

'We consider these cases of sexual violence'


Virginity testing is no longer officially allowed in Indonesia following international pressure from human rights groups over the years, but a study published this year by Sharyn Graham Davies from the Auckland University of Technology found vaginal and hymen examinations to still be a key part of police recruitment.

Anisha, a 27-year-old policewoman in Dr Davies' study, said she believes the testings should continue.

"The test shows that we as women can protect ourselves and therefore we are capable of protecting other people," she said.

Mr Harsono claims that the practice is also rife in the Indonesian military, where he said some 70 per cent of the medical staff who conduct the tests are male doctors.
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Reply #2 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 8:36pm
 
How much money does Australia give these gibbering rape monkeys?
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Reply #3 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 9:34pm
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 8:36pm:
How much money does Australia give these gibbering rape monkeys?


Far far too much.

we should stop the aid, stop allowing Australians to go there and spend money and let the whole island of them self implode.
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Reply #4 - Oct 21st, 2018 at 12:03am
 
Aid money goes primarily to the warlords and similar, who then use it to turn their ploughshares into swords to beat upon their people.... and by extension.... to beat upon the nations that provide them aid.

Somalia (as an example) would have been better left to itself... the warlords took the medical aid intended for sick children and used it for themselves and as a lever for power... same with food.... so all that aid ever did was produce a stronger warlord class..... who then expanded the same old problems... the same number died anyway......only the means were sometimes different.....

Let the filth nations fend for themselves.... they don't need our help to kill one another....
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Reply #5 - Oct 21st, 2018 at 6:52am
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 8:27pm:


You're preaching to the converted..... no time for the lying, trigger happy, insecure little hypocrite bastids.
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Reply #6 - Oct 21st, 2018 at 8:23am
 
Valkie wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 9:34pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 8:36pm:
How much money does Australia give these gibbering rape monkeys?


Far far too much.

we should stop the aid, stop allowing Australians to go there and spend money and let the whole island of them self implode.




Yes - end foreign aid immediately to Indonesia -
they are barbaric monkeys.

I don't want one penny of my tax money going to them.
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Reply #7 - Oct 21st, 2018 at 9:50am
 
Valkie wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 9:34pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 8:36pm:
How much money does Australia give these gibbering rape monkeys?


Far far too much.

we should stop the aid, stop allowing Australians to go there and spend money and let the whole island of them self implode.


We do business with Indonesia. We trade with Indonesia. The money we spend in Indonesia from aid is generally for self-interest purposes.
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Reply #8 - Oct 21st, 2018 at 10:22am
 
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Another thread which is devoted to racism and Islamophobia.  I do wish people would grow up and stop posting how much they hate people who they have never met, who cannot do them any harm and who are generally nice, peaceable and law abiding people.  Tsk, tsk, such silliness, such foolishness.  Grow up children.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #9 - Oct 21st, 2018 at 10:51am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 10:22am:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Another thread which is devoted to racism and Islamophobia.  I do wish people would grow up and stop posting how much they hate people who they have never met, who cannot do them any harm and who are generally nice, peaceable and law abiding people.  Tsk, tsk, such silliness, such foolishness.  Grow up children.   Roll Eyes




Gee, Paid Commentary WORKS, by gad !!!

After reading your post, I'm CONVERTED !!!

Lovely people the Indonesians.  I won't hear a word against them after reading your paid comment !!!

Take a BOW !  Collect your PAY !!  They should give you a BONUS !

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Reply #10 - Oct 21st, 2018 at 1:29pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 10:22am:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Another thread which is devoted to racism and Islamophobia.  I do wish people would grow up and stop posting how much they hate people who they have never met, who cannot do them any harm and who are generally nice, peaceable and law abiding people.  Tsk, tsk, such silliness, such foolishness.  Grow up children.   Roll Eyes


You surprised me, Brian. I thought cabbie hands would be the first to support this as its right up his ally  (no pun intended )


"They didn't just insert their fingers into my vagina, but also into my anus. They kept probing … it was extremely painful," she said.
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Reply #11 - Oct 21st, 2018 at 5:22pm
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 1:29pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 10:22am:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Another thread which is devoted to racism and Islamophobia.  I do wish people would grow up and stop posting how much they hate people who they have never met, who cannot do them any harm and who are generally nice, peaceable and law abiding people.  Tsk, tsk, such silliness, such foolishness.  Grow up children.   Roll Eyes


You surprised me, Brian. I thought cabbie hands would be the first to support this as its right up his ally  (no pun intended )


"They didn't just insert their fingers into my vagina, but also into my anus. They kept probing … it was extremely painful," she said.




He has blinkers on mate.
He only believes what is written by the power players.
This is a government issue and brian speaks of the general pop.
The general pop get no benifit from our aid money....yet somehow this clown will support it and tell us we are islamophobes and racist..... Roll Eyes
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Reply #12 - Oct 21st, 2018 at 5:27pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 10:51am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 10:22am:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Another thread which is devoted to racism and Islamophobia.  I do wish people would grow up and stop posting how much they hate people who they have never met, who cannot do them any harm and who are generally nice, peaceable and law abiding people.  Tsk, tsk, such silliness, such foolishness.  Grow up children.   Roll Eyes


Gee, Paid Commentary WORKS, by gad !!!

After reading your post, I'm CONVERTED !!!

Lovely people the Indonesians.  I won't hear a word against them after reading your paid comment !!!

Take a BOW !  Collect your PAY !!  They should give you a BONUS !

thankyouthankyouthankyou


Any time.  Now, if they are paying me, where is my money?  They could at least contribute towards my ISP's bill, don't you think?

In reality, I do this for free.  Islamophobia, like Racism, like all bigotry is based on ignorance and prejudice, nothing more.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes

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Reply #13 - Oct 21st, 2018 at 5:30pm
 
What's your opinion on being fingered as a test to join the Indonesian Police Force Brian?
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Reply #14 - Oct 21st, 2018 at 5:42pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 5:30pm:
What's your opinion on being fingered as a test to join the Indonesian Police Force Brian?


I reckon the story is bullshit.  One woman allegedly makes the claim and an ABC journalist makes column inches out of it.
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