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"Oct 11, 2018 - CHINA is almost ready to unleash its fearsome Hong-20 nuclear bomber. The state-of-the-art war machine can carry 20 tons of nuclear....."

These sucks here would trust them so long as they buy their stinking coal from them

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19^th, 2018 at 9:27pm:


Don't worry -
if the Chinese ever invade they'll be kind to women and children.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19^th, 2018 at 9:35pm:



Are you saying that we can defend ourselves against
a powerful country like China?
I'm curious.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 20^th, 2018 at 12:09pm:


I note no evidence about "how kind" the Chinese Red Army is, Bobby.  How unsurprising.

Quote:


For the PRC to constitute a viable, conventional threat to the Australian continent, it needs to be able to move a force at least four to five divisions in size to Australia's shores.  It cannot even move a single brigade that far at the moment, Bobby.

If they could move that sized force, like any potential attacker, they would need to first negotiate Indonesia and it's territorial waters to reach Australia.  Once they did that, they would then need to choose where to attack on the continent.  They could take the "short route" to Australia and attack the Top End.  They might capture Darwin but would then be faced with an nearly impossible overland march against the SE Corner of the continent where the Government, most of the population lives and where all the industry is located.  If, OTOH, they choose the "long route" and move their forces around the continent and attack the SE corner directly they could capture a large part of the population, a large part of the industrial base and perhaps even the seat of government.   In either case, their forces would be subjected to interdiction from the RAN, the RAAF and the Army.   They would lose substantial quantities of men, materiale, their logistics chain would be interrupted and they might well be defeated.   An invasion is about far more than just landing men on a beach, Bobby.  Far more.  Even if they did get ashore, they would be faced with an uncooperative population and a rudimentary traffic network.   Australia, like Russia could afford to trade space for time.

Then there are our Allies, the United States in particular.  Do you really believe they would stand by and watch the PRC move into Australia?   We are one of their oldest and most trusted allies.  It would not do their own government any good to sit by and watch that happen.   Their population would be annoyed that they wouldn't have (to them) exotic places to surf...   

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20^th, 2018 at 3:43pm:



I agree but I also believe that if the Chinese thought

they could get away with it, they would be here tomorrow.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20^th, 2018 at 6:41pm:



I hope you're right.

If you are we don't need those new subs or the F-35s.

Gordon wrote on Oct 20^th, 2018 at 7:12pm:



Good point - they own just about everything.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20^th, 2018 at 8:04pm:


Brian,
I deal with facts:


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jun/09/refinancing-of-port-of-da...




Landbridge raise further concerns about the wisdom of the
99-year lease struck between the company and the NT government, a national security expert has said.

On Wednesday Fairfax reported Landbridge was seeking a loan of up to $500m from the Chinese government-owned Export-Import bank (Exim), and was putting up the port as security.

Peter Jennings, director of the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, said the use of the port as security for the loan should prompt a new assessment of the lease by the foreign investment review board (Firb), because a default could see the lease end up in the control of the Chinese government.

I find it bizarre that Australia would "sell Darwin port" to the Chinese ... but then again, the Chinese had the spanky new ASIO building in Canberra bugged from the get go ... so what's new? 

Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 21^st, 2018 at 10:16pm:


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, you've been reading Murdoch press, haven't you?

The Chinese were claimed to have stolen the plans to the new ASIO building in Canberra, not long before they finished building it.

There is no evidence that they have been any where near the building.  They more than likely just know the layout really well.   They need a physical presence to "bug" anything.  Anyway, they have their own worries.  Their Embassy was bugged when it was built.  He, he.   

Of course, perhaps ASIO has built the world's biggest "honey trap" for the Chinese intelligence people to get trapped in. 

Then there was:


Updated 23 Jul 2014, 8:07pm


Staff at Australia's domestic spy agency ASIO have still not moved into their new $680 million headquarters in Canberra a year after it was officially opened.

ASIO's 1,800 staff were due to move in in September last year, but may now have to wait until the end of this year, 1.5 years behind schedule.

The five-storey building, named after former prime minister Ben Chifley, who established ASIO in 1949, has been plagued by construction delays and controversies.

Its current cost is 9 per cent above original estimates.

In 2011, a 19-year-old man spent 36 hours at the bottom of a concrete basement at the construction site after illegally entering the premises.

The man scaled a low fence and fell nine metres down a concrete basement while the site was empty on a Saturday night.

When he was found by workers on Monday morning he was taken to Canberra Hospital with severe head injuries.


In February 2012 the building had to be evacuated when about 20 glass panels fell from the main entrance and smashed to the ground.

No-one was injured but the ACT construction union said it was not told about the incident for days.

Later in October the building lost another large plate glass window.

There have been serious issues with fire-proofing the building, as well as with the air conditioning.

In May last year the construction union said close to 100 sub-contractors and suppliers had not been paid for their work at the site.

In a statement the Federal Government said the managing contractor for the project Lend Lease was responsible for dealing with each of the sub-contracts.


PHOTO: Then prime minister Kevin Rudd and attorney-general Mark Dreyfus tour the ASIO headquarters in July 2013. (AAP/Fairfax Media Pool: Andrew Meares)
The ABC's Four Corners program reported last year that the building's blueprints had been stolen in a cyber attack believed to have been mounted by hackers in China.

Then prime minister Kevin Rudd opened the new building in Canberra last July, when it was not yet complete.

"In a world of change, new threats are constantly emerging or evolving - cyber threats, terrorism at home and abroad and people smuggling," Mr Rudd said in his speech at the official opening.

"The technology-dependent world we now live in also presents more challenges and threats. Australia now operates in a world of complex systems, all vulnerable to malicious cyber activity.

"The end of the Cold War did not end the threat of espionage and terrorism. We depend on ASIO to protect our democratic freedoms, to deal with terrorism and to combat espionage."

ASIO director-general David Irvine said at the opening that staff were looking forward to moving in to the building.

"We've been spread over a number of buildings in Canberra and this is an opportunity to consolidate our facilities, our info, technology and our people all in the one place," he said.

Currently the building remains behind temporary barbed wire fences and barricades.

The ASIO building will eventually house the Australian Cyber Security Centre and will be dedicated to countering new threats.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-23/asio-building-in-canberra-remains-empty-a-year-after-opening/5618544