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Oct 18^th, 2018 at 1:42pm

has Liver problems or know of anyone who has dealt with this...

my son in law has just received the news he has a damaged liver.. yes I would believe through drinking...not a hard drinker bu probably would have a drink every day.. give or take....he has of course been warned never to drink alcohol again...he was told had he gone on without checking his blood he would be dead within 6 years...he isnt the type of person to talk about his health.. so I am wondering if there is anything he can do other than stop drinking....which has stopped thus far but with you know what just around the corner... I am not sure how he will deal to be honest.....but either way, can he get over this does anyone know???>...

can he eat everything I believe salt should be watched but that all I have heard....

as I have to cook for a week for the family while they get a complete new kitchen in about 3 weeks....I wouldnt wan t to give him something thats a No No..

I know no booze in the trifle..

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131469 Gender:	Re: has anyone here Reply #1 - Oct 18^th, 2018 at 1:50pm Avoid fatty foods and sugar. And, lose weight. Coffee is said to be good for the liver
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26460 Australia	Re: has anyone here Reply #2 - Oct 18^th, 2018 at 3:02pm I have had liver problems in the past. Not from alcohol. DO NOT DRINK. Fatty foods are not good either. vinegar not good. Dairy not so good. soy, cacao (cocoa okay), and raw kale - BAD. Spot
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26460 Australia	Re: has anyone here Reply #3 - Oct 18^th, 2018 at 3:03pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 1:50pm: Avoid fatty foods and sugar. And, lose weight. Coffee is said to be good for the liver some liver conditions make it impossible to lose weight because your liver isnt processing fats properly (or anything else). Spot
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Reply #4 - Oct 18^th, 2018 at 3:05pm

cods wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 1:42pm:

has Liver problems or know of anyone who has dealt with this...

my son in law has just received the news he has a damaged liver.. yes I would believe through drinking...not a hard drinker bu probably would have a drink every day.. give or take....he has of course been warned never to drink alcohol again...he was told had he gone on without checking his blood he would be dead within 6 years...he isnt the type of person to talk about his health.. so I am wondering if there is anything he can do other than stop drinking....which has stopped thus far but with you know what just around the corner... I am not sure how he will deal to be honest.....but either way, can he get over this does anyone know???>...

can he eat everything I believe salt should be watched but that all I have heard....

as I have to cook for a week for the family while they get a complete new kitchen in about 3 weeks....I wouldnt wan t to give him something thats a No No..

I know no booze in the trifle..

Also it depends how his liver was damaged. If theres "scarring" its not as correctable or if its PBC not gunna recover. Most other liver problems are correctable.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: has anyone here Reply #5 - Oct 18^th, 2018 at 4:35pm thank you weight isnt a problem so thats a help... when you say no fatty food does that mean meat is off the menu.. what about fish...some of that is fatty.... I will ask if the doctor gave a name.. all I know at this time is damaged...and if left he would be dead in 6 years....so I dont think it sounds that good....
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April_Flowers New Member Offline Posts: 40	Re: has anyone here Reply #6 - Oct 18^th, 2018 at 4:53pm Is it a "fatty liver" problem? There is a difference between fatty liver and cirrhosis of the liver ... or cancer of the liver. Google it.
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Reply #7 - Oct 18^th, 2018 at 5:08pm

April_Flowers wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 4:53pm:

Is it a "fatty liver" problem?

There is a difference between fatty liver and cirrhosis of the liver ... or cancer of the liver.

Google it.

thank you and yes I did.....I assume its alcohol damage if it was cancer I think they would have said....he has not had a yellowing of the skin but he has had rashes on his face and the blackest rings under his eyes...which can come and go....at times he has looked 10 years older..but as he doesnt like you to hint he doesnt look well...I say nothing....

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 37678 Gender:	Re: has anyone here Reply #8 - Oct 18^th, 2018 at 5:24pm April_Flowers wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 4:53pm: Is it a "fatty liver" problem? There is a difference between fatty liver and cirrhosis of the liver ... or cancer of the liver. Google it. Yet another sock likely Neferti. Weak as piss.
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Gordon Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20221 Gordon Gender:	Re: has anyone here Reply #9 - Oct 18^th, 2018 at 5:26pm Sounds like he's eaten himself into his predicament. Is he overweight or insulin resistant? He should have a break from food a couple of days a week. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/05/160509085347.htm
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Reply #10 - Oct 18^th, 2018 at 5:27pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 5:24pm:

April_Flowers wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 4:53pm:

Is it a "fatty liver" problem?

There is a difference between fatty liver and cirrhosis of the liver ... or cancer of the liver.

Google it.

Yet another sock likely Neferti. Weak as piss.

Do you really have to drop turds in every single corner of this forum?

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Reply #11 - Oct 18^th, 2018 at 5:28pm

cods wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 5:08pm:

April_Flowers wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 4:53pm:

Is it a "fatty liver" problem?

There is a difference between fatty liver and cirrhosis of the liver ... or cancer of the liver.

Google it.

thank you and yes I did.....I assume its alcohol damage if it was cancer I think they would have said....he has not had a yellowing of the skin but he has had rashes on his face and the blackest rings under his eyes...which can come and go....at times he has looked 10 years older..but as he doesnt like you to hint he doesnt look well...I say nothing....

As far as I am aware, the liver, rejuvenates itself if the person loses weight and cuts down the alcohol.

Has he been checked for Diabetes Type 2? That often goes with "fatty liver".

Lose weight. The heart can't handle the stress of being over weight! Middle Age heart attacks!

I have heard people call some males a "Bear of a Man", referring to their size and, apparent, gentle behaviour. A wild BEAR is not gentle.

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Reply #12 - Oct 18^th, 2018 at 7:51pm

six months ago he was told his white platelets were going down...when he went back for more blood test they were lower still...I would expect they looked at everything... his blood pressure was sky high..he is on meds well half of something a day...

yes I know the liver heals itself....but not in all cases.....

I can only assume this is alcohol damage.. I will ask daughter if they gave it a name....

weight is not an issue......

would white platelets go down if one has diabetes 1 ???......I havent heard of that.

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Reply #14 - Oct 19^th, 2018 at 5:04am

cods wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 4:35pm:

thank you weight isnt a problem so thats a help...

when you say no fatty food does that mean meat is off the menu.. what about fish...some of that is fatty....

I will ask if the doctor gave a name.. all I know at this time is damaged...and if left he would be dead in 6 years....so I dont think it sounds that good....

It depends on what the problem is. A little fat may be okay (and can hardly be avoided) if its not PBC or fatty liver (yes thin people can get fatty liver). Common sense is not not eat the fatty fish but normal fish is okay IMO. As long as he stays off the grog he should be able to tell what he can and cant eat. Stuff thats bad will make him feel bad. Like i said though stay away from those "superfoods" raw kale and cacao. They will really stuff around with your liver if you have a bad one.

It does sound like it can be fixed though so it may be just liver damage from drinking or it might even be one of the hepatitis.

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