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Qld police sued over stuff up
Oct 14th, 2018 at 5:25pm
 
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Sporting shooters want compo after police gun bungle


QUEENSLAND police allowed sporting shooters to buy a $6000 AR15-type semiautomatic weapon that was classed as a “handgun” but a year later told the owners it was illegal.

The Weapons Licensing Branch has admitted that the Wedgetail WT15-01 pistol variant was “inadvertently issued” to a small number of Category H licensees before it was properly researched.

Owners of the weapon were then told the firearm was Category D — effectively meaning they must be shooting vermin on a rural property to be ­allowed to use it.


Shooters have now raised $15,000 online as a “fighting fund” to take the police service to the Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal. They say if the gun is not allowed they should be compensated.

“Legally there is no right to compensation,” Firearm Owners United vice-president Kirk Yatras told The Courier-Mail.

“(But) from an ethical and moral standpoint, they made a mistake here.

“We’re all out of pocket $6000 on guns; we all got permits before we purchased the firearms, and then they’ve turned around and said this.”


Mr Yatras said the gun would only sell for about $1000-$2000 to Category D holders, who would prefer other weapons more suited to their needs. Category D is also the hardest licence to be granted and requires the applicant to provide evidence of the need to hold the licence (such as a significant feral animal problem) and the need to possess a Category D weapon.

Mr Yatras said the weapon was a “derivative design” of an AR15-type platform and was semiautomatic. He and others bought it to get an edge in professional shooting.
The Queensland Police Service declined to answer questions because the matter was before QCAT

In a statement it said there were currently 3939 firearms in Category D and 76,649 in Category H.

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/sporting-shooters-want-compo-afte...



The police approved the Permits to Acquire before these firearms could be purchased.


The Weapons Licensing branch of Qld Police stuffed up here they should compensate these firearm owners for confiscating their guns a year after allowing them to legally buy them and pay their court costs to seek compensation.
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Re: Qld police sued over stuff up
Reply #1 - Oct 19th, 2018 at 2:06pm
 
Yeah good luck with that.
The Qld police is a criminal organisation set up by our federal criminal government. You'll get absolutely jack shyte compo from them.
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Reply #2 - Oct 19th, 2018 at 2:42pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 5:25pm:
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Sporting shooters want compo after police gun bungle


QUEENSLAND police allowed sporting shooters to buy a $6000 AR15-type semiautomatic weapon that was classed as a “handgun” but a year later told the owners it was illegal.

The Weapons Licensing Branch has admitted that the Wedgetail WT15-01 pistol variant was “inadvertently issued” to a small number of Category H licensees before it was properly researched.

Owners of the weapon were then told the firearm was Category D — effectively meaning they must be shooting vermin on a rural property to be ­allowed to use it.


Shooters have now raised $15,000 online as a “fighting fund” to take the police service to the Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal. They say if the gun is not allowed they should be compensated.

“Legally there is no right to compensation,” Firearm Owners United vice-president Kirk Yatras told The Courier-Mail.

“(But) from an ethical and moral standpoint, they made a mistake here.

“We’re all out of pocket $6000 on guns; we all got permits before we purchased the firearms, and then they’ve turned around and said this.”


Mr Yatras said the gun would only sell for about $1000-$2000 to Category D holders, who would prefer other weapons more suited to their needs. Category D is also the hardest licence to be granted and requires the applicant to provide evidence of the need to hold the licence (such as a significant feral animal problem) and the need to possess a Category D weapon.

Mr Yatras said the weapon was a “derivative design” of an AR15-type platform and was semiautomatic. He and others bought it to get an edge in professional shooting.
The Queensland Police Service declined to answer questions because the matter was before QCAT

In a statement it said there were currently 3939 firearms in Category D and 76,649 in Category H.

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/sporting-shooters-want-compo-afte...



The police approved the Permits to Acquire before these firearms could be purchased.


The Weapons Licensing branch of Qld Police stuffed up here they should compensate these firearm owners for confiscating their guns a year after allowing them to legally buy them and pay their court costs to seek compensation.


Not gonna happen.  QCAT has no jurisdiction.  And, no-one needs money to sue anyone in QCAT.  It is generally a Lawyer free zone...no Lawyers unless QCAT allows it and that is rare/not often.  No cost orders can be made either.  Someone is being ripped off and misled.
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Re: Qld police sued over stuff up
Reply #3 - Oct 19th, 2018 at 4:32pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 2:06pm:
Yeah good luck with that.
The Qld police is a criminal organisation set up by our federal criminal government. You'll get absolutely jack shyte compo from them.


The Queensland Police service is, if I am not very much mistaken, a state instrumentality and was created by the (originally) Queensland colonial Government, well before Federation had occurred.  What makes you say that it was created by the Federal Government?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #4 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 6:58pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 4:32pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 2:06pm:
Yeah good luck with that.
The Qld police is a criminal organisation set up by our federal criminal government. You'll get absolutely jack shyte compo from them.


The Queensland Police service is, if I am not very much mistaken, a state instrumentality and was created by the (originally) Queensland colonial Government, well before Federation had occurred.  What makes you say that it was created by the Federal Government?   Roll Eyes



Because they're an Australian buisiness.

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Reply #5 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 7:32pm
 
They would have been fully aware from day one that they were taking advantage of an error made by the regulator and that it was very likely almost certain to be corrected.
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Reply #6 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 8:05pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 6:58pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 4:32pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 2:06pm:
Yeah good luck with that.
The Qld police is a criminal organisation set up by our federal criminal government. You'll get absolutely jack shyte compo from them.


The Queensland Police service is, if I am not very much mistaken, a state instrumentality and was created by the (originally) Queensland colonial Government, well before Federation had occurred.  What makes you say that it was created by the Federal Government?   Roll Eyes


Because they're an Australian buisiness.


No, they are a Queensland Government owned instrumentality.  You really need to grow up, you realise?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Re: Qld police sued over stuff up
Reply #7 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 11:06pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 8:05pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 6:58pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 4:32pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 2:06pm:
Yeah good luck with that.
The Qld police is a criminal organisation set up by our federal criminal government. You'll get absolutely jack shyte compo from them.


The Queensland Police service is, if I am not very much mistaken, a state instrumentality and was created by the (originally) Queensland colonial Government, well before Federation had occurred.  What makes you say that it was created by the Federal Government?   Roll Eyes


Because they're an Australian buisiness.


No, they are a Queensland Government owned instrumentality.  You really need to grow up, you realise?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes



Yeah.

So where do the millions, or should I say billions accross Australia in speeding fines alone go?
Def not on infrastructure, roads, hospitals, or anywhere for our benifit. I think you're the one that needs to grow up.....or rather....wake up.  Grin
Have you ever had anything to do with oh&s? You seem to claim to know everything.
Putting a camera on the side of the road and taking pictures is not preventing speeding. It is feeding the fed gov and their handlers.
Get out of dreamworld brian and step into reality for a change.  Wink
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Re: Qld police sued over stuff up
Reply #8 - Oct 21st, 2018 at 10:19am
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 11:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 8:05pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 6:58pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 4:32pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 2:06pm:
Yeah good luck with that.
The Qld police is a criminal organisation set up by our federal criminal government. You'll get absolutely jack shyte compo from them.


The Queensland Police service is, if I am not very much mistaken, a state instrumentality and was created by the (originally) Queensland colonial Government, well before Federation had occurred.  What makes you say that it was created by the Federal Government?   Roll Eyes


Because they're an Australian buisiness.


No, they are a Queensland Government owned instrumentality.  You really need to grow up, you realise?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


Yeah.

So where do the millions, or should I say billions accross Australia in speeding fines alone go?


In each state they are distributed to general revenue.  They are the monies which pay for the roads, hospitals, schools, etc.  Time you woke up to how silly you sound.  Are you sure you're not a Yank?  Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes
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Re: Qld police sued over stuff up
Reply #9 - Oct 21st, 2018 at 5:26pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 10:19am:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 11:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 8:05pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 6:58pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 4:32pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 2:06pm:
Yeah good luck with that.
The Qld police is a criminal organisation set up by our federal criminal government. You'll get absolutely jack shyte compo from them.


The Queensland Police service is, if I am not very much mistaken, a state instrumentality and was created by the (originally) Queensland colonial Government, well before Federation had occurred.  What makes you say that it was created by the Federal Government?   Roll Eyes


Because they're an Australian buisiness.


No, they are a Queensland Government owned instrumentality.  You really need to grow up, you realise?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


Yeah.

So where do the millions, or should I say billions accross Australia in speeding fines alone go?


In each state they are distributed to general revenue.  They are the monies which pay for the roads, hospitals, schools, etc.  Time you woke up to how silly you sound.  Are you sure you're not a Yank?  Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes


Bwahahahaha.
You are very amusing. Very!
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Re: Qld police sued over stuff up
Reply #10 - Oct 21st, 2018 at 5:35pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 5:26pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 10:19am:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 11:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 8:05pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 20th, 2018 at 6:58pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 4:32pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 2:06pm:
Yeah good luck with that.
The Qld police is a criminal organisation set up by our federal criminal government. You'll get absolutely jack shyte compo from them.


The Queensland Police service is, if I am not very much mistaken, a state instrumentality and was created by the (originally) Queensland colonial Government, well before Federation had occurred.  What makes you say that it was created by the Federal Government?   Roll Eyes


Because they're an Australian buisiness.


No, they are a Queensland Government owned instrumentality.  You really need to grow up, you realise?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


Yeah.

So where do the millions, or should I say billions accross Australia in speeding fines alone go?


In each state they are distributed to general revenue.  They are the monies which pay for the roads, hospitals, schools, etc.  Time you woke up to how silly you sound.  Are you sure you're not a Yank?  Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes


Bwahahahaha.
You are very amusing. Very!
Wink



Any time.  Do you have proof otherwise?  Post it or shut up.   Are you sure you're not a Yank in disguise?  Mmmm?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #11 - Jan 29th, 2019 at 12:18pm
 
Aussie wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 2:42pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 14th, 2018 at 5:25pm:
Quote:
Sporting shooters want compo after police gun bungle


QUEENSLAND police allowed sporting shooters to buy a $6000 AR15-type semiautomatic weapon that was classed as a “handgun” but a year later told the owners it was illegal.

The Weapons Licensing Branch has admitted that the Wedgetail WT15-01 pistol variant was “inadvertently issued” to a small number of Category H licensees before it was properly researched.

Owners of the weapon were then told the firearm was Category D — effectively meaning they must be shooting vermin on a rural property to be ­allowed to use it.


Shooters have now raised $15,000 online as a “fighting fund” to take the police service to the Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal. They say if the gun is not allowed they should be compensated.

“Legally there is no right to compensation,” Firearm Owners United vice-president Kirk Yatras told The Courier-Mail.

“(But) from an ethical and moral standpoint, they made a mistake here.

“We’re all out of pocket $6000 on guns; we all got permits before we purchased the firearms, and then they’ve turned around and said this.”


Mr Yatras said the gun would only sell for about $1000-$2000 to Category D holders, who would prefer other weapons more suited to their needs. Category D is also the hardest licence to be granted and requires the applicant to provide evidence of the need to hold the licence (such as a significant feral animal problem) and the need to possess a Category D weapon.

Mr Yatras said the weapon was a “derivative design” of an AR15-type platform and was semiautomatic. He and others bought it to get an edge in professional shooting.
The Queensland Police Service declined to answer questions because the matter was before QCAT

In a statement it said there were currently 3939 firearms in Category D and 76,649 in Category H.

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/sporting-shooters-want-compo-afte...



The police approved the Permits to Acquire before these firearms could be purchased.


The Weapons Licensing branch of Qld Police stuffed up here they should compensate these firearm owners for confiscating their guns a year after allowing them to legally buy them and pay their court costs to seek compensation.


Not gonna happen.  QCAT has no jurisdiction.  And, no-one needs money to sue anyone in QCAT.  It is generally a Lawyer free zone...no Lawyers unless QCAT allows it and that is rare/not often.  No cost orders can be made either.  Someone is being ripped off and misled.


QCAT does have jurisdiction these firearms have been returned to their owners.

We don't expect Taxi drivers who pretend to be lawyers to understand this.

https://jade.io/article/629923?fbclid=IwAR0fFf6jIl9GF3QNKnKZfPnUtF-lTjOgBeoiK_yR...
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