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Reply #90 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 4:44pm
 
Gawd!

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to me.. why do you have to belong to a UNION   for them to step in....when someones life  is at stake.???......


Think about that, cods.  Really, I don't want to get up you without giving you an opportunity to work it out for yourself.

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Re: I got the sac today
Reply #91 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 4:54pm
 
Aussie wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 4:44pm:
Gawd!

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to me.. why do you have to belong to a UNION   for them to step in....when someones life  is at stake.???......


Think about that, cods.  Really, I don't want to get up you without giving you an opportunity to work it out for yourself.




i wasnt replying to you  i know you need everything spelt out pet..

people think the unions are still worth their weight in gold....

maybe I got the wrong idea what mike said.. regarding  a person being BLUE at their work station...

that sends all sorts of warning signals to me..

not you pet   no one expects you to think like that..

this is a business in Australia  where I would expect everyone in the work place has heard of WORKSAFE and UNIONS.... someone other than mike would have realised it was wrong to turn BLUE  and would have contacted someone at sometime.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

perhaps mike would know if this business had ever had a visit from a Union rep?......I dont know...

maybe crook would know though he seems to be more interested in people getting paid in the proper way

  he certainly never comes up with advice in a case like this...

crawl back where you came  from aussie..when I want your sneering advice I will ask for it..



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Reply #92 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 5:16pm
 
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to me.. why do you have to belong to a UNION   for them to step in....when someones life  is at stake.???......


You fuq wit!  Because without Members, there is no Union!

You want a Union to exist but not have Membership.  Dumb.
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Reply #93 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 6:48pm
 
It may not be legal for this to cover safety issues or illegal activity.

My scumbag exboss had already broken our contract by changing conditions without my written signed consent.

So he will have trouble trying to enforce a contract he has broken.
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Reply #94 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 6:55pm
 
Aussie wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 5:16pm:
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to me.. why do you have to belong to a UNION   for them to step in....when someones life  is at stake.???......


You fuq wit!  Because without Members, there is no Union!

You want a Union to exist but not have Membership.  Dumb.


Next, you'll tell me that a Union ought to help some bloke who is not a Member, yes?
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Reply #95 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 7:08pm
 
miketrees wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 6:48pm:
It may not be legal for this to cover safety issues or illegal activity.

My scumbag exboss had already broken our contract by changing conditions without my written signed consent.

So he will have trouble trying to enforce a contract he has broken.



sounds good mike...I am disgusted by some who only come into a thread to ridicule or put down others..

you are a serious case of "neglect " I am sure there is a stronger word to use.. butg cant think at the moment..

because  I am horrified by the ignorance of some  who are so desperate for attention  they do whatever they can, to deflect any thread on to themselves...  Angry Angry Angry..

for you  read through his rubbish  so you can talk about the situation you find yourself in!!!!  is bloody appalling....

my apologies that he uses me as an excuse to get the attention on to himself......

as you can see he has absolutely  no interest in  your situation at all.

just vile abuse...getting round the swear filter...I am sure you need that mike. Sad Sad Sad
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Reply #96 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 7:16pm
 
You had your chance cods.

Far cough.  You have no idea what you say.  You want a Union to be the "White Night" for a non Member.  He is on his own.
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Reply #97 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 7:25pm
 
cods wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 4:27pm:
to me.. why do you have to belong to a UNION   for them to step in....when someones life  is at stake.???......


It's a thing called 'Right of Entry', cods.

https://www.fwc.gov.au/registered-organisations/entry-permits

Unions can't just barge in wherever (or whenever) they like.

There are laws that they must, and do, obey.

And, in a general sense, a Union can't just step in and assist a non-member.

That would be like an insurance company repairing someone's car after an accident, even though they don't have a policy with them.



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Reply #98 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 7:26pm
 
Aussie wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 7:16pm:
You had your chance cods.

Far cough.  You have no idea what you say.  You want a Union to be the "White Night" for a non Member.  He is on his own.



And just lately arsehole, you are on your own.......particularly after you stabbed your best buddy pessary in the back.........that's a legal eagle for ya.......or is that a taxi driver with a big faqqing gob.......and vivid imagination.........

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Reply #99 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 7:27pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 7:26pm:
Aussie wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 7:16pm:
You had your chance cods.

Far cough.  You have no idea what you say.  You want a Union to be the "White Night" for a non Member.  He is on his own.



And just lately arsehole, you are on your own.......particularly after you stabbed your best buddy pessary in the back.........that's a legal eagle for ya.......or is that a taxi driver with a big faqqing gob.......and vivid imagination.........

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No wounds in my back.

Again, for cods:

It's a thing called 'Right of Entry', cods.

https://www.fwc.gov.au/registered-organisations/entry-permits

Unions can't just barge in wherever (or whenever) they like.

There are laws that they must, and do, obey.

And, in a general sense, a Union can't just step in and assist a non-member.

That would be like an insurance company repairing someone's car after an accident, even though they don't have a policy with them.
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Re: I got the sac today
Reply #100 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 7:30pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 7:25pm:
cods wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 4:27pm:
to me.. why do you have to belong to a UNION   for them to step in....when someones life  is at stake.???......


It's a thing called 'Right of Entry', cods.

https://www.fwc.gov.au/registered-organisations/entry-permits

Unions can't just barge in wherever (or whenever) they like.

There are laws that they must, and do, obey.

And, in a general sense, a Union can't just step in and assist a non-member.

That would be like an insurance company repairing someone's car after an accident, even though they don't have a policy with them.



But, they will and do help non-union members if that person contacts them and asks for help.
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Reply #101 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 7:33pm
 
Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 7:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 7:25pm:
cods wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 4:27pm:
to me.. why do you have to belong to a UNION   for them to step in....when someones life  is at stake.???......


It's a thing called 'Right of Entry', cods.

https://www.fwc.gov.au/registered-organisations/entry-permits

Unions can't just barge in wherever (or whenever) they like.

There are laws that they must, and do, obey.

And, in a general sense, a Union can't just step in and assist a non-member.

That would be like an insurance company repairing someone's car after an accident, even though they don't have a policy with them.



But, they will and do help non-union members if that person contacts them and asks for help.


Legally, they can't represent them in court or at the FWC.

They can certainly give non-members advice, though.

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Reply #102 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 7:34pm
 
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But, they will and do help non-union members if that person contacts them and asks for help.


I suspect that will happen with a condition that they join the Union.

Peccary has nailed it.  Pay the premium, get the insurance.
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Reply #103 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 7:39pm
 
Aussie wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 7:34pm:
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But, they will and do help non-union members if that person contacts them and asks for help.


I suspect that will happen with a condition that they join the Union.

Peccary has nailed it.  Pay the premium, get the insurance.


Even if they join, they still can't legally represent them if it's a pre-existing complaint.

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Reply #104 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 7:43pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 7:33pm:
Cu Chulainn wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 7:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 7:25pm:
cods wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 4:27pm:
to me.. why do you have to belong to a UNION   for them to step in....when someones life  is at stake.???......


It's a thing called 'Right of Entry', cods.

https://www.fwc.gov.au/registered-organisations/entry-permits

Unions can't just barge in wherever (or whenever) they like.

There are laws that they must, and do, obey.

And, in a general sense, a Union can't just step in and assist a non-member.

That would be like an insurance company repairing someone's car after an accident, even though they don't have a policy with them.



But, they will and do help non-union members if that person contacts them and asks for help.


Legally, they can't represent them in court or at the FWC.

They can certainly give non-members advice, though.



Perhaps but that's not the only way for help to be given. When I was a young fellow I worked in the freezer at PWS in Osborne Park, Perth. We did not have freezer clothes, it was -30 and we would leave the freezer when nothing was coming through from the snap freezer, to warm up. We got a new GM from the UK who was a total arsehole and he demanded we stay in the freezer all day and would not provide the clothing to do so. I called the Union and was not a member, the Union came out and in no time we had the gear needed, I joined the Union.

The same GM then had a cafeteria built on site and demanded we could not leave the premises at lunch time and buy food off-site and that we could not eat in our cars or outside the cafeteria. You can guess where I told him to shove that.

Maggie T would have been proud of him.
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