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Reply #165 - Oct 13th, 2018 at 7:07am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 13th, 2018 at 4:47am:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 9:28pm:
Yes. Life was very different back when I was growing up too.
However life is so much more cluttered now and programed into a throw away society.
The family union has been eroded. It's all about stress. Stressed humans are blind humans.


So the organised government campaign to erode the family unit as the mainstay of society is working full bore?  That once considered insane Stalinist concept that all power must reside with the State is progressing at a huge rate of knots, supported by the major parties of all colours?




There, My Lord - THERE is your enemy!  A government with an agenda of absolute control.

I recommend reading "The Rise and Fall of The Third Reich" by William L Shirer (a non-Jewish American of German descent) and watching Kissinger's "The Greatest Tsar" ........

In the first you will see countless reflections of modern life in the West - the abolition of organised labour, control of the media, pork barreling to mates, control over every aspect of daily life and strict regimentation, arbitrary arrest and imprisonment on suspicion... you name it...

In the second you will see the Reign of Terror..... and how it is all SS-DD, regardless of 'left' or 'right' affiliation.

Then I would recommend to you Barnet's "Intervention and Revolution" for the causes of public revolt and insurrection....

Shocked  eyes open, people.... I won't always be here to lead you.....  Cool




Yes siree.
This whole programed society is a false reality and the sheep are walking through the stalls to the slaughter house....willingly.


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Re: Canberra we have a PROBLEM
Reply #166 - Oct 13th, 2018 at 7:34am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11th, 2018 at 1:44pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 11th, 2018 at 9:00am:
I don't agree with "why bother".

The Govt isn't responsible for all violence.
(edit) Except as pointed out by Grappler with DVO & AVO orders & their one sided application.

We have laws of the land to deal with violence/assault.

Unless you want the removal of all men from the picture ......

how will this be resolved?

btw ... I was not talking/typing off topic. 



I am aware that I at times speak too deeply for many - I've been accused in the past of speaking like a professor...  my apologies... to me the way I explain things is pretty simple....

While I agree, Gnads, on direct government responsibility for taking a hopelessly one-sided approach to the issues of 'relationship' violence - I also observe far deeper and more hidden concerns over the fact that any government would even approach such a thing in the way it has for over twenty five year. 

Governments don't do things for nothing - and it simply cannot be as simple as the way they try to portray it - men always abuser, women always victim.  The only reason anyone would adopt such an approach is because they wish to beat men down*, and in my eyes and experience, that is simply in order to quash any opposition to (rather childish) government doing whatever it wants without constraint.

In approaching the issues from this perspective, government has unleash a campaign of violence against men - a shotgun approach based on their insane version of 'domestic violence laws' - which, by directly attacking any man for any reason on the basis of a claimed 'feeling', is seeking to create a climate of fear in men to behave in some mythical way and have no say, and rather than resolving any issues of violence, has created far more violence in every way.

To me that is pretty obvious... and equally obvious is that any continuation or extension of this current insane handling will only make matters worse.


* many would say, and probably rightly, that any 'man' who would seek to do such things is a craven coward and a bully hiding behind the abuse of Law - and one with no balls himself, and one who runs in fear of real men who can stand up and be counted on issues such as basic rights.... What was that comment about Castro's Cuba?  If it were not for your guns, you would be living on the island of Robinson Crusoe..


I agree.
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Reply #167 - Oct 13th, 2018 at 8:00am
 
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I don't agree with "why bother".

The Govt isn't responsible for all violence.
(edit) Except as pointed out by Grappler with DVO & AVO orders & their one sided application.

We have laws of the land to deal with violence/assault.

Unless you want the removal of all men from the picture ......

how will this be resolved?

btw ... I was not talking/typing off topic. 



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did you bother to read my posts... you didnt mention anything thats why I am asking...

funny thing this topic was mentioned on the news tonight   now its 7 women murdered by a person they knew  in 7 days.... so it would appear I am not the only one who thinks some thing needs to be done about it..

sorry grap   the news didnt say a thing about being spread all over the continent   maybe it didnt matter..


a man was also murdered today and a women has been arrested......

for a country that classes itself better than most....with one of the smallest populations   

I am horrified by what is happening.....

do we have any idea just how many children are being brought up by anyone other than their parents... due to one parent being in jail for murdering the other parent???????????...


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Glad you said parent.

182 Australians killed in 2018 either by murder or manslaughter.

Of that 103 were men

62 women

18 children.

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Re: Canberra we have a PROBLEM
Reply #168 - Oct 13th, 2018 at 8:43am
 
aquascoot wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 5:24pm:
oh my ideas have zero chance of getting taken seriously.
the idea that young boys would be mentored and taught to accept the "suffering of life"  and learn not to complain is heresy to the modern socio-cultural environment.

I mean, cods, 95% of the postings on this forum are about complaining , whining and being a victim.

and when you do that, you become bitter and resentful.

and then you become cruel and you will act that out.

i'm just trying to provide some balance.

young men can be taught to be strong powerful assertive and to take responsibility for their emotions.
but that is NEVER NEVER EVER going to happen in 2018 in a western democracy as the brainwashing from the cultural elite is that masculinity is toxic and is to be eradicated.

but if you think that this will stop young boys have sexual urges and aggressive urges, then you are out of your mind.

young men either learn to embrace their aggression and sexual urges or they suppress it and it then comes out in times of stress when defences are down. and it will come out in an ugly way.




so what is your answer aqua?>>..

embracing their aggression is surely what they are doing right now...

they cant go out for a Sat night drink without bloodying someone..... football matches are turned into a war zone...women are not safe to walk the streets at night....child porn  is the fastest growing industry....a bigger disease than smallpox.....

give me a break aqua....

you dont even mention what is educating our children these days...

games that are all about killing... and enjoying it...

dont forget they get their fill of it 24/7..... Angry Angry

parents are far too busy collecting things....


I agree something needs to be done BUT HOW....

you do realise what we are seeing is only going to get worse.......

we are doing less and expecting more.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Canberra we have a PROBLEM
Reply #169 - Oct 13th, 2018 at 9:02am
 
Glad you said parent.

182 Australians killed in 2018 either by murder or manslaughter.

Of that 103 were men

62 women

18 children.


  can you tell us how many of those men murdered were killed by their female partners..

a lot of men are killed by other men...

some take their own lives after a killing spree.

I dont think anyone claims women do not kill their partners....

whole families are being wiped out now........

and that is mostly up to men... Cry Cry Cry

and we dont seem any closer to finding the answer..

I think everyone should be on the same page with DV..... whatever it is it affects all sides...

18 children killed by their own.
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