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Reply #120 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:00pm
 
Aussie wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:56pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
It is never going to stop.....period.
Introduce all the bullshyte you like....you'll bever stop it.


The problem is you cannot accept that truth. IT WILL NEVER STOP....FACT.


Curse me all you like. I don't care but untill you accept reality you're only hurting yourself.


I reckon you are right and a spouse who is subject to DV ought to move on at the first sign and NOT fall for the grovelling apology.  Get out of harm's way.



I agree 100%.
The woman staying in a relationship like that does so at her own risk.
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Reply #121 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:02pm
 
Valkie wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:57pm:
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Please don't read me wrong
I have a wife and a couple of girl children, all of who I love deeply.
I am also very fortunate that my wife is sensible and we can talk through our issues.

Perhaps I am also a little more aware of the problems because of my education and training.

But I have seen it all go bad with friends and family because of pressures that have destroyed their relationships.

There is nothing on this earth sadder than watching the love of two people fail, not because of them, but because of the pressures of life.

Love should never fail we are all told
Happily ever after is a myth,
You love passionately in the early years.
You grow to know each other And find things you don't like
You try to change the other, while holding onto your own failings.

But suddenly, you begin to realize that the person you loved is changing.
Smart people, those who will have a long marriage, stop trying to change each other
Accepting the differences as we accept the little faults in our favourite things

In time you begin to love these little faults, because they make your partner who they are.
It is at this point you know what true love is.
Irrespective of all the faults, warts and grey hairs
That little woman is the love of your life.

Every time I see her, every time we hold hands, every time we pass each other And touch, only makes us love more.

Men and women are different
We can never be the same
We can never be the perfect image that the other wants
Trying to change men into pseudo women or women into pseudo men will bring no satisfaction or joy.

We must learn to embrace the differences
We must learn that we are different
Or the human race is doomed.



I try to deal with the over-riding issues of power, violence and its use as a tool for hegemony, the use of the law as a means of generating/continuing civil war by other means, and the blatant attempt by some to establish as near a controlled society as possible by bringing down our culture and the personal power of the individual.

I know that escapes many here - who imagine that because I oppose lies and propaganda, I am somehow in favour of some bashing some  - when a fair reading of what I post says the absolute opposite - I support no violence at all... bur rather warn against using violence as a means to control violence...

That's like the Japanese attacking Pearl Harbour to ensure peace in The Pacific.
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Re: Canberra we have a PROBLEM
Reply #122 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:03pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:00pm:
Aussie wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:56pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
It is never going to stop.....period.
Introduce all the bullshyte you like....you'll bever stop it.


The problem is you cannot accept that truth. IT WILL NEVER STOP....FACT.


Curse me all you like. I don't care but untill you accept reality you're only hurting yourself.


I reckon you are right and a spouse who is subject to DV ought to move on at the first sign and NOT fall for the grovelling apology.  Get out of harm's way.



I agree 100%.
The woman staying in a relationship like that does so at her own risk.


The person staying in a relationship like that does so at his/her own risk.

You are missing the dynamics of relationship violence and the realities of it.
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Reply #123 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:05pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:52pm:
Bobby wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 3:37pm:
Washington, Delaware and New Hampshire all have hanging as a method of capital punishment.





When's the last time that Washington, Delaware and New Hampshire hanged anyone?
When did they ever hang em high?


In Botswana, in May this year, Uyapo Poloko was hanged.

Nek minnut (August this year):

"The United Nations in Botswana in solidarity with the Government of Botswana, joins key stakeholders and society at large to condemn Gender-Based Violence(GBV), especially the increasing incidences of violence against women and children in public and private spheres."

Since the hanging, violence against women has increased.

How can that be, though?

Booby said: "The only way to stop violence against women is bring back hanging".



In Egypt, in August this year, Raza Rabie Kamal Abd Rabbo, Mohamed Ahmed El Sayed Hassan, Saad Gouda Mohamed Ali, Magdy Ahmed El Sayed Hassan and Mohamed Ibrahim Ali Mohamed Amara were all hanged.

Nek minnut (September this year):

In Egypt "...  violence against women, and child and forced marriage practices continue."

Someone's not getting the message, Bobby.

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Re: Canberra we have a PROBLEM
Reply #124 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:08pm
 
Bobby wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:57pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
It is never going to stop.....period.
Introduce all the bullshyte you like....you'll never stop it.


The problem is you cannot accept that truth. IT WILL NEVER STOP....FACT.


Curse me all you like. I don't care but untill you accept reality you're only hurting yourself.



Perhaps you're right but
wouldn't some good christian hangings make everyone feel better?
At least people could see some justice.



Do people really want justice? That's the BIG question.

We see and hear of judges letting off bad people and cry on an Internet forum or facebook and everyone is vocal through typing....yet when faced with reality they'll close their eyes at night and find something different to whinge about the next day. If all those thousands of people commenting etc wanted justice to be surved they would be following it up daily, marching on parliment, protesting the streets untill justice was served or their voice heard.....but who has the time for all of that? So we get what we get.

I've said it all my life...better to be prepared than to be surprised.
Learn defence. Learn to protect yourself and look after yourself because those thousand people that whinged after you died or your killer was let off didn't give a crap about you before your unfortunate event.
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Re: Canberra we have a PROBLEM
Reply #125 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:10pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:03pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:00pm:
Aussie wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:56pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
It is never going to stop.....period.
Introduce all the bullshyte you like....you'll bever stop it.


The problem is you cannot accept that truth. IT WILL NEVER STOP....FACT.


Curse me all you like. I don't care but untill you accept reality you're only hurting yourself.


I reckon you are right and a spouse who is subject to DV ought to move on at the first sign and NOT fall for the grovelling apology.  Get out of harm's way.



I agree 100%.
The woman staying in a relationship like that does so at her own risk.


The person staying in a relationship like that does so at his/her own risk.

You are missing the dynamics of relationship violence and the realities of it.



Yeah sorry for that.
Just trying not to upset the OP again because we've been told this thread is for the women being killed.
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Re: Canberra we have a PROBLEM
Reply #126 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:19pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:08pm:
Bobby wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:57pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
It is never going to stop.....period.
Introduce all the bullshyte you like....you'll never stop it.


The problem is you cannot accept that truth. IT WILL NEVER STOP....FACT.


Curse me all you like. I don't care but untill you accept reality you're only hurting yourself.



Perhaps you're right but
wouldn't some good christian hangings make everyone feel better?
At least people could see some justice.



Do people really want justice? That's the BIG question.

We see and hear of judges letting off bad people and cry on an Internet forum or facebook and everyone is vocal through typing....yet when faced with reality they'll close their eyes at night and find something different to whinge about the next day. If all those thousands of people commenting etc wanted justice to be surved they would be following it up daily, marching on parliment, protesting the streets untill justice was served or their voice heard.....but who has the time for all of that? So we get what we get.

I've said it all my life...better to be prepared than to be surprised.
Learn defence. Learn to protect yourself and look after yourself because those thousand people that whinged after you died or your killer was let off didn't give a crap about you before your unfortunate event.



Learn defence?

Are you victim blaming because they don't have the skills of Bruce Lee?
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Reply #127 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:29pm
 
Bobby wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:19pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:08pm:
Bobby wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:57pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
It is never going to stop.....period.
Introduce all the bullshyte you like....you'll never stop it.


The problem is you cannot accept that truth. IT WILL NEVER STOP....FACT.


Curse me all you like. I don't care but untill you accept reality you're only hurting yourself.



Perhaps you're right but
wouldn't some good christian hangings make everyone feel better?
At least people could see some justice.



Do people really want justice? That's the BIG question.

We see and hear of judges letting off bad people and cry on an Internet forum or facebook and everyone is vocal through typing....yet when faced with reality they'll close their eyes at night and find something different to whinge about the next day. If all those thousands of people commenting etc wanted justice to be surved they would be following it up daily, marching on parliment, protesting the streets untill justice was served or their voice heard.....but who has the time for all of that? So we get what we get.

I've said it all my life...better to be prepared than to be surprised.
Learn defence. Learn to protect yourself and look after yourself because those thousand people that whinged after you died or your killer was let off didn't give a crap about you before your unfortunate event.



Learn defence?

Are you victim blaming because they don't have the skills of Bruce Lee?



No not at all.
But knowing there are really messed up people walking around you day in day out and not doing anything that may bebifit yourself should you need it....that is pretty silly don't you think? I think it is pretty silly.

Better to know it and not need it than need it and not know it....yeah???
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Reply #128 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:35pm
 
Bobby wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:19pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:08pm:
Bobby wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:57pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
It is never going to stop.....period.
Introduce all the bullshyte you like....you'll never stop it.


The problem is you cannot accept that truth. IT WILL NEVER STOP....FACT.


Curse me all you like. I don't care but untill you accept reality you're only hurting yourself.



Perhaps you're right but
wouldn't some good christian hangings make everyone feel better?
At least people could see some justice.



Do people really want justice? That's the BIG question.

We see and hear of judges letting off bad people and cry on an Internet forum or facebook and everyone is vocal through typing....yet when faced with reality they'll close their eyes at night and find something different to whinge about the next day. If all those thousands of people commenting etc wanted justice to be surved they would be following it up daily, marching on parliment, protesting the streets untill justice was served or their voice heard.....but who has the time for all of that? So we get what we get.

I've said it all my life...better to be prepared than to be surprised.
Learn defence. Learn to protect yourself and look after yourself because those thousand people that whinged after you died or your killer was let off didn't give a crap about you before your unfortunate event.



Learn defence?

Are you victim blaming because they don't have the skills of Bruce Lee?




Look....I don't know if your hanging retoric is serious...but get with reality. Hangings haven't, and will never happen in this modern Australia.
The last person we hanged was a good man....just pushed beyond the limit by a corrupt and illegal organisation, The ever corrupt Government.  Wink

So while it is real john wayne to say hang em (hell I say it)...it will never happen.
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Reply #129 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:39pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:35pm:
Bobby wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:19pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:08pm:
Bobby wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:57pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
It is never going to stop.....period.
Introduce all the bullshyte you like....you'll never stop it.


The problem is you cannot accept that truth. IT WILL NEVER STOP....FACT.


Curse me all you like. I don't care but untill you accept reality you're only hurting yourself.



Perhaps you're right but
wouldn't some good christian hangings make everyone feel better?
At least people could see some justice.



Do people really want justice? That's the BIG question.

We see and hear of judges letting off bad people and cry on an Internet forum or facebook and everyone is vocal through typing....yet when faced with reality they'll close their eyes at night and find something different to whinge about the next day. If all those thousands of people commenting etc wanted justice to be surved they would be following it up daily, marching on parliment, protesting the streets untill justice was served or their voice heard.....but who has the time for all of that? So we get what we get.

I've said it all my life...better to be prepared than to be surprised.
Learn defence. Learn to protect yourself and look after yourself because those thousand people that whinged after you died or your killer was let off didn't give a crap about you before your unfortunate event.



Learn defence?

Are you victim blaming because they don't have the skills of Bruce Lee?




Look....I don't know if your hanging retoric is serious...but get with reality. Hangings haven't, and will never happen in this modern Australia.
The last person we hanged was a good man....just pushed beyond the limit by a corrupt and illegal organisation, The ever corrupt Government.  Wink

So while it is real john wayne to say hang em (hell I say it)...it will never happen.


His obsession has nothing to do with justice, or punishment, or preventing crime.

He just likes to see men well hung (or is it 'hanged well'?).

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Reply #130 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:41pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
No not at all.
But knowing there are really messed up people walking around you day in day out and not doing anything that may bebifit yourself should you need it....that is pretty silly don't you think? I think it is pretty silly.

Better to know it and not need it than need it and not know it....yeah???



It's time for some Bruce Lee:



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Reply #131 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:51pm
 

Are you ready to drop this, Bobby:

"The only way to stop violence against women is bring back hanging."

I've got another dozen or so examples that make you look like a complete & utter idiot, and I was gonna hammer you all night long (don't get excited). 

But, if you admit you were wrong, I'll go easy on you.


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Reply #132 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:55pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:51pm:
Are you ready to drop this, Bobby:

"The only way to stop violence against women is bring back hanging."

I've got another dozen or so examples that make you look like a complete & utter idiot, and I was gonna hammer you all night long (don't get excited). 

But, if you admit you were wrong, I'll go easy on you.





We've passed hanging now Greggy - it's about self defence now.
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Reply #133 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:56pm
 
Bobby wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:55pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:51pm:
Are you ready to drop this, Bobby:

"The only way to stop violence against women is bring back hanging."

I've got another dozen or so examples that make you look like a complete & utter idiot, and I was gonna hammer you all night long (don't get excited). 

But, if you admit you were wrong, I'll go easy on you.





We've passed hanging now Greggy - it's about self defence now.


Good.

Your white flag has been accepted, and I've put the Vaseline back in the bathroom cabinet.

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Re: Canberra we have a PROBLEM
Reply #134 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 10:41pm
 
Bobby wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:41pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
No not at all.
But knowing there are really messed up people walking around you day in day out and not doing anything that may bebifit yourself should you need it....that is pretty silly don't you think? I think it is pretty silly.

Better to know it and not need it than need it and not know it....yeah???



It's time for some Bruce Lee:






So... you.. wan... to ... fight?  I'll tek yo on....



WA! K'arim'aska!!  Dai Ichi!!  Bruce Lee Numbah One!!
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