Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10
th, 2018 at 5:25pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 10
th, 2018 at 5:00pm:
I've been reading this thread for a while
It seems to have a polarizing effect on people, and arguments aplenty
But no real functional solutions.
Ok, then let's try
Before one can fix a problem, one must examine the symptoms and determine the root cause.
Now, the symptoms are
Men attack women
Men attack men
Women are hurt more because there is
1) more passion involved
2) women are weaker
But these are only symptoms, not the root cause
Why do men attack men and women?
Well, there are several reasons
Drunk
Drugged
Angry ( this could be for many reasons)
In retaliation for being wronged or thinking they were wronged
Stress
Etc, etc.
You can help some of these causes, but not all, some are feelings and may not be logical, like a man who thinks his wife is playing around.
So, what is the solution
Well, the first is to teach men and women to respect each other
And no, it's not a one way street, men deserve respect too.
Then we need to teach men to harness their strength
A man thumping another man for an insult is not a bad thing
But that same thump on a woman can seriously hurt her.
So men need to learn the weakness of women, not that they are equal, but that they are not equal in strength.
Women need to learn that you don't hit a man and not to expect to be hit back, you girls asked for it, equality means equality.
So we both need to change a little
We both need to realise that we are different in different ways.
We both need to grow up
Here we go again - most DV incidents are INITIATED by the woman.... and you are being sucked in by the propaganda that every DV and AV issue is about some bloke belting the woman.. utter nonsense... most 'orders (illegal BTW) are handed out over NON-violent issues - they are supposed to PREVENT violence and if and when GENUINE violence has occurred, it was always actionable under the law of assault - yet how you expect to prevent violence that has not occurred other than in someone's mind without being violent by handing such orders to the other person is beyond me...
Et tu, Brute.....
You have oversimplified what I was saying.
Arguments take two people.
And you must admit, some women don't know when to let it go.
But if you read deeper into my post
I state that there is more than just "I hate you...thump"
Men are often under great pressure, in their jobs, trying to fit into an ever changing world we are not wired for.
Since we all climbed out of the trees
Men have been the protector and Hunter
Women have been the nurturer
Men fight
Women talk and manipulate
This is not meant to be insulting, it's simply the way it is.
This is why women make great middle managers, but are out of their depth in more physically demanding management roles.
Now the world is changing faster than many men can cope
Now it's all touchy feely
Must "talk" through our problems instead of fighting
No need to protect,
No need to hunt
Men start feeling worthless and have partners who are encroaching on their masculine domain.
They start to see, and are constantly told that women are equal.
So they start to treat them as they treat men.
If a bloke insults or assaults a man, he fights back.
Add the uselessness of the grubberment allowing work to disappear overseas
Throw in the gay driven drivel
Chuck a couple of dependents
A touch of grog
And you have a time bomb ticking away.
What I'm saying is that it's not only women who need support
Many men commit suicide, and they generally succeed
But support is not as available, and men are wired differently to see any deficiencies as an attack on their masculinity
Then they go home to a partner who insults them
What do you think will happen?
There will always be the dead beat who simply like beating women
Cowards who are not brave enough to take on a man
But these are fewer than the "movement of equality" would have us believe
Many men have just hit the wall, and have nowhere to turn.
As I said
We all just need to respect each other And grow up
This "ALL MEN ARE EVIL BASTARDS" cry coming from women isn't helping.
Tell someone they are bad often enough, and they become bad.