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Reply #60 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 3:39pm
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 3:28pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 6:00pm:
I'm referring to it getting dark and miserable in Melbourne by about 5.00 PM in Winter.

I'd therefore prefer to have daylight saving all year round of one hour, and double that in Summer.

Hence, it would not be dark and miserable at 5:00 PM in Winter, but at 6:00 PM instead! Smiley




You nong .... you'd be getting up in morning in the dark.

That meme really does apply to you.


One does not rise until a civilized hour dear chap.  Wink
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Reply #61 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 3:52pm
 
We do it here too. About to turn the clocks back. Just as well I am retired.
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Reply #62 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 4:26pm
 
Mary Black wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 3:52pm:
We do it here too. About to turn the clocks back. Just as well I am retired.


Don't sleep much do you.  It's 1.26 am in Minnesota.
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Reply #63 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 6:20pm
 
Aussie wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 4:26pm:
Mary Black wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 3:52pm:
We do it here too. About to turn the clocks back. Just as well I am retired.


Don't sleep much do you. It's 1.26 am in Minnesota.


Yeah, well you have to change the clocks at 2am, don't you?

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Reply #64 - Oct 11th, 2018 at 9:13am
 
It's freakin stupid. Why mess with the time and disrupt everyone's routine just so it's light for another hour? It's dark all night so deal with it. We survived thousands of years before this crap and for ppl that start work early it's good to have light. Especially women who it seems are the ones that usually have to get up early. Oh. That's why.

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Reply #65 - Oct 11th, 2018 at 10:47am
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 3:39pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 10th, 2018 at 3:28pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 6:00pm:
I'm referring to it getting dark and miserable in Melbourne by about 5.00 PM in Winter.

I'd therefore prefer to have daylight saving all year round of one hour, and double that in Summer.

Hence, it would not be dark and miserable at 5:00 PM in Winter, but at 6:00 PM instead! Smiley




You nong .... you'd be getting up in morning in the dark.

That meme really does apply to you.


One does not rise until a civilized hour dear chap. Wink


Well Old Bean rising an hour earlier than your civilised  hour makes it an uncivilised hour does it not?

Mind games (pretending by putting the clocks forward) does not validate your lifestyle choice  Tongue
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Reply #66 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 1:46pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 8th, 2018 at 6:25am:
Wasn't it put to a vote?
Here in Qld we said NO!




In 60 odd years of modern era daylight saving in mainstream Australia - I've always believed that this opposition to unity and energy saving measures has always been tied to intellect - or more to the point - general lack OF it

Just have a look at where it all COMES from

Gough Whitlam once said of Joh Bjelke-Peterson- "He can't even agree on the time of day"
You'd almost think that Queenslanders and Australians were different races, sometimes

It never seems to occur to Queenslanders that their obstinance is costing them two hours of commerce time, per day, with the mainland





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Reply #67 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 2:51pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 1:46pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 8th, 2018 at 6:25am:
Wasn't it put to a vote?
Here in Qld we said NO!




In 60 odd years of modern era daylight saving in mainstream Australia - I've always believed that this opposition to unity and energy saving measures has always been tied to intellect - or more to the point - general lack OF it

Just have a look at where it all COMES from

Gough Whitlam once said of Joh Bjelke-Peterson- "He can't even agree on the time of day"
You'd almost think that Queenslanders and Australians were different races, sometimes

It never seems to occur to Queenslanders that their obstinance is costing them two hours of commerce time, per day, with the mainland







Queenslanders arent the ones that are trying to change the time

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Reply #68 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 3:15pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 2:51pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 1:46pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 8th, 2018 at 6:25am:
Wasn't it put to a vote?
Here in Qld we said NO!




In 60 odd years of modern era daylight saving in mainstream Australia - I've always believed that this opposition to unity and energy saving measures has always been tied to intellect - or more to the point - general lack OF it

Just have a look at where it all COMES from

Gough Whitlam once said of Joh Bjelke-Peterson- "He can't even agree on the time of day"
You'd almost think that Queenslanders and Australians were different races, sometimes

It never seems to occur to Queenslanders that their obstinance is costing them two hours of commerce time, per day, with the mainland







Queenslanders arent the ones that are trying to change the time

Spot




DESPITE this, Queenslanders are the ones being left behind

Almost all of the rest of the WORLD moves to daylight saving time - over the summer months - as an energy saving measure




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Reply #69 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 4:13pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 3:15pm:
Almost all of the rest of the WORLD moves to daylight saving time - over the summer months - as an energy saving measure


Having the air conditioning on for an hour longer does NOT save energy.
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Reply #70 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 4:24pm
 
On the other hand, you might turn off the Aircon effectively an hour earlier (when going to bed). Depending on the noise factor involved?

Actually: on second thoughts ... it makes no difference really.

If you arrive home at X hour and go to bed at X +hours ... then the time interval for the Aircon is the same with or without DLS....

Now ... for those of you who might be fans of Half Life 2


...


G-Man:
Time, Dr. Freeman? Is it really that time again? It seems as if you only just arrived. You've done a great deal in a small time span. You've done so well, in fact, that I've received some interesting offers for your services.

G-Man:
Ordinarily, I wouldn't contemplate them... but these *are* extraordinary times.

G-Man:
Rather than offer you the illusion of free choice, I will take the liberty of choosing for you... if and when your time comes round again. I do apologize for what must seem to you an arbitrary imposition, Dr. Freeman. I trust it will all make sense to you in the course of... well... I'm really not at liberty to say. In the meantime... this is where I get off.



And, for a more musically bent:


Time
Pink Floyd

Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
Fritter and waste the hours in an offhand way.
Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town
Waiting for someone or something to show you the way.

Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain.
You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today.
And then one day you find ten years have got behind you.
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun.

So you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking
Racing around to come up behind you again.
The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older,
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death.

Every year is getting shorter never seem to find the time.
Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way
The time is gone, the song is over,
Thought I'd something more to say.

Home
Home again
I like to be here
When I can
When I come home
Cold and tired
It's good to warm my bones
Beside the fire

Far away
Across the field

Tolling on the iron bell
Calls the faithful to their knees
To hear the softly spoken magic spell

Songwriters: Roger Waters
Time lyrics Warner/Chappell Music, Inc

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Reply #71 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 5:45pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 4:13pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 3:15pm:
Almost all of the rest of the WORLD moves to daylight saving time - over the summer months - as an energy saving measure


Having the air conditioning on for an hour longer does NOT save energy.




Air conditioning ?

Have you looked into passive cooling design architecture (think "The Queenslander") so you can finally move out of that iron shipping container ?

I have two rellies in Cairns - and one out on the Atherton
None of these see a desperate need for "aircon"
Maybe as Victorians, they're a little hardier?



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Reply #72 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 6:18pm
 
We poor old Melbournites have to survive in temperature ranges between freezing and 45 + oShocked

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Reply #73 - Oct 13th, 2018 at 9:41pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 4:24pm:
On the other hand, you might turn off the Aircon effectively an hour earlier (when going to bed). Depending on the noise factor involved?

Actually: on second thoughts ... it makes no difference really.

If you arrive home at X hour and go to bed at X +hours ... then the time interval for the Aircon is the same with or without DLS....


If I get up on a daylight savings day, I will put my fans on anytime after 9am. Effectively, that means I would be putting the fans on at 8am normal time. The days goes on and I leave the fans on an average hour longer than I would during normal non-DLS time. The lights for my house go on by the later afternoon, and does so regardless of what time sunset occur. Lights do not cost nearly as much as air conditioning and fans. The argument that not switching on lights until an hour later does not add up to savings.
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Reply #74 - Oct 13th, 2018 at 10:28pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 5:45pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 4:13pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 12th, 2018 at 3:15pm:
Almost all of the rest of the WORLD moves to daylight saving time - over the summer months - as an energy saving measure


Having the air conditioning on for an hour longer does NOT save energy.


Air conditioning ?

Have you looked into passive cooling design architecture (think "The Queenslander") so you can finally move out of that iron shipping container ?

I have two rellies in Cairns - and one out on the Atherton
None of these see a desperate need for "aircon"
Maybe as Victorians, they're a little hardier?


Perhaps these Cairns residents don't get the heat that people 100km southwest of them start to feel. Cairns and Atherton also have more cloudy days than most other places in Qld. I could imagine today's rain period days in Rockhampton as typical of Cairns summer weather. Cool, with little daylight hours due to cloud cover. As a Rockhamptonite, I don't use air conditioning until it gets to 40-degrees celsius or above. That is probably only for a week of the year at a minimum. But I am sure that if our 35-degree plus days had 75% humidity, I would be using air conditioning most of the summer.

I happen to live in a Queenslander. I use my air conditioning sparsely, simply because I have to shut up the lounge to trap whatever cool my 40-year-old air conditioner produces. In other words, it is not worth the effort, other than when we have 40-degree celsius days.
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