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Reply #45 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 3:38pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 12:29pm:
You can understand why Brisbane wouldn't want DLS ... after all, Brisbane is as far to the east of Melbourne as Adelaide is as far to the West of Melbourne. In the bigger states there is a large difference in "real time" from West to East.

As for me in Melbourne? I would like DLS all year round and double DLS in Summer.  Cool


Brisbane & the GC & some of the Sunshine Coast want DLS.

I can tell you I know a couple of Melbournites that detest DLS.

You have a natural summer twilight until nearly 9pm ...Why would you want it light until 10pm with DLS? Roll Eyes 

btw that meme I posted ... the Indian is talking to you. Wink
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Reply #46 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 3:40pm
 
It gets dark so early in Winter down here ... that's why I would like it all year round.
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Reply #47 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 5:46pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 3:40pm:
It gets dark so early in Winter down here ... that's why I would like it all year round.


How does that work when the daylight hours are naturally shorter?

It doesn't just get darker earlier(like it does all over the country/globe).

It get's light later.

You really are Irish.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #48 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 6:00pm
 
I'm referring to it getting dark and miserable in Melbourne by about 5.00 PM in Winter.

I'd therefore prefer to have daylight saving all year round of one hour, and double that in Summer.

Hence, it would not be dark and miserable at 5:00 PM in Winter, but at 6:00 PM instead!  Smiley


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Reply #49 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 6:03pm
 
You're an old man so what difference does it make to you?

Getting down the beach after work and taking the kids for a late surf is the best.
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Reply #50 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 6:07pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 6:00pm:
I'd therefore prefer to have daylight saving all year round of one hour, and double that in Summer.






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Reply #51 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 6:46pm
 

We have voluntary daylight saving here in WA.

If you want daylight saving, you get out of bed earlier, no need for the government holding your hand.

Its the most sensible policy.
Mind you the labor scum tried to force it on us, but the people voted and booted it out.

Daylight saving is a misnomer as well, nothing is saved.
It should be called photon foolishness
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Reply #52 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 8:14pm
 
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Reply #53 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 8:43pm
 
miketrees wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
We have voluntary daylight saving here in WA.

If you want daylight saving, you get out of bed earlier, no need for the government holding your hand.

Its the most sensible policy.
Mind you the labor scum tried to force it on us, but the people voted and booted it out.

Daylight saving is a misnomer as well, nothing is saved.
It should be called photon foolishness


Exactly.

I've been starting work between 6 and 7am for years now.

I'm in sync with my eastern states colleagues, and I'm home by 3pm.

Works great!

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Reply #54 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 9:08pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 12:29pm:
You can understand why Brisbane wouldn't want DLS ... after all, Brisbane is as far to the east of Melbourne as Adelaide is as far to the West of Melbourne. In the bigger states there is a large difference in "real time" from West to East.


I think Gympie is just moments ahead of Brisbane when it comes to complete sunset. I don't see complete sunset in Rockhampton until 7pm (post-September 22nd) -- and 7:30pm December to January. But Brisbane does have an early sunset and an early sunrise. That is why SEQld wants daylight savings. That, and the fact that they want another hour of daylight so that they can go swimming at the beach after work.

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As for me in Melbourne? I would like DLS all year round and double DLS in Summer.  Cool


Pfft! You won't find any takers for daylight savings in winter. No chance of going for a swim at the beach during the coldest months. People also want the sun up as soon as possible (15 degrees higher over the horizon compared to daylight savings time) before they have to start work. Too cold in the morning to have the sun just coming up at 7.
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Reply #55 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 9:24pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 9:08pm:
But Brisbane does have an early sunset and an early sunrise. That is why SEQld wants daylight savings. That, and the fact that they want another hour of daylight so that they can go swimming at the beach after work.


Brisbane is so far east that the sun rises at 4-44am in December. That means that it is starting to get light before 4am. That is insane.

I love 6 months of daylight saving.
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Reply #56 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 9:36pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 9:24pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 9:08pm:
But Brisbane does have an early sunset and an early sunrise. That is why SEQld wants daylight savings. That, and the fact that they want another hour of daylight so that they can go swimming at the beach after work.


Brisbane is so far east that the sun rises at 4-44am in December. That means that it is starting to get light before 4am. That is insane.




Brisbane also received the first sunset due to the angle of the Earth's tilt. The Earth's axis is tilted at 23.5 degrees. This means that the sunset occurs earlier in Brisbane. Sunset occurs in Brisbane 22 minutes before it does in Sydney. Melbourne gets its sunset an hour after Brisbane.
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Reply #57 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 10:08pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8th, 2018 at 10:40am:
Gnads wrote on Oct 8th, 2018 at 10:31am:
DLS debate raises it's ugly head every year in QLD.

2 trials - 2 referendums - twice the vote was "NO".

Accept the umpires decision or move south of the border.


I didn't know they had two referendums.

One was in 1992 - when was the other?

1992 was over a quarter of a century ago, so maybe it's time a new generation had a say on the matter.

Having said that, I'm not a fan of DLS - if they never have another referendum on it, it would suit me fine.

We've had four here in WA, with the last one being in 2009.

That received a 55% 'No' vote.

I'm good with that   Wink

I dread it when DLS arrives, I have NEVER liked it, and I know a lot don't here in Victoria, so why are we not having a current referendum to see if we still want it or not, rather than just keep it going and going???
It's time for a change! I would love for Victoria to have a referendum for the 'now' generations and see what the vote would be.

I would also love to have a summer of normal time, and it's stupid having daylight to 9 pm.  Angry
Both my kids were born in the manipulated DLS time, and I still can't fathom it as a true or correct time of their births.

We need to vote on it whether we still want it or not in Victoria!


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Reply #58 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 3:28pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 6:00pm:
I'm referring to it getting dark and miserable in Melbourne by about 5.00 PM in Winter.

I'd therefore prefer to have daylight saving all year round of one hour, and double that in Summer.

Hence, it would not be dark and miserable at 5:00 PM in Winter, but at 6:00 PM instead!  Smiley




You nong .... you'd be getting up in morning in the dark.

That meme really does apply to you.
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Reply #59 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 3:31pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 9:24pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 9:08pm:
But Brisbane does have an early sunset and an early sunrise. That is why SEQld wants daylight savings. That, and the fact that they want another hour of daylight so that they can go swimming at the beach after work.


Brisbane is so far east that the sun rises at 4-44am in December. That means that it is starting to get light before 4am. That is insane.

I love 6 months of daylight saving.


No it's not ... it's nature & has been doing that for eternity.

You can still lay in when it's getting light or you can use it to exercise or play 9 before work.

It's not dark until after 7pm ... what more do you need?

FAAAAAAAAAAARK DLS.
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