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Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:24am
 
After 25 pages of ducking and weaving in the other thread, Greg has taken to refusing to discuss deaths due to terrorism because it is off topic. So here you go Greg, another thread to enable you to give a straight answer.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 10:42am:
freediver wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 7:52am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 12:32pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 12:18pm:
Greg would you agree that a statistic that equates 9/11 with a single death is likely to be misleading?

Why do you keep posting the statistic if you are afraid to give your own opinion on it?


I'm not discussing deaths.



Why not? Do deaths have nothing to do with terrorism or your "statistics" on terrorism?


Because it's not the subject of this thread.

Open a new one if you have such a morbid fascination.



greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 10:48am:
freediver wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 10:44am:
Are you saying that deaths due to terrorism have nothing to do with terror attacks?


Are you not reading the thread title?


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Reply #1 - Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:36am
 

Are we including fatal graffiti attacks?

I'm curious.
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Reply #2 - Oct 6th, 2018 at 1:28pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:24am:
So here you go Greg, another thread to enable you to give a straight answer.


If you think you can ever get 'a straight answer' out of pessary, you're deluding yourself............why on earth do you think he works for the union members at tribunals............


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Reply #3 - Oct 6th, 2018 at 10:33pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:24am:
So here you go Greg, another thread to enable you to give a straight answer.


If you think you can ever get 'a straight answer' out of pessary, you're deluding yourself............why on earth do you think he works for the union members at tribunals............




Does FD give straight answers, Matty?

Why or why not?
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Reply #4 - Oct 7th, 2018 at 12:36am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:36am:
Are we including fatal graffiti attacks?

I'm curious.


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Reply #5 - Oct 7th, 2018 at 7:58am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 10:33pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:24am:
So here you go Greg, another thread to enable you to give a straight answer.


If you think you can ever get 'a straight answer' out of pessary, you're deluding yourself............why on earth do you think he works for the union members at tribunals............




Does FD give straight answers, Matty?

Why or why not?


You're a fvvking halfwit.....
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Reply #6 - Oct 7th, 2018 at 12:20pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Oct 7th, 2018 at 7:58am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 10:33pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:24am:
So here you go Greg, another thread to enable you to give a straight answer.


If you think you can ever get 'a straight answer' out of pessary, you're deluding yourself............why on earth do you think he works for the union members at tribunals............




Does FD give straight answers, Matty?

Why or why not?


You're a fvvking halfwit.....


Don't want to say, eh?
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Reply #7 - Oct 7th, 2018 at 4:47pm
 
NATIONAL SECURITY HOTLINE 1800 123 400:

Currently, 26 organisations are listed as terrorist organisations under the Criminal Code. They are:

•Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)

•Al-Murabitun

•Al-Qa'ida (AQ)

•Al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP)

•Al-Qa’ida in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS)

•Al-Qa’ida in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM)

•Al-Shabaab

•Boko Haram

•Hamas' Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades

•Hizballah's External Security Organisation (ESO)

•Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan

•Islamic State

•Islamic State East Asia

•Islamic State in Libya (IS-Libya)

•Islamic State Khorasan Province

•Islamic State Sinai Province (IS-Sinai)

•Jabhat al-Nusra

•Jaish-e-Mohammad

•Jama’at Mujahideen Bangladesh

•Jamiat ul-Ansar (JuA)

•Jemaah Anshorut Daulah

•Jemaah Islamiyah (JI)

•Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK)

•Lashkar-e Jhangvi

•Lashkar-e-Tayyiba

•Palestinian Islamic Jihad[/b]


EUROPOL TERRORISM

Terrorism

The overall terrorist threat to the security of the EUremains acute.


The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism and the closely related phenomenon of foreign terrorist fighters who travel to and from conflict zones.

Recent attacks in the EU demonstrate the intent and capability of jihadist terrorists to inflict mass casualties on urban populations in an effort to induce a high state of well-publicised terror.

The carefully planned attacks continue to demonstrate the elevated threat to the EU from an extremist minority, operationally based in the Middle East, combined with a network of people born and raised in the EU, often radicalised within a short space of time, who have proven willing and able to act as facilitators and active accomplices in terrorism.

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism. While there was a large number of terrorist attacks not connected with jihadism, the latter accounts for the most serious forms of terrorist activity as nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


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Reply #8 - Oct 7th, 2018 at 6:37pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 7th, 2018 at 12:36am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:36am:
Are we including fatal graffiti attacks?

I'm curious.


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It was a valid question.

FD claims that graffiti is included in the stats I've posted, yet the Europol report doesn't even mention the word.

Thoughts?
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Reply #9 - Oct 7th, 2018 at 6:48pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 7th, 2018 at 12:20pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Oct 7th, 2018 at 7:58am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 10:33pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:24am:
So here you go Greg, another thread to enable you to give a straight answer.


If you think you can ever get 'a straight answer' out of pessary, you're deluding yourself............why on earth do you think he works for the union members at tribunals............




Does FD give straight answers, Matty?

Why or why not?


You're a fvvking halfwit.....


Don't want to say, eh?

He just did - the last word on you, Paki.

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Reply #10 - Oct 7th, 2018 at 6:56pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 7th, 2018 at 12:36am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:36am:
Are we including fatal graffiti attacks?

I'm curious.


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It was a valid question.

FD claims that graffiti is included in the stats I've posted, yet the Europol report doesn't even mention the word.

Thoughts?


They are in the stats you have posted, but you post different evidence every time you are asked, then run away when people point out to you that it actually proves that Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name. You arguments, and the evidence you present, vary in their levels of idiocy, yet it always passes for stupid.

Greg would you agree that a statistic that equates 9/11 with a single death is likely to be misleading?

Why do you keep posting the statistic if you are afraid to give your own opinion on it?
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Reply #11 - Oct 7th, 2018 at 11:15pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 7th, 2018 at 6:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 7th, 2018 at 12:36am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 11:36am:
Are we including fatal graffiti attacks?

I'm curious.


Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes


It was a valid question.

FD claims that graffiti is included in the stats I've posted, yet the Europol report doesn't even mention the word.

Thoughts?


They are in the stats you have posted, but you post different evidence every time you are asked, then run away when people point out to you that it actually proves that Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name. You arguments, and the evidence you present, vary in their levels of idiocy, yet it always passes for stupid.

Greg would you agree that a statistic that equates 9/11 with a single death is likely to be misleading?

Why do you keep posting the statistic if you are afraid to give your own opinion on it?


Good point, FD. I think we can safely say that you have now proven, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that Whitey's terrorism is just a bit of harmless graffiti.

The Muselman, on the other hand, does terrorism with real death in it. Your ethno-nationalist and white supremacist and silly old anarchist just has a bit of a laugh - what's wrong with that? We all did similar things in our youth.

Don't you listen to Greggery's silly hysterics about evidence of graffiti. You've shown that his figures are full of it. Most of those "security incidents" are a bit of harmless paint or texta. You know, "Kilroy was here" or "here I sit brokenhearted, tried to sht but only farted" or "for a good time, call..."

We've all seen it. I mean, how many of us have seen Whitey blowing and shooting things up?

Ridiculous.
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Reply #12 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:27am
 
Greg do your statistics equate 9/11 style attacks with attacks in which there are no deaths or injuries?
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Reply #13 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 7:33am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:27am:
Greg do your statistics equate 9/11 style attacks with attacks in which there are no deaths or injuries?


FD, do you have an alternative set of statistics?

Why or why not?
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Reply #14 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 3:40pm
 
Jihadist = 16%"

Separatist = 67%"

The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism.

nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


Why are muslims and leftards trying to muddy the waters?

Has Europol got it wrong? I don't think so.

Facts are the major terrorist concern is islamic terrorism.

muslims are responsible for nearly all of the deaths, muslims are responsible for most of the casualties
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Reply #15 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 5:16pm
 
moses wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 3:40pm:
Jihadist = 16%"

Separatist = 67%"

The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism.

nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


Why are muslims and leftards trying to muddy the waters?

Has Europol got it wrong? I don't think so.

Facts are the major terrorist concern is islamic terrorism.

muslims are responsible for nearly all of the deaths, muslims are responsible for most of the casualties
.


Good to see you finally concede the figures, Moses, that's a start.

Your fact about the number of deaths is very relevant. Do you have a figure with the total number?

This will help put into perspective the European states' "concern" over Jihadist attacks. And make no mistake, nobody is minimising this concern. I hear Europeans do worry about their safety.
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Reply #16 - Oct 16th, 2018 at 1:47pm
 
The leftard / muslim tactic at the moment is to use misleading and misrepresentative facts.

Definition of misrepresent
1/. to give a false or misleading representation of usually with an intent to deceive or be unfair

2/. to serve badly or improperly as a representative of

Definition of mislead
1/.to lead in a wrong direction or into a mistaken action or belief often by deliberate deceit

2/. to lead astray : give a wrong impression

The leftard is using his facts which are misleading and misrepresentative.

The leftard is desperate to purposely hide the Europol report which categorically states: 

Europol Terrorism Report:

The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism.

nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


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Reply #17 - Oct 16th, 2018 at 1:50pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 5:16pm:
moses wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 3:40pm:
Jihadist = 16%"

Separatist = 67%"

The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism.

nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


Why are muslims and leftards trying to muddy the waters?

Has Europol got it wrong? I don't think so.

Facts are the major terrorist concern is islamic terrorism.

muslims are responsible for nearly all of the deaths, muslims are responsible for most of the casualties
.


Good to see you finally concede the figures, Moses, that's a start.

Your fact about the number of deaths is very relevant. Do you have a figure with the total number?

This will help put into perspective the European states' "concern" over Jihadist attacks. And make no mistake, nobody is minimising this concern. I hear Europeans do worry about their safety.


Yes, he's finally acknowledged that Jihadists are only responsible for 16% of terrorist attacks in Europe.

It's 16% too much, by the way, but it's certainly not the majority.

Nowhere near it, in fact.

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Reply #19 - Oct 16th, 2018 at 3:04pm
 
Even when I follow Greg's suggestion and start a new thread to ask his opinion on his own statistics, he is still afraid to give it.
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Reply #20 - Oct 16th, 2018 at 5:48pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 3:04pm:
Even when I follow Greg's suggestion and start a new thread to ask his opinion on his own statistics, he is still afraid to give it.


What was your opinion again, FD?

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Reply #21 - Oct 17th, 2018 at 10:02pm
 
I wonder why Europe is saying that muslims are the main terror threat and cause the most deaths and casualties?

Europol Terrorism Report:

The overall terrorist threat to the security of the EU remains acute.

The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism.

nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


Thanks to GP we all now know why they say it.

muslim religious terrorists are the main terror threat in Europe.

muslim religious terrorists slaughter the most people in jihadist terror attacks.

muslim religious terrorists wound the most people in their jihadist terror attacks.
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Reply #22 - Oct 17th, 2018 at 10:17pm
 
Children, children - how many times are you going to deliberately confuse 'terrorist attacks' with 'terrorist incidents'.... graffiti is a 'terrorist incident' - not a 'terrorist attack'...

Grow up and discuss the issue of Islamic* terrorism being the clear and present danger..

* you can't use the term Islamist since Islamism is a sub-set covered by a clear definition ...not all Islamic incidents and attacks are Islamist .... but they are all Islamic.......
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