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Oct 5th, 2018 at 10:54am
 
https://www.fastcompany.com/90244660/welcome-to-new-zealand-now-hand-over-your-p...


Be prepared to hand over your phone and your password. A new customs law says that travelers must not only provide their devices, but also access to them, whether in the form of a password, fingerprint, or face, or risk a $5,000 fine, Radio New Zealand reports. The only silver lining to the law, which is sure to alarm privacy advocates, is that customs officials would need to have a reasonable suspicion of wrongdoing before performing the digital strip search.
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Reply #1 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 10:56am
 
One day we will all learn to love Big Brother.
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Reply #2 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 11:01am
 
When I go on holiday the last thing I want is a bloody mobile phone.
Thay are a gross invasion of privacy IMO because you're expected to answer it and if you don't you get a message..  or they try again.

Better to live like we used to.. without them. Work only.
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Reply #3 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 12:57pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 11:01am:
When I go on holiday the last thing I want is a bloody mobile phone.
Thay are a gross invasion of privacy IMO because you're expected to answer it and if you don't you get a message..  or they try again.

Better to live like we used to.. without them. Work only.


I always take my mobile and laptop on holidays.
Why should Big Brother have the right to invade my privacy?
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Reply #4 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 1:06pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 11:01am:
When I go on holiday the last thing I want is a bloody mobile phone.
Thay are a gross invasion of privacy IMO because you're expected to answer it and if you don't you get a message..  or they try again.

Better to live like we used to.. without them. Work only.


I (generally) don't take electronic devices with me when I go overseas.

I see no need for them.

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Reply #5 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 2:53pm
 
I haven't got a password on mine.....
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Reply #6 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 5:33pm
 
Bobby wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 12:57pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 11:01am:
When I go on holiday the last thing I want is a bloody mobile phone.
Thay are a gross invasion of privacy IMO because you're expected to answer it and if you don't you get a message..  or they try again.

Better to live like we used to.. without them. Work only.


I always take my mobile and laptop on holidays.
Why should Big Brother have the right to invade my privacy?



They don't. I do not agree with it at all. I tell them nothing.

They are an illigal organisation tbh. It's just that we concede to their demands. If every human united and faught back then maybe we wouldn't have to disclose our private lives to them. That was the whole idea of the "smart" phone.
There was outrage at micro chipping humans but give them a smart phone and they will pay to be watched....monthly.  Grin
We are stupid.
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Reply #7 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 5:34pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 2:53pm:
I haven't got a password on mine.....



Me either.
I have a pattern to draw but that is only because the bloody thing would pocket dial all the time.
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Reply #8 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 6:39pm
 
Simple
Take out the SIM card and the memory card.
Hide them, they are small enough to hide
Hand over the empty phone and say "go for it"

If this little exercise gets by in Noozuland, it will soon find it's way into every airport in the world.

I'm ensuring from now on, that all my data is on a memory card.
I will hide that card and they can go for all they are worth.

All this "security" is for our own good, isn't it.

It's because the murderous CULT of DEATH  has been allowed to spread throughout the world

The conspiracy theorist in me thinks this is all part of the grubberments plan.

Introduce a disease
Then place draconian measures in place to fight the introduced disease.
It's just a happy quinkydink that these draconian measures is what the grubberments of the world have been praying for.

With every tool these tools come up with
There is a way to beat it.
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Reply #9 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 6:43pm
 
Just had a wonderful thought

I'm cracking up just thinking about it

I'm going to leave my memory card, or at least a memory card in the phone.

I'm going to generate several hundred folders
In each folder I'm going to put hundreds of pictures
Each picture will be exactly the same

A cartoon of a sheep being defiled by a noozoolund  border control officer.
With a caption
"MAKING MORE BORDER CONTROL OFFICERS"

What fun.
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Reply #10 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:06pm
 
Valkie wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 6:43pm:
Just had a wonderful thought

I'm cracking up just thinking about it

I'm going to leave my memory card, or at least a memory card in the phone.

I'm going to generate several hundred folders
In each folder I'm going to put hundreds of pictures
Each picture will be exactly the same

A cartoon of a sheep being defiled by a noozoolund  border control officer.
With a caption
"MAKING MORE BORDER CONTROL OFFICERS"

What fun.



That's funny -  Grin

But Valkie - one day you will learn to love Big Brother.
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Reply #11 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:20pm
 
Valkie wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 6:43pm:
Just had a wonderful thought

I'm cracking up just thinking about it

I'm going to leave my memory card, or at least a memory card in the phone.

I'm going to generate several hundred folders
In each folder I'm going to put hundreds of pictures
Each picture will be exactly the same

A cartoon of a sheep being defiled by a noozoolund  border control officer.
With a caption
"MAKING MORE BORDER CONTROL OFFICERS"

What fun.



Hehe. That is cool.




More laws.
We beg for more laws.
Please protect me from......well.......you and your operatives.  Grin
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Reply #12 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:32pm
 
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/travellers-refusing-hand-over-phone-...


Council for Civil Liberties spokesperson Thomas Beagle said the law was an unjustified invasion of privacy.


"Nowadays we've got everything on our phones; we've got all our personal life, all our doctors' records, our emails, absolutely everything on it, and customs can take that and keep it."

The new requirement for reasonable suspicion did not rein in the law at all, Mr Beagle said.

"They don't have to tell you what the cause of that suspicion is, there's no way to challenge it."

Customs Minister Kris Faafoi said the power to search electronic devices was necessary.

"A lot of the organised crime groups are becoming a lot more sophisticated in the ways they're trying to get things across the border.

"And if we do think they're up to that kind of business, then getting intelligence from smartphones and computers can be useful for a prosecution."

But Mr Beagle said "serious criminals" would simply store incriminating material online.

"You'd be mad to carry stuff over on your phone.

Privacy Commissioner John Edwards had some influence over the drafting of the legislation and said he was "pretty comfortable" with where the law stood.

"There's a good balance between ensuring that our borders are protected ... and [that people] are not subject to unreasonable search of their devices."

"You know when you come into the country that you can be asked to open your suitcase and that a Customs officer can look at everything in there."

Border officials searched roughly 540 electronic devices at New Zealand airports in 2017.

Customs will be required to keep Parliament updated on the number of devices searched every year. The agency said it did not expect the number to increase.

Craig McCulloch

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Reply #13 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:51pm
 
Bobby wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:06pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 6:43pm:
Just had a wonderful thought

I'm cracking up just thinking about it

I'm going to leave my memory card, or at least a memory card in the phone.

I'm going to generate several hundred folders
In each folder I'm going to put hundreds of pictures
Each picture will be exactly the same

A cartoon of a sheep being defiled by a noozoolund  border control officer.
With a caption
"MAKING MORE BORDER CONTROL OFFICERS"

What fun.



That's funny -  Grin

But Valkie - one day you will learn to love Big Brother.


George was an optimist.

He had no idea exactly how bad it would get.
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Reply #14 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:55pm
 
Valkie wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:51pm:
Bobby wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:06pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 6:43pm:
Just had a wonderful thought

I'm cracking up just thinking about it

I'm going to leave my memory card, or at least a memory card in the phone.

I'm going to generate several hundred folders
In each folder I'm going to put hundreds of pictures
Each picture will be exactly the same

A cartoon of a sheep being defiled by a noozoolund  border control officer.
With a caption
"MAKING MORE BORDER CONTROL OFFICERS"

What fun.



That's funny -  Grin

But Valkie - one day you will learn to love Big Brother.


George was an optimist.

He had no idea exactly how bad it would get.




It's already far worse than George Orwell's 1984.

We can blame Muslims for it.
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