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Reply #75 - Oct 6th, 2018 at 12:17pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:35pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 5:40pm:
Australia is full of guns. Even I have a gun. It's easy to get a licence . You have to join a gun club and then you can buy guns like going to the supermarket.


Except you cannot give "self defence" as the reason on your license application, Hammer.

Nor can you purchase semi-automatic long-arms or pump-action shotguns.

You are limited to bolt-action, lever-action and pump-action long-arms or single/double barreled shotguns, more or less plus of course various pistol actions.

You are also required to regularly attend your firearms club's meetings/range shoots.



The ban on pump action shot guns is just ridiculous.

It is no different an operation to a bolt action repeater or pump action rim/centre fire long rifle.

They were very handy in scrub for pig hunting at close quarters.

All rifles can be sawn off for illegal purposes.
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Reply #76 - Oct 6th, 2018 at 12:21pm
 
Greggerypeaccary -"In Australia, homicide has decreased by nine percent since 1990."

I thought you were only talking gun deaths? That suggests you are talking all homicides. Wink
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Reply #77 - Oct 6th, 2018 at 12:23pm
 
lee wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 12:21pm:
Greggerypeaccary -"In Australia, homicide has decreased by nine percent since 1990."

I thought you were only talking gun deaths? That suggests you are talking all homicides. Wink



He changes the point of the OP to suit his responses more times than he changes his underpants.
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Reply #78 - Oct 6th, 2018 at 2:36pm
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 12:23pm:
lee wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 12:21pm:
Greggerypeaccary -"In Australia, homicide has decreased by nine percent since 1990."

I thought you were only talking gun deaths? That suggests you are talking all homicides. Wink



He changes the point of the OP to suit his responses more times than he changes his underpants.


It's a waste of time and effort to argue with the
Lying deceitful troll

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Coward, lying, reneging,  deceitful troll It is

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Re: Note to Australians.. Hold onto your Guns...
Reply #79 - Oct 6th, 2018 at 2:40pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 11:52pm:
Cu Chullain wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
lee wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 10:13pm:
Northern Ireland is part of Great Britain. All Northern Ireland police officers carry  firearms. The majority of police officers in the rest of Great Britain don't routinely carry firearms.

"Police leaders have discussed frontline constables carrying guns amid concerns it would take too long for fully trained armed officers to reach an attack in rural areas, a police chief has said.

Simon Chesterman, the national lead for armed policing, said the routine arming of regular officers remained an option given an elevated terror threat to Britain that security officials believe is here to stay, with 12 terrorist murder plots known about in the last year."

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/17/uk-police-chiefs-discuss-officer...



11 of them not related to Islam? Just asking.




Just joking - I know....

Just watched a movie called 'Closed Circuit' - Eric Bana in a Brit film - not bad and tight scripting as expected in a good Brit film about security services and such - quite a few shots had a cop in kevlar jacket and armed with an HK .... just walking the beat...

That's what it's become.  Look at the response time for the bridge attack.... you don't exactly have unarmed officers walking the beat for a reaction time of seven minutes.

I'm writing a short story called 'London' - it takes 22 SAS an hour (plus) to get from Hereford to London in a crisis and that's with a stand-by team ready to go ... the amount of readiness involved and cost is astronomical...


Except the SASR in the UK now has readiness teams available in London and other major cities which are ready to respond within 15-30 minutes, Grapps.  The Hereford Gun Club can respond more quickly than you give them credit for.

This is of course, after the Police response teams have responded within minutes (I believe the current record is under 5 minutes in London).   Admittedly, the Police sometimes shoot the wrong person (ie the Brazilian electrician on the Tube after the Tube Bombings) but they are getting better at figuring out who the bad guys are.    Roll Eyes

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Re: Note to Australians.. Hold onto your Guns...
Reply #80 - Oct 6th, 2018 at 4:25pm
 
Valkie wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 2:36pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 12:23pm:
lee wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 12:21pm:
Greggerypeaccary -"In Australia, homicide has decreased by nine percent since 1990."

I thought you were only talking gun deaths? That suggests you are talking all homicides. Wink



He changes the point of the OP to suit his responses more times than he changes his underpants.


It's a waste of time and effort to argue with the
Lying deceitful troll

Backs down who her than a muzzo when confronted with equal numbers.

Coward, lying, reneging,  deceitful troll It is

Wish ist would do us all favor and honor it's promise to leave


Tell us again how there were no mass murders back in your great grandparents' day, Valkie.

I need a good laugh   Smiley
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Reply #81 - Oct 6th, 2018 at 5:31pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 4:25pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 2:36pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 12:23pm:
lee wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 12:21pm:
Greggerypeaccary -"In Australia, homicide has decreased by nine percent since 1990."

I thought you were only talking gun deaths? That suggests you are talking all homicides. Wink



He changes the point of the OP to suit his responses more times than he changes his underpants.


It's a waste of time and effort to argue with the
Lying deceitful troll

Backs down who her than a muzzo when confronted with equal numbers.

Coward, lying, reneging,  deceitful troll It is

Wish ist would do us all favor and honor it's promise to leave


Tell us again how there were no mass murders back in your great grandparents' day, Valkie.

I need a good laugh   Smiley


Your needs are irrelevant

you're laughable.  Roll Eyes
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Re: Note to Australians.. Hold onto your Guns...
Reply #82 - Oct 6th, 2018 at 6:28pm
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 5:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 4:25pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 2:36pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 12:23pm:
lee wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 12:21pm:
Greggerypeaccary -"In Australia, homicide has decreased by nine percent since 1990."

I thought you were only talking gun deaths? That suggests you are talking all homicides. Wink



He changes the point of the OP to suit his responses more times than he changes his underpants.


It's a waste of time and effort to argue with the
Lying deceitful troll

Backs down who her than a muzzo when confronted with equal numbers.

Coward, lying, reneging,  deceitful troll It is

Wish ist would do us all favor and honor it's promise to leave


Tell us again how there were no mass murders back in your great grandparents' day, Valkie.

I need a good laugh   Smiley


Your needs are irrelevant

you're laughable.  Roll Eyes


So are Valkie's stories from the good old days   Smiley
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Reply #83 - Oct 6th, 2018 at 7:51pm
 
I wonder when turd mc turdface will HONOR it's bet to leave the forum?

I wonder if turd mc turdface will ever honor it's bet with me?

I wonder if turd mc turdface will ever do anything that isn't trollish, lying, deceitful or disrespectful?

I would hazard that the answer to all the above is NEVER
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Re: Note to Australians.. Hold onto your Guns...
Reply #84 - Oct 7th, 2018 at 12:31am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 2:40pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 11:52pm:
Cu Chullain wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
lee wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 10:13pm:
Northern Ireland is part of Great Britain. All Northern Ireland police officers carry  firearms. The majority of police officers in the rest of Great Britain don't routinely carry firearms.

"Police leaders have discussed frontline constables carrying guns amid concerns it would take too long for fully trained armed officers to reach an attack in rural areas, a police chief has said.

Simon Chesterman, the national lead for armed policing, said the routine arming of regular officers remained an option given an elevated terror threat to Britain that security officials believe is here to stay, with 12 terrorist murder plots known about in the last year."

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/17/uk-police-chiefs-discuss-officer...



11 of them not related to Islam? Just asking.




Just joking - I know....

Just watched a movie called 'Closed Circuit' - Eric Bana in a Brit film - not bad and tight scripting as expected in a good Brit film about security services and such - quite a few shots had a cop in kevlar jacket and armed with an HK .... just walking the beat...

That's what it's become.  Look at the response time for the bridge attack.... you don't exactly have unarmed officers walking the beat for a reaction time of seven minutes.

I'm writing a short story called 'London' - it takes 22 SAS an hour (plus) to get from Hereford to London in a crisis and that's with a stand-by team ready to go ... the amount of readiness involved and cost is astronomical...


Except the SASR in the UK now has readiness teams available in London and other major cities which are ready to respond within 15-30 minutes, Grapps.  The Hereford Gun Club can respond more quickly than you give them credit for.

This is of course, after the Police response teams have responded within minutes (I believe the current record is under 5 minutes in London).   Admittedly, the Police sometimes shoot the wrong person (ie the Brazilian electrician on the Tube after the Tube Bombings) but they are getting better at figuring out who the bad guys are.    Roll Eyes




Part of that is covered in my liaison officer character, stuck in London as a go-between when he wants to go operational all the way...... not going into it too much...

With a Squirrel or two they can get from Hereford to Londinium pretty quick - as long as the engines are pre-heated.... but by automobile it's a bit tedious... and please - no 'SASR' - it's simply 'The Regiment' in Britain... SASR is for the colonials....

Anyway - that level of readiness, including choppers on five minutes standby - is very expensive.
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Reply #85 - Oct 7th, 2018 at 1:48pm
 
Captain Caveman your non de plume says it all. God protect this Country from ignorant illiterate Dinosaurs such as you

Met plenty of your kind in the Police, morons with guns and the stupifying mentality that they knew when and how to use them

Thank God thousands of those guns have been removed from the hands of troglodytes  such as you
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Reply #86 - Oct 7th, 2018 at 2:51pm
 
red baron wrote on Oct 7th, 2018 at 1:48pm:
Captain Caveman your non de plume says it all. God protect this Country from ignorant illiterate Dinosaurs such as you

Met plenty of your kind in the Police, morons with guns and the stupifying mentality that they knew when and how to use them

Thank God thousands of those guns have been removed from the hands of troglodytes  such as you



Ahh. You're an ex copper.
Explains it all.  Wink

Thousands removed and redistributed back on the streets for a quick $, thanks to the dirty cops.....

Oh....and picking on my illiteracy says a lot about you too.
Bet you wouldn't do it to my face. I've had plenty of experience with people like you......on the street.
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Reply #87 - Oct 7th, 2018 at 2:53pm
 
red baron wrote on Oct 7th, 2018 at 1:48pm:
Captain Caveman your non de plume says it all. God protect this Country from ignorant illiterate Dinosaurs such as you

Met plenty of your kind in the Police, morons with guns and the stupifying mentality that they knew when and how to use them

Thank God thousands of those guns have been removed from the hands of troglodytes  such as you


It take it that's a generalisation & includes a % of coppers as well?
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Reply #88 - Oct 7th, 2018 at 4:17pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Oct 7th, 2018 at 12:31am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 2:40pm:
Except the SASR in the UK now has readiness teams available in London and other major cities which are ready to respond within 15-30 minutes, Grapps.  The Hereford Gun Club can respond more quickly than you give them credit for.

This is of course, after the Police response teams have responded within minutes (I believe the current record is under 5 minutes in London).   Admittedly, the Police sometimes shoot the wrong person (ie the Brazilian electrician on the Tube after the Tube Bombings) but they are getting better at figuring out who the bad guys are.    Roll Eyes




Part of that is covered in my liaison officer character, stuck in London as a go-between when he wants to go operational all the way...... not going into it too much...

With a Squirrel or two they can get from Hereford to Londinium pretty quick - as long as the engines are pre-heated.... but by automobile it's a bit tedious... and please - no 'SASR' - it's simply 'The Regiment' in Britain... SASR is for the colonials....

Anyway - that level of readiness, including choppers on five minutes standby - is very expensive.


Sometimes I think the SASR considers itself superhuman.  They tend to actually believe what the media types about them.  That is, until they next stuff up so badly that not only do their victims targets end up dead but some of their own fellows have their own names entered onto the lists on the clock tower.  A 15-30 minute response time from scratch is actually damned good by most military forces standards.
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Re: Note to Australians.. Hold onto your Guns...
Reply #89 - Oct 7th, 2018 at 6:45pm
 
red baron wrote on Oct 7th, 2018 at 1:48pm:
Captain Caveman your non de plume says it all. God protect this Country from ignorant illiterate Dinosaurs such as you

Met plenty of your kind in the Police, morons with guns and the stupifying mentality that they knew when and how to use them

Thank God thousands of those guns have been removed from the hands of troglodytes  such as you


Nice post, red.

Every now and then you come up with a beauty.

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