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Reply #45 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:47pm
 
Valkie wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 6:30pm:
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   SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!

SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.

SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!

IT'S A NO BRAINER!   



Funny how none of the pro gun law lobby ever consider this simple fact.

I have pictures of my various great grandparents camping in the bush
They all have guns, as did most Australians back then
With so many guns, isn't it amazing that mass murder didn't happen?

Probably because they were taught to use them and respect them.


Mmm, interesting though that all such persons are trained in the use of the firearms. It's not like what you and Yadda want: just to dole out guns like candy to any 'good and decent' citizen?

Tell me: do you support compulsory military service?
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Reply #46 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:48pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:30pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 6:30pm:
Yh Quote:
   SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!

SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.

SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!

IT'S A NO BRAINER!   



Funny how none of the pro gun law lobby ever consider this simple fact.

I have pictures of my various great grandparents camping in the bush
They all have guns, as did most Australians back then
With so many guns, isn't it amazing that mass murder didn't happen?

Probably because they were taught to use them and respect them.


Apart from the numerous mass murders of indigenous Australians, you mean?



I've told you before bwyannnnn turf mc turdface
None of my family or myself have ever harmed any abbos, ever.


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Reply #47 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:55pm
 
Valkie wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:30pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 6:30pm:
Yh Quote:
   SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!

SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.

SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!

IT'S A NO BRAINER!   



Funny how none of the pro gun law lobby ever consider this simple fact.

I have pictures of my various great grandparents camping in the bush
They all have guns, as did most Australians back then
With so many guns, isn't it amazing that mass murder didn't happen?

Probably because they were taught to use them and respect them.


Apart from the numerous mass murders of indigenous Australians, you mean?



I've told you before bwyannnnn turf mc turdface
None of my family or myself have ever harmed any abbos, ever.


I'm not accusing you or your family of anything.

However, you talked about many other Australians when you said:

"... as did most Australians back then. With so many guns, isn't it amazing that mass murder didn't happen?"

And, I'm pointing out to you that mass murder did happen back then.

Thousands of indigenous Australians were massacred by white men with guns.

Were you not aware of this?



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Reply #48 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 8:04pm
 
And many whites were in turn murdered by abbos.

The past is the past

My family is only 4 or 5 generations Australian
We have had nothing to do with any murder.

Perhaps you would like to peruse me over my Norman or Roman ancestry?
If we go back far enough, someone somewhere in the distant past may have been killed by one of my ancestors.

But this is how stupid this argument gets.
Anyone can state this or that because they have a chip on their victim shoulder.
But until this hatred stops, it will continue to propagate and be returned.

Tell me I'm a racist often enough
And I'll start to believe you and live up to it.
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Reply #49 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 8:13pm
 
Valkie wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 8:04pm:
And many whites were in turn murdered by abbos.

The past is the past

My family is only 4 or 5 generations Australian
We have had nothing to do with any murder.

Perhaps you would like to peruse me over my Norman or Roman ancestry?
If we go back far enough, someone somewhere in the distant past may have been killed by one of my ancestors.

But this is how stupid this argument gets.
Anyone can state this or that because they have a chip on their victim shoulder.
But until this hatred stops, it will continue to propagate and be returned.

Tell me I'm a racist often enough
And I'll start to believe you and live up to it.


A minute ago, you said there were no mass murders.

No you admit that there actually were.

At least you're man enough to admit when you are wrong.

Cheers   Wink
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Re: Note to Australians.. Hold onto your Guns...
Reply #50 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 8:16pm
 
Valkie wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 6:30pm:
Yh Quote:
   SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!

SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.

SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!

IT'S A NO BRAINER!   



Funny how none of the pro gun law lobby ever consider this simple fact.

I have pictures of my various great grandparents camping in the bush
They all have guns, as did most Australians back then
With so many guns, isn't it amazing that mass murder didn't happen?

Probably because they were taught to use them and respect them.




I'd like one of these to protect myself from Muslims:


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Reply #51 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 8:20pm
 
Bobby wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 8:16pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 6:30pm:
Yh Quote:
   SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!

SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.

SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!

IT'S A NO BRAINER!   



Funny how none of the pro gun law lobby ever consider this simple fact.

I have pictures of my various great grandparents camping in the bush
They all have guns, as did most Australians back then
With so many guns, isn't it amazing that mass murder didn't happen?

Probably because they were taught to use them and respect them.




I'd like one of these to protect myself from Muslims:




This is more your style, Princess Gobby:


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Reply #52 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:00pm
 
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  A minute ago, you said there were no mass murders.

No you admit that there actually were.

At least you're man enough to admit when you are wrong.   



I give up
You are a lost cause

You have really lost it since i owned you

Go get some therapy turd mc turdface

Or better still

Honor You bet and leave the forum
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A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
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Reply #53 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:17pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:55pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:30pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 6:30pm:
Yh Quote:
   SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!

SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.

SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!

IT'S A NO BRAINER!   



Funny how none of the pro gun law lobby ever consider this simple fact.

I have pictures of my various great grandparents camping in the bush
They all have guns, as did most Australians back then
With so many guns, isn't it amazing that mass murder didn't happen?

Probably because they were taught to use them and respect them.


Apart from the numerous mass murders of indigenous Australians, you mean?



I've told you before bwyannnnn turf mc turdface
None of my family or myself have ever harmed any abbos, ever.


I'm not accusing you or your family of anything.

However, you talked about many other Australians when you said:

"... as did most Australians back then. With so many guns, isn't it amazing that mass murder didn't happen?"

And, I'm pointing out to you that mass murder did happen back then.

Thousands of indigenous Australians were massacred by white men with guns.

Were you not aware of this?


Were they police, soldiers or parties put together by them?
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Reply #54 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:39pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
Show us all, the parallel between Australia, Switzerland, and the United States, as it applies to firearms.

Switzerland is a tiny, fabulously weathy, naturally defended, and socially cohesive mountain state. It has no social pressures.

The United States, built on social pressures, challenged and surpassed Europe during the industrial revolution. Australia was a tiny sheep raising backwater with no industry or influence on world affairs. It had no social pressures and no armed and warlike native tribes.

Gun violence in Australia during the 19th century was restricted to the use of primitive, antiquated, and obscelete cast off weapons from Europe and the USA. In surpassing Europe, the USA found itself in the most violent of circumstances, while being at the forefront of weapons design and manufacture. Its criminals and even its native tribes drew upon that industry.

And from that situation they have today, a society that is steeped in gun violence, and the paranoia that a proportion of the citizens believe the Democrats might try to take their guns away.
There is no comparison between Switzerland, the United States, and Australia. We have reasonable gun laws, and the American Democrats are not demanding anything more.

As for Australia, if we loosen gun laws, like the good old days that some people yurn for, just remember that we now legally  harbour people who would attack our institutions and ourselves. The idea that an armed populace will be able to counter such attacks, is completely irrational, and shows no understanding of society and history.



And who's brilliant idea was it to harbour these mongrels?

Do I have the right to defend myself against these individuals or am I supposed to let them do as they please and wish them well when they're finished?
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Reply #55 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:43pm
 
Cu Chullain wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:17pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:55pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:30pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 6:30pm:
Yh Quote:
   SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!

SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.

SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!

IT'S A NO BRAINER!   



Funny how none of the pro gun law lobby ever consider this simple fact.

I have pictures of my various great grandparents camping in the bush
They all have guns, as did most Australians back then
With so many guns, isn't it amazing that mass murder didn't happen?

Probably because they were taught to use them and respect them.


Apart from the numerous mass murders of indigenous Australians, you mean?



I've told you before bwyannnnn turf mc turdface
None of my family or myself have ever harmed any abbos, ever.


I'm not accusing you or your family of anything.

However, you talked about many other Australians when you said:

"... as did most Australians back then. With so many guns, isn't it amazing that mass murder didn't happen?"

And, I'm pointing out to you that mass murder did happen back then.

Thousands of indigenous Australians were massacred by white men with guns.

Were you not aware of this?


Were they police, soldiers or parties put together by them?


Whalers, shipwreck survivors, shepherds, British colonists (led by Governor Stirling), mounted police, white settlers, Charles Hutton, law enforcement, etc.

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Reply #56 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:52pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:43pm:
Cu Chullain wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:17pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:55pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:30pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 6:30pm:
Yh Quote:
   SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!

SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.

SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!

IT'S A NO BRAINER!   



Funny how none of the pro gun law lobby ever consider this simple fact.

I have pictures of my various great grandparents camping in the bush
They all have guns, as did most Australians back then
With so many guns, isn't it amazing that mass murder didn't happen?

Probably because they were taught to use them and respect them.


Apart from the numerous mass murders of indigenous Australians, you mean?



I've told you before bwyannnnn turf mc turdface
None of my family or myself have ever harmed any abbos, ever.


I'm not accusing you or your family of anything.

However, you talked about many other Australians when you said:

"... as did most Australians back then. With so many guns, isn't it amazing that mass murder didn't happen?"

And, I'm pointing out to you that mass murder did happen back then.

Thousands of indigenous Australians were massacred by white men with guns.

Were you not aware of this?


Were they police, soldiers or parties put together by them?


Whalers, shipwreck survivors, shepherds, British colonists (led by Governor Stirling), mounted police, white settlers, Charles Hutton, law enforcement, etc.



Ah, so police, law enforcement, troopers, farmers and those deputised by govt cannot be trusted with firearms either?
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Reply #57 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:56pm
 
Cu Chullain wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:52pm:
Ah, so police, law enforcement, troopers, farmers and those deputised by govt cannot be trusted with firearms either?




British cops take on armed man without using firearms:


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Reply #58 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 10:01pm
 
Bobby wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:56pm:
Cu Chullain wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:52pm:
Ah, so police, law enforcement, troopers, farmers and those deputised by govt cannot be trusted with firearms either?




British cops take on armed man without using firearms:




Nothing to do with my point Bobby.
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Reply #59 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 10:04pm
 
Cu Chullain wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 10:01pm:
Nothing to do with my point Bobby.



Yes it does -

the Govt. in Britain obviously doesn't trust its cops with guns.
Neither does the  New Zealand. Govt.
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