Every 'Aussie' follower of ISLAM,      was a latent ISLAMIC terrorist yesterday,
and every 'Aussie' follower of ISLAM,                  today, is still a latent ISLAMIC terrorist,       just waiting for the most 'appropriate moment', to prove his religious 'devotion' to Allah.


UNDERSTAND;
Every 'moslem',         is self-declaring, as a follower of ISLAM.




The Koran      plainly      commands the followers of ISLAM, that it is their religious duty to harbour "enmity and hatred for ever" towards disbelievers "unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"
e.g. Koran 60:4

The Koran plainly commands the followers of ISLAM, that it is their religious duty, "for the Cause of Allah", to participate fighting, to kill disbelievers [or, to support those who do fight]
e.g. Koran 9.29, Koran 9.123, Koran 9.111


Google;

- ISLAMIC scripture, urging the believer to join the fight


The Koran plainly commands the followers of ISLAM, that it is    A CAPITAL CRIME    to love anyone,
who is a disbeliever.   "...Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
e.g. Koran 58.22, Koran 9.23, Koran 5.51, Koran 48.29



IMAGE.....





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WITNESS, the good 'Aussie' moslems,
who are,     behind closed doors,
teaching their children how to 'practice' ISLAM.....


Quote:
- 'Aussie' moslem child, being taught 'how to practice ISLAM', in Australia.


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  -------- >   goto 43 sec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E







@ 1 min 35 sec in that YT....
[An 'Aussie' moslem, Bilal Merhi, addressing 200,000 followers of ISLAM, in Indonesia....

Quote:




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ARGUMENT;
IMO, people like Bilal Merhi, should be kicked out of Australia, or should be in 'internment' [administrative detention], PERMANENTLY [with an option to voluntarily leave Australia].

Why so ?

Because people like Bilal Merhi, are actively working for a foreign nation, a foreign entity,
in order to overthrow the sovereignty    AND THE PEACE    of every Australian.

It is indisputable, that many, many followers of ISLAM, who are living among us, here in Australia, have publicly declared their allegiance,
to that hostile, foreign political entity.

And many, many followers of ISLAM have declared their     overriding allegiance      to ISLAM, and to ISLAM's laws and to ISLAM's precepts and values.
[values which are incompatible with any form of pluralism !!! ]



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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1517662538/0#0
Quote:




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Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1522634108/1#1
Quote:

Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1409991405/8#8
Quote:

moses wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 1:46pm:



jingoism = = extreme patriotism, especially in the form of aggressive or warlike foreign policy.




moses,

And being a devout moslem is the opposite of jingoism.       





That is the parameter which is set, in mainstream ISLAMIC law, for justifying murder.



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"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

IMAGE....



http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1525612158/0#0

Yadda wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 9:16am:


I'm wondering Yadda, under your proposal what would come of my 3 year old daughter - this 'latent wannabe terrorist'? This ticking time bomb? Would you lock up all the infants and toddlers, or perhaps you have in mind another "stolen generation" program, to rip these still salvagable children from their parents arms and bring them up as good Christians? I mean you could institute a whole range of programs to teach them how evil their parents are, and how its good and proper to lock up such evil people.

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2018 at 3:28pm:


gandalf,

Perhaps we infidels could be guided by the advice of those who are the followers ISLAM ?

Not that we, would stoop, to kill your moslem children gandalf.






ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb.






And a moslem cleric offers a moral justification for the slaughter of [civilian] children, during "Jihad operations" conducted by moslems.

And remember, [as per the instruction of Allah] the whole earth belongs to the moslem...


Quote:


.....those are the words of a moslem cleric, explaining that it is the non-moslems who are always to blame, when non-moslem children [in this case, Jewish children in occupied 'Palestinian'] are killed in "Jihad operations" by moslems.

Google;



You see...... if infidels wish to avoid the deaths of innocent infidel women and children in battle,
then the infidels should surrender themselves, to the armies of ISLAM.



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MORE, FROM AN ISLAMIC JURISPRUDENCE EXPERT



The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh Abdel Aziz al-Sheikh is the ISLAMIC equivalent of 'The Archbishop of Canterbury', in Saudi Arabia.

And this is what he had to say about the use of force, to spread ISLAM...

Quote:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20460114-601,00.html


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20460114-601,00.html
if the above is a dead link

Google;
"THE THIRD OPTION OF VIOLENCE AGAINST NON-MUSLIMS"

Google;
"Creed of the sword" Durie

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2018 at 3:21pm:








It is a pejorative term/word.

But moslems [and their apologists],            would have you believe, would have you accept,
that the term should only apply to those people who would dare to point to the wrongdoing and the violent bigotry of ISLAM and its followers, themselves.

Anyone who points to the violent bigotry of ISLAM and its followers,     is the real bigot, you see.

Thereby, nullifying any wrongdoing on the part of ISLAM and its followers.




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IMAGE...



THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST, 2006, IN LONDON READ.....

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1
Quote:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2018 at 3:28pm:



I would hope that the children [those under say, 14 years of age] of the followers of ISLAM, would stay with their female parent or close female relative, while in administrative detention.

[males and females being wholly and completely separated, while being held in administrative detention.]

All family members, having an option to voluntarily leave Australia.

They could go, and migrate to Saudi Arabia, or to some other moslem majority paradise.

A place, a nation, where they wouldn't be continually 'unfairly' 'persecuted',    within an infidel majority nation.




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Apologies in advance, for the '5 pages' which follow.....



Moslems are a perpetually disaffected, belligerent, and unhappy people.

QUESTION;
Why is that so ?




Just think about a few circumstances;



Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem

Hindus living with Christians = No Problem

Hindus living with Jews = No Problem

Christians living with Shintos = No Problem

Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem

Confusians living with Baha'is = No Problem

Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem

Jews living with Atheists = No Problem

Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem

Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem

Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem

Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem

Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem

Christians living with Jews = No Problem

Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem

Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem

Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem

Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem

Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem




BUT, EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD;

Moslems living with Hindus = Problem

Moslems living with Buddhists = Problem

Moslems living with Christians = Problem

Moslems living with Jews = Problem

Moslems living with Sikhs = Problem

Moslems living with Baha'is = Problem

Moslems living with Shintos = Problem

Moslems living with Atheists = Problem



And moslems living with moslems = =

i.e.
Wherever we see large numbers of moslems 'congregate' together with the intention to form 'mutually beneficial' society, almost without exception, we see that moslem majority societies are nests of oppression, depravity, corruption, violence, injustice, and human poverty.


e.g.

Moslems are not happy, in Gaza

Moslems are not happy, in Egypt

Moslems are not happy, in Libya

Moslems are not happy, in Morocco

Moslems are not happy, in Iran

Moslems are not happy, in Turkey

Moslems are not happy, in Jordan

Moslems are not happy, in Iraq

Moslems are not happy, in Yemen

Moslems are not happy, in Afghanistan

Moslems are not happy, in Pakistan

Moslems are not happy, in Syria

Moslems are not happy, in Somalia

Moslems are not happy, in Tunisia

Moslems are not happy, in Lebanon

Moslems are not happy, in Nigeria

Moslems are not happy, in Kenya

Moslems are not happy, in Sudan


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So, where are moslems happy?

i.e.

Where does 'the moslem' [who wishes to emigrate from his moslem majority homeland], seek travel to, to seek to live ?


Well;

Moslems want to live in secular Australia

Moslems want to live in secular England

Moslems want to live in secular Belgium

Moslems want to live in secular France

Moslems want to live in secular Italy

Moslems want to live in secular Germany

Moslems want to live in secular Sweden

Moslems want to live in secular USA

Moslems want to live in secular Norway

Moslems want to live in secular Canada





QUESTION;
WHAT CAN WE CONCLUDE FROM THESE COMMON CIRCUMSTANCES ?

ANSWER;
AN EXAMINATION OF CIRCUMSTANCE, WOULD SUGGEST, THAT;

A majority of those moslems [who are currently living in a moslem majority country], would prefer to live in almost any [other] country, so long as that [other] country was not a moslem majority country!





BUT WE ALSO SEE A STRANGE AND DESTRUCTIVE DESIRE EXPRESSED BY MANY MOSLEMS WITHIN ALMOST ALL 'GUEST' MOSLEM COMMUNITIES, WITHIN SECULAR NATIONS;

Whenever moslems come to live in secular nations [because the moslem found their own moslem majority homeland, under the influence of ISLAM, to be an intolerable place to live!], moslem immigrants, invariably, express a desire to change the secular nation that they have come to live in, to be like the homeland that they came from !

Even though moslems often, have fled their homeland, because it was a nation [under the influence of ISLAM] where their lives were desperately unhappy or unsafe !

issuevoter wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 1:37pm:




issue,

I would argue that my arguments do not rely, in any sense, upon a 'police-state' response against ISLAM, in Australia.


Rather, lawful action against the moslem community in Australia is called for,
based upon 1/ sound reason and 2/ a requirement for action, in existing standing law.




Reason.

It can easily be proven [to any reasonable person], that ISLAM is a violent, deceitful, predatory, and supremacist philosophy.


EVIDENCE.
1/ Read about the promotion of violent religious bigotry within [mainstream] ISLAMIC religious texts,
2/ listen to those more candid spokesmen for ISLAM, promoting violence and mayhem against disbelievers, and against the peoples of disbelieving nations.


EXAMPLE;

Quote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1550211/Cleric-preaches-that-violence-is-...



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Law.

ISLAM and members of the moslem community have often be seen, promoting active sedition [promotion of, and calls for, overthrowing of the [secular] lawful state, the 'common-wealth' of Australia,
and calls for actual acts of terror against non-moslems] and treasonous undermining of the 'common-wealth' of Australia [in, extensive criminal activities, corruption, and massive welfare fraud] undermining of a host states 'treasure' and common peace, and undermining of law and order.


EVIDENCE.

WITNESS, the good 'Aussie' moslems,
who are,     behind closed doors,
teaching their children how to 'practice' ISLAM.....


Quote:
- 'Aussie' moslem child, being taught 'how to practice ISLAM', in Australia.


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  -------- >   goto 43 sec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E







@ 1 min 35 sec in that YT....
[An 'Aussie' moslem, Bilal Merhi, addressing 200,000 followers of ISLAM, in Indonesia....

Quote:



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More evidence.....

Quote:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/07/australia-members-of-hizb-ut-tahrir-say-countr...

Yadda, your opening post calls for "all Aussie followers of Islam to be detained." That would require the powers of a Police State. Not only is such detention not going to happen, even as a theoretical proposition, it would be counter-productive, in that it would increase the sympathy of media who control public opinion.

Your argument that belief in Islam is dangerously irrational, can easily be applied to other beliefs. Whether it is an accurate view, is beside the point. Islam is tolerated legally, and excused of violence under the idea that it is misuderstood. These are the two points that frame public opinion toward Muzlums. Also, while it is somewhat contradictory, the Australian psyche has been steeped in mistrust of police-action since colonial times.

issuevoter wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:



No it wouldn't.

Quote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_detention



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issuevoter wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:


Yadda paraphrases...

We shouldn't;
1/ seek to bring ISLAM and its followers in Australia, 'to account',
2/ nor should we [accurately] publicly characterise ISLAM as a murderous death cult,
3/ nor seek to get ISLAM lawfully declared a proscribed [banned] group in Australia,
4/ nor seek to LAWFULLY detain all self-declared followers of ISLAM in Australia in administrative detention,
because Australian mainstream media types like issue, and many ordinary Australians, would fear being labelled as ISLAM-O-PHOBIC.

And that would be,      so, so, so not P.C.


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issuevoter wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:


issue,

That was not MY argument.

My argument, IS, that        ISLAM is a deceitful, devious, dangerous, supremacist, murderous death cult.

And, that ALL of the followers of ISLAM, are dangerous people,
because following the strictures of their 'faith',
transforms every one of them, into a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac.

And that all Australians and our parliamentarians, need to recognise, AND CONFRONT, that fact.



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issuevoter wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:




So what are you going to do about it ?
...apart from implying that my criticism of ISLAM 'may be' irrational. re.

"Whether it is an accurate view, is beside the point."

Your own main argument, is that my proposal for a reasoned     AND A REAL AND PRACTICAL    response, to the threat which is facing all Australians [from 'Aussie' moslems], is 'impractical' or, that it would be difficult to 'sell', to mainstream Australia ?



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issuevoter wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:


issue,

What do you suggest ?

That we ask our Australian governments to disband our state and federal police services ?

[Yes, i'm just being 'silly'.        But not as silly as people like yourself.]



issue,

People like ourselves [those of us who are aware of the very real threat which a 'free'-and-unencumbered-ISLAM-in-Australia, poses to all Australians],
and yet still;

Refusing, to consider, doing what is both morally right [i.e. lawful] and practical, to alleviate that serious threat,
because suggesting that action, may be presented by many left-leaning Australians,
to all other Australians, as being ISLAM-O-PHOBIC, is both cowardly and foolish,
and a defeatist and impotent response, imo.

moses wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 4:21pm:



Thanks moses.

And i am in 100% agreement with your own stated assessment.



We [all Australians] need to honestly confront, what ISLAM really is, and to honestly confront the truth, about the nefarious and violent supremacist intentions which mainstream ISLAM fosters and promotes,
everywhere in the world that ISLAM is found.

The wider Australian community needs to recognise,       that in a sense, the moslem community in Australia, is a waterlogged 'swamp', where militant ISLAMISTS are being permitted to safely 'swim' [and hide].

And we too, need to drain [remove] the swamp, which is hiding the violent militancy which ISLAM fosters.


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And as freediver also has pointed out,
it is apparent,      that moslems show no intention, of 'reforming' their parasitic and vicious, and deceitful 'faith'.

Because we can see,       that the only thing which the moslems who are living within Western nations,
ARE PREPARED TO OFFER US,
is their denials,
and their deceit,
whenever anyone is critical of the influence of ISLAM.....


freediver said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1459123428/75#75
Quote:

issue giving a lecture on how to be calm and collected when arguing against Islam. Hmmm

Perhaps, issue, you could offer Yadda some advise on how to "coolly and concisely" engage in unprovoked personal abuse to enhance the argument. I think that would really give him the moral edge - wouldn't you say?

issuevoter wrote on Oct 4^th, 2018 at 8:45am:



issue,

ARGUMENT;
Majority supported 'solutions' or consensus 'solutions',     have no worth, AT ALL, unless they willingly confront the reality and truth of any serious problem.



issue,


'Entertaining' 'sincere' 'submissions' made to the wider community,       from the moslem community, like the ones which are portrayed in these images below, isn't a solution....





IMAGE.....






Quote:
- Ali Kadri
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https://www.northernstar.com.au/news/we-wont-stop-terrorist-attacks-by-blaming-i...




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"ISLAM ES PAZ"


IMAGE.....



Everyone knows that true ISLAM, is a religion of peace.

/sarc off

@ Reply #29

Well said,    issue.

Administrative detention would cost to much, send them packing until all Muslims start towing the line and stop covering for those who chop peoples heads off and target concert goers in Manchester etc etc etc and so on and so forth.

issuevoter wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 1:37pm:



issue,     you, and people like you,       need to 'get with the program', of [either, offering, or] supporting,
a PRACTICAL solution, which the problem of militant ISLAMISTS living among us, presents.

"In Australia, the Muzlum Problem will not be solved by detention."

- issue



Dictionary;
quarantine = =
· n. a state, period, or place of isolation for people or animals that have arrived from elsewhere or been exposed to contagious disease.
· v. put in quarantine.


Quarantine may have some expense, but it is absolutely necessary to protect uninfected segments of a population, from harm.

ISLAMIC militancy is analogous to a rabid and harmful 'infection',
and every member of a moslem community is a 'carrier' of the [perhaps dormant] 'virus' of that contagion.



[with an option to voluntarily leave Australia]







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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1517662538/0#0
Quote:




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Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1522634108/1#1
Quote:




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And that is why        a PRACTICAL solution needs to be implemented,       to the problem, which militant ISLAMISTS living among us, presents.

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IMAGE.....










Quote:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/10/australia-islamic-bonnie-and-clyde-plotted-ne...



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Everyone, needs to 'get with the program',       of setting in place a PRACTICAL response [and solution] to the very serious danger to us all,
which militant ISLAMISTS living among us, presents to every other Australian.

Those who refuse to, are simply going to be 'a part of the problem'.

issuevoter wrote on Oct 8^th, 2018 at 9:23am:


It's quite the opposite, actually.

The majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by non-Muslims, and those attacks are the ones being largely ignored by the media and politicians.

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 8^th, 2018 at 11:51am:


I do what I can   

moses wrote on Oct 8^th, 2018 at 2:14pm:


And ignore the majority of terrorist attacks, which have nothing to do with Muslims or Islam?

moses wrote on Oct 8^th, 2018 at 2:26pm:


The majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by non-Muslims, though - this fact has already been established.

Moreover, the vast majority of these terrorists are men.

As far as I'm aware, no books have carried out any attacks yet.

You seem to be focusing on the wrong thing.

The question is, why?

Why don't you focus on the bigger threats:  ethno-nationalism, white supremacism, separatism, gang crime, hate crime, etc.?

No crap.

The majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by non-Muslims - fact.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8^th, 2018 at 2:54pm:

Not a fact at all, turd. 

All the devious work is done when 'terrorist attacks' are defined and they are defined precisely for devious purposes. Show us how 'terrorist attacks' are defined in the devious propaganda that you keep referencing.

Remove loo paper and show your face.

Do a word search, Frank.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/european-union-te...

No mention of graffiti anywhere.

Bombings and shootings come up a lot, though.

Oh, and it shows that Jihadist terrorism only accounted for 16% of all attacks (page 9).

Frank wrote on Oct 8^th, 2018 at 7:45pm:


Read the report.

It's all in there (all except graffiti, that is).

https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/european-union-te...

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8^th, 2018 at 7:56pm:

I gave you the link to the actual Europol report, shitehead.  It makes it clear that Islamic terrorism IS the biggest worry in Europe, as it is around the world wherever Muslims live.

Muslim terrorism is not an issue only where Muslims are not allowed.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8^th, 2018 at 8:06pm:

Sure.


This site can’t be reached
www.europol.europa.eu’s server IP address could not be found.
Try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8^th, 2018 at 8:29pm:

It's not working, turd. And you are lying.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8^th, 2018 at 8:54pm:


For one ideology that's quite significant.

I refer to the Foreword:

"In the years following the first edition of the TE-SAT, the overall number of terrorist attacks in the European Union decreased, largely owing to a substantial drop in the number of separatist attacks, which over at ten-year period comprised the largest proportion of attacks reported by Member States. In contrast, the threat of jihadist terror has increased considerably since 2006, culminating in large-scale attacks such as those in Paris in 2015 and in Brussels, Nice and Berlin in 2016. Attacks committed by right-wing extremists have rarely been reported by Members States over the years and were therefore never prominently covered in the TE-SAT. The same applies to acts of single-issue terrorism, whereas left-wing extremist terrorism appears to be a constant in some Member States, as reflected in the TE-SAT reports over the years. However, none of the reported activities in any terrorist category have been as lethal and have had such an impact on society as a whole as those committed by jihadist terrorists...

Trends:

#1: ... Jihadist attacks, however, cause more deaths and casualties than any other terrorist attacks...

#3: Jihadist attacks are committed primarily by home-grown terrorists, radicalised in their country of residence without having travelled to join a terrorist group abroad....

#8: The often rudimentary and fragmented knowledge of Islam of (aspiring) jihadist terrorists makes them vulnerable to being influenced and manipulated by those who selectively use religious texts to fit a violent ideology....

Auggie wrote on Oct 8^th, 2018 at 9:19pm:


Yes, it's all there in the report.

Along with:

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 8^th, 2018 at 9:27pm:


It's a report on Europe, Homo.

Europe isn't a country.

"Most terrorist attacks carried out
in the EU in 2017 were specified as
separatist attacks (137 out of 205).

"France counted 42 attacks, Spain
experienced 7 attacks.

"There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and
30 were bombing incidents."

All of this is in the report, Homo.

Why not take the time to read it?

Oh, and if you can find any graffiti attacks in the report, please let us know.

Cheers