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Reply #30 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 9:38pm
 
Cu Chulainn wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 8:53pm:
We lost more that a few f-111s and their pilots in peace time. They were a fantastic aircraft and it was sad to see them go. We have nothing like them anymore and the f-35 will not fill their role.



True - but the F35 is a stealth aircraft so it's hard to pick up on radars
whereas the F111 could be seen from 100s of miles away.
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Reply #31 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 9:48pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 9:38pm:
Cu Chulainn wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 8:53pm:
We lost more that a few f-111s and their pilots in peace time. They were a fantastic aircraft and it was sad to see them go. We have nothing like them anymore and the f-35 will not fill their role.



True - but the F35 is a stealth aircraft so it's hard to pick up on radars
whereas the F111 could be seen from 100s of miles away.


And?? What has that got to do with your crash post? The F-111 had more than it's share of ill fortune but was an outstanding aircraft. I'm sorry it was taken out of service, there were more than enough spares in Arizona for it to fly another decade or more.
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Reply #32 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 10:05pm
 
Hi CC,
the F111 couldn't survive the modern battlefield.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/f35-stealth-fighters-in-c...


F-35 stealth fighters in combat for the first time


THE defeat of a Russian air defence weapon in Syria may now have a cause: Israel has revealed it has unleashed its F-35 strike fighters for the first time.
Jamie Seidel
News Corp Australia NetworkMay 24, 20189:18pm


SYRIA insisted it could defend itself. Russia said it had provided the means.
But Israel’s air strikes have been spectacularly successful. Now we know why.

Israel’s air force commander has said recent strikes against Iranian targets in and around the Syrian capital of Damascus were conducted by the F-35 Lightning II stealth fighter.

It’s the first time the new combat jet has gone into action anywhere in the world.

“The F-35 squadron has become an operational squadron,” Major General Amikam Norkin told Haaretz earlier this week.

“We are flying the F-35 all over the Middle East and have already attacked twice on two different fronts.”

Israel has dubbed its version of the F-35 the “Adir” (meaning ‘mighty one’).


Haarets says it has seen images of the F-35 flying over Beirut in Lebanon. It also says Major Norkin said the stealth fighter did not participate in the most recent air raids last week. But it did during the previous two.

The newspaper says more than 100 missiles have been fired — in vain — by Syrian air defences.

It’s an indication the F-35 is coming out on top in its battle against Russian-built defences.

RUSSIAN AGAINST US TECHNOLOGY

The prospect of the F-35 flying through some of Syria’s most defended air space raises the likelihood that it has faced some of Russia’s best export weaponry — and defeated it.

Damascus is one of the most heavily protected cities in the world.

It’s armed with a variety of missile systems — both new and old — by its ally, Russia.
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Re: First F-35 fighter jet crash
Reply #33 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 10:42pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 10:05pm:
Hi CC,
the F111 couldn't survive the modern battlefield.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/f35-stealth-fighters-in-c...


F-35 stealth fighters in combat for the first time


THE defeat of a Russian air defence weapon in Syria may now have a cause: Israel has revealed it has unleashed its F-35 strike fighters for the first time.
Jamie Seidel
News Corp Australia NetworkMay 24, 20189:18pm


SYRIA insisted it could defend itself. Russia said it had provided the means.
But Israel’s air strikes have been spectacularly successful. Now we know why.

Israel’s air force commander has said recent strikes against Iranian targets in and around the Syrian capital of Damascus were conducted by the F-35 Lightning II stealth fighter.

It’s the first time the new combat jet has gone into action anywhere in the world.

“The F-35 squadron has become an operational squadron,” Major General Amikam Norkin told Haaretz earlier this week.

“We are flying the F-35 all over the Middle East and have already attacked twice on two different fronts.”

Israel has dubbed its version of the F-35 the “Adir” (meaning ‘mighty one’).


Haarets says it has seen images of the F-35 flying over Beirut in Lebanon. It also says Major Norkin said the stealth fighter did not participate in the most recent air raids last week. But it did during the previous two.

The newspaper says more than 100 missiles have been fired — in vain — by Syrian air defences.

It’s an indication the F-35 is coming out on top in its battle against Russian-built defences.

RUSSIAN AGAINST US TECHNOLOGY

The prospect of the F-35 flying through some of Syria’s most defended air space raises the likelihood that it has faced some of Russia’s best export weaponry — and defeated it.

Damascus is one of the most heavily protected cities in the world.

It’s armed with a variety of missile systems — both new and old — by its ally, Russia.


Yes it could if it was used in it's primary role as an under the radar strike aircraft. It was called the "Pig" for a reason. It could fly from Darwin to Jakarta and back under the radar. I was blessed to watch the F-111 doing terrain following around Kyogle. Magnificent aircraft.
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Re: First F-35 fighter jet crash
Reply #34 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 10:55pm
 
Cu Chulainn wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 10:42pm:
Yes it could if it was used in it's primary role as an under the radar strike aircraft. It was called the "Pig" for a reason. It could fly from Darwin to Jakarta and back under the radar. I was blessed to watch the F-111 doing terrain following around Kyogle. Magnificent aircraft.



It sure was a magnificent aircraft.
For the cost of a a couple of F35s they probably could have kept a whole squadron
of F111s in service for a long time.
It would have been money better spent.
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Reply #35 - Oct 1st, 2018 at 5:17am
 
hear hear and we should of kept the Canberra bombers and some mustangs as well, and refurnished a few sopwith camels too  Wink
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Reply #36 - Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:09am
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 5:17am:
hear hear and we should of kept the Canberra bombers and some mustangs as well, and refurnished a few sopwith camels too  Wink



Don't be such a smart arse.
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Reply #37 - Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:34am
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:09am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 5:17am:
hear hear and we should of kept the Canberra bombers and some mustangs as well, and refurnished a few sopwith camels too  Wink



Don't be such a smart arse.

well don't be such a dumm ass

F111's as a plane where great for their day... which was about 50 years ago, …….. if u had to personally go into battle Bobby and put your life on the line would u rather be in a F111 or a F35 ?
if u want our pilots to be in F111 instead maybe it's u that need a good hanging Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #38 - Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:48am
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:34am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:09am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 5:17am:
hear hear and we should of kept the Canberra bombers and some mustangs as well, and refurnished a few sopwith camels too  Wink



Don't be such a smart arse.

well don't be such a dumm ass

F111's as a plane where great for their day... which was about 50 years ago, …….. if u had to personally go into battle Bobby and put your life on the line would u rather be in a F111 or a F35 ?
if u want our pilots to be in F111 instead maybe it's u that need a good hanging Cheesy Cheesy



But a  sopwith camel?
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Reply #39 - Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:56am
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:48am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:34am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:09am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 5:17am:
hear hear and we should of kept the Canberra bombers and some mustangs as well, and refurnished a few sopwith camels too  Wink



Don't be such a smart arse.

well don't be such a dumm ass

F111's as a plane where great for their day... which was about 50 years ago, …….. if u had to personally go into battle Bobby and put your life on the line would u rather be in a F111 or a F35 ?
if u want our pilots to be in F111 instead maybe it's u that need a good hanging Cheesy Cheesy



But a  sopwith camel?

well if u want to send our pilots to war in a old plane , might as well be a camel.... at least when they get shot down it wont cost us Millions..... It's all about the money isn't it Bobby ? Wink
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Reply #40 - Oct 1st, 2018 at 9:06am
 
It is important to have first class front line aircraft to defend our Country

Never take your freedom for granted

There are many jealous Countries that look at our vast expanse of Country with natural riches and they look  at it with envy

I don't and have never trusted Indonesia

That was why we bought the F-1-11s because  they could fly to Indonesia drop a payload and be able to make the return trip  ( served in the R.A.A.F. for 6 years)
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Reply #41 - Oct 1st, 2018 at 9:28am
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:56am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:48am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:34am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:09am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 5:17am:
hear hear and we should of kept the Canberra bombers and some mustangs as well, and refurnished a few sopwith camels too  Wink



Don't be such a smart arse.

well don't be such a dumm ass

F111's as a plane where great for their day... which was about 50 years ago, …….. if u had to personally go into battle Bobby and put your life on the line would u rather be in a F111 or a F35 ?
if u want our pilots to be in F111 instead maybe it's u that need a good hanging Cheesy Cheesy



But a  sopwith camel?

well if u want to send our pilots to war in a old plane , might as well be a camel.... at least when they get shot down it wont cost us Millions..... It's all about the money isn't it Bobby ? Wink


You don't know what you're talking about.
The F111s were upgraded to be modern.
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Reply #42 - Oct 1st, 2018 at 9:29am
 
red baron wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 9:06am:
It is important to have first class front line aircraft to defend our Country

Never take your freedom for granted

There are many jealous Countries that look at our vast expanse of Country with natural riches and they look  at it with envy

I don't and have never trusted Indonesia

That was why we bought the F-1-11s because  they could fly to Indonesia drop a payload and be able to make the return trip  ( served in the R.A.A.F. for 6 years)


Well said - we have lost that capability now.
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Reply #43 - Oct 1st, 2018 at 10:27am
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 9:28am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:56am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:48am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:34am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 6:09am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Oct 1st, 2018 at 5:17am:
hear hear and we should of kept the Canberra bombers and some mustangs as well, and refurnished a few sopwith camels too  Wink



Don't be such a smart arse.

well don't be such a dumm ass

F111's as a plane where great for their day... which was about 50 years ago, …….. if u had to personally go into battle Bobby and put your life on the line would u rather be in a F111 or a F35 ?
if u want our pilots to be in F111 instead maybe it's u that need a good hanging Cheesy Cheesy



But a  sopwith camel?

well if u want to send our pilots to war in a old plane , might as well be a camel.... at least when they get shot down it wont cost us Millions..... It's all about the money isn't it Bobby ? Wink


You don't know what you're talking about.
The F111s were upgraded to be modern.

U mean when we made them in F111c "s.... In the eighties...…...ALmost 40 years ago and I think the last upgrades they did where in the 90's so 30 years ago...…… not really modern and I think they decided to scrap them when the yanks scraped theirs and ours where snapping off wings and such
There r no new strike planes like the F111 unfortunately but that cant be a excuse to use a old plane.
Again if u went to war would u rather be in a F111 or a F35 ? Wink
as red said , we want to best and unfortunately the F111 is just to old ,although I think them and the tomcat r the best looking fighters the yanks ever made. Wink
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Reply #44 - Oct 1st, 2018 at 10:55am
 
Hippy,
The yanks are still using the B52s.
It depends on any metal fatigue
which can be measured.
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