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Re: First F-35 fighter jet crash
Reply #180 - Oct 8^th, 2018 at 12:25am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 7^th, 2018 at 6:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 7^th, 2018 at 4:25pm:

I used 2 youtube videos to illustrate the point I was making - the S300 and S400 missiles are not that terribly reliable - just most Russian gear is not that terribly reliable, particularly once you get away from simple mechanical methods.

Bobby, you have failed dismally to show much real understanding of this topic. I think I'll just leave you here, if that is OK with you? It'll save any more embarrassment for either of us. Roll Eyes

Brian,
are you saying that you're kind of a big deal?

Nope. I am merely more knowledgeable than you, Bobby. You're just ignorant. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95101 Melbourne Gender:	Re: First F-35 fighter jet crash Reply #181 - Oct 8^th, 2018 at 5:53am Brian, are you saying that you're kind of a big deal?
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 39487	Re: First F-35 fighter jet crash Reply #182 - Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:02pm Now, what I saying about crew shortages for the submarines being a limiting factor? Mmmm? Crew shortage could leave Australia's new submarines high and dry – report
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Re: First F-35 fighter jet crash
Reply #183 - Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:07pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:02pm:

Now, what I saying about crew shortages for the submarines being a limiting factor? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

Crew shortage could leave Australia's new submarines high and dry – report

And I was right:

The Submarine Institute of Australia president, Mark Sander, a former Oberon submariner, said it can be difficult to attract people to the job, despite the high salaries, because of the unique working conditions.

Submariners can be at sea for months on end without sunlight and they spend long periods away from family.

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Re: First F-35 fighter jet crash
Reply #184 - Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:56pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:02pm:

Now, what I saying about crew shortages for the submarines being a limiting factor? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

Crew shortage could leave Australia's new submarines high and dry – report

And I was right:

The Submarine Institute of Australia president, Mark Sander, a former Oberon submariner, said it can be difficult to attract people to the job, despite the high salaries, because of the unique working conditions.

Submariners can be at sea for months on end without sunlight and they spend long periods away from family.

Errr, that was basically what I said, Bobby. Please be original. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

That newspaper report supports everything I've said, Bobby - Crews are the major limiting factor on how long a submarine can spend at sea on Operations. Roll Eyes

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Re: First F-35 fighter jet crash
Reply #185 - Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:59pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:02pm:

Now, what I saying about crew shortages for the submarines being a limiting factor? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

Crew shortage could leave Australia's new submarines high and dry – report

And I was right:

The Submarine Institute of Australia president, Mark Sander, a former Oberon submariner, said it can be difficult to attract people to the job, despite the high salaries, because of the unique working conditions.

Submariners can be at sea for months on end without sunlight and they spend long periods away from family.

Errr, that was basically what I said, Bobby. Please be original. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

That newspaper report supports everything I've said, Bobby - Crews are the major limiting factor on how long a submarine can spend at sea on Operations. Roll Eyes

Why don't they pay them huge bucks?
They should pay them at least $200k per annum.
It's a dangerous job stuck inside a claustrophobic sub full of homos.

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Re: First F-35 fighter jet crash
Reply #186 - Oct 9^th, 2018 at 7:51pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:02pm:

Now, what I saying about crew shortages for the submarines being a limiting factor? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

Crew shortage could leave Australia's new submarines high and dry – report

And I was right:

The Submarine Institute of Australia president, Mark Sander, a former Oberon submariner, said it can be difficult to attract people to the job, despite the high salaries, because of the unique working conditions.

Submariners can be at sea for months on end without sunlight and they spend long periods away from family.

Errr, that was basically what I said, Bobby. Please be original. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

That newspaper report supports everything I've said, Bobby - Crews are the major limiting factor on how long a submarine can spend at sea on Operations. Roll Eyes

Why don't they pay them huge bucks?
They should pay them at least $200k per annum.
It's a dangerous job stuck inside a claustrophobic sub full of homos.

And blow out the Defence budget, Bobby?

Would be much easier if they moved their home base to Sydney, rather than Perth. More people live in the East than the West. Most people would be willing to serve there than in Perth.

They are already amongst the three highest paid groups in the ADF, Bobby. They are paid the equivalent of the Army's "Special Forces" diggers and the Air Forces' pilots IIRC.

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Re: First F-35 fighter jet crash
Reply #187 - Oct 9^th, 2018 at 8:17pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 7:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:02pm:

Now, what I saying about crew shortages for the submarines being a limiting factor? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

Crew shortage could leave Australia's new submarines high and dry – report

And I was right:

The Submarine Institute of Australia president, Mark Sander, a former Oberon submariner, said it can be difficult to attract people to the job, despite the high salaries, because of the unique working conditions.

Submariners can be at sea for months on end without sunlight and they spend long periods away from family.

Errr, that was basically what I said, Bobby. Please be original. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

That newspaper report supports everything I've said, Bobby - Crews are the major limiting factor on how long a submarine can spend at sea on Operations. Roll Eyes

Why don't they pay them huge bucks?
They should pay them at least $200k per annum.
It's a dangerous job stuck inside a claustrophobic sub full of homos.

And blow out the Defence budget, Bobby?

Would be much easier if they moved their home base to Sydney, rather than Perth. More people live in the East than the West. Most people would be willing to serve there than in Perth.

They are already amongst the three highest paid groups in the ADF, Bobby. They are paid the equivalent of the Army's "Special Forces" diggers and the Air Forces' pilots IIRC.

It's not enough to lure them.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131414 Gender:	Re: First F-35 fighter jet crash Reply #188 - Oct 9^th, 2018 at 9:26pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:59pm: Why don't they pay them huge bucks? They should pay them at least $200k per annum. It's a dangerous job stuck inside a claustrophobic sub full of homos. Have you got a little stiffy now, Gobby?
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29705 Gender:	Re: First F-35 fighter jet crash Reply #189 - Oct 10^th, 2018 at 12:05pm Ok Tsk Tsk explain this one. How does an F117 end up in chinese hands ?
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Reply #190 - Oct 10^th, 2018 at 2:28pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 10^th, 2018 at 12:05pm:

Ok Tsk Tsk explain this one. How does an F117 end up in chinese hands ?

By having a stupid mission planner along with a stupid pilot who fly the same route - exactly - on each mission they undertake?

By being shot down by Serbian gunners who are awake to what the F-117 are doing each night, flying the same route at the same height?

By thinking that "stealh" made them invisible to all and sundry who weren't using their Mk.1 Eyeballs?

The Chinese bought the remains of the F-117 off the Serbs after the USAF bombed their embassy in Belgrade. Funny how money talks, isn't it? Roll Eyes

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Re: First F-35 fighter jet crash
Reply #191 - Oct 10^th, 2018 at 2:37pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2018 at 2:28pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 10^th, 2018 at 12:05pm:

Ok Tsk Tsk explain this one. How does an F117 end up in chinese hands ?

By having a stupid mission planner along with a stupid pilot who fly the same route - exactly - on each mission they undertake?

By being shot down by Serbian gunners who are awake to what the F-117 are doing each night, flying the same route at the same height?

By thinking that "stealh" made them invisible to all and sundry who weren't using their Mk.1 Eyeballs?

The Chinese bought the remains of the F-117 off the Serbs after the USAF bombed their embassy in Belgrade. Funny how money talks, isn't it? Roll Eyes

Unless it's a fake news video?

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Re: First F-35 fighter jet crash
Reply #192 - Oct 10^th, 2018 at 2:54pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 10^th, 2018 at 2:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2018 at 2:28pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 10^th, 2018 at 12:05pm:

Ok Tsk Tsk explain this one. How does an F117 end up in chinese hands ?

By having a stupid mission planner along with a stupid pilot who fly the same route - exactly - on each mission they undertake?

By being shot down by Serbian gunners who are awake to what the F-117 are doing each night, flying the same route at the same height?

By thinking that "stealh" made them invisible to all and sundry who weren't using their Mk.1 Eyeballs?

The Chinese bought the remains of the F-117 off the Serbs after the USAF bombed their embassy in Belgrade. Funny how money talks, isn't it? Roll Eyes

Unless it's a fake news video?

Who cares? The F-117 is technology that is over 40 years old, Bobby. It was the first iteration of Stealth. It was when computer technology (used to design the aircraft) was relatively primitive. It is why the aircraft is so faceted. Nowadays, with more advanced computer technology aircraft can be designed much more rounded in form, with better reflectivity. My PC has substantially more computing power than the computers they used to design the F-117. Roll Eyes

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95101 Melbourne Gender:	Re: First F-35 fighter jet crash Reply #193 - Oct 10^th, 2018 at 3:08pm But Brian, It's the properties of the lossy ferrite paint used that is of most interest. You're obviously not a technical person.
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Reply #194 - Oct 10^th, 2018 at 3:13pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 7:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:02pm:

Now, what I saying about crew shortages for the submarines being a limiting factor? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

Crew shortage could leave Australia's new submarines high and dry – report

And I was right:

The Submarine Institute of Australia president, Mark Sander, a former Oberon submariner, said it can be difficult to attract people to the job, despite the high salaries, because of the unique working conditions.

Submariners can be at sea for months on end without sunlight and they spend long periods away from family.

Errr, that was basically what I said, Bobby. Please be original. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

That newspaper report supports everything I've said, Bobby - Crews are the major limiting factor on how long a submarine can spend at sea on Operations. Roll Eyes

Why don't they pay them huge bucks?
They should pay them at least $200k per annum.
It's a dangerous job stuck inside a claustrophobic sub full of homos.

And blow out the Defence budget, Bobby?

Would be much easier if they moved their home base to Sydney, rather than Perth. More people live in the East than the West. Most people would be willing to serve there than in Perth.

They are already amongst the three highest paid groups in the ADF, Bobby. They are paid the equivalent of the Army's "Special Forces" diggers and the Air Forces' pilots IIRC.

Why? If the ADF can finance gender reassignment surgeries for it's staff it can pay it's submariners a decent wicket.

How many submariners are required for 6 to 8 subs?

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