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Reply #15 - Sep 26th, 2018 at 7:40am
 
this is a bit of an eye opener..

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/four-days-in-uluru-and-not-one-indi...

ULURU stands as a symbol of the Outback and its vast emptiness, a tourism magnet that draws more than 300,000 visitors a year.

It is high on the checklists of overseas tourists and they head there in droves to experience the “real Australia.”

Unfortunately, having just spent four days there, I can report that their chances of meeting and speaking with any of the indigenous people on whose land The Rock stands and who are so closely identified with it are slim.

You would think that one of the most popular tourist destinations in the country and the one most synonymous with indigenous culture would present a magnificent opportunity for the local Aboriginal people to tell their story to the world.

Instead, on our experience, that task is left to people with no links to the land, its culture or its traditions.

The guide who escorted us on the 11km walk around the base of Uluru was an ex-farmer from Pretoria in South Africa. The guide who showed us through Kata Tjuta was from Hobart and another hailed from the United States.

The guide who presided over our trip to the Field of Light was a pleasant Japanese gentleman with an imperfect grasp of English and the bus drivers were all white Australians.

We visited a shop in the village centre where the indigenous girl behind the counter had to ask the non-indigenous manager for the answer to our query about an item on sale.

The staff at the hotel where we stayed were predominantly Japanese while the hotel executive staff appeared to be mainly from the Indian subcontinent.

I saw two young indigenous girls working at reception and one in the restaurant. There may have been more but they were not present in any significant number.

We went to the Sounds of Silence dinner in the desert and were served pre-dinner drinks by an assortment of youthful Asians and Europeans whom I suspect were backpackers while the didgeridoo player who played at dinner looked about as indigenous as I do.

We spoke to Canadians, Swiss, American and German visitors who echoed our thoughts on the curious invisibility of the Aboriginal people of Uluru.

It seems that opportunities for indigenous employment and to promote Aboriginal culture through interaction with visitors are not being seized.

Uluru is very much about money and those thinking of postponing that holiday in Bali and seeing Australia first should contemplate the cost.
We stayed at the Sails in the Desert hotel where we were charged an eye watering $600 plus a night for a standard hotel room that anywhere else would be $300 or less.

There is less expensive accommodation but the rates are all double what you would reasonably expect to pay.

We headed for the bar after a six hour morning tour where a cocktail was $23.50 and a stubby of beer $11.50. Admission to the park is $25 a head for a three-day pass and payable only in cash if you fail to book online.

Our “Sounds of Silence” dinner was $420 for two including drinks, making it the most expensive buffet we have ever experienced.

It’s difficult not to feel that you are a captive audience and being charged accordingly.

I appreciate that Uluru is remote but it is difficult to justify the prices being charged.

Then there is The Rock. According to our guide, since it became known that climbing is to be banned, there has been a surge in visitor numbers driven by people wanting to climb it before the ban takes effect on October 26, 2019 to coincide with the 34th anniversary of the return of Uluru to traditional owners.

A sign at the point where the climb begins says: “Too many people do not listen to our message. Too many people have died or been hurt causing great sadness. We worry about you and we worry about your family. Please don’t climb.”


Walpa Gorge at Kata Tjuta National Park is a spectacular sandstone monolith. Picture: iStock
Thousands ignore it and visit the site with the sole intention of climbing it. They head straight for The Rock, their antlike silhouettes as they ascend the steep, narrow path plainly visible.

Fearful that the ban will reduce numbers and revenue, the traditional owners have looked at alternate offerings to appease those who would climb Uluru.

Incredibly, they have settled on a blimp, an airship that ascends to a height of about 200m but remains tethered to the ground via a cable and winch.

Denied a rock climb, it is hoped tourists will pay $85 to climb into an open gondola and view Uluru.

The airship hangs in the air, a floating blot on the wide, flat expanse of the Outback.

It is cheap commercialism at its worst — Disneyland comes to Uluru. If the traditional owners expect people to give the sacred sites at Uluru the respect they deserve and take their culture seriously, they’ll get rid of the airship.

When the ban was announced by the management board of the Uluru-Kata Tjuta National Park, it said one of the reasons for doing so was that the site was not “a playground or a theme park.”

Reconciling this view with the decision to allow the airship is difficult.

Go to Uluru. Stand in a gorge in Kata Tjuta, feel the wind in your face, look out across the ancient land and be transported to another place.

Just don’t expect to meet the people who own it.
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Reply #16 - Sep 26th, 2018 at 12:43pm
 
cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 7:31am:
calling it invasion day    ISNT DIVISIVE????...

really!

wonder what they would have called   this...

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On February 19, 1942, Darwin was attacked by two Japanese air raids. They were orchestrated by none other than Mitsuo Fuchida, the commander who had 10 weeks earlier bombed Pearl Harbour. Overall, the attacks cost around 250 people their lives and injured between 300 and 400 military personnel and civilians.




now thats what a real  invasion  can do.....this was just two raids......imagine having one after the other  for weeks on end?????>..

I dont expect we wil get any outcome on the Australia Day debate that anyone will be happy with-   just get rid the the day and call it Ronald Mc Donald Day or something we can all get excited about- this debate is always had in Sydney and rarely touches country towns/ppl- ever-
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Reply #17 - Sep 26th, 2018 at 12:44pm
 
You live in the ACT right cods. We already have an Indigenous Day.
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Reply #18 - Sep 26th, 2018 at 1:56pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 12:44pm:
You live in the ACT right cods. We already have an Indigenous Day.



do we.... when?....to be honest since the Embassy camp has gone   I havent seen any aborigines in act.... perhaps its too cold..

I dont have a dislike for Aborigines   just the constant complaining...they are too needy for me....they need to get over themselves...and just mix in....send your kids to school....do something positive...
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Reply #19 - Sep 26th, 2018 at 1:57pm
 
cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 12:44pm:
You live in the ACT right cods. We already have an Indigenous Day.



do we.... when?....to be honest since the Embassy camp has gone   I havent seen any aborigines in act.... perhaps its too cold..

I dont have a dislike for Aborigines   just the constant complaining...they are too needy for me....they need to get over themselves...and just mix in....send your kids to school....do something positive...



This year, in May.
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Reply #20 - Sep 26th, 2018 at 1:59pm
 
cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 12:44pm:
You live in the ACT right cods. We already have an Indigenous Day.



do we.... when?....to be honest since the Embassy camp has gone   I havent seen any aborigines in act.... perhaps its too cold..

I dont have a dislike for Aborigines   just the constant complaining...they are too needy for me....they need to get over themselves...and just mix in....send your kids to school....do something positive
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The first Monday on or after 27 May each year.

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Reply #21 - Sep 26th, 2018 at 2:07pm
 
cods wrote on Sep 25th, 2018 at 6:39pm:
we cant undo history though.....some folks have such trouble understanding that...

I dont know if there was blood on the sand at Sydney Cove  .....to my knowledge there wasnt any.....

lets whitewash  WW11     I wonder how that will go down?



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Reply #22 - Sep 27th, 2018 at 11:44am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 12:44pm:
You live in the ACT right cods. We already have an Indigenous Day.



do we.... when?....to be honest since the Embassy camp has gone   I havent seen any aborigines in act.... perhaps its too cold..

I dont have a dislike for Aborigines   just the constant complaining...they are too needy for me....they need to get over themselves...and just mix in....send your kids to school....do something positive...



This year, in May.



sorry I missed it... what did I miss?..

was it exciting?....

did they burn the flag  or maybe kill a whitey Roll Eyes
[sarc]

another all about MEEEEEEEEEEEEE day isnt it?

might go to floriade this year how about you???....
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Reply #23 - Sep 27th, 2018 at 11:45am
 
PZ547 wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
cods wrote on Sep 25th, 2018 at 6:39pm:
we cant undo history though.....some folks have such trouble understanding that...

I dont know if there was blood on the sand at Sydney Cove  .....to my knowledge there wasnt any.....

lets whitewash  WW11     I wonder how that will go down?



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how nice   thank you..

now that is a first  Roll Eyes for ozpol....
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Reply #24 - Sep 27th, 2018 at 11:46am
 
cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2018 at 11:44am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 12:44pm:
You live in the ACT right cods. We already have an Indigenous Day.



do we.... when?....to be honest since the Embassy camp has gone   I havent seen any aborigines in act.... perhaps its too cold..

I dont have a dislike for Aborigines   just the constant complaining...they are too needy for me....they need to get over themselves...and just mix in....send your kids to school....do something positive...



This year, in May.



sorry I missed it... what did I miss?..

was it exciting?....

did they burn the flag  or maybe kill a whitey Roll Eyes
[sarc]

another all about MEEEEEEEEEEEEE day isnt it?

might go to floriade this year how about you???....



Floriade sucks.
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #25 - Sep 27th, 2018 at 11:50am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 27th, 2018 at 11:46am:
cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2018 at 11:44am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 12:44pm:
You live in the ACT right cods. We already have an Indigenous Day.



do we.... when?....to be honest since the Embassy camp has gone   I havent seen any aborigines in act.... perhaps its too cold..

I dont have a dislike for Aborigines   just the constant complaining...they are too needy for me....they need to get over themselves...and just mix in....send your kids to school....do something positive...



This year, in May.



sorry I missed it... what did I miss?..

was it exciting?....

did they burn the flag  or maybe kill a whitey Roll Eyes
[sarc]

another all about MEEEEEEEEEEEEE day isnt it?

might go to floriade this year how about you???....



Floriade sucks.



but what our very own indig day...?????? Smiley Smiley

what did I miss?....

well we pay for it...floriade I mean....all those flowers that last 4 weeks... Smiley Smiley



makes sense to some.
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Reply #26 - Sep 27th, 2018 at 11:56am
 
cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2018 at 11:50am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 27th, 2018 at 11:46am:
cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2018 at 11:44am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 12:44pm:
You live in the ACT right cods. We already have an Indigenous Day.



do we.... when?....to be honest since the Embassy camp has gone   I havent seen any aborigines in act.... perhaps its too cold..

I dont have a dislike for Aborigines   just the constant complaining...they are too needy for me....they need to get over themselves...and just mix in....send your kids to school....do something positive...



This year, in May.



sorry I missed it... what did I miss?..

was it exciting?....

did they burn the flag  or maybe kill a whitey Roll Eyes
[sarc]

another all about MEEEEEEEEEEEEE day isnt it?

might go to floriade this year how about you???....



Floriade sucks.



but what our very own indig day...?????? Smiley Smiley

what did I miss?....

well we pay for it...floriade I mean....all those flowers that last 4 weeks... Smiley Smiley



makes sense to some.



Well you missed some celebrations in town. essentially thats why there was no family and community day this year, it got swapped to May.
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Reply #27 - Sep 27th, 2018 at 1:11pm
 
I believe they want to chuck abo day in with whitie day because nobody gives a crap about abo day.
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Reply #28 - Sep 27th, 2018 at 2:14pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 27th, 2018 at 11:56am:
cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2018 at 11:50am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 27th, 2018 at 11:46am:
cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2018 at 11:44am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 26th, 2018 at 12:44pm:
You live in the ACT right cods. We already have an Indigenous Day.



do we.... when?....to be honest since the Embassy camp has gone   I havent seen any aborigines in act.... perhaps its too cold..

I dont have a dislike for Aborigines   just the constant complaining...they are too needy for me....they need to get over themselves...and just mix in....send your kids to school....do something positive...



This year, in May.



sorry I missed it... what did I miss?..

was it exciting?....

did they burn the flag  or maybe kill a whitey Roll Eyes
[sarc]

another all about MEEEEEEEEEEEEE day isnt it?

might go to floriade this year how about you???....



Floriade sucks.



but what our very own indig day...?????? Smiley Smiley

what did I miss?....

well we pay for it...floriade I mean....all those flowers that last 4 weeks... Smiley Smiley



makes sense to some.



Well you missed some celebrations in town. essentially thats why there was no family and community day this year, it got swapped to May.



well I am retired bj    so I wouldnt know about that   i have just been told its school holidays and a public holiday on Monday..


I am not fond of this PC govt.....have you noticed what they are doing to this town.....

all tho9se bloody trees they have knocked down...

this town used to be known for its tree lined streets...now its dead...ooops  apart from indig day...family day.. may day...picnic day...canberra day.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #29 - Sep 27th, 2018 at 3:08pm
 
cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2018 at 2:14pm:
I am not fond of this PC govt.....have you noticed what they are doing to this town.....

all tho9se bloody trees they have knocked down...

this town used to be known for its tree lined streets...now its dead...ooops  apart from indig day...family day.. may day...picnic day...canberra day.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



And again you show you have no idea whats going on. They are knocking down the trees because those trees have a certain lifespan, a lot of the trees are coming to their end of their lives and they are removing them before they fall over and take a house or people out. This was announced several years ago.
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