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watch his speech here...

unfortunately - the Aust MSM wont play this..

https://www.facebook.com/senatorfraseranning/?hc_ref=ARQjxIoIjLrs-A5vGrg9JfXnH2H...

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Absuoltely rubbish.  Marxism is a set of economic principals, it really has nothing to do with the safe school program.  The world is evovling, and our morals always evolve as well.  Majority of aussies have recognized the importance of recoginition of same sex marriage.   And the safe sex program is about educating us young people about different sexuality, and to be respectful to each other.  Its an anti bullying program, that had been perverted by the right, to state that its somehow bending our kids into different sexualiies.   I dont buy that, and most Aussies dont. 

You people keep saying oh commies want this commies want that.  Well guess what, none of the communist countries have any safe school program, or recongition of same sex marriages.  They are the product of democracy - through votes, and a free and fair society.

50 years ago, kids who were unfortunate enough to be born trans or gay were forced to live in shame, not talk about it and just accept that they were a perversion and generally inferior beings.

Fraser Anning of course was a-ok with that state of affairs, because it meant that he and his circle of friends never had to experience the trauma of actually accepting that these perversions exist in society. Out of sight, out of mind.

So we shouldn't be surprised that when we, as a society, finally start addressing this terrible injustice, and actually start to do things that help these people feel like normal human beings, the Fraser Anning's of this world take this as an affront to their world view and sensibilities.

Fraser Anning and his ilk are the real affront to society, and they can go far cough and die for all I care.   

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20^th, 2018 at 1:27pm:


Then what kind of Marxism is it?

https://www.gotquestions.org/cultural-Marxism.html

"Question: "What is cultural Marxism?"

Answer: Cultural Marxism can be a controversial term—some assert there’s no such thing, and others use the term as a catch-all for anything they see as undermining society. In short, cultural Marxism is a revolutionary leftist idea that traditional culture is the source of oppression in the modern world. Cultural Marxism is often linked to an insistence upon political correctness, multiculturalism, and perpetual attacks on the foundations of culture: the nuclear family, marriage, patriotism, traditional morality, law and order, etc. Cultural Marxists are assumed to be committed to establishing economic Marxism, in which case their cultural attacks are a necessary preparation for their ultimate goal."

What do you think lee? Just take a wild stab.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 20^th, 2018 at 1:32pm:


It really depends on where you stand in the political spectrum.  To me, the act of recognizing equal rights of same sex marriage, the decriminalization of homosexuality and LGBTI rights - they are essential of rule of law and order going to the new century.   Morality is ever changing with human society, as its infantile to think the morality of today's world is better off if its exactly the same as 1000 or 2000 years ago.   As a society, we need a balance of conservatism - e.g. care when changing core values, and progressiveness (change when needed for the better).   If our ancestors never dared to change our morality, our culture, then democracy will never have existed as it is today. 

And this is not new.  Both sides of the poltics, left and right, conservative vs progressive, capitalist or marxium, believe there are class divides in the society.   What modern democracy provide for us, is a environment where the differences between them can be negotiated and sought out through a one person one vote system.  So that we no longer have to resort to revolutions or tyranical oppression.  I firmy believe that in a democratic society, we need a balance of both.  Because, if we go extreme in one way or another, we risk ending up in a society that none of us would enjoy. 

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20^th, 2018 at 2:00pm:



Sound basic reasoning, though I disagree that 'SSM is 'equal marriage rights', it is, rather, a special dispensation - perhaps the issue is - at what point does a society become one in which the majority can no longer find joy?  And at that point, is not either revolution or tyrannical oppression the only 'solution' no matter how short term?

Not that long ago, simple 'joy' was going to a working week and going to the football or whatever on a weekend and knowing that eventually your efforts could/should/would (not always) be rewarded with a civilised retirement.... for a nation steeped in Great Depressions and World Wars and massive social changes upwards that began to procure some equality for all, that was simple joy... for many just to be alive....

Nowadays there is so much arbitrary and unilateral change going on - to favour one group over another without full consideration - that such simple 'joy' is hard to find... and (just an aside) many find it in violence, crime, and anti-social behaviour instead.  In that situation - of one-sided control .. yea - e'en unto Uberkontrol - can this not be squarely labeled Oppression requiring a drastic response?