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Sep 16th, 2018 at 6:22pm
 
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Hollywood Hypocrite Jim Carrey Called Out For Promoting Socialism – By A Journalist From Venezuela


During a recent appearance on the
Bill Maher show
, Hollywood multi-millionaire Jim Carrey suggested that Americans should embrace socialism.  Cheesy Cheesy

Apparently, now that he’s a wealthy man, he wants everyone else to embrace poverty.


Surprisingly, Carrey got called out for his comments by a journalist from Venezuela,
a country so damaged by socialism that people are resorting to eating their family pets and zoo animals.


LifeZette reports:

Journalist Goes Nuclear on Jim Carrey — Furious He Said Socialism Was Good


Just one mere week after actor-turned-activist Jim Carrey suggested people should say “say yes to socialism,” a Venezuelan journalist is pushing back hard on that suggestion.

“We have to say yes to socialism — to the word and everything,” Carrey, who is among the richest celebrities in all of Hollywood, declared last week on HBO’s “Real Time with Bill Maher” show.

“We have to stop apologizing,” he also said.

He made that comment after host Bill Maher expressed outrage that Republicans are attacking Democrats who veer toward the extreme and express a love for socialism —
a model of government that has destroyed other countries.


Venezuelan columnist Laureano Márquez, in a piece published in the outlet Runrunes,
declared that socialism is the root cause of that country’s current economic crisis…


“I read that … you said: ‘We have to say yes to socialism, to the word [‘socialism’] and to everything.’ Perhaps for you, as for all humanity, the word ‘socialism’ sounds beautiful,” he went on.

The Venezuelan writer then explained that while many people define socialism as “the antithesis of selfishness, synonym of concern for others … support for the weakest and their needs, of seeking health and education for all,”
in reality socialism today has “deep threats,”
said the writer.

Here’s more from Breitbart:

“In Venezuela, we have grown to hate the word socialism, it represents oppression against the people, the destruction of a flourishing nation, and the desperation of its citizens,”
Márquez concludes.

Why do so many people in the entertainment industry fancy themselves policy experts?


They come off like college sophomores who have just discovered political activism for the first time
.

In Carrey’s case in particular, his embrace of far left progressivism has severely damaged the public’s good will.

His recent lack of success at the box office is a reflection of that.


Syphilis has driven Carrey made....

so insane he wants Socialism..  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #1 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 6:35pm
 
Is there any opinion you hold that is your own Mech?

Clearly, you don't watch Real Time, that's far too an intellectual and fact-based piece of media for you so you won't have watched the entire segment, so you're just taking the word of a known fake news site taking quotes of his out of context then twisting his intentions to make an argument?

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Reply #2 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 6:41pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 6:35pm:
Is there any opinion you hold that is your own Mech?

Clearly, you don't watch Real Time, that's far too an intellectual and fact-based piece of media for you so you won't have watched the entire segment, so you're just taking the word of a known fake news site taking quotes of his out of context then twisting his intentions to make an argument?

Bravo.


what are you even talking about yo blithering retard... ??  Angry

Venezuela is in ruins because of Socialism you forkwit ...

the end...

it doesn't get any simpler than that...

your mummy should turn your computer off... special needs people don't understand the internet..  Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #3 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 6:48pm
 
the horror that is Venezuela has been going on for just a few short years....for a country that is loaded with OIL...

it didnt take Hugo Chavez  long to destroy their economy...

The price of a cup of coffee, measured using Bloomberg’s Café Con Leche Index, is now more than 2,000,000 bolivars. That is up from 1,400,000 bolivars last week and 190,000 in April. The 3-month annualized inflation rate is over 1,200,000%. That is hyperinflation not seen in the world since Germany in the 1920s or Zimbabwe in 2008.


says it all doesnt it?....a member of my extended family has a sister over there....has lived there for more than 30 years   she had a husband and son both dead  and now she is in some kind of hospital with dementia  they lost everything that owned..the family not living there are doing their best to get her out.....but its not simple....her son died last year up until then he had gone to America  and bought them food and meds. back.. now hes gone no one has any idea what is happening to her....


maybe someone should pay Jim to go there   and see what he is thinking is a good place  to be.. Angry Angry

for someone who live in Hollywood.. I agree what the hell would he know about socialism..

hes probably only looked at how the elite  socialists live....
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Reply #4 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 6:51pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 6:35pm:
Is there any opinion you hold that is your own Mech?

Clearly, you don't watch Real Time, that's far too an intellectual and fact-based piece of media for you so you won't have watched the entire segment, so you're just taking the word of a known fake news site taking quotes of his out of context then twisting his intentions to make an argument?

Bravo.



its not FAKE NEWS ABOUT VENEZUELA  I can assure you...

if you are supporting Jim!  perhaps you should read this..

https://www.forbes.com/sites/garthfriesen/2018/08/07/the-path-to-hyperinflation-...
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Reply #5 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 6:52pm
 
cods wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 6:48pm:
the horror that is Venezuela has been going on for just a few short years....for a country that is loaded with OIL...

it didnt take Hugo Chavez  long to destroy their economy...

The price of a cup of coffee, measured using Bloomberg’s Café Con Leche Index, is now more than 2,000,000 bolivars. That is up from 1,400,000 bolivars last week and 190,000 in April. The 3-month annualized inflation rate is over 1,200,000%. That is hyperinflation not seen in the world since Germany in the 1920s or Zimbabwe in 2008.


says it all doesnt it?....a member of my extended family has a sister over there....has lived there for more than 30 years   she had a husband and son both dead  and now she is in some kind of hospital with dementia  they lost everything that owned..the family not living there are doing their best to get her out.....but its not simple....her son died last year up until then he had gone to America  and bought them food and meds. back.. now hes gone no one has any idea what is happening to her....


maybe someone should pay Jim to go there   and see what he is thinking is a good place  to be.. Angry Angry

for someone who live in Hollywood.. I agree what the hell would he know about socialism..

hes probably only looked at how the elite  socialists live....


Nailed it cods...

real life situations ... people so desperate for the basic necessities ... food and basic medical care..

not too much to ask for ?? surely!!!  Angry
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Reply #6 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:18pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 6:41pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 6:35pm:
Is there any opinion you hold that is your own Mech?

Clearly, you don't watch Real Time, that's far too an intellectual and fact-based piece of media for you so you won't have watched the entire segment, so you're just taking the word of a known fake news site taking quotes of his out of context then twisting his intentions to make an argument?

Bravo.


what are you even talking about yo blithering retard... ??  Angry

Venezuela is in ruins because of Socialism you forkwit ...

the end...


it doesn't get any simpler than that...

your mummy should turn your computer off... special needs people don't understand the internet..  Cheesy Cheesy


Firstly, clearly, I hit a nerve to elicit such an insulting reply.  Yes, I'm a retard and I need my mummy to turn off my computer because I'm unable to use or understand the Internet.

But no matter how special I am, I can still research the facts and form my own opinions.

For you, who is told how to think (if you can call it thinking) by the like of TGP clearly isn't capable of individual thought or critical thinking, if I'm a "forkwit" and a "retard", what does that make you?

Secondly, your claims about Venezuela don't tell the full story, as usual.  But this time, I'm not sure if it's because you're being deliberately misleading to try and prove a point of if you're just too lazy or ignorant to research anything you're fed from the likes of TGP to get the full story.

There are so many mistakes in your claims that I'll only focus on the most glaring ones.

The progressives who you're claiming (well not "you're claiming" we've established the "opinions" you post aren't your own and you're simply "on script") are socialists are not actually advocating for true socialism.  That will never work in the US. 

But Socialist style policy to help level the playing field and have equality of opportunity for all Americans, everyone should want that.

Everyone.

Yes they support spending tax dollars people pay on services that will benefit others in the community not just the taxpayers via things like Universal Healthcare and in some of the more extreme (but some would argue future proofing given the changes in the jobs sector due to better AI and automation) a universal basic income, what forgetting is this is the entire point of the tax system.

Roads, Schools, looking after Veterans etc etc, these are all forms of Socialism going by your loose definition.

But more importantly, you hold Venezuela as the inevitable outcome of Socialism.

But what about Bolivia?

Since 2006, Bolivia has been run by socialists every bit as militant as Venezuela’s. But as economists have argued, the country has experienced a spectacular run of economic growth and poverty reduction with no hint of the chaos that has plagued Venezuela.

While inflation spirals toward the thousand-per cent mark in Venezuela, in Bolivia it runs below 4 per cent a year.

Shortages of basic consumption goods - rampant in Caracas - are unheard of in La Paz. And extreme poverty - now growing fast in Venezuela - affects just 17 per cent of Bolivians now, down from 38 per cent before the socialists took over 10 years ago, even as inequality shrinks dramatically.

In the meantime, Bolivia was running budget surpluses every year between 2006 and 2014. This allowed it to draw down the public sector’s debt, which fell from 83 per cent of GDP in 2003 to just 26 per cent in 2014, even as Bolivia built up its international reserves dramatically, from $1.7 billion in 2005 to $15.1 billion at the end of the boom in 2014.

Turns out the difference between Bolivia and Venezuela has nothing to do with abstract ideological labels, and everything to do with fiscal prudence. 

It also doesn't help that Venezuela is a dictatorship.

Socialism isn't the big bad evil you're claiming it to be.  It's not a death sentence for a country, quite the contrary.

The reason you have all these bad things to say about Socialism is because that's the official attack line against the Dems for the Midterms.

You clearly don't even understand the issue, hence your petty personal attacks.

Again, you're not thinking for yourself and just repeating the lines you've been fed.  You've demonstrated a glaring inability to comprehend the facts if you are even trying.

We might as well just replace you were with an auto-posting RSS bot just posting TGP blogs.

I won't bother insulting you as you've done me, the truth about you is far more shameful and insulting than any lame name calling.
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Reply #7 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:28pm
 
cods wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 6:51pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 6:35pm:
Is there any opinion you hold that is your own Mech?

Clearly, you don't watch Real Time, that's far too an intellectual and fact-based piece of media for you so you won't have watched the entire segment, so you're just taking the word of a known fake news site taking quotes of his out of context then twisting his intentions to make an argument?

Bravo.



its not FAKE NEWS ABOUT VENEZUELA  I can assure you...

if you are supporting Jim!  perhaps you should read this..

https://www.forbes.com/sites/garthfriesen/2018/08/07/the-path-to-hyperinflation-...


Their economic situation is a sad reality, but is it is because of socialism?

That's the question.

The answer isn't a definitive Yes.
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Reply #8 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:29pm
 
Would you like to offer your own opinion rather than copying and pasting kangaroo?

Did you know that Bolivia's GDP is about US$3000 per person? You have to be pretty desperate to try to spin that as an example of good economic management, don't you think?
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Reply #9 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:33pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:29pm:
Would you like to offer your own opinion rather than copying and pasting kangaroo?

Did you know that Bolivia's GDP is about US$3000 per person? You have to be pretty desperate to try to spin that as an example of good economic management, don't you think?


It's certainly not perfect by any means, but the idea that Socialism in general always leads to failure isn't 100% accurate.

And claiming that the Democrats are all about Socialism because they support Universal Healthcare is yet more disingenuous behaviour.

And when people are asked what sort of things they'd support they unknowingly, Republican or Democrat, support what is being called socialism.

Remember all the people that said that Obamacare had to go and Trump should replace it with the affordable health care act?

This hyper-partisanship will be the downfall of the US.
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Reply #10 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:34pm
 
Jim Carrey is also an anti-vaxxer who believes in homeopathic vaccines.

So now there's two things he believes in that doesn't work.
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Reply #11 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:44pm
 
Gordon wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:34pm:
Jim Carrey is also an anti-vaxxer who believes in homeopathic vaccines.

So now there's two things he believes in that doesn't work.


Yeah, that's pretty unforgivable.  I can't say I blame him given that his stepson is autistic and his mother, Jenny McCarthy wanted someone to blame for the afflictions.

But it's no excuse.  The danger that anti-vaxxers cause is unforgivable.
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Reply #12 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:50pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:44pm:
Gordon wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:34pm:
Jim Carrey is also an anti-vaxxer who believes in homeopathic vaccines.

So now there's two things he believes in that doesn't work.


Yeah, that's pretty unforgivable.  I can't say I blame him given that his stepson is autistic and his mother, Jenny McCarthy wanted someone to blame for the afflictions.

But it's no excuse.  The danger that anti-vaxxers cause is unforgivable.


My point is, Jimmy Carrey is good at making silly faces and making people laugh but please leave it at that.


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Reply #13 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:53pm
 
Gordon wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:50pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:44pm:
Gordon wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:34pm:
Jim Carrey is also an anti-vaxxer who believes in homeopathic vaccines.

So now there's two things he believes in that doesn't work.


Yeah, that's pretty unforgivable.  I can't say I blame him given that his stepson is autistic and his mother, Jenny McCarthy wanted someone to blame for the afflictions.

But it's no excuse.  The danger that anti-vaxxers cause is unforgivable.


My point is, Jimmy Carrey is good at making silly faces and making people laugh but please leave it at that.




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Reply #14 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 10:03pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:33pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:29pm:
Would you like to offer your own opinion rather than copying and pasting kangaroo?

Did you know that Bolivia's GDP is about US$3000 per person? You have to be pretty desperate to try to spin that as an example of good economic management, don't you think?


It's certainly not perfect by any means, but the idea that Socialism in general always leads to failure isn't 100% accurate.

And claiming that the Democrats are all about Socialism because they support Universal Healthcare is yet more disingenuous behaviour.

And when people are asked what sort of things they'd support they unknowingly, Republican or Democrat, support what is being called socialism.

Remember all the people that said that Obamacare had to go and Trump should replace it with the affordable health care act?

This hyper-partisanship will be the downfall of the US.


The Nazis name was derived from National Socialists - they were socialists who also called themselves "progressives". The left wing groups running around now most notably the Anti-fa radicals behave similarly.

The left wing has always been the most dangerous. Witness Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin. And now Zambia and South Africa. Socialism is a means of centralizing power dressed as fairness and compassion.

A system that increasingly steals peoples income by legalized taxation at gunpoint. Is doomed ultimately to fail because with increasing taxes eventually starts rebellion. Thus the need for increasing controls and in combination with high taxes kills peoples creativity and the will to strive. All progress depends on the individual.

Have you ever seen a socialist country reduce its taxes?


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Reply #15 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 10:53pm
 
But Socialist style policy to help level the playing field and have equality of opportunity for all Americans, everyone should want that. Quote Sad.

That's a well used phrase Sad but it doesn't reflect reality. On a sporting field - sure but people have very different abilities.

A great system places no impediments on those with talent. You can't lift those with no ability or desire - up.  Those with little ability have to work harder but as a result profit by the lessons they learnt. Gov programs that address these "disadvantages" are a waste of resources.

Government should go back to providing infrastructure, education, defense and thats all. Small government is good government.



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Reply #16 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 11:24pm
 
I love Jim Carrey as a Comedian/Actor

...but he's just another Media/Celebrity/Entertainer who knows absolutely nothing about Politics.
When will this ever end.
Bruce Springsteen, while in Melbourne, got 'political' ...and entered the 'idiot' talk of fame.
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The Americans With No Abilities Act (ANAA).


The Democratic Senate is considering sweeping legislation that will provide new benefits for many more Americans. The Americans With No Abilities Act is being hailed as a major legislative goal by advocates of the millions of Americans who lack any real skills and ambition.

“Roughly 50 percent of Americans do not possess the competence and drive necessary to carve out a meaningful role for themselves in society,” said California Sen. Barbara Boxer. “We can no longer stand by and allow People of Inability (POI) to be ridiculed and passed over. With this legislation, employers will no longer be able to grant special favors to a small group of workers, simply because they have some idea of what they are doing.”

In a Capitol Hill press conference, Nancy Pelosi pointed to the success of the U.S. Postal Service, which has a long-standing policy of providing opportunity without regard to performance. At the state government level, the Department of Motor Vehicles also has an excellent record of hiring Persons with No Ability (63 percent).

Under the Americans With No Abilities Act, more than 25 million mid-level positions will be created, with important-sounding titles but little real responsibility, thus providing an illusory sense of purpose and performance.

Mandatory non-performance-based raises and promotions will be given to guarantee upward mobility for even the most unremarkable employees. The legislation provides substantial tax breaks to corporations that promote a significant number of Persons of Inability (POI) into middle-management positions, and give a tax credit to small and medium-sized businesses that agree to hire one clueless worker for every two talented hires.

Finally, the Americans With No Abilities Act contains tough new measures to make it more difficult to discriminate against the non-abled, banning, for example, discriminatory interview questions such as, “Do you have any skills or experience that relate to this job?”

“As a non-abled person, I can’t be expected to keep up with people who have something going for them,” said Mary Lou Gertz, who lost her position as a lug-nut twister at the GM plant in Flint, Mich., due to her inability to remember “righty tighty, lefty loosey”. “This new law should be real good for people like me. I’ll finally have job security.” With the passage of this bill, Gertz and millions of other untalented citizens will finally see a light at the end of the tunnel.
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Said Sen. Dick Durbin, II: “As a senator with no abilities, I believe the same privileges that elected officials enjoy ought to be extended to every American with no abilities. It is our duty as lawmakers to provide each and every American citizen, regardless of his or her inadequacy, with some sort of space to take up in this great nation and a good salary for doing so.”

This message was approved by Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Diane Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, Maxine (WaWa) Waters & Nancy Pelosi.




The above is not a real piece of legislation but the problem with humor like this is Progressives will consider this a good idea!

Socialism in the US will have the same outcome as socialism in Venezuela! 

If you do not work you will not eat is replaced with you will eat while someone else shoulders your load. Sitting on your ass gets the same results as effort, the problem with this is after the producers understand the system they won't work either.
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Reply #18 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 11:31pm
 
Socialism, Communism work fine - for the 'people'
As long as it isn't 'Politics' that is ruling the people.

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Reply #19 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 11:44pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 11:25pm:
The Americans With No Abilities Act (ANAA).


The Democratic Senate is considering sweeping legislation that will provide new benefits for many more Americans. The Americans With No Abilities Act is being hailed as a major legislative goal by advocates of the millions of Americans who lack any real skills and ambition.

“Roughly 50 percent of Americans do not possess the competence and drive necessary to carve out a meaningful role for themselves in society,” said California Sen. Barbara Boxer. “We can no longer stand by and allow People of Inability (POI) to be ridiculed and passed over. With this legislation, employers will no longer be able to grant special favors to a small group of workers, simply because they have some idea of what they are doing.”

In a Capitol Hill press conference, Nancy Pelosi pointed to the success of the U.S. Postal Service, which has a long-standing policy of providing opportunity without regard to performance. At the state government level, the Department of Motor Vehicles also has an excellent record of hiring Persons with No Ability (63 percent).

Under the Americans With No Abilities Act, more than 25 million mid-level positions will be created, with important-sounding titles but little real responsibility, thus providing an illusory sense of purpose and performance.

Mandatory non-performance-based raises and promotions will be given to guarantee upward mobility for even the most unremarkable employees. The legislation provides substantial tax breaks to corporations that promote a significant number of Persons of Inability (POI) into middle-management positions, and give a tax credit to small and medium-sized businesses that agree to hire one clueless worker for every two talented hires.

Finally, the Americans With No Abilities Act contains tough new measures to make it more difficult to discriminate against the non-abled, banning, for example, discriminatory interview questions such as, “Do you have any skills or experience that relate to this job?”

“As a non-abled person, I can’t be expected to keep up with people who have something going for them,” said Mary Lou Gertz, who lost her position as a lug-nut twister at the GM plant in Flint, Mich., due to her inability to remember “righty tighty, lefty loosey”. “This new law should be real good for people like me. I’ll finally have job security.” With the passage of this bill, Gertz and millions of other untalented citizens will finally see a light at the end of the tunnel.
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Said Sen. Dick Durbin, II: “As a senator with no abilities, I believe the same privileges that elected officials enjoy ought to be extended to every American with no abilities. It is our duty as lawmakers to provide each and every American citizen, regardless of his or her inadequacy, with some sort of space to take up in this great nation and a good salary for doing so.”

This message was approved by Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Diane Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, Maxine (WaWa) Waters & Nancy Pelosi.




The above is not a real piece of legislation but the problem with humor like this is Progressives will consider this a good idea!

Socialism in the US will have the same outcome as socialism in Venezuela! 

If you do not work you will not eat is replaced with you will eat while someone else shoulders your load. Sitting on your ass gets the same results as effort, the problem with this is after the producers understand the system they won't work either.


LOL!

POI was made for Weak End!
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Jasin wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 11:31pm:
Socialism, Communism work fine - for the 'people'
As long as it isn't 'Politics' that is ruling the people.





You do all the work and I will share your paycheck with you. Communalism by any name doesn't work in the long term!
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Richdude wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 11:44pm:
LOL!

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Too true

Notice he hasn't posted in this thread - he's a progressive socialist, and trying to hide the fact

Trump himself has nothing to do with Longy's blithering, it's the change of political direction that upsets Longy, from globalist progressive socialism, which he likes ... to ... restoring the Republic, it's Constitution and Declaration of Independence, which Trump is doing
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People like Mechanic throw around the word "socialism" not knowing what they are referring to.

People need affordable health care, just like they need affordable education. That need isn't going away. If you think "the Market" can solve all the problems related to health care and education, you are fooling yourself.

We aren't talking about giving money away to the fat and lazy. We are talking about a platform that allows people to succeed: healthcare and education. That is what many of these nutjobs refer to as "socialism."
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Reply #23 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:43am
 
AiA wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 3:40am:
People like Mechanic throw around the word "socialism" not knowing what they are referring to.

People need affordable health care, just like they need affordable education. That need isn't going away. If you think "the Market" can solve all the problems related to health care and education, you are fooling yourself.

We aren't talking about giving money away to the fat and lazy. We are talking about a platform that allows people to succeed: healthcare and education. That is what many of these nutjobs refer to as "socialism."




Yep socialism does not equal communism.
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Reply #24 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:03am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 12:17am:
Jasin wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 11:31pm:
Socialism, Communism work fine - for the 'people'
As long as it isn't 'Politics' that is ruling the people.






You do all the work and I will share your paycheck with you. Communalism by any name doesn't work in the long term!


No. That's not real Communism.
It's 'we' do all the work.
What you just said is like what Australia has with NewStart.
Bludgers getting paid off a welfare that was designed for Battlers.
It's a 'trait' of Western Capitalism that it has an inability to 'discriminate' for fear of something like Apartheid and segregation: You 'bludgers' over there and 'Battlers' over here.
Communism 'makes' the Bludgers work too!
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Reply #26 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:21am
 
The problem with you clowns is your vision is limited to black and white. You dont even have shades of gray nevermind colour.  The difference between extreme capitalism and extreme socialism is a huge spectrum. Most successful economies use a mix of both. Capitalism drives and economy, but it is extremely harsh on those who dont succeed or who have disabilities or even just back luck.

Hence, socialism.

As long as capitalism is the driving force in the economy, adding socialist policies to the mix takes the edge off the damage it can cause to a lot of people. Universal Health Care is pure socialism and yet, who would oppose it? Freed public education is socialism, but without it, there would never be enough skilled workers for the economy. Welfare is pure socialism, but without it, 5% of the economy would be wealthy and the rest would be poor to extremely poor.

A mixed economy - capitalism and socialism - like we have in Australia is an outstanding success. We have the worlds 7th biggest economy and yet we have one of the worlds best health systems (shocking, i know!). The educational standards of our population are higher than the USA because we are willing to spend money on it.

The USA has the first worlds WORST health care system by a mile. It has a very poor public education system and the rate of poverty is again, worst in the developed world. Its prison population s triple that of any other first world country - a product of poverty and poor education.

You morons hate socialism, but you dont even know what it is you are opposing.

Venezuala is not the country for USA to compare itself with. Australia or Canada or Germany are the countries to compare and USA comes off very badly by comparison.
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Reply #27 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:26am
 
USSR:



Everyone 'worked'. The would-be 'Bludgers' were made to attain 'skills', get an education, learn a job and put to work for the Common Good of Communism and their fellow Comrades.

USSR would have been better if it wasn't a Nation that was heavily 'sieged' and 'sanctioned' by the West and its allies.
It was just a difference of opinion.

Now look at 'Russia' - its a fallen state of affairs. Crime, despondency, corruption have made it a nation of 'Bludgers' that is ruled over by (ras)Putin and his Mafia Gang. It's a nation without 'discipline'.
It's a nation that now lives in the shadows of Americanism and Capitalism.

It would have been a lot 'safer' for me to travel the USSR (as long as I followed 'their' rules, which is justified)
Than it is for me to travel Russia today.

Britain collects all its criminals, bludgers and undisciplined.
Takes them to Australia and 'puts them to work' as a new colony.
Alas, its the 'Americanism' that has infiltrated here that has turned into us into a nation of 'Bludgers' along with the British'ised 'Battlers'.
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Reply #28 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:28am
 
Jasin wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:26am:
USSR:



Everyone 'worked'. The would-be 'Bludgers' were made to attain 'skills', get an education, learn a job and put to work for the Common Good of Communism and their fellow Comrades.

USSR would have been better if it wasn't a Nation that was heavily 'sieged' and 'sanctioned' by the West and its allies.
It was just a difference of opinion.

Now look at 'Russia' - its a fallen state of affairs. Crime, despondency, corruption have made it a nation of 'Bludgers' that is ruled over by (ras)Putin and his Mafia Gang. It's a nation without 'discipline'.
It's a nation that now lives in the shadows of Americanism and Capitalism.

It would have been a lot 'safer' for me to travel the USSR (as long as I followed 'their' rules, which is justified)
Than it is for me to travel Russia today.

Britain collects all its criminals, bludgers and undisciplined.
Takes them to Australia and 'puts them to work' as a new colony.
Alas, its the 'Americanism' that has infiltrated here that has turned into us into a nation of 'Bludgers' along with the British'ised 'Battlers'.



Yeah...  applauding communism is really helping your argument.

twit.
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Reply #29 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:31am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:28am:
Jasin wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:26am:
USSR:



Everyone 'worked'. The would-be 'Bludgers' were made to attain 'skills', get an education, learn a job and put to work for the Common Good of Communism and their fellow Comrades.

USSR would have been better if it wasn't a Nation that was heavily 'sieged' and 'sanctioned' by the West and its allies.
It was just a difference of opinion.

Now look at 'Russia' - its a fallen state of affairs. Crime, despondency, corruption have made it a nation of 'Bludgers' that is ruled over by (ras)Putin and his Mafia Gang. It's a nation without 'discipline'.
It's a nation that now lives in the shadows of Americanism and Capitalism.

It would have been a lot 'safer' for me to travel the USSR (as long as I followed 'their' rules, which is justified)
Than it is for me to travel Russia today.

Britain collects all its criminals, bludgers and undisciplined.
Takes them to Australia and 'puts them to work' as a new colony.
Alas, its the 'Americanism' that has infiltrated here that has turned into us into a nation of 'Bludgers' along with the British'ised 'Battlers'.



Yeah...  applauding communism is really helping your argument.

twit.


Like I said (you 'twitter')

Communism would have worked if it wasn't Seiged and Sanctioned (no food on shelves, etc).
What if the USSR wasn't as 'isolated' as it was, with just the likes of Cuba (seemed to do better than the USA for its people), China and a 'few' others?

The USSR would have 'prospered'.
Australian 'Egalitarianism' (Middle-Class: No rich or Poor) is not much different.

Maybe Communism is fine, but it was just in the wrong place and time.
...maybe it will succeed here, where Russia 'failed'?
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Reply #30 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:39am
 
Jasin wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:31am:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:28am:
Jasin wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:26am:
USSR:



Everyone 'worked'. The would-be 'Bludgers' were made to attain 'skills', get an education, learn a job and put to work for the Common Good of Communism and their fellow Comrades.

USSR would have been better if it wasn't a Nation that was heavily 'sieged' and 'sanctioned' by the West and its allies.
It was just a difference of opinion.

Now look at 'Russia' - its a fallen state of affairs. Crime, despondency, corruption have made it a nation of 'Bludgers' that is ruled over by (ras)Putin and his Mafia Gang. It's a nation without 'discipline'.
It's a nation that now lives in the shadows of Americanism and Capitalism.

It would have been a lot 'safer' for me to travel the USSR (as long as I followed 'their' rules, which is justified)
Than it is for me to travel Russia today.

Britain collects all its criminals, bludgers and undisciplined.
Takes them to Australia and 'puts them to work' as a new colony.
Alas, its the 'Americanism' that has infiltrated here that has turned into us into a nation of 'Bludgers' along with the British'ised 'Battlers'.



Yeah...  applauding communism is really helping your argument.

twit.


Like I said (you 'twitter')

Communism would have worked if it wasn't Seiged and Sanctioned (no food on shelves, etc).
What if the USSR wasn't as 'isolated' as it was, with just the likes of Cuba (seemed to do better than the USA for its people), China and a 'few' others?

The USSR would have 'prospered'.
Australian 'Egalitarianism' (Middle-Class: No rich or Poor) is not much different.

Maybe Communism is fine, but it was just in the wrong place and time.
...maybe it will succeed here, where Russia 'failed'?


read some history, you utter ignorant twat.

EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY that has embraced communism has failed or had a much lower standard of life than capitalist countries. Cuba is often touted as an example - the only one - of a successful communist country, but then you would need to explain why so many thousands risked their lives to flee. Or the absence of any kind of political or religious freedom and why so many people just 'disappeared'.

Communism fails because it is founded on a flawed idea that people will all work together for the common good like in some Star Trek utopia. It has never worked and never will.

try researching the topic next tim.
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Gee. At least you posted something 'informative' of opinion, besides your usual 'short attention span' of a one line insult. Well done, you're improving.

Besides the 'propaganda' of America touting 'thousands' wish to flee the evil Cuba and rejoice in the light of America.
Millions more were very happy to live in Cuba.

Isolationism doesn't help and the Communism movement just didn't have the numbers against Capitalism.
Seige and Sanctions wouldn't help anyone's cause - even if it was a Capitalist nation.

Capitalism is a minority getting rich off 'bludgers'.

What you're saying is that Catholicism is the 'only' way and that Protestantism is flawed and wrong.
...that's me thinking you know the 'difference' between the two?  Huh

Catholic Priest: In it for the money (wealth for the Individual)
Catholic Mass: in it for the sex (mass breeding)

Protestant Priest: In it for the sex (breeding)
Protestant Mass: In it for the money (wealth for the people).

I bet you can't tell which one is which between Aust & USA.
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Reply #32 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 11:27am
 
aquascoot wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:14am:




So conservative nutcase comments on socialism. Shock.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 11:27am:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:14am:




So conservative nutcase comments on socialism. Shock.



future president.
one of the sharpest minds in the USA.
when you are a dull and mediocre person, you cant think up a proper critique so you just label him a "nutcase". Wink
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Reply #34 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 11:40am
 
aquascoot wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 11:35am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 11:27am:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:14am:




So conservative nutcase comments on socialism. Shock.



future president.
one of the sharpest minds in the USA.
when you are a dull and mediocre person, you cant think up a proper critique so you just label him a "nutcase". Wink
back to your mummys basement for you



Looking at his histroy you can see the confirmation bias. E.g. he wrote about bias in universities before he'd even been to university. Plus what he espouses is essentially nothing new.

He is in favor of privatizing social security, criminalizing abortion, and repealing the Affordable Care Act.[29]


Yep, nothing new. You can't be one of the sharpest minds in the USAwhen all you do is rehash poo everyone else has spouted.

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Reply #35 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 11:53am
 
Jasin wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:31am:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:28am:
Jasin wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:26am:
USSR:



Everyone 'worked'. The would-be 'Bludgers' were made to attain 'skills', get an education, learn a job and put to work for the Common Good of Communism and their fellow Comrades.

USSR would have been better if it wasn't a Nation that was heavily 'sieged' and 'sanctioned' by the West and its allies.
It was just a difference of opinion.

Now look at 'Russia' - its a fallen state of affairs. Crime, despondency, corruption have made it a nation of 'Bludgers' that is ruled over by (ras)Putin and his Mafia Gang. It's a nation without 'discipline'.
It's a nation that now lives in the shadows of Americanism and Capitalism.

It would have been a lot 'safer' for me to travel the USSR (as long as I followed 'their' rules, which is justified)
Than it is for me to travel Russia today.

Britain collects all its criminals, bludgers and undisciplined.
Takes them to Australia and 'puts them to work' as a new colony.
Alas, its the 'Americanism' that has infiltrated here that has turned into us into a nation of 'Bludgers' along with the British'ised 'Battlers'.



Yeah...  applauding communism is really helping your argument.

twit.


Like I said (you 'twitter')

Communism would have worked if it wasn't Seiged and Sanctioned (no food on shelves, etc).
What if the USSR wasn't as 'isolated' as it was, with just the likes of Cuba (seemed to do better than the USA for its people), China and a 'few' others?

The USSR would have 'prospered'.
Australian 'Egalitarianism' (Middle-Class: No rich or Poor) is not much different.

Maybe Communism is fine, but it was just in the wrong place and time.
...maybe it will succeed here, where Russia 'failed'?


Communism was only ever applied by Marx to developed, capitalist countries.

China now believes it has to apply a capitalist model before it can be properly socialist. Mao had completely different ideas, placing him outside the conventional Marxist model.
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Reply #36 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 12:35pm
 
Jasin wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:47am:
Gee. At least you posted something 'informative' of opinion, besides your usual 'short attention span' of a one line insult. Well done, you're improving.

Besides the 'propaganda' of America touting 'thousands' wish to flee the evil Cuba and rejoice in the light of America.
Millions more were very happy to live in Cuba.

Isolationism doesn't help and the Communism movement just didn't have the numbers against Capitalism.
Seige and Sanctions wouldn't help anyone's cause - even if it was a Capitalist nation.

Capitalism is a minority getting rich off 'bludgers'.

What you're saying is that Catholicism is the 'only' way and that Protestantism is flawed and wrong.
...that's me thinking you know the 'difference' between the two?  Huh

Catholic Priest: In it for the money (wealth for the Individual)
Catholic Mass: in it for the sex (mass breeding)

Protestant Priest: In it for the sex (breeding)
Protestant Mass: In it for the money (wealth for the people).

I bet you can't tell which one is which between Aust & USA.
Grin



So Cuban refugees are just fake news???

Well, that is your credibility completely shredded. comrade.

Time to enter the 21st century, Che.
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If Jim Carrey cares about equality in western society he should put his money where his mouth is and give up his mansions and millions. Bloody hypocrite.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
If Jim Carrey cares about equality in western society he should put his money where his mouth is and give up his mansions and millions. Bloody hypocrite.


People like him already give huge amounts to other people. Bill Gates has given away $50B and intends to give another $80B away.

how's your $2 donation going?
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Is there any opinion you hold that is your own Mech?

Clearly, you don't watch Real Time, that's far too an intellectual and fact-based piece of media for you so you won't have watched the entire segment, so you're just taking the word of a known fake news site taking quotes of his out of context then twisting his intentions to make an argument?

Bravo.

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The Americans With No Abilities Act (ANAA).


The Democratic Senate is considering sweeping legislation that will provide new benefits for many more Americans. The Americans With No Abilities Act is being hailed as a major legislative goal by advocates of the millions of Americans who lack any real skills and ambition.

“Roughly 50 percent of Americans do not possess the competence and drive necessary to carve out a meaningful role for themselves in society,” said California Sen. Barbara Boxer. “We can no longer stand by and allow People of Inability (POI) to be ridiculed and passed over. With this legislation, employers will no longer be able to grant special favors to a small group of workers, simply because they have some idea of what they are doing.”

In a Capitol Hill press conference, Nancy Pelosi pointed to the success of the U.S. Postal Service, which has a long-standing policy of providing opportunity without regard to performance. At the state government level, the Department of Motor Vehicles also has an excellent record of hiring Persons with No Ability (63 percent).

Under the Americans With No Abilities Act, more than 25 million mid-level positions will be created, with important-sounding titles but little real responsibility, thus providing an illusory sense of purpose and performance.

Mandatory non-performance-based raises and promotions will be given to guarantee upward mobility for even the most unremarkable employees. The legislation provides substantial tax breaks to corporations that promote a significant number of Persons of Inability (POI) into middle-management positions, and give a tax credit to small and medium-sized businesses that agree to hire one clueless worker for every two talented hires.

Finally, the Americans With No Abilities Act contains tough new measures to make it more difficult to discriminate against the non-abled, banning, for example, discriminatory interview questions such as, “Do you have any skills or experience that relate to this job?”

“As a non-abled person, I can’t be expected to keep up with people who have something going for them,” said Mary Lou Gertz, who lost her position as a lug-nut twister at the GM plant in Flint, Mich., due to her inability to remember “righty tighty, lefty loosey”. “This new law should be real good for people like me. I’ll finally have job security.” With the passage of this bill, Gertz and millions of other untalented citizens will finally see a light at the end of the tunnel.
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Said Sen. Dick Durbin, II: “As a senator with no abilities, I believe the same privileges that elected officials enjoy ought to be extended to every American with no abilities. It is our duty as lawmakers to provide each and every American citizen, regardless of his or her inadequacy, with some sort of space to take up in this great nation and a good salary for doing so.”

This message was approved by Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Diane Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, Maxine (WaWa) Waters & Nancy Pelosi.




The above is not a real piece of legislation but the problem with humor like this is Progressives will consider this a good idea!

Socialism in the US will have the same outcome as socialism in Venezuela! 

If you do not work you will not eat is replaced with you will eat while someone else shoulders your load. Sitting on your ass gets the same results as effort, the problem with this is after the producers understand the system they won't work either.

Um, wtf?
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