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Reply #15 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 10:53pm
 
But Socialist style policy to help level the playing field and have equality of opportunity for all Americans, everyone should want that. Quote Sad.

That's a well used phrase Sad but it doesn't reflect reality. On a sporting field - sure but people have very different abilities.

A great system places no impediments on those with talent. You can't lift those with no ability or desire - up.  Those with little ability have to work harder but as a result profit by the lessons they learnt. Gov programs that address these "disadvantages" are a waste of resources.

Government should go back to providing infrastructure, education, defense and thats all. Small government is good government.



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Reply #16 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 11:24pm
 
I love Jim Carrey as a Comedian/Actor

...but he's just another Media/Celebrity/Entertainer who knows absolutely nothing about Politics.
When will this ever end.
Bruce Springsteen, while in Melbourne, got 'political' ...and entered the 'idiot' talk of fame.
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Reply #17 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 11:25pm
 
The Americans With No Abilities Act (ANAA).


The Democratic Senate is considering sweeping legislation that will provide new benefits for many more Americans. The Americans With No Abilities Act is being hailed as a major legislative goal by advocates of the millions of Americans who lack any real skills and ambition.

“Roughly 50 percent of Americans do not possess the competence and drive necessary to carve out a meaningful role for themselves in society,” said California Sen. Barbara Boxer. “We can no longer stand by and allow People of Inability (POI) to be ridiculed and passed over. With this legislation, employers will no longer be able to grant special favors to a small group of workers, simply because they have some idea of what they are doing.”

In a Capitol Hill press conference, Nancy Pelosi pointed to the success of the U.S. Postal Service, which has a long-standing policy of providing opportunity without regard to performance. At the state government level, the Department of Motor Vehicles also has an excellent record of hiring Persons with No Ability (63 percent).

Under the Americans With No Abilities Act, more than 25 million mid-level positions will be created, with important-sounding titles but little real responsibility, thus providing an illusory sense of purpose and performance.

Mandatory non-performance-based raises and promotions will be given to guarantee upward mobility for even the most unremarkable employees. The legislation provides substantial tax breaks to corporations that promote a significant number of Persons of Inability (POI) into middle-management positions, and give a tax credit to small and medium-sized businesses that agree to hire one clueless worker for every two talented hires.

Finally, the Americans With No Abilities Act contains tough new measures to make it more difficult to discriminate against the non-abled, banning, for example, discriminatory interview questions such as, “Do you have any skills or experience that relate to this job?”

“As a non-abled person, I can’t be expected to keep up with people who have something going for them,” said Mary Lou Gertz, who lost her position as a lug-nut twister at the GM plant in Flint, Mich., due to her inability to remember “righty tighty, lefty loosey”. “This new law should be real good for people like me. I’ll finally have job security.” With the passage of this bill, Gertz and millions of other untalented citizens will finally see a light at the end of the tunnel.
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Said Sen. Dick Durbin, II: “As a senator with no abilities, I believe the same privileges that elected officials enjoy ought to be extended to every American with no abilities. It is our duty as lawmakers to provide each and every American citizen, regardless of his or her inadequacy, with some sort of space to take up in this great nation and a good salary for doing so.”

This message was approved by Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Diane Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, Maxine (WaWa) Waters & Nancy Pelosi.




The above is not a real piece of legislation but the problem with humor like this is Progressives will consider this a good idea!

Socialism in the US will have the same outcome as socialism in Venezuela! 

If you do not work you will not eat is replaced with you will eat while someone else shoulders your load. Sitting on your ass gets the same results as effort, the problem with this is after the producers understand the system they won't work either.
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Reply #18 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 11:31pm
 
Socialism, Communism work fine - for the 'people'
As long as it isn't 'Politics' that is ruling the people.

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Reply #19 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 11:44pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 11:25pm:
The Americans With No Abilities Act (ANAA).


The Democratic Senate is considering sweeping legislation that will provide new benefits for many more Americans. The Americans With No Abilities Act is being hailed as a major legislative goal by advocates of the millions of Americans who lack any real skills and ambition.

“Roughly 50 percent of Americans do not possess the competence and drive necessary to carve out a meaningful role for themselves in society,” said California Sen. Barbara Boxer. “We can no longer stand by and allow People of Inability (POI) to be ridiculed and passed over. With this legislation, employers will no longer be able to grant special favors to a small group of workers, simply because they have some idea of what they are doing.”

In a Capitol Hill press conference, Nancy Pelosi pointed to the success of the U.S. Postal Service, which has a long-standing policy of providing opportunity without regard to performance. At the state government level, the Department of Motor Vehicles also has an excellent record of hiring Persons with No Ability (63 percent).

Under the Americans With No Abilities Act, more than 25 million mid-level positions will be created, with important-sounding titles but little real responsibility, thus providing an illusory sense of purpose and performance.

Mandatory non-performance-based raises and promotions will be given to guarantee upward mobility for even the most unremarkable employees. The legislation provides substantial tax breaks to corporations that promote a significant number of Persons of Inability (POI) into middle-management positions, and give a tax credit to small and medium-sized businesses that agree to hire one clueless worker for every two talented hires.

Finally, the Americans With No Abilities Act contains tough new measures to make it more difficult to discriminate against the non-abled, banning, for example, discriminatory interview questions such as, “Do you have any skills or experience that relate to this job?”

“As a non-abled person, I can’t be expected to keep up with people who have something going for them,” said Mary Lou Gertz, who lost her position as a lug-nut twister at the GM plant in Flint, Mich., due to her inability to remember “righty tighty, lefty loosey”. “This new law should be real good for people like me. I’ll finally have job security.” With the passage of this bill, Gertz and millions of other untalented citizens will finally see a light at the end of the tunnel.
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Said Sen. Dick Durbin, II: “As a senator with no abilities, I believe the same privileges that elected officials enjoy ought to be extended to every American with no abilities. It is our duty as lawmakers to provide each and every American citizen, regardless of his or her inadequacy, with some sort of space to take up in this great nation and a good salary for doing so.”

This message was approved by Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Diane Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, Maxine (WaWa) Waters & Nancy Pelosi.




The above is not a real piece of legislation but the problem with humor like this is Progressives will consider this a good idea!

Socialism in the US will have the same outcome as socialism in Venezuela! 

If you do not work you will not eat is replaced with you will eat while someone else shoulders your load. Sitting on your ass gets the same results as effort, the problem with this is after the producers understand the system they won't work either.


LOL!

POI was made for Weak End!
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Reply #20 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 12:17am
 
Jasin wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 11:31pm:
Socialism, Communism work fine - for the 'people'
As long as it isn't 'Politics' that is ruling the people.





You do all the work and I will share your paycheck with you. Communalism by any name doesn't work in the long term!
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Reply #21 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 12:43am
 
Richdude wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 11:44pm:
LOL!

POI was made for Weak End!



Too true

Notice he hasn't posted in this thread - he's a progressive socialist, and trying to hide the fact

Trump himself has nothing to do with Longy's blithering, it's the change of political direction that upsets Longy, from globalist progressive socialism, which he likes ... to ... restoring the Republic, it's Constitution and Declaration of Independence, which Trump is doing
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Reply #22 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 3:40am
 
People like Mechanic throw around the word "socialism" not knowing what they are referring to.

People need affordable health care, just like they need affordable education. That need isn't going away. If you think "the Market" can solve all the problems related to health care and education, you are fooling yourself.

We aren't talking about giving money away to the fat and lazy. We are talking about a platform that allows people to succeed: healthcare and education. That is what many of these nutjobs refer to as "socialism."
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Reply #23 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:43am
 
AiA wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 3:40am:
People like Mechanic throw around the word "socialism" not knowing what they are referring to.

People need affordable health care, just like they need affordable education. That need isn't going away. If you think "the Market" can solve all the problems related to health care and education, you are fooling yourself.

We aren't talking about giving money away to the fat and lazy. We are talking about a platform that allows people to succeed: healthcare and education. That is what many of these nutjobs refer to as "socialism."




Yep socialism does not equal communism.
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Reply #24 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:03am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 12:17am:
Jasin wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 11:31pm:
Socialism, Communism work fine - for the 'people'
As long as it isn't 'Politics' that is ruling the people.






You do all the work and I will share your paycheck with you. Communalism by any name doesn't work in the long term!


No. That's not real Communism.
It's 'we' do all the work.
What you just said is like what Australia has with NewStart.
Bludgers getting paid off a welfare that was designed for Battlers.
It's a 'trait' of Western Capitalism that it has an inability to 'discriminate' for fear of something like Apartheid and segregation: You 'bludgers' over there and 'Battlers' over here.
Communism 'makes' the Bludgers work too!
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Reply #26 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:21am
 
The problem with you clowns is your vision is limited to black and white. You dont even have shades of gray nevermind colour.  The difference between extreme capitalism and extreme socialism is a huge spectrum. Most successful economies use a mix of both. Capitalism drives and economy, but it is extremely harsh on those who dont succeed or who have disabilities or even just back luck.

Hence, socialism.

As long as capitalism is the driving force in the economy, adding socialist policies to the mix takes the edge off the damage it can cause to a lot of people. Universal Health Care is pure socialism and yet, who would oppose it? Freed public education is socialism, but without it, there would never be enough skilled workers for the economy. Welfare is pure socialism, but without it, 5% of the economy would be wealthy and the rest would be poor to extremely poor.

A mixed economy - capitalism and socialism - like we have in Australia is an outstanding success. We have the worlds 7th biggest economy and yet we have one of the worlds best health systems (shocking, i know!). The educational standards of our population are higher than the USA because we are willing to spend money on it.

The USA has the first worlds WORST health care system by a mile. It has a very poor public education system and the rate of poverty is again, worst in the developed world. Its prison population s triple that of any other first world country - a product of poverty and poor education.

You morons hate socialism, but you dont even know what it is you are opposing.

Venezuala is not the country for USA to compare itself with. Australia or Canada or Germany are the countries to compare and USA comes off very badly by comparison.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #27 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:26am
 
USSR:



Everyone 'worked'. The would-be 'Bludgers' were made to attain 'skills', get an education, learn a job and put to work for the Common Good of Communism and their fellow Comrades.

USSR would have been better if it wasn't a Nation that was heavily 'sieged' and 'sanctioned' by the West and its allies.
It was just a difference of opinion.

Now look at 'Russia' - its a fallen state of affairs. Crime, despondency, corruption have made it a nation of 'Bludgers' that is ruled over by (ras)Putin and his Mafia Gang. It's a nation without 'discipline'.
It's a nation that now lives in the shadows of Americanism and Capitalism.

It would have been a lot 'safer' for me to travel the USSR (as long as I followed 'their' rules, which is justified)
Than it is for me to travel Russia today.

Britain collects all its criminals, bludgers and undisciplined.
Takes them to Australia and 'puts them to work' as a new colony.
Alas, its the 'Americanism' that has infiltrated here that has turned into us into a nation of 'Bludgers' along with the British'ised 'Battlers'.
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Reply #28 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:28am
 
Jasin wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:26am:
USSR:



Everyone 'worked'. The would-be 'Bludgers' were made to attain 'skills', get an education, learn a job and put to work for the Common Good of Communism and their fellow Comrades.

USSR would have been better if it wasn't a Nation that was heavily 'sieged' and 'sanctioned' by the West and its allies.
It was just a difference of opinion.

Now look at 'Russia' - its a fallen state of affairs. Crime, despondency, corruption have made it a nation of 'Bludgers' that is ruled over by (ras)Putin and his Mafia Gang. It's a nation without 'discipline'.
It's a nation that now lives in the shadows of Americanism and Capitalism.

It would have been a lot 'safer' for me to travel the USSR (as long as I followed 'their' rules, which is justified)
Than it is for me to travel Russia today.

Britain collects all its criminals, bludgers and undisciplined.
Takes them to Australia and 'puts them to work' as a new colony.
Alas, its the 'Americanism' that has infiltrated here that has turned into us into a nation of 'Bludgers' along with the British'ised 'Battlers'.



Yeah...  applauding communism is really helping your argument.

twit.
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Reply #29 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:31am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:28am:
Jasin wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:26am:
USSR:



Everyone 'worked'. The would-be 'Bludgers' were made to attain 'skills', get an education, learn a job and put to work for the Common Good of Communism and their fellow Comrades.

USSR would have been better if it wasn't a Nation that was heavily 'sieged' and 'sanctioned' by the West and its allies.
It was just a difference of opinion.

Now look at 'Russia' - its a fallen state of affairs. Crime, despondency, corruption have made it a nation of 'Bludgers' that is ruled over by (ras)Putin and his Mafia Gang. It's a nation without 'discipline'.
It's a nation that now lives in the shadows of Americanism and Capitalism.

It would have been a lot 'safer' for me to travel the USSR (as long as I followed 'their' rules, which is justified)
Than it is for me to travel Russia today.

Britain collects all its criminals, bludgers and undisciplined.
Takes them to Australia and 'puts them to work' as a new colony.
Alas, its the 'Americanism' that has infiltrated here that has turned into us into a nation of 'Bludgers' along with the British'ised 'Battlers'.



Yeah...  applauding communism is really helping your argument.

twit.


Like I said (you 'twitter')

Communism would have worked if it wasn't Seiged and Sanctioned (no food on shelves, etc).
What if the USSR wasn't as 'isolated' as it was, with just the likes of Cuba (seemed to do better than the USA for its people), China and a 'few' others?

The USSR would have 'prospered'.
Australian 'Egalitarianism' (Middle-Class: No rich or Poor) is not much different.

Maybe Communism is fine, but it was just in the wrong place and time.
...maybe it will succeed here, where Russia 'failed'?
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