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Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:38am
 
Criminals faking Malaysian identities to obtain Australia visas, exploiting cosy international relationship

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Criminal syndicates are using counterfeiting networks in Malaysia to smuggle people into Australia, exploiting a relaxed visa agreement between the countries.

About 10,500 people from Malaysia are in Australia unlawfully — significantly more than any other country.

Malaysian passport holders enjoy an easier passage to Australia than people from almost anywhere else — a process that Department of Home Affairs officials have described as "the lightest touch."

But an ABC investigation has uncovered that people smugglers have helped nationals of other countries assume fake Malaysian identities so they can enter Australia the same way.

A Vietnamese man who spent five months in Malaysia awaiting documents to travel to Australia has spoken to the ABC about his ordeal.

Until last month, he was trapped with 37 other people from Vietnam in a hotel in Kuala Lumpur — all of whom had been promised safe passage to Australia and a job once they arrived.

"They said that it's easier here [in Malaysia] and I would not get my Australian visa if I submitted my application from Vietnam," the man told the ABC.

Citizens of most other ASEAN countries can travel to Malaysia without a visa. Once there, a passport can be fraudulently obtained in Malaysia for as little as $1300, according to Malaysian national security expert Andrin Raj.

Those ASEAN countries include Vietnam, Indonesia and the Philippines, whose citizens come under far more scrutiny when applying to travel to Australia than those from Malaysia.

This combination of an easy passage into Malaysia and an easy way to obtain false identification makes Malaysia the perfect staging ground for people smugglers, according to former Australian Border Force Commissioner Roman Quaedvlieg.

"It's a system that's corrupt inherently," Mr Quaedvlieg told the ABC.

Concerns terrorists could exploit system

Malaysian authorities have purged some corrupt officials involved in counterfeiting networks, but remain troubled by the scale of the problem and the threat it poses to national security.

Islamic State-linked extremists from the Philippines have been found living in the country with fake Malaysian identification, the New Straits Times reported in February.

Australian authorities are deeply concerned extremists from Indonesia and the Philippines may slip into the country using Malaysian identification, according to Mr Quaedvlieg.

It is understood some Malaysians with extremist links have already travelled to Australia on the same tourist visas.

In 2016, the ABF launched a crackdown on visa overstayers sparked by suspicious money transfers made by several Malaysian men working illegally on Victorian farms.

The men were suspected of sending money to Middle East-based extremists, and were deported, a Border Force source told the ABC.

Operation Bonasus was launched. Targeting overstayers, it uncovered widespread visa rorting, and almost 290 people were detained.


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People smugglers are still in business — two years after the launch of Bonasus — because of desperate men like Tran* (not his real name).

He is aged in his 20s and from the north-central Vietnamese province of Nghe An.

His wife is pregnant with their first child and Tran wanted to work in Australia so he could earn as much as possible to support his family.

A family member introduced Tran to a smuggler who promised he could get him to Australia.

The smuggler told him he could work for 10 years in Australia if he used his services to travel to Malaysia first.

Tran arrived in Kuala Lumpur in March and hoped to be working in Australia only two weeks later.

But by August, he was still waiting in his $20 per night hotel.

His Malaysian tourist visa expired after a month, so he did not want to stray far from the hotel in case he was detained.

The smugglers — a Malaysian man and a Vietnamese man — were also staying in the hotel and had taken his Vietnamese passport, saying they needed it to organise his Malaysian documents.

Tran was trapped. He said 37 other Vietnamese men and women who also planned to work in Australia were in the hotel with him.

"I just wait and do nothing, because I have no passport and no money," he said, via a translator.

Tran said he paid the smugglers about $50,000 and said others paid similar amounts.

Some had taken out loans to pay the smugglers and would have to sell their houses in Vietnam to repay the loans if they were unable to travel to Australia and work.

Others had even brought the titles for their properties or vehicles to help pay for any additional costs, as they had spent all their cash just to get to Malaysia.

The smugglers made the group sign contracts that committed them to working on a farm in Australia for the syndicate after they arrived.

Tran said that it was well-known in his province there was little prospect of being able to travel to Australia legally from Vietnam, but the syndicate promised they had a way.

"They said that if I applied through their company, I would not need to worry about anything", he said.

Footage covertly filmed by Tran in July shows the Malaysian and Vietnamese organisers promising the group they would travel to Melbourne within days.

"You all have to work there, in the city of Melbourne," the Malaysian smuggler said in the video.

In the same video, the Vietnamese smuggler tries to assure the group that despite the delay, everything was going smoothly.

"All steps have been completed," he said. "It's time to reap what you sow."

But in late August, Tran and two others convinced the smugglers to hand back their passports so they could return to Vietnam. He flew home days later, and has not heard from the others about whether they made it to Australia.


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Malaysia's rise as a source country for people who are illegally in Australia has accelerated in recent years.

The ABF would not provide a historical breakdown of figures, but it is believed the number of Malaysian unlawful non-citizens has almost doubled since 2015. The ABF said the total number of overstayers has remained "relatively static" at about 63,000.

Malaysia is one of only eight countries whose citizens can apply for an Electronic Travel Authority visa online. Those visas can be granted in a matter of hours.

James Copeman, the ABF field and removal operations commander, told the Joint Standing Committee on Migration in June that more than 300 people were refused entry to Australia as part of Bonasus.

He did not clarify why their entry was blocked, including whether any were found to have fraudulent passports.

Christine Dacey, a first assistant secretary at the Department of Home Affairs, told the same committee hearing that the ETAs were "probably the lightest touch visa that we offer".

"Malaysia is one of the countries that has access to it. I think it would be fair to say that we have identified ... that there is an issue there," she said.

Neither official outlined steps taken by the department — other than Bonasus, which is no longer running — to stop the flow of people arriving from Malaysia to work illegally in Australia.

A Department of Home Affairs insider, who could not be identified as he was speaking without authorisation, believes there has been a crackdown at airports

He said Home Affairs officers — particularly in Melbourne — are increasingly turning away Malaysian passport holders.

The insider said Malaysians were renowned for returning to Australia with a passport in a slightly different name only months after they had been deported for working illegally, using the same counterfeiting networks that had been exploited by people from other countries.

Fingerprints taken when they were first deported confirmed they were the same person.

The insider said it was almost impossible to detect someone travelling with a fraudulently obtained passport, as Australian authorities were unable to determine the legitimacy of the documents used to grant it.

This underlined the department's push to increasingly use controversial biometric technology, he said, including facial recognition software, which gave them another tool to uncover fraud.

The department said it was working closely with the Malaysian government to prevent people using fraudulently obtained passports to enter Australia. Part of the measures put in place include employing Airline Liaison Officers in Malaysia to monitor flights to Australia.

"ALOs are highly skilled in document examination, impostor detection and passenger assessment," the ABF said.

The officers prevented the travel of 37 Malaysian nationals, the ABF said, but it could not clarify whether any of those individuals had fraudulently obtained passports.

The Malaysia embassy in Australia and officials in Malaysia declined to comment on what was being done to counteract passport fraud or people smuggling.

Migration agents: part of the problem and the solution

Jason Wood, the chair of the Joint Standing Committee on Migration, believes organised criminals are involved in the movement of people from Malaysia to Australia and there is only so much Australian authorities can do to halt the flow.

His committee is currently investigating the role of migration agents, who often lodge applications for protection visas for Malaysians arriving in Australia on an ETA visa.

Mr Wood believes the applications represent an orchestrated scam that gives those who apply work rights in Australia until their claims are finalised, a process that can take eight years. The committee was alerted to the problem by migration agents.

Applications by Malaysians have increased from 4800 to 9060 in the past two years.

"Any time you can make money, organised crime groups will get involved and that's precisely what's happened here," Mr Wood said.

Migration agent Libby Hogarth said she told the Department of Home Affairs in 2016 that Malaysians were rorting ETA visas on a grand scale.

Ms Hogarth, a migration agent for more than 25 years who does much of her work at farms along the Murray River, dismisses the rhetoric about Operation Sovereign Borders putting people smugglers out of business.

Her first thought, after 15 Malaysians approached her on a visit to the Riverland in South Australia at least two years ago, was that "the people smugglers who have lost their work in Indonesia have moved on to a different model."
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Reply #3 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:45am
 
Well this is awkward,  but but but the boats have stopped.....  For a couple of weeks
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Reply #4 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 10:08am
 
This is a disgrace cods we need Busty Bill in power to sort this out!

Strange none of you Lib Lovers hadn't noticed this was going on!

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Reply #5 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 10:49am
 
I've posted about the high number of illegal immigrants from Malaysia before. That country is where about 20% of our illegal immigrants come from. Now you know one reason why.
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Reply #7 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:19am
 
The Lefties are SO excited thinking that Labor has secretly RESTARTED the BOATS!!!!!

But Dutto is already on the job stopping the Greeny+Labor attempt to RESTART the BOATS on aeroplanes.

Just think how bad things would be if Labor+Greenies got in and RESTARTED the BOATS!!!!!


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Reply #9 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 11:53am
 
juliar wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:19am:
The Lefties are SO excited thinking that Labor has secretly RESTARTED the BOATS!!!!!

But Dutto is already on the job stopping the Greeny+Labor attempt to RESTART the BOATS on aeroplanes.

Just think how bad things would be if Labor+Greenies got in and RESTARTED the BOATS!!!!!


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Ludicrous nonsense from the Liberal party - the party of LIARS.

Why the fkk would they increase the boats when the people smugglers are still doing very good business with planes?

64,000 illegal immigrants in Australian and increasing, with the government opening the borders wider than ever with the TPP. Open up, boys, people smugglers are back in business with the Liberals' TPP!
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Reply #10 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 1:49pm
 
Our conservative head masters will tell us servants, that, if we lowered the living standard for majority of Australians to those development countries - e.g. minimum wage of $2 a day, with no penalties no unions.  Then we will never have to worry about people smugglers or boats ever again.   Grin
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Reply #11 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 4:04pm
 
I was wondering the real reason the boats stopped. Now we know - the smugglers found a much more efficient model. Under the libs watch.
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Reply #12 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 4:26pm
 
But Dutto has stopped these scurrilous Labor+Greeny treasonous traitorous HATE Australia perfidious futile attempts.

Can you just imagine what it would be like if Labor+Greenies ever got in and the Black African Terrorists poured in by the thousands turning Australia into a cesspool of terror!!!!!! 

Just like the Vic Labor sponsored parts of Black Terror no go for Whities slum areas in Melbourne.


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A normal day after Labor+Greenies turn Australia into a 4th world multicultural cesspool of violence!!!!


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juliar wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 4:26pm:
But Dutto has stopped these scurrilous Labor+Greeny treasonous traitorous HATE Australia perfidious futile attempts.

Can you just imagine what it would be like if Labor+Greenies ever got in and the Black African Terrorists poured in by the thousands turning Australia into a cesspool of terror!!!!!! 

Just like the Vic Labor sponsored parts of Black Terror no go for Whities slum areas in Melbourne.

A normal day after Labor+Greenies turn Australia into a 4th world multicultural cesspool of violence!!!!

Wow, your offtopic rants are getting weirder and weirder. The impending electoral decimation has unhinged your mind.
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polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 4:04pm:
I was wondering the real reason the boats stopped. Now we know - the smugglers found a much more efficient model. Under the libs watch.

People smugglers' new business model facilitated by the Libs:

1. People migrate from ASEAN country to Malaysia
2. People smuggler arranges for corrupt Malaysian officials issue new "Malaysian" passport
3. Liberals facilitate work visas in Australia
4. Illegal immigrant arrives by plane

Australia has over 64,000 illegal immigrants right now and this number is increasing. Malaysia is the country of origin of more illegal immigrants than any other country.

If the TPP goes ahead with Malaysian workers having access to open borders, stand by for the FLOOD of illegal immigrants!

And unlike the hyperbole about boats "restarting" under Labor, this threat is REAL.
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Reply #15 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 11:16pm
 
Bam wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 10:55pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 4:04pm:
I was wondering the real reason the boats stopped. Now we know - the smugglers found a much more efficient model. Under the libs watch.

People smugglers' new business model facilitated by the Libs:

1. People migrate from ASEAN country to Malaysia
2. People smuggler arranges for corrupt Malaysian officials issue new "Malaysian" passport
3. Liberals facilitate work visas in Australia
4. Illegal immigrant arrives by plane

Australia has over 64,000 illegal immigrants right now and this number is increasing. Malaysia is the country of origin of more illegal immigrants than any other country.

If the TPP goes ahead with Malaysian workers having access to open borders, stand by for the FLOOD of illegal immigrants!

And unlike the hyperbole about boats "restarting" under Labor, this threat is REAL.


Dutton was saying cocaine usage had doubled in last two years,  how can that be with liberals strong border control  Undecided
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Poor little Bammy just can't stand the heat and always turns nasty.


Bam wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 10:48pm:
juliar wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 4:26pm:
But Dutto has stopped these scurrilous Labor+Greeny treasonous traitorous HATE Australia perfidious futile attempts.

Can you just imagine what it would be like if Labor+Greenies ever got in and the Black African Terrorists poured in by the thousands turning Australia into a cesspool of terror!!!!!! 

Just like the Vic Labor sponsored parts of Black Terror no go for Whities slum areas in Melbourne.

A normal day after Labor+Greenies turn Australia into a 4th world multicultural cesspool of violence!!!!


Wow, your offtopic rants are getting weirder and weirder. The impending electoral decimation has unhinged your mind.

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Reply #17 - Sep 18th, 2018 at 8:36am
 
juliar wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 7:45am:
Poor little Bammy just can't stand the heat and always turns nasty.


Bam wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 10:48pm:
juliar wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 4:26pm:
But Dutto has stopped these scurrilous Labor+Greeny treasonous traitorous HATE Australia perfidious futile attempts.

Can you just imagine what it would be like if Labor+Greenies ever got in and the Black African Terrorists poured in by the thousands turning Australia into a cesspool of terror!!!!!! 

Just like the Vic Labor sponsored parts of Black Terror no go for Whities slum areas in Melbourne.

A normal day after Labor+Greenies turn Australia into a 4th world multicultural cesspool of violence!!!!


Wow, your offtopic rants are getting weirder and weirder. The impending electoral decimation has unhinged your mind.


Your offtopic nonsense has been corrected.
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Reply #18 - Sep 18th, 2018 at 8:38am
 
Its time wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 11:16pm:
Bam wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 10:55pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 4:04pm:
I was wondering the real reason the boats stopped. Now we know - the smugglers found a much more efficient model. Under the libs watch.

People smugglers' new business model facilitated by the Libs:

1. People migrate from ASEAN country to Malaysia
2. People smuggler arranges for corrupt Malaysian officials issue new "Malaysian" passport
3. Liberals facilitate work visas in Australia
4. Illegal immigrant arrives by plane

Australia has over 64,000 illegal immigrants right now and this number is increasing. Malaysia is the country of origin of more illegal immigrants than any other country.

If the TPP goes ahead with Malaysian workers having access to open borders, stand by for the FLOOD of illegal immigrants!

And unlike the hyperbole about boats "restarting" under Labor, this threat is REAL.


Dutton was saying cocaine usage had doubled in last two years,  how can that be with liberals strong border control  Undecided

This is what happen when taxes are cut on the rich. They have money to waste on expensive illicit drugs. Maybe they should be put on a card and given $50 a week in cash.
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Reply #19 - Sep 18th, 2018 at 8:58am
 
Its time wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 11:16pm:
Bam wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 10:55pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 4:04pm:
I was wondering the real reason the boats stopped. Now we know - the smugglers found a much more efficient model. Under the libs watch.

People smugglers' new business model facilitated by the Libs:

1. People migrate from ASEAN country to Malaysia
2. People smuggler arranges for corrupt Malaysian officials issue new "Malaysian" passport
3. Liberals facilitate work visas in Australia
4. Illegal immigrant arrives by plane

Australia has over 64,000 illegal immigrants right now and this number is increasing. Malaysia is the country of origin of more illegal immigrants than any other country.

If the TPP goes ahead with Malaysian workers having access to open borders, stand by for the FLOOD of illegal immigrants!

And unlike the hyperbole about boats "restarting" under Labor, this threat is REAL.


Dutton was saying cocaine usage had doubled in last two years,  how can that be with liberals strong border control  Undecided


Wonder what else is slipping through unchecked under their watch?
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Reply #20 - Sep 18th, 2018 at 9:11am
 
Bit of Off Topic SPAM from the neurotic attention seeking Polly Waffle VIRUS.


Bam wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 8:36am:
juliar wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 7:45am:
Poor little Bammy just can't stand the heat and always turns nasty.


Bam wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 10:48pm:
juliar wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 4:26pm:
But Dutto has stopped these scurrilous Labor+Greeny treasonous traitorous HATE Australia perfidious futile attempts.

Can you just imagine what it would be like if Labor+Greenies ever got in and the Black African Terrorists poured in by the thousands turning Australia into a cesspool of terror!!!!!! 

Just like the Vic Labor sponsored parts of Black Terror no go for Whities slum areas in Melbourne.

A normal day after Labor+Greenies turn Australia into a 4th world multicultural cesspool of violence!!!!


Wow, your offtopic rants are getting weirder and weirder. The impending electoral decimation has unhinged your mind.


Your offtopic nonsense has been corrected.

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Reply #21 - Sep 18th, 2018 at 9:51am
 
juliar wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 9:11am:
Bit of Off Topic SPAM from the neurotic attention seeking Polly Waffle VIRUS.

Bam wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 8:36am:
juliar wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 7:45am:
Poor little Bammy just can't stand the heat and always turns nasty.


Bam wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 10:48pm:
juliar wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 4:26pm:
But Dutto has stopped these scurrilous Labor+Greeny treasonous traitorous HATE Australia perfidious futile attempts.

Can you just imagine what it would be like if Labor+Greenies ever got in and the Black African Terrorists poured in by the thousands turning Australia into a cesspool of terror!!!!!! 

Just like the Vic Labor sponsored parts of Black Terror no go for Whities slum areas in Melbourne.

A normal day after Labor+Greenies turn Australia into a 4th world multicultural cesspool of violence!!!!


Wow, your offtopic rants are getting weirder and weirder. The impending electoral decimation has unhinged your mind.


Your offtopic nonsense has been corrected.


Your offtopic nonsense has been corrected.
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Reply #22 - Feb 12th, 2019 at 9:13am
 
Bumping this thread to show how people smugglers operate now. They don't need boats any more. They now use planes.
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Reply #23 - Feb 12th, 2019 at 9:28am
 
Bam wrote on Feb 12th, 2019 at 9:13am:
Bumping this thread to show how people smugglers operate now. They don't need boats any more. They now use planes.


And plane people are much less likely than boat people to be genuine refugees, with only about 40-60 per cent granted protection visas, compared with 85-90 per cent of boat people who are found to be genuine refugees.
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Reply #24 - Feb 12th, 2019 at 9:42am
 
The reason the Coalition rejected the Malaysian solution under Julia Gillard was they were afraid it might work....The Coalition do not care about refugees accept to use them as political pawns in their game of human exploitation and bastardry....There are solutions but refugees have become so toxic in Australia no sensible solution can be found whilst our politicians use their plight for domestic political gain....Australia has nothing to be proud of with it's poor treatment of innocent people!!!

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Rising numbers of 'plane people' prompt fears people smugglers are gaming the asylum system

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SABRA LANE: The asylum debate in Australia is dominated by those who arrive on boats.

When it comes to those arriving on planes, there's been a more than tripling of their numbers - raising fears that people smugglers are gaming the refugee system.

In the past five years, 60,000 people - mostly from China and Malaysia - have come to Australia on temporary visas, and then applied for asylum.

Immigration Minister David Coleman says more than 90 per cent of their claims are rejected and they're returned home.

But that process can take years, and the arrivals can work on bridging visas.

A former senior immigration official says the traffickers are exploiting that time lag.

Abul Rizvi was deputy secretary of the Immigration Department until 2007.

He's speaking here with Eleanor Whitehead.

ABUL RIZVI: Most onshore asylum seeker applications come in in dribs and drabs. They come in from a wide variety of countries, and they have a reasonably high success rate.

When you have large numbers of asylum claims from just one or two countries and the vast majority are being refused, that is clear evidence that there is organisation behind this and that there are people doing this in order to profit.

ELEANOR WHITEHEAD: We've seen a large number of these claims are being lodged by people from China and Malaysia. Why those two countries?

ABUL RIZVI: The scam out of Malaysia is a long-standing one. I first encountered it almost 20 years ago.

And that appears to have re-emerged. It did re-emerge from time to time over the last 20 years, but it never got very large because we acted on it quite quickly.

The surprising thing here is that it has got very, very large over a relatively short period of time and that is the concern.

In respect of China, I get the impression that the people smugglers have decided, because it works so well out of Malaysia, they might as well give it a try out of China.

ELEANOR WHITEHEAD: So more than 60,000 people arriving by plane to lodge asylum claims afterwards since 2014. Is this a border crisis?

ABUL RIZVI: It is certainly very concerning in terms of numbers. If you look at it over a reasonable period of time, it is larger than the boat arrival issue that the Rudd/Gillard government had to deal with.

The other difference here, of course, is rather than individuals being in detention centres, they are in the community.

Because it is such a large continent, actually finding where they are will be a very substantial challenge.

ELEANOR WHITEHEAD: And how difficult is it for people smugglers to bring people in through this route? What kind of a process are they going through to get people here?

ABUL RIZVI: There is probably going to be a team of people involved. There will be people offshore who do the organising and bring people into the net, as it were. They will then arrange for them to get visitor visas via the electronic travel authority to Australia.

The individuals will probably be met just outside the airport and then taken to a place of work somewhere in Australia.

ELEANOR WHITEHEAD: And so do we know what happens to them when they are here? Are they being trafficked specifically for work purposes?

ABUL RIZVI: Yes, that's very much what it is about. It is about enabling the traffickers to bring the relevant individuals in, to be able to place them in jobs - usually very low-skilled jobs around Australia.

There are three main areas in which these people have traditionally worked: Firstly on farms; secondly in restaurants; and thirdly, in brothels.

If the processing times are not long, then the profitability of the exercise evaporates very quickly.

ELEANOR WHITEHEAD: So why is it that there are more people now arriving by plane?

ABUL RIZVI: These schemes pop up from time to time. We've traditionally been able to identify them very quickly.

By acting quickly, you make sure the numbers don't get too large and you are able to shut it down very quickly.

If the people smugglers can't make a profit, they don't keep running them.

The reason the numbers have got very large in this instance, it appears that Home Affairs has failed to act quickly enough - and I'm not even sure they're acting now. And the numbers have now become so large that actually taking action will be very, very expensive.

SABRA LANE: And that's Abul Rizvi, a former deputy secretary of the Immigration Department. He was speaking there with Eleanor Whitehead.
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Wouldn't make an iota of difference if Labor had won, or Greens or any of the others

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Australia's refugee wait list doubles with surge of 'plane people' seeking asylum

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A significant increase in the number of "plane people" seeking asylum in Australia has resulted in the country's longest refugee wait list in history, according to new figures from the United Nations' peak refugee agency.

Over 60,000 people had refugee applications before Australian government officials by the end of 2018 in what is a dramatic uptick from the nearly 30,000-long 2016 waitlist.

The new figures from the United Nations High Commission on Refugees add fire to a growing clash between Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton and Kristina Keneally over the marked increase in so-called "plane people" arriving in Australia.

The last few years have seen a surge in people arriving in Australia by plane on legitimate tourist visas before later claiming asylum - 81,000 have done so in the past four years.

Roughly 90 per cent of these applications are denied. But in the several years it takes to process the claims, "plane people" are granted bridging visas that allow them to work in Australia.

The number of people in Australia on bridging visas increased from 107,000 in 2014 to 230,000 in 2019.

Senator Keneally said the tens of thousands of people arriving by plane to Australia before claiming asylum was a sign the people smuggler trade was evolving.

"The UNHCR report confirms a massive increase in the number of people who are in Australia seeking asylum has occurred under Peter Dutton's watch," she said. "In the face of this surge, Mr Dutton has presided over $300 million in budget cuts to weaken our border security."

"Even though it was Scott Morrison and Kevin Rudd's policies that stopped the boats, Peter Dutton loves to take the credit. But what credit does he take for the massive blowout in asylum seeker applications under his watch?"

Immigration Minister David Coleman said the record refugee application levels would not translate to more refugees.

"The government has capped the refugee intake at the current levels - unlike Labor which is proposing to increase the annual permanent refugee intake by 71 per cent."

"We won't be taking any advice on these issues from Labor, who completely lost control of our borders when they were in government."

The Home Affairs department stressed that only a quarter of a percent of all visitors sought Australia's protection.

"The Department continuously works to detect, disrupt and respond to fraud, pattern claims and other attempts to undermine the integrity of the immigration program," a spokesman said.

Immigration expert Mary Crock said the record wait list was quietly becoming a cause for concern.

"We have a larger number of people coming by plane and applying for asylum in Australia than ever in our history," the University of Sydney professor said.

"The very big backlog is due to the large numbers of people claiming asylum here. The other problem has been that they've cut funding to the department where they need to do the processing."

The UNHCR report also reveals that at 28,800, Australia received the 13th highest number of new asylum claims in 2018, as well as having the 13th highest number of pending asylum claims.

The surge means Australia is home to 1.7 percent of the world's refugee applications, but less than 0.1 percent of the world's refugees.

Most countries with larger refugee wait lists neighbour conflict zones. Turkey, bordering Syria, had 311,000 pending claims. Peru and Brazil, which are managing record immigration from civil unrest within Venezuela, had over 100,000 pending claims each.

At the top of the list was the United States with 719,000 refugee applications.

The figures come as the government revealed it would place higher priority on migrants from South America amid Venezuela's humanitarian crisis that will lead to hundreds more from the struggling socialist country settling in Australia.

In total, 3.4 million Venezuelans have fled the country and 341,800 Venuzuelans started seeking asylum in 2018.

70.8 million people were displaced worldwide in 2018, a 2.3 million increase compared to 2017.

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Why is it that Dutton is able to stuff up so much in his portfolio - and never ever face any scrutiny or accountability?

It simply defies belief how untouchable this man is.
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This would be nothing but a deliberate plan - your mission - should you choose to accept it - is to determine how, when, where and why any national government of one culture would create an environment where its own culture is being eroded nigh unto destruction....
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polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 8:11pm:
Why is it that Dutton is able to stuff up so much in his portfolio - and never ever face any scrutiny or accountability?

It simply defies belief how untouchable this man is.


Showers and bathes in teflon...
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juliar wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 4:26pm:
But Dutto has stopped these scurrilous Labor+Greeny treasonous traitorous HATE Australia perfidious futile attempts.

Can you just imagine what it would be like if Labor+Greenies ever got in and the Black African Terrorists poured in by the thousands turning Australia into a cesspool of terror!!!!!! 

Just like the Vic Labor sponsored parts of Black Terror no go for Whities slum areas in Melbourne.


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A normal day after Labor+Greenies turn Australia into a 4th world multicultural cesspool of violence!!!!




Looking at those pictures they are doing it tough for a beach in Victoria. one beach has grass and walls the other looks like it is made from concrete.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 9:19pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 8:11pm:
Why is it that Dutton is able to stuff up so much in his portfolio - and never ever face any scrutiny or accountability?

It simply defies belief how untouchable this man is.


Showers and bathes in teflon...


It's the Tater factor or the spud syndrome.
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Dnarever wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 10:08pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 9:19pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 8:11pm:
Why is it that Dutton is able to stuff up so much in his portfolio - and never ever face any scrutiny or accountability?

It simply defies belief how untouchable this man is.


Showers and bathes in teflon...


It's the Tater factor or the spud syndrome.


I can only surmise that he is some super-dooper genius in political meanuevering and intrigue that keeps him in good stead in his own party. Maybe he has collected a tonne of dirt that he blackmails the liberal party hierarchy with to force them to keep him in powerful cabinet positions.

But he is certainly not there because of his brilliant ability in any of his portfolios, thats for sure.
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polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 11:06pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 10:08pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 9:19pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 8:11pm:
Why is it that Dutton is able to stuff up so much in his portfolio - and never ever face any scrutiny or accountability?

It simply defies belief how untouchable this man is.


Showers and bathes in teflon...


It's the Tater factor or the spud syndrome.


I can only surmise that he is some super-dooper genius in political meanuevering and intrigue that keeps him in good stead in his own party. Maybe he has collected a tonne of dirt that he blackmails the liberal party hierarchy with to force them to keep him in powerful cabinet positions.

But he is certainly not there because of his brilliant ability in any of his portfolios, thats for sure.

How does an ex-Queensland cop manage to acquire $50 million in wealth?
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Its time wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 9:45am:
Well this is awkward,  but but but the boats have stopped.....  For a couple of weeks


When are you changing your profile name? Shorten isn't our PM, either!  Grin Grin Grin
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We're not the independant nation too many appear to believe we are.  And we never were

Look at where we are on the map

that's it

We're going to be taken over. It was always on the cards and haunted politicians from the outset

So it's just a matter of who takes us over

The US has too many problems of its own, which it's never going to resolve, to be of use to us

The reality is, our only value, if we have one, is how we can be used

The US wants to use us for its own benefit.  Australia's value to the US lies in the fact the US has its tracking stations here.  Every now and then, the US patronises us by acting as if it knows where we even are and giving one or another Aussie politician a bit of flattery and pat on the bonce

The UK also has problems of its own which are beyond solving now, thanks to the parasites who dumped half the world's flotsam there

So who's left?

that's right, the next superpower, China, which already owns huge swathes of this country and its viable agricultural land in addition to 100 year lease on Darwin port and it's own airport, lol

So let's stop pretending we have any say about what happens to this massive chunk of dirt in the southern hemisphere

we have a miniscule population in comparison to land size.  Even if we had twenty times the population, we wouldn't be able to secure borders of Australia's size

so, sooner China makes its take over official, the better off we'll be

for a start, China will clear out the riff raff and put a halt to any more unwanted migrants

China's organised, has to be.  And it's had lots of practice

under China, Australia could well become an industrial powerhouse

and the news today is that Chinese ex-pats are seeking to return to China's censored media
[i]Why are millions of Chinese expats using VPNs to get back inside Beijing's Great Firewall?[b]ABC

What does the average person want from life once they've matured a bit?  Roof over head, food on table, bit of money in bank, peace, freedom from stress.  Yet in our so called 'free society' those simple wants are very difficult to achieve

basically, people want a parent-figure to protect them.  And China's regime satisfies that need.  Not perfectly, but pretty well.  People are still working, popping out kids, planning for a future and going to parks in China, so how bad can it actually be despite western media portrays it negatively

So the sooner China walks in and our corrupt and useless politicians are kicked out, the better, from the perspective of the average Aussie

better China than the majority muslim south pacific chicken head dictatorships
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Reply #37 - Jun 29th, 2019 at 10:58am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 9:19pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 8:11pm:
Why is it that Dutton is able to stuff up so much in his portfolio - and never ever face any scrutiny or accountability?

It simply defies belief how untouchable this man is.


Showers and bathes in teflon...

It's mostly due to a complicit biased media that refuses to subject the government to sufficient scrutiny.
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Reply #38 - Jun 29th, 2019 at 11:54am
 
Bam wrote on Jun 29th, 2019 at 10:58am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 9:19pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 8:11pm:
Why is it that Dutton is able to stuff up so much in his portfolio - and never ever face any scrutiny or accountability?

It simply defies belief how untouchable this man is.


Showers and bathes in teflon...

It's mostly due to a complicit biased media that refuses to subject the government to sufficient scrutiny.



BS

any Australian government, regardless of stripe, is a puppet government dictated to, controlled by overseas powers

and if anyone wants to know the identity of those overseas powers

all they need do is look at where ALL Aussie politicians must go at least once a year

it's not UK

it's not even US

it's not India

it's not Iceland

it's not anwhere in Africa



it's izrayle



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Gosh these Lefties seem to be really disappointed that Labor did not get in and RESTART the BOATS.
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