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Sep 15th, 2018 at 6:46am
 
Hurricane Florence achieves DIRECT HIT on Brunswick nuclear power plant in Southport, NC… pray for our safety

Friday, September 14, 2018

(Natural News) Hurricane Florence, which achieved landfall early Friday morning, has achieved a direct hit on the Brunswick nuclear power facility in Southport, NC. The eye of the hurricane — where the winds are the most severe — is right now swirling directly over the nuclear power containment buildings, battering them with 100+ MPH winds.

As Natural News reported earlier, there are at least twelve active nuclear power plants in the direct path of Hurricane Florence. Many Americans are concerned about whether these nuclear power facilities are prepared to survive a worst-case scenario of a direct hit.



Now, we know that direct hit has taken place. Thankfully, hurricane winds dropped from 140 MPH to around 100 MPH over the last 48 hours. This may be the saving grace that prevents these nuclear power plants from being severely damaged or destroyed by the storm.

As the map shows, below, the Brunswick power plant is located just South of Wilmington, North Carolina. This is precisely where the eye of the hurricane made landfall

North Carolina officials are currently reporting that nearly half a million customers have lost power.

Media lies to the public about the shutting down of nuclear power plants
The Brunswick nuclear power plant is one of several that have been reportedly “shut down” before the storm’s arrival. But the media, not surprisingly, has been systematically lying to the public about these shut downs.

Nuclear power plants require weeks of cooling pumps to function for an effective shutdown. They can’t simply be switched off in an instant like a light switch. If the cooling pumps fail at any time during the weeks-long shutdown procedure, the nuclear fuel rods can boil off the coolant water and rise in temperature until a nuclear meltdown occurs.

None of this is being reported to the public by the lying media, which routinely whitewashes the risks of nuclear power.

At this point, all we can do is hope and pray the Brunswick nuclear facilities withstand the winds and floods of the storm. Even if something goes wrong with one or more of these facilities, rest assured the media will lie and cover it up even while radiation is released into the atmosphere, just like they all did during the Fukushima catastrophe.
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Reply #1 - Sep 15th, 2018 at 6:57am
 
Unlikely.

What is likely is that when Florence goes over the massive hog manure storage facilities in North Carolina, well, you get the idea ...
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Reply #2 - Sep 15th, 2018 at 7:15am
 
The storm looks OK for now.
The gusts are at 100mph but most of time it's not that severe.
I don't think any nuclear power stations will be affected.
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Reply #3 - Sep 15th, 2018 at 7:27am
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 15th, 2018 at 7:15am:
The storm looks OK for now.
The gusts are at 100mph but most of time it's not that severe.
I don't think any nuclear power stations will be affected.


We can only hope.
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“LOOTERS WILL BE SHOT” Signs Appear As Florence Bears Down, S.C. Governor: “Looters Will Be Shown No Mercy”


I like the way they roll in the US.. . Smiley
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Reply #5 - Sep 15th, 2018 at 7:42am
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 15th, 2018 at 7:38am:
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“LOOTERS WILL BE SHOT” Signs Appear As Florence Bears Down, S.C. Governor: “Looters Will Be Shown No Mercy”


I like the way they roll in the US.. . Smiley




Your story is true:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/09/looters-will-be-shot-signs-appear-as-fl...

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https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1040713554725404672
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Reply #6 - Sep 15th, 2018 at 7:49am
 
The comments are hilariously depressing.

There is no tragedy that the Trumptards or their favoured conspiracy bloggers won't exploit.

They have no shame.
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Reply #7 - Sep 15th, 2018 at 11:52am
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 15th, 2018 at 7:15am:
The storm looks OK for now.
The gusts are at 100mph but most of time it's not that severe.
I don't think any nuclear power stations will be affected.


Its not the winds, its the storm surge and rain - 3' or more - that means flooding. Breaking all records. Many of these 16 reactors are at sea level or on flood plains.

Fukishima was a disaster because the emergency cooling backup diesels engines were flooded. It was a GE reactor - same as most of these - old design.

So we have old reactors sitting on potential flood zones and highest flooding on record - what could go wrong?
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SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2018 at 7:49am:
The comments are hilariously depressing.

There is no tragedy that the Trumptards or their favoured conspiracy bloggers won't exploit.

They have no shame.


Your stupidity is depressing!
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Reply #9 - Sep 15th, 2018 at 12:33pm
 
Richdude wrote on Sep 15th, 2018 at 11:52am:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 15th, 2018 at 7:15am:
The storm looks OK for now.
The gusts are at 100mph but most of time it's not that severe.
I don't think any nuclear power stations will be affected.


Its not the winds, its the storm surge and rain - 3' or more - that means flooding. Breaking all records. Many of these 16 reactors are at sea level or on flood plains.

Fukishima was a disaster because the emergency cooling backup diesels engines were flooded. It was a GE reactor - same as most of these - old design.

So we have old reactors sitting on potential flood zones and highest flooding on record - what could go wrong?


So far  so good.

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Reply #10 - Sep 15th, 2018 at 1:04pm
 
Richdude wrote on Sep 15th, 2018 at 11:53am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2018 at 7:49am:
The comments are hilariously depressing.

There is no tragedy that the Trumptards or their favoured conspiracy bloggers won't exploit.

They have no shame.


Your stupidity is depressing!


I point out how callous the Trump supporters are being by trying to politicise the issue and you call me stupid?

Is there anything you won't defend from the right?

Wake up you fool.  You can't just insult your way out of the truth.

And you'll notice (if you can comprehend past a headline) that TGP censors any comments that aren't 110% in support of the narrative that is being commented on. 

So naturally if you look at the comments it seems that it's true that all looters are black and black only, they only vote Dems, Democrat Mayors hand out drugs to their constituents in times like this when they can't score, they condone looting of their communities and even if you kill a looting democrat voter, it won't help the cause because they can vote illegally from beyond the grave.

Those who took the time, passed moderation and weren't just censored and commented on the article are trying to politicise the issue of an ongoing natural disaster.

If you don't find that depressing that these armchair warriors would do such a thing, while complaining about how bad the left are yourself, you're a big part of the problem.

Or perhaps I'm just stupid and should go buy a MAGA hat made in China and start lying to myself so I can believe everything that Trump says, even when the end of his sentence contradicts the beginning.

I guess I'd also need to forget what the word "contradict" or even "sentence" mean, that's far too intelligible for the idiot crowd I need to be a part of in order to not be considered stupid by such a dazzling intellect as yourself Rich.

Bugger used to mean big words again.

MAKE AMERICA GRATE AGAIN!

(that's better)

Rich, if you want to defend those comments or any of the bullshit claims already made, be my guest, but it gives you no right to claim that someone else is being stupid when you support such disgusting actions. 

But let's say they're not serious and are just trolling, or joking around.  Comedy = tragedy + time.  "Plus TIME".  Commenting like this while the storm is in progress if they're joking and not simply exploiting the plight of the people in the path of the storm for political reasons isn't much better.

I'll remind you of how you supported this the next time you take issue with something the left has said to remind you that it's ok because you've condoned it and even gone as far as defending it by attacking anyone calling it out.

But if you want to keep defending it, you will have only proven the type of person you are more than anything else.

The stage is yours sunshine.
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Reply #11 - Sep 15th, 2018 at 11:30pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Richdude wrote on Sep 15th, 2018 at 11:53am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2018 at 7:49am:
The comments are hilariously depressing.

There is no tragedy that the Trumptards or their favoured conspiracy bloggers won't exploit.

They have no shame.


Your stupidity is depressing!


I point out how callous the Trump supporters are being by trying to politicise the issue and you call me stupid?

Is there anything you won't defend from the right?

Wake up you fool.  You can't just insult your way out of the truth.

And you'll notice (if you can comprehend past a headline) that TGP censors any comments that aren't 110% in support of the narrative that is being commented on. 

So naturally if you look at the comments it seems that it's true that all looters are black and black only, they only vote Dems, Democrat Mayors hand out drugs to their constituents in times like this when they can't score, they condone looting of their communities and even if you kill a looting democrat voter, it won't help the cause because they can vote illegally from beyond the grave.

Those who took the time, passed moderation and weren't just censored and commented on the article are trying to politicise the issue of an ongoing natural disaster.

If you don't find that depressing that these armchair warriors would do such a thing, while complaining about how bad the left are yourself, you're a big part of the problem.

Or perhaps I'm just stupid and should go buy a MAGA hat made in China and start lying to myself so I can believe everything that Trump says, even when the end of his sentence contradicts the beginning.

I guess I'd also need to forget what the word "contradict" or even "sentence" mean, that's far too intelligible for the idiot crowd I need to be a part of in order to not be considered stupid by such a dazzling intellect as yourself Rich.

Bugger used to mean big words again.

MAKE AMERICA GRATE AGAIN!

(that's better)

Rich, if you want to defend those comments or any of the bullshit claims already made, be my guest, but it gives you no right to claim that someone else is being stupid when you support such disgusting actions. 

But let's say they're not serious and are just trolling, or joking around.  Comedy = tragedy + time.  "Plus TIME".  Commenting like this while the storm is in progress if they're joking and not simply exploiting the plight of the people in the path of the storm for political reasons isn't much better.

I'll remind you of how you supported this the next time you take issue with something the left has said to remind you that it's ok because you've condoned it and even gone as far as defending it by attacking anyone calling it out.

But if you want to keep defending it, you will have only proven the type of person you are more than anything else.

The stage is yours sunshine.


I am not politicizing the issue - you fool.

This storm hopefully will pass over without causing any damage to the reactors. But a reactor melt down on the heavily populated East Coast is something not to taken lightly.

I am an engineer and was a hydrologist. I know these reactors are built to withstand extreme weather up to 100 year events. However this storm has broken all rainfall records in places.

Just because these reactors have operated safely for the last 40 years or so doesn't mean that they will - forever.

Perhaps future reactors will use thorium instead but thats another story.
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Reply #12 - Sep 18th, 2018 at 6:38am
 
Richdude wrote on Sep 15th, 2018 at 11:30pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Richdude wrote on Sep 15th, 2018 at 11:53am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2018 at 7:49am:
The comments are hilariously depressing.

There is no tragedy that the Trumptards or their favoured conspiracy bloggers won't exploit.

They have no shame.


Your stupidity is depressing!


I point out how callous the Trump supporters are being by trying to politicise the issue and you call me stupid?

Is there anything you won't defend from the right?

Wake up you fool.  You can't just insult your way out of the truth.

And you'll notice (if you can comprehend past a headline) that TGP censors any comments that aren't 110% in support of the narrative that is being commented on. 

So naturally if you look at the comments it seems that it's true that all looters are black and black only, they only vote Dems, Democrat Mayors hand out drugs to their constituents in times like this when they can't score, they condone looting of their communities and even if you kill a looting democrat voter, it won't help the cause because they can vote illegally from beyond the grave.

Those who took the time, passed moderation and weren't just censored and commented on the article are trying to politicise the issue of an ongoing natural disaster.

If you don't find that depressing that these armchair warriors would do such a thing, while complaining about how bad the left are yourself, you're a big part of the problem.

Or perhaps I'm just stupid and should go buy a MAGA hat made in China and start lying to myself so I can believe everything that Trump says, even when the end of his sentence contradicts the beginning.

I guess I'd also need to forget what the word "contradict" or even "sentence" mean, that's far too intelligible for the idiot crowd I need to be a part of in order to not be considered stupid by such a dazzling intellect as yourself Rich.

Bugger used to mean big words again.

MAKE AMERICA GRATE AGAIN!

(that's better)

Rich, if you want to defend those comments or any of the bullshit claims already made, be my guest, but it gives you no right to claim that someone else is being stupid when you support such disgusting actions. 

But let's say they're not serious and are just trolling, or joking around.  Comedy = tragedy + time.  "Plus TIME".  Commenting like this while the storm is in progress if they're joking and not simply exploiting the plight of the people in the path of the storm for political reasons isn't much better.

I'll remind you of how you supported this the next time you take issue with something the left has said to remind you that it's ok because you've condoned it and even gone as far as defending it by attacking anyone calling it out.

But if you want to keep defending it, you will have only proven the type of person you are more than anything else.

The stage is yours sunshine.


I am not politicizing the issue - you fool.

This storm hopefully will pass over without causing any damage to the reactors. But a reactor melt down on the heavily populated East Coast is something not to taken lightly.

I am an engineer and was a hydrologist. I know these reactors are built to withstand extreme weather up to 100 year events. However this storm has broken all rainfall records in places.

Just because these reactors have operated safely for the last 40 years or so doesn't mean that they will - forever.

Perhaps future reactors will use thorium instead but thats another story.


[i] Sadly I can read the minds of these lunatics and their minions in the media. It takes weeks for a reactor to cool day not hours as reported in the lying fake news.[/i] The media has had a news bl
The aptly named Cape Fear River is still rising.



Emergency declared at Brunswick nuclear power plant in North Carolina… all personnel blocked from entering the facility as “hot shutdown” under way

Monday, September 17, 2018 by: Mike Adams      
Tags: Brunswick, emergency, FEMA, Flooding, hot shutdown, Hurricane Florence, NRC, nuclear meltdown, nuclear power, storm
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Image: Emergency declared at Brunswick nuclear power plant in North Carolina… all personnel blocked from entering the facility as “hot shutdown” under way

(Natural News) The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission has declared a state of emergency for both units of the Brunswick nuclear power facilities in North Carolina. An “unusual event” has occurred which is interfering with the ongoing “hot shutdown” of the nuclear power plants (a process which takes several weeks to complete).

Full details of the event are found at this NRC.gov nuclear power plant alert page, which states:

UNUSUAL EVENT DUE TO SITE CONDITIONS PREVENTING PLANT ACCESS

“A hazardous event has resulted in on site conditions sufficient to prohibit the plant staff from accessing the site via personal vehicles due to flooding of local roads by Tropical Storm Florence.”

Notified DHS SWO, FEMA OPS, and DHS NICC. Notified FEMA NWC, NuclearSSA, and FEMA NRCC via email.

In other words, the Brunswick power facilities can no longer be accessed by workers and technicians even as they are running a “hot shutdown” which requires human oversight.

The Brunswick power plants, in other words, are running blind.

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Reply #13 - Sep 18th, 2018 at 8:30am
 
I see the problem now Richdude. You're using Natural News as a source. Its reputation as an anti-science quackery source is second to none.
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Reply #14 - Sep 18th, 2018 at 10:21am
 
Richdude wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 6:38am:
[i] Sadly I can read the minds of these lunatics and their minions in the media. It takes weeks for a reactor to cool day not hours as reported in the lying fake news.[/i] The media has had a news bl
The aptly named Cape Fear River is still rising.



Emergency declared at Brunswick nuclear power plant in North Carolina… all personnel blocked from entering the facility as “hot shutdown” under way

Monday, September 17, 2018 by: Mike Adams      
Tags: Brunswick, emergency, FEMA, Flooding, hot shutdown, Hurricane Florence, NRC, nuclear meltdown, nuclear power, storm
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Image: Emergency declared at Brunswick nuclear power plant in North Carolina… all personnel blocked from entering the facility as “hot shutdown” under way

(Natural News) The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission has declared a state of emergency for both units of the Brunswick nuclear power facilities in North Carolina. An “unusual event” has occurred which is interfering with the ongoing “hot shutdown” of the nuclear power plants (a process which takes several weeks to complete).

Full details of the event are found at this NRC.gov nuclear power plant alert page, which states:

UNUSUAL EVENT DUE TO SITE CONDITIONS PREVENTING PLANT ACCESS

“A hazardous event has resulted in on site conditions sufficient to prohibit the plant staff from accessing the site via personal vehicles due to flooding of local roads by Tropical Storm Florence.”

Notified DHS SWO, FEMA OPS, and DHS NICC. Notified FEMA NWC, NuclearSSA, and FEMA NRCC via email.

In other words, the Brunswick power facilities can no longer be accessed by workers and technicians even as they are running a “hot shutdown” which requires human oversight.

The Brunswick power plants, in other words, are running blind.


Rich, do you even care that the bulk of your post is entirely wrong?

It's coming from a source that is pro-coal and anti-everything else when it comes to power generation.

The plant is not running blind. 

All but one of the access roads were either cut by flood waters or fallen trees.  Access is being restored to the roads cut by fallen trees and the flood waters are being monitors. 

The plant was already shut down before the Hurrican and was in a hot-standby state so it could quickly resume operations if safe.

Officials said the plant is accessible from one route due to the floodwaters. However, because there are not multiple routes available the plant was placed under an “unusual event,” which is the lowest alert level under Nuclear Regulatory Commission guidelines.

Because of the current situation, they're initiating a full shutdown. 

The plant itself has been unaffected, but due to possible increases flood levels and issues accessing to the plant, they're following regulations and have declared an"unusual event" in accordance with NRC guidelines and are shutting it down.

The staff are staying at the plant in cots using portable toilets because the water was shut off. They have food, drinking water and other supplies, all of this planned for well in advance.

None of what you have said is correct.

Are you that partisan that you don't care that you're spreading fake news?

My advice to anyone who bothers to read the posts by Trump supporters (or really anyone, but especially Trump supporters), fact check their claims.  It's not hard.
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The water is still rising and there is an emergency getting worse by the minute at the power plant.

The media has a history of underplaying such developments.

The roads to the Brunswick power plant may be cut however now is the time to chopper in supplies to  marooned employees and send in backup generators and pumps - NOW!





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Richdude wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 11:36am:
The water is still rising and there is an emergency getting worse by the minute at the power plant.

The media has a history of underplaying such developments.

The roads to the Brunswick power plant may be cut however now is the time to chopper in supplies to  marooned employees and send in backup generators and pumps - NOW!



 



Do you even bother doing any research? Brunswick has five diesel generators and two back up generators. They practice for this all the time. The plant has been shut down and all the generators have to do is cool the rods.



Because of Fukushima, they have installed temporary flood barriers.
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Reply #17 - Sep 18th, 2018 at 11:41am
 
Richdude wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 11:36am:
The water is still rising and there is an emergency getting worse by the minute at the power plant.

The media has a history of underplaying such developments.

The roads to the Brunswick power plant may be cut however now is the time to chopper in supplies to  marooned employees and send in backup generators and pumps - NOW!


But you're ok with scare mongering in the opposite direction with blatant fake news?

You either accept or condone fake news.  You can't pick and choose to suit your argument...

Who are you, Donald Trump?
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 11:41am:
Richdude wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 11:36am:
The water is still rising and there is an emergency getting worse by the minute at the power plant.

The media has a history of underplaying such developments.

The roads to the Brunswick power plant may be cut however now is the time to chopper in supplies to  marooned employees and send in backup generators and pumps - NOW!



 



Do you even bother doing any research? Brunswick has five diesel generators and two back up generators. They practice for this all the time. The plant has been shut down and all the generators have to do is cool the rods.



Because of Fukushima, they have installed temporary flood barriers.


They said the same after the Fukashima debacle. Its standard practice to calm the public while there's a nuclear melt down happening.

5 diesel generators! Well were all saved! Do they practice underwater?

Diesel generators don't work under water Bojack. The water is flowing down from the mountains from up to 3' of rain. The river is rising and they are using ad hoc temporary barriers to stop the water flooding the complex!

ARE YOU bugger*G KIDDING ME???? Do you understand what would happen if the barriers fail? It takes weeks for the pile to cool and if any problem happens which usually does - the whole East Coast is in deep do do.


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Reply #20 - Sep 18th, 2018 at 1:35pm
 
Richdude wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 11:41am:
Richdude wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 11:36am:
The water is still rising and there is an emergency getting worse by the minute at the power plant.

The media has a history of underplaying such developments.

The roads to the Brunswick power plant may be cut however now is the time to chopper in supplies to  marooned employees and send in backup generators and pumps - NOW!



 



Do you even bother doing any research? Brunswick has five diesel generators and two back up generators. They practice for this all the time. The plant has been shut down and all the generators have to do is cool the rods.



Because of Fukushima, they have installed temporary flood barriers.


They said the same after the Fukashima debacle. Its standard practice to calm the public while there's a nuclear melt down happening.

5 diesel generators! Well were all saved! Do they practice underwater?

Diesel generators don't work under water Bojack. The water is flowing down from the mountains from up to 3' of rain. The river is rising and they are using ad hoc temporary barriers to stop the water flooding the complex!

ARE YOU bugger*G KIDDING ME???? Do you understand what would happen if the barriers fail? It takes weeks for the pile to cool and if any problem happens which usually does - the whole East Coast is in deep do do.





2 back up generators. Plus the barriers. Plus these were installed after Fukushima. So stop being irrational.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 1:35pm:
Richdude wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 11:41am:
Richdude wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 11:36am:
The water is still rising and there is an emergency getting worse by the minute at the power plant.

The media has a history of underplaying such developments.

The roads to the Brunswick power plant may be cut however now is the time to chopper in supplies to  marooned employees and send in backup generators and pumps - NOW!



 



Do you even bother doing any research? Brunswick has five diesel generators and two back up generators. They practice for this all the time. The plant has been shut down and all the generators have to do is cool the rods.



Because of Fukushima, they have installed temporary flood barriers.


They said the same after the Fukashima debacle. Its standard practice to calm the public while there's a nuclear melt down happening.

5 diesel generators! Well were all saved! Do they practice underwater?

Diesel generators don't work under water Bojack. The water is flowing down from the mountains from up to 3' of rain. The river is rising and they are using ad hoc temporary barriers to stop the water flooding the complex!

ARE YOU bugger*G KIDDING ME???? Do you understand what would happen if the barriers fail? It takes weeks for the pile to cool and if any problem happens which usually does - the whole East Coast is in deep do do.





2 back up generators. Plus the barriers. Plus these were installed after Fukushima. So stop being irrational.


Let it go Rich.  You have no factual basis for your claims. 

Just be honest, you read some idiot alt-right post somewhere else online that had lots of applause from those who likely are pro-coal again, not because they understand or have a personal stake in it, but were told to think that way, you mistook that support in that context for people understanding what they'd read and that this was factual so you reposted it here thinking it would get the same reaction but you were instead fact checked and you're too stubborn to walk back your claims that have turned out to be bullshit.

It's Mech all over...
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Reply #22 - Sep 18th, 2018 at 2:49pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 1:35pm:
Richdude wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 11:41am:
Richdude wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 11:36am:
The water is still rising and there is an emergency getting worse by the minute at the power plant.

The media has a history of underplaying such developments.

The roads to the Brunswick power plant may be cut however now is the time to chopper in supplies to  marooned employees and send in backup generators and pumps - NOW!



 



Do you even bother doing any research? Brunswick has five diesel generators and two back up generators. They practice for this all the time. The plant has been shut down and all the generators have to do is cool the rods.



Because of Fukushima, they have installed temporary flood barriers.


They said the same after the Fukashima debacle. Its standard practice to calm the public while there's a nuclear melt down happening.

5 diesel generators! Well were all saved! Do they practice underwater?

Diesel generators don't work under water Bojack. The water is flowing down from the mountains from up to 3' of rain. The river is rising and they are using ad hoc temporary barriers to stop the water flooding the complex!

ARE YOU bugger*G KIDDING ME???? Do you understand what would happen if the barriers fail? It takes weeks for the pile to cool and if any problem happens which usually does - the whole East Coast is in deep do do.





2 back up generators. Plus the barriers. Plus these were installed after Fukushima. So stop being irrational.


Irrational??

Duke Energy weighed up the cost of putting in a wall encircling the whole complex. Probably decided that a 1 in 100 year flood was unlikely and cost too much and decided not too. Hence we have these Mickey Mouse temporary barriers which have never been tested.

You do realize what would happen if these barriers fail?

Or am I being irrational? 
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Reply #23 - Sep 18th, 2018 at 2:55pm
 
Richdude wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 2:49pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 1:35pm:
Richdude wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 11:41am:
Richdude wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 11:36am:
The water is still rising and there is an emergency getting worse by the minute at the power plant.

The media has a history of underplaying such developments.

The roads to the Brunswick power plant may be cut however now is the time to chopper in supplies to  marooned employees and send in backup generators and pumps - NOW!



 



Do you even bother doing any research? Brunswick has five diesel generators and two back up generators. They practice for this all the time. The plant has been shut down and all the generators have to do is cool the rods.



Because of Fukushima, they have installed temporary flood barriers.


They said the same after the Fukashima debacle. Its standard practice to calm the public while there's a nuclear melt down happening.

5 diesel generators! Well were all saved! Do they practice underwater?

Diesel generators don't work under water Bojack. The water is flowing down from the mountains from up to 3' of rain. The river is rising and they are using ad hoc temporary barriers to stop the water flooding the complex!

ARE YOU bugger*G KIDDING ME???? Do you understand what would happen if the barriers fail? It takes weeks for the pile to cool and if any problem happens which usually does - the whole East Coast is in deep do do.





2 back up generators. Plus the barriers. Plus these were installed after Fukushima. So stop being irrational.


Irrational??

Duke Energy weighed up the cost of putting in a wall encircling the whole complex. Probably decided that a 1 in 100 year flood was unlikely and cost too much and decided not too. Hence we have these Mickey Mouse temporary barriers which have never been tested.

You do realize what would happen if these barriers fail?

Or am I being irrational? 



That the diesel generators would be out and that the back up ones would kick in, thereby cooling the rods.


And yes, you're being irrational.
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Reply #24 - Sep 18th, 2018 at 3:20pm
 
Some of this seems eerily familiar.

I remember when Rich and those like him were accusing the left because they didn't trust Trump preparedness or capability when meeting with the North Korean leader saying that the left was hoping for Nuclear war.

By the sounds of it, Rich is hoping for a meltdown.

Poor form mate...
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So what was the "unusual event" which forced the emergency shutdown?

There is a media blackout on what is going at this station. So we are left only with conjecture.

Road closure from flooding is not cause for a shutdown unless the complex is being flooded. Once the station is shut down it has no power apart from the grid. It appears that the grid is most likely out as well which leaves the diesel generators to cool the pile.
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Don't they just withdraw the rods from the core, stop the reaction, and let them sit idle?  You only need to cool extracted rods if there is another problem causing them to over-heat...  they are already in a cooling environment.... diesel pumps would serve to push the coolant around... but if there is no reaction - no need for cooling...

What am I missing here?
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 19th, 2018 at 1:34am:
Don't they just withdraw the rods from the core, stop the reaction, and let them sit idle?  You only need to cool extracted rods if there is another problem causing them to over-heat...  they are already in a cooling environment.... diesel pumps would serve to push the coolant around... but if there is no reaction - no need for cooling...

What am I missing here?


They insert boron rods - I think. That stops the main reaction but there is still much short lived isotopes producing heat and residual heat which takes weeks to dissipate. During this time water must be pumped into the pile to aid cooling. If the pumps stop for even a brief time the water surrounding the pile temp will boil exposing the uranium rods. Causing a melt down.

However I'm no expert - there are others who could give a better explanation.
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Reply #28 - Sep 19th, 2018 at 7:10am
 
Richdude wrote on Sep 19th, 2018 at 1:08am:
So what was the "unusual event" which forced the emergency shutdown?

There is a media blackout on what is going at this station. So we are left only with conjecture.

Road closure from flooding is not cause for a shutdown unless the complex is being flooded. Once the station is shut down it has no power apart from the grid. It appears that the grid is most likely out as well which leaves the diesel generators to cool the pile.


The reports state the access issues are the cause. It's not an emergency and the only other terminology under the current guidelines is "unusual event".

Until we hear otherwise, as usual, you are substituting a command of the facts for a conspiracy theory rather than admitting you're wrong or cannot prove your claims.

And I want you to be wrong. I don't want there to be any threat of a meltdown, flooding issues, a cover-up or anything.

I don't know why you do.

Like seriously, who is telling you to say these things, what is your motivation? Is it another of Trump's backers you claim don't exist because he's self funded, which he isn't, who are pro coal?

I just can't understand the need for you to continually take the side of fake news and conspiracy...
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Reply #29 - Sep 19th, 2018 at 9:47am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 19th, 2018 at 7:10am:
Richdude wrote on Sep 19th, 2018 at 1:08am:
So what was the "unusual event" which forced the emergency shutdown?

There is a media blackout on what is going at this station. So we are left only with conjecture.

Road closure from flooding is not cause for a shutdown unless the complex is being flooded. Once the station is shut down it has no power apart from the grid. It appears that the grid is most likely out as well which leaves the diesel generators to cool the pile.


The reports state the access issues are the cause. It's not an emergency and the only other terminology under the current guidelines is "unusual event".

Until we hear otherwise, as usual, you are substituting a command of the facts for a conspiracy theory rather than admitting you're wrong or cannot prove your claims.

And I want you to be wrong. I don't want there to be any threat of a meltdown, flooding issues, a cover-up or anything.

I don't know why you do.

Like seriously, who is telling you to say these things, what is your motivation? Is it another of Trump's backers you claim don't exist because he's self funded, which he isn't, who are pro coal?

I just can't understand the need for you to continually take the side of fake news and conspiracy...



SPeaking of fake news, turns out that photo someone posted on here of Anderson Cooper supposedly "faking" flood coverage....turns out to be fake.
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Yeah, I saw that too but I couldn't find the original post.

I wonder how many of them that made such a big deal about how bad fake news is will take the time to correct their comments.

Hah, yeah right.
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There is a news blackout on the reactor still in place. The river is still rising upstream however the plant sits on a coastal plain 4 miles from the ocean. Hopefully the water  will spread when it reaches the plain.
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Richdude wrote on Sep 19th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
There is a news blackout on the reactor still in place. The river is still rising upstream however the plant sits on a coastal plain 4 miles from the ocean. Hopefully the water  will spread when it reaches the plain.


I assume you have a credible source that can corroborate the media blackout claim?
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SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 20th, 2018 at 12:00am:
Richdude wrote on Sep 19th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
There is a news blackout on the reactor still in place. The river is still rising upstream however the plant sits on a coastal plain 4 miles from the ocean. Hopefully the water  will spread when it reaches the plain.


I assume you have a credible source that can corroborate the media blackout claim?


Of course it was front page news!
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Richdude wrote on Sep 20th, 2018 at 2:53am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 20th, 2018 at 12:00am:
Richdude wrote on Sep 19th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
There is a news blackout on the reactor still in place. The river is still rising upstream however the plant sits on a coastal plain 4 miles from the ocean. Hopefully the water  will spread when it reaches the plain.


I assume you have a credible source that can corroborate the media blackout claim?


Of course it was front page news!


Can you please share some of these reports? I've not been able to find any from my phone yet.

Thanks.
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SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 20th, 2018 at 7:26am:
Richdude wrote on Sep 20th, 2018 at 2:53am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 20th, 2018 at 12:00am:
Richdude wrote on Sep 19th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
There is a news blackout on the reactor still in place. The river is still rising upstream however the plant sits on a coastal plain 4 miles from the ocean. Hopefully the water  will spread when it reaches the plain.


I assume you have a credible source that can corroborate the media blackout claim?


Of course it was front page news!


Can you please share some of these reports? I've not been able to find any from my phone yet.

Thanks.


Sad.

A news blackout means that there is no news - period. I was being sarcastic when stating it was "front page news".

When there is an "emergency shutdown" at a nuclear power station - that is big news and there should be constant follow ups in the media. This we have not seen.
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Richdude wrote on Sep 20th, 2018 at 1:34pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 20th, 2018 at 7:26am:
Richdude wrote on Sep 20th, 2018 at 2:53am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 20th, 2018 at 12:00am:
Richdude wrote on Sep 19th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
There is a news blackout on the reactor still in place. The river is still rising upstream however the plant sits on a coastal plain 4 miles from the ocean. Hopefully the water  will spread when it reaches the plain.


I assume you have a credible source that can corroborate the media blackout claim?


Of course it was front page news!


Can you please share some of these reports? I've not been able to find any from my phone yet.

Thanks.


Sad.

A news blackout means that there is no news - period. I was being sarcastic when stating it was "front page news".

When there is an "emergency shutdown" at a nuclear power station - that is big news and there should be constant follow ups in the media. This we have not seen.



How do you know theres an emergency shutdown if no one is reporting it?
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Reply #37 - Sep 20th, 2018 at 2:10pm
 
Richdude wrote on Sep 20th, 2018 at 1:34pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 20th, 2018 at 7:26am:
Richdude wrote on Sep 20th, 2018 at 2:53am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 20th, 2018 at 12:00am:
Richdude wrote on Sep 19th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
There is a news blackout on the reactor still in place. The river is still rising upstream however the plant sits on a coastal plain 4 miles from the ocean. Hopefully the water  will spread when it reaches the plain.


I assume you have a credible source that can corroborate the media blackout claim?


Of course it was front page news!


Can you please share some of these reports? I've not been able to find any from my phone yet.

Thanks.


Sad.

A news blackout means that there is no news - period. I was being sarcastic when stating it was "front page news".


I see, so you're using the evidence that shows the situation isn't a Fukushima as proof of a conspiracy that it is?

Flap me...


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Reply #38 - Sep 20th, 2018 at 2:19pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 20th, 2018 at 1:53pm:
How do you know theres an emergency shutdown if no one is reporting it?


Has it even been declared an emergency shutdown?

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The reactor was shutdown when the hurricane hit it is still offline but will be restarted soon.

The latest report and was 18 hours ago - the flood waters are receding. Allowing access. Good news!

About time these old power plants are scrapped and replaced with much safer and cleaner generation 4 reactors or thorium.
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Reply #40 - Sep 21st, 2018 at 7:46am
 
Richdude wrote on Sep 21st, 2018 at 12:06am:
The reactor was shutdown when the hurricane hit it is still offline but will be restarted soon.

The latest report and was 18 hours ago - the flood waters are receding. Allowing access. Good news!

About time these old power plants are scrapped and replaced with much safer and cleaner generation 4 reactors or thorium.


That is great news.

But, it does prove you have an agenda and have been lying about everything else you've said in this thread.
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Reply #41 - Sep 23rd, 2018 at 7:19am
 
the only liar in this thread is you sadsack...

you are as bad as the Washington Post who had the audacity to even blame President Trump for the Hurricane...

any wonder no one has any faith in the Fake News Media and those who actually believe it...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Rich was 100% right from the very start...

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Reply #42 - Sep 23rd, 2018 at 8:15am
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 7:19am:
the only liar in this thread is you sadsack...

you are as bad as the Washington Post who had the audacity to even blame President Trump for the Hurricane...

any wonder no one has any faith in the Fake News Media and those who actually believe it...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Rich was 100% right from the very start...



Prove it bitch.

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a) answer the question?

b) ignore the question, and abuse Sad Kangaroo instead?

c) abandon this thread?



A, B or C?
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