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Reply #30 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 4:11pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 12th, 2018 at 3:40pm:
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Perhaps serina is offended by her appearance



Imo, this is the crux of the issue with many people of colour





Agreed....oh I penned that anyway.  Grin

Was Michael jackson a black man or a white man? He can't be both.
He said himself it doesn't matter if you're black or white.....but I think it did to him personally.


Well - would you be happy if you looked like an ape?


I do  Grin
I am by no means a picture of perfection. In fact....I'd love to have this particular cartoonist draw me. I'd pay him money for it too. Is that silly or what?  Grin
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Reply #31 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 5:11pm
 
Aussie wrote on Sep 11th, 2018 at 4:27pm:
Can anyone tell me where racism can be seen in that cartoon?

I THINK IT WAS RACIST!

THE HEAVY FEATURES WERE EXAGGERATED: IT WAS SARCASTIC AND AIMED TO HURT!

CARTOONS, EXPECIALLY POLITICAL CARTOONS ARE,... AIMED TO HURT YET THIS WAS RACIST IN ITS NATURE!

RACISM IS A BUSINESS BRUTHER... haven't you heard?
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Reply #32 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 5:12pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 11th, 2018 at 4:28pm:
Aussie wrote on Sep 11th, 2018 at 4:27pm:
Can anyone tell me where racism can be seen in that cartoon?



That's the point Aussie,
the Yanks have no sense of humor.

It wasn't humour: sarcasm aims to hurt!
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Reply #33 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 5:14pm
 
Aussie wrote on Sep 11th, 2018 at 5:03pm:
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AN American political editor has explained why he believes an Australian cartoonist’s depiction of Serena Williams was racist — regardless of intent.

Dr Jason Johnson, who is also a professor of politics and journalism at Morgan State University, suggested the Herald Sun’s Mark Knight was aware he’d drawn Williams as a “brooding, big-lipped, almost ape-like” figure and that it was unnecessary in his endeavour to highlight her bad behaviour at the US Open.

“If the cartoon was purely about bad behaviour I don’t see why she had to be depicted the way she was. You can have her jumping up and down, whining, crying, whatever — that’s typical for sport … you can depict people as sore losers,” Dr Johnson told Melbourne’s 3AW.


How else can you draw her in that moment of dummy spitting? 
Should he have drawn her as a Marilyn Munroe look-a-like or a Serena Williams look-a-like?

That's exactly what she looks like when she is wearing her angry dummy spitting pants.

Serena.....you ain't no oil painting, ya know.

You're nothing aussie: you may aswell be calling people human garbage bruther  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #34 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 5:15pm
 
Aussie wrote on Sep 11th, 2018 at 5:21pm:

oh, photo time now, lol: you're a junk journalist mate selling what now?

lol  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #35 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 5:17pm
 
Valkie wrote on Sep 11th, 2018 at 7:24pm:
Cartoonists generally exaggerate one or more specific features of a particular person, not only to highlight that attribute, but to help people identify with that individual.

howard was usually depicted as a short bald bloke with excessively ling eyebrows
Prince Charles was seen wandering around with Dumbo ears
Abbott, usually with big ears and a pair of budgie smugglers
Etc etc

Is it the cartoonists fault that frizzy hair and ball on lips are obvious features of Serina?

Political correctness has taken over common sense.


I disagree: it was aimed to hurt, ....and not just her but her whole culture! IT WAS RACIST

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Reply #36 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 5:19pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 11th, 2018 at 9:58pm:
If he had drawn the character as one half Serena and the other half John McEnroe, no one would have anything to complain about

Lol, did you really bother typing that?
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Reply #37 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 5:21pm
 
Aussie wrote on Sep 12th, 2018 at 9:01am:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 12th, 2018 at 8:56am:
She does look like an ape.


Forget the ape crap.  He has drawn Serena as she is, simple as that.

Aussie is a joke, lol:  Grin
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Reply #38 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 5:32pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 12th, 2018 at 5:17pm:
I disagree: it was aimed to hurt, ....and not just her but her whole culture! IT WAS RACIST



And if it hadn't been for social media there would have been no hurt?  Because Serena dosn't get the Australian news.

You mean cartoons of Tony Abbott and his big ears are designed to hurt? Shocked

Would that be considered thin skinned?

Serena does have big gluteus maximi - no denying that. She has a big mouth - no denying that. She had a big dummy spit - no denying that.  Although the dummy was white - did that make it racist?

Perhaps he should have done a caricature of Sharipova and put in William's name instead. Wink

You do know what a caricature is? Maybe he should have made her a size 8?
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Reply #39 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 6:18pm
 
It was definitely a good laugh and only racist if you choose to see it that way, very cunning piece of work and tests some boundaries, I am sure the ape like features would never had come into his head.
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Reply #40 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 6:36pm
 
If  I was playing football and some 16 year old teenage chick called me "King Kong" from the sideline.
I would be 'flattered'. King Kong was a physically strong 'symbolism'. I would just get on an keep concentrating on the game and games ahead.

...but not Adam Goodes. No. He takes it as 'Racism' with his 'thin' skin approach and goes legal/Media about it after the game. In fact it becomes an obsession with him and he moves onto becoming an 'Ambassador' for race relations or something, while his football career just fizzes out behind him (probably quicker than it should have).

x3 'black' soccer players are thrown 'bananas' by fans in separate games, different countries. Two of them cry 'foul' and go for the 'race card', while only one picks up the banana and eats it - thanking the fans who suddenly 'cheer' him for his honourable 'thick skin' toughness.

So a white Aussie is playing a sport and some black fans throw a meat pie at him, a beer can or do some impersonations of Paul Hogan's "Dag" with an eski and beer-gut. Should we be so 'thin' skinned about it?

Red haired/fair skinned people get called Rangas after Orangu-tangs. Do you hear any of them crying 'Racism'?

McEnroe was never 'praised' for his tirads, nor is others. So why should Serena be special?
The Media pumps out all sorts of 'cartoons' like this - but I guess is wrong if its about Serena, but not Trump  Roll Eyes
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Reply #41 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 6:38pm
 
It can't be wacists as there are no waces. outward characeristics have nothing to do with genetics - as bwian tells us, there is only the human wace.

Serena is depicted as a dummy-spitting female of the human wace.  That you can RECOGNISE her from the cartoon makes you a wacist. It shows that you see her as an African woman which she is not. There is only one race, the human wace.

And so on, ad infinitum.  And tsk, tsk,

Bwian  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #42 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 6:40pm
 
Call a horse face a dog face and he will laugh along with you.  Call him a horse face and he will hate you for ever.


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Reply #43 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 6:42pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2018 at 6:38pm:
It can't be wacists as there are no waces. outward characeristics have nothing to do with genetics - as bwian tells us, there is only the human wace.

Serena is depicted as a dummy-spitting female of the human wace.  That you can RECOGNISE her from the cartoon makes you a wacist. It shows that you see her as an African woman which she is not. There is only one race, the human wace.

And so on, ad infinitum.  And tsk, tsk,

Bwian  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


But you must see all the differences (different races) before you can see the 'oneness' of them all. Just like States or Provinces to a Nation and Nations to a Region.
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Re: Serena Willams cartoon
Reply #44 - Sep 12th, 2018 at 7:03pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 12th, 2018 at 4:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 12th, 2018 at 3:40pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 12th, 2018 at 2:58pm:
PZ547 wrote on Sep 12th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
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Perhaps serina is offended by her appearance



Imo, this is the crux of the issue with many people of colour





Agreed....oh I penned that anyway.  Grin

Was Michael jackson a black man or a white man? He can't be both.
He said himself it doesn't matter if you're black or white.....but I think it did to him personally.


Well - would you be happy if you looked like an ape?


I do  Grin
I am by no means a picture of perfection. In fact....I'd love to have this particular cartoonist draw me. I'd pay him money for it too. Is that silly or what?  Grin



I'm sorry to hear that you look like an ape.
Did you ever consider taking up professional wrestling?

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