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Mattyfisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 92353 Gender:	Re: Indonesia 2004 Reply #15 - Sep 13^th, 2018 at 11:41am polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12^th, 2018 at 1:39pm: issuevoter wrote on Sep 9^th, 2018 at 7:13pm: our friends in Indonesian detonated a bomb outside our embassy Are many of your friends murderers issue? Not yet, G. Moses is just waiting around for the fullness of time. Behead all those who insult decent white people, no?
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Reply #16 - Sep 13^th, 2018 at 11:45am

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12^th, 2018 at 3:26pm:

you are being unreasonable moses. Obviously you have a very strong idea about what Islam is about, and you simply can't fathom why anyone would have a different idea - so you attack them as in denial, irrational, and of course mentally incapable due to inbreeding.

But I don't think this is really even about Islam. You clearly have no empathy for anyone who holds different beliefs to you. My guess is when you are not trolling muslims and their apologists about Islam, you're probably demonstrating your inability to appreciate different points of view in other matters.

He's not too fond of apologists either. Them and the leftards will get what's coming, along with the Muslims.

It's all in the Bible, you see.

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Reply #17 - Sep 13^th, 2018 at 12:04pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 13^th, 2018 at 11:41am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12^th, 2018 at 1:39pm:

issuevoter wrote on Sep 9^th, 2018 at 7:13pm:

our friends in Indonesian detonated a bomb outside our embassy

Are many of your friends murderers issue?

Not yet, G. Moses is just waiting around for the fullness of time.

Behead all those who insult decent white people, no?

Remind me driveler, who are the ones parading through cities exhorting beheadings, who are the ones going choppy choppy and videotaping it, who are the ones holding heads whilst pointing a finger to the sky, can you say the word? Starts with an m...goes like...

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Reply #18 - Sep 13^th, 2018 at 12:30pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 13^th, 2018 at 11:02am:

freediver wrote on Sep 12^th, 2018 at 6:24pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12^th, 2018 at 2:29pm:

Let me guess moses - declare that the quran is flawed, wrong and evil?

Clearly rejecting the terrorist's interpretation and promoting a peaceful interpretation doesn't help, as that just results in me being labelled a liar, apologist, deflector etc etc...

Moses can you at least confirm that the only possible option I have that would satisfy you is to reject Islam? At least be honest about that.

If you simply lie about what really motivates them, you are not going to solve the real problem Gandalf. Your lies only work on non-Muslims who are disinterested in Islam. If anything, they will make it worse.

So just to get this straight: when I say what motivates them is having an interpretation that I don't believe is correct - as opposed to insisting that what motivates them is *the* interpretation that cannot possibly be argued as incorrect - thats me lying, is that right FD?

You have tried all sorts of trivial and misleading excuses for terrorism. Misrepresenting the Quran and Muhammad's words and actions is among them. Do you remember telling us it is because they are "alienated"?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20023 Canberra Gender:	Re: Indonesia 2004 Reply #19 - Sep 13^th, 2018 at 3:21pm I'm pretty sure I could find a quote of the pre-2007 FD asserting that terrorists are not primarily motivated by Islam. Does that mean you were lying too FD?
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Reply #20 - Sep 13^th, 2018 at 5:02pm

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 13^th, 2018 at 12:04pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 13^th, 2018 at 11:41am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12^th, 2018 at 1:39pm:

issuevoter wrote on Sep 9^th, 2018 at 7:13pm:

our friends in Indonesian detonated a bomb outside our embassy

Are many of your friends murderers issue?

Not yet, G. Moses is just waiting around for the fullness of time.

Behead all those who insult decent white people, no?

Remind me driveler, who are the ones parading through cities exhorting beheadings, who are the ones going choppy choppy and videotaping it, who are the ones holding heads whilst pointing a finger to the sky, can you say the word? Starts with an m...goes like...

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Yes, but all this will change in the fullness of time, Secret. Moses is simply biding his time until decent white people everywhere get fed up with the evil in the Holy Quran and decide to behead all the Muslims and their leftist apologists.

It may not happen overnight, dear, but it will happen.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47446 At my desk.	Re: Indonesia 2004 Reply #21 - Sep 13^th, 2018 at 6:59pm polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 13^th, 2018 at 3:21pm: I'm pretty sure I could find a quote of the pre-2007 FD asserting that terrorists are not primarily motivated by Islam. Does that mean you were lying too FD? I had not yet asked any Muslims about it. It would be more accurate to say I was wrong. I would expect you to know better.
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Reply #22 - Sep 14^th, 2018 at 9:16am

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 13^th, 2018 at 5:02pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 13^th, 2018 at 12:04pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 13^th, 2018 at 11:41am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12^th, 2018 at 1:39pm:

issuevoter wrote on Sep 9^th, 2018 at 7:13pm:

our friends in Indonesian detonated a bomb outside our embassy

Are many of your friends murderers issue?

Not yet, G. Moses is just waiting around for the fullness of time.

Behead all those who insult decent white people, no?

Remind me driveler, who are the ones parading through cities exhorting beheadings, who are the ones going choppy choppy and videotaping it, who are the ones holding heads whilst pointing a finger to the sky, can you say the word? Starts with an m...goes like...

Roll Eyes

Yes, but all this will change in the fullness of time, Secret. Moses is simply biding his time until decent white people everywhere get fed up with the evil in the Holy Quran and decide to behead all the Muslims and their leftist apologists.

It may not happen overnight, dear, but it will happen.

ya couldn't do it could you, the m word, an admission too far.

Fade back to drivel.

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Reply #23 - Sep 14^th, 2018 at 9:56am

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 13^th, 2018 at 5:02pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 13^th, 2018 at 12:04pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 13^th, 2018 at 11:41am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12^th, 2018 at 1:39pm:

issuevoter wrote on Sep 9^th, 2018 at 7:13pm:

our friends in Indonesian detonated a bomb outside our embassy

Are many of your friends murderers issue?

Not yet, G. Moses is just waiting around for the fullness of time.

Behead all those who insult decent white people, no?

Remind me driveler, who are the ones parading through cities exhorting beheadings, who are the ones going choppy choppy and videotaping it, who are the ones holding heads whilst pointing a finger to the sky, can you say the word? Starts with an m...goes like...

Roll Eyes

Yes, but all this will change in the fullness of time, Secret. Moses is simply biding his time until decent white people everywhere get fed up with the evil in the Holy Quran and decide to behead all the Muslims and their leftist apologists.

It may not happen overnight, dear, but it will happen.

What is Holy got to do with the Koran?

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Reply #24 - Sep 14^th, 2018 at 9:59am

freediver wrote on Sep 13^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 13^th, 2018 at 3:21pm:

I'm pretty sure I could find a quote of the pre-2007 FD asserting that terrorists are not primarily motivated by Islam. Does that mean you were lying too FD?

I had not yet asked any Muslims about it. It would be more accurate to say I was wrong.

I would expect you to know better.

Thats funny, I thought Abu and Falah gave the same mealy mouthed excuses about alienation and evil western imperialism - no?

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Reply #25 - Sep 14^th, 2018 at 12:24pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 14^th, 2018 at 9:59am:

freediver wrote on Sep 13^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 13^th, 2018 at 3:21pm:

I'm pretty sure I could find a quote of the pre-2007 FD asserting that terrorists are not primarily motivated by Islam. Does that mean you were lying too FD?

I had not yet asked any Muslims about it. It would be more accurate to say I was wrong.

I would expect you to know better.

Thats funny, I thought Abu and Falah gave the same mealy mouthed excuses about alienation and evil western imperialism - no?

Probably. What's your point?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20023 Canberra Gender:	Re: Indonesia 2004 Reply #26 - Sep 14^th, 2018 at 3:01pm My point is, if what you say is true, you seem to be saying that your evidence for this particular smear on Islam is based on the opposite of what muslims actually said to you. But that shouldn't surprise anyone I suppose. google: taqqiya
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Reply #27 - Sep 14^th, 2018 at 4:19pm

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Moses is simply biding his time until decent white people everywhere get fed up with the evil in the Holy Quran and decide to behead all the Muslims and their leftist apologists.

-----aaand the truth is moses is biding his time untill all decent people (of every colour and persuasion) get fed up with muslim / apologist excuses, and demand that all the evil in the qur'an which causes islamic terrorism be thoroughly / honestly scrutinized and reviewed.

Any beheadings which consequently take place, will be the highest grade of muslims attacking the corrupters (*moderates*) as the qur'an tells them to.

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It may not happen overnight, dear, but it will happen.

Many a true word is spoken in jest.

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Reply #28 - Sep 14^th, 2018 at 10:08pm

moses wrote on Sep 14^th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

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Moses is simply biding his time until decent white people everywhere get fed up with the evil in the Holy Quran and decide to behead all the Muslims and their leftist apologists.

-----aaand the truth is moses is biding his time untill all decent people (of every colour and persuasion) get fed up with muslim / apologist excuses, and demand that all the evil in the qur'an which causes islamic terrorism be thoroughly / honestly scrutinized and reviewed.

Any beheadings which consequently take place, will be the highest grade of muslims attacking the corrupters (*moderates*) as the qur'an tells them to.

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It may not happen overnight, dear, but it will happen.

Many a true word is spoken in jest.

And what will you do with the Muselmen, Moses?

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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: Indonesia 2004 Reply #29 - Sep 15^th, 2018 at 3:44pm islam will disintegrate as it simply can't withstand any honest investigating of the absolute evil in the qur'an. That's why you and others are scared of the truth, you prefer the status quo of daily bloodshed over being honest about the qur'an. You simply can't bring yourself to admit you're wrong.
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