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Re: Elder abuse
Reply #15 - Sep 7^th, 2018 at 9:01am

Jasin wrote on Sep 6^th, 2018 at 11:30pm:

I worked 10 years worth of Aged Care.
I loved it, but it was hard work - physically, especially on the back.
More Males should be doing it than females, to be honest.
It is a wonderful job, but while Mummy wiped your little bum when you were little, I think its a man's duty to wipe the bum of society's elderly.

With that said - 80% of people who grow old, DO NOT grow old like what you see in Aged Care.
Because of Drug, Smoking & Alcohol - many Elderly are 'hard to handle' (even for themselves) due to mental/physical breakdown.
Some are indeed 'violent' - but as a guy, its not about doing stuff like the above photo or punching back.
It's about rolling with the punches, taking the hits and just calmly restraining without bruising/injury (physical assertiveness).
The guys who can't cope with the odd punch - should not be in Aged Care and should definitely HTFU. The record amount of punches I copped was over 50 from an old guy who tried to run from Nepean Hospital. I just took it because ...I'm a man who could. I've copped far worse from Non-Elderly, that's for sure.

Violence is a part of Aged Care - many residents are 'dumped' residents, even by the Govt. They are not happy, they are not reasonable, they are not in control of much of themselves anymore. Most of the times they are violently unco-operative out of 'fear' (like fear of falling, being dropped by a physically uncapable Staff member).

Sadly for Aged Care - they have to take 'anyone' to do AiN because they are desperate for workers.
Alas for Australia, it seems there is more interest for guys to do 'Military' to become Men. Even though there is more need in Aged Care, BY FAR, for males than there is for Military (to fight as Mercs for USA, etc).

Aged Care taught me 'patience', dignity and respect.
Along with appreciation of how 'physically' hard women can work. To the point, in construction - I gave many a bludger male a hard time "I've seen women work harder than you, fool!"

If you import 'cheap Asian/Indian' labour - this is what you get. Crap ability, especially when they have to handle things on their own.

I was so good. I was the first ever to pick up (and implement) the ability of Dementia to hon in on something, while everything else was lost to them. I ended up being able to make Dementia 'comply' without stress or fuss (more successful with males, than females though). Many Doctors acknowledged my efforts ...but as I was 'just' a poo-wiping AiN. Tongue

Anyway. It's 'desperation' - that Aged Care has to employ 'anyone'.
Especially when everything is based upon a 'white collar' view - the so-called 'clever' country is not recognised.

Too smart for their own good: White collars thinking they know how 'blue collar' work should be done.

That' the real problem! Wink

Because of drug smoking and alcohol? Dementia is the main cause.

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Re: Elder abuse
Reply #16 - Sep 7^th, 2018 at 9:25am

To me Dementia is brought on by a few things.
Not everyone gets it.
Drugs, Smoking, Alcohol - don't help the Dementia cause.

But to me,
Dementia is brought on by a life of not 'exercising' the mind/brain.

You see White Collars take up gym, jogging, squash - to keep their 'bodies' up to shape, while they sit and do mental work all day.
You see Blue Collars in the TAB rolling 'numbers' around in their heads to get some 'mental' stimulation.

Well its kinda like that.
If you don't 'exercise' your mind, it can turn to sludge (magic mushies don't help here either Tongue

).
Just like Astronauts go without 'gravity' for long periods and then come back down to earth where their muscles have weakened and they lack the strength, etc.
So too can the mind/brain fall into 'weakening'.

To me, Dementia is the result of 'lazy mind' and in the end, it bites them in the butt.

White Collar Tea Room: Clean, dishes all done. Quiet area.
Because they sometimes come in to wash, clean - just to give their minds a break, while doing something.

Blue Collar Tea Room: Messy, full of newspapers, books and discussions. Because they come in and do stuff all physically (like keep it clean) - but its alive with 'mental' stimulation to give their bodies a break.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 80294 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Elder abuse Reply #18 - Sep 7^th, 2018 at 10:24am Gordon wrote on Sep 7^th, 2018 at 10:02am: Did anyone see the full video? The poor old boy copped a bit of curry there It's the Indian way of caring for the aged....
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Re: Elder abuse
Reply #19 - Sep 7^th, 2018 at 10:28am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 7^th, 2018 at 10:24am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 7^th, 2018 at 10:02am:

Did anyone see the full video? The poor old boy copped a bit of curry there Sad

It's the Indian way of caring for the aged....

Imagine that was your dad/grandad. The only thing that would prevent me from vigilante justice would be the payout Id be getting from the nursing home.

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Re: Elder abuse
Reply #20 - Sep 7^th, 2018 at 10:31am

Usually, there is a fully qualified Psychiatric Nurse supervising these carers, issuing doctor prescribed medicines, taking blood samples etc........if there isn't then the organisation, in this case BUPA, is at fault.

If this were my father I would not only have the person committing the abuse arrested, I would take civil action against BUPA.......

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Re: Elder abuse
Reply #21 - Sep 7^th, 2018 at 10:40am

Gordon wrote on Sep 7^th, 2018 at 10:28am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 7^th, 2018 at 10:24am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 7^th, 2018 at 10:02am:

Did anyone see the full video? The poor old boy copped a bit of curry there Sad

It's the Indian way of caring for the aged....

Imagine that was your dad/grandad. The only thing that would prevent me from vigilante justice would be the payout Id be getting from the nursing home.

Get enough to put dad in responsible care.....

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Re: Elder abuse
Reply #22 - Sep 7^th, 2018 at 10:42am

You dump your oldies in a Aged Care facility,
packed with darkies because whites can't be bothered.

Well, what do you expect?

Might as well dump your oldies in India. See how they get treated.

Sometimes, its the oldies fault themselves. They treated their kids poorly. Never worked hard enough to afford to stay out of Aged Care. Neglected their health, so now they 'depend' on Aged Care.
Now they find themselves getting what they deserve.

Personally, I found Aged Care a very flexible 'working arrangement'. A far better alternative than working Bars, Waitering and all the other cliché jobs one does, if one has to go through Uni, etc.

But yes, I saw many a 'darkie' hit back, steal, etc - in Aged Care. Of course, I said my bit against it, etc. But disciplinary action was minimal - due to Staff Shortage.

But like I said. The majority of Aged in Australia do not end up in Aged Care facilities. Most end their days in Retirement villages or in Hospitals during their last few weeks. A minority are lucky to end them in their own homes, looked after and helped by other family members and family friends.

My grandmother, bless her soul. Got around quite well for her 80+ years of age. Fully independent and healthy. I her last few months, she just tied things up. Visited Family, even a long distance away. Then went home (I passed her at Christchurch airport in her last week. I yelled for her, but she stopped a moment, then kept on). She died in her sleep on my birthday ...sleeping towards wherever her Dreams took her.

I'm going to live to 100 years of age. Get my baggy green cap for knocking up my century (I should get one for having slept with over 100 women Cheesy

). I'm going to try for the devils number of 111 years of age just to piss a lot of women off! Cheesy

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Re: Elder abuse
Reply #23 - Sep 7^th, 2018 at 10:47am

if you are a noble man who has walked the "narrow road to success', then you will have been developing an awesome relationship with your children.
you will have been encouraging, sacrificing and training them and they will be buzzing off your awesome positive attitude.
such children will probably be fighting for the honour of caring for the noble parent when the noble parent becomes old.

if you have been a taker, a little creeper, a whiner and a complainer all your life, if you have been ,say, a trade unionist who wants to take or a public servant who wants to avoid industriousness or if you are a jealous marxist or come from any of the lower forms of behaviour, then you are probably a bit of a toxic influence and the kids will feel a mild disgust for you.

so now you are vibing with a life of complaint, you are negative and a crybaby, you see yourself as a victim of those ungrateful kids who should give to you (in the same way a marxist sees anyone else as someone who should give to him). you are anything but noble.

you probably (as jasin said) tried to take from drugs or alcohol or smokes and so your health is wrecked.

so you are a butt hurt, sooky, complainer who thinks everyone owes you and you have wrecked health and no resilience.

you are not exactly going to have people queueing up to give to you.

you are giving off a very negative vibe and thats what the universe will give back.

thats a universal law.

if you want to have a good and meaningful old age then be a noble person who walks the narrow road to success and who walks forward bearing your pain without complaint

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Re: Elder abuse
Reply #25 - Sep 7^th, 2018 at 8:45pm

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 7^th, 2018 at 10:31am:

Usually, there is a fully qualified Psychiatric Nurse supervising these carers, issuing doctor prescribed medicines, taking blood samples etc........if there isn't then the organisation, in this case BUPA, is at fault.

If this were my father I would not only have the person committing the abuse arrested, I would take civil action against BUPA.......

No, there is a registered nurse.

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