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Reply #15 - Sep 18th, 2018 at 9:00am
 
and the flood gates are open...  Smiley

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SCORCHED EARTH: Trump Orders DOJ to Release All Text Messages Relating to Russia Probe of Comey, McCabe, Ohr, Page and Strzok


President Trump issued an immediate declassification order on Carter Page FISA docs Monday afternoon.


FINALLY!

President Trump went scorched earth Monday and also ordered the DOJ to publicly release all text messages
WITHOUT REDACTION
relating to the Russia investigation from James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Bruce Ohr, Lisa Page and Peter Strzok.

CHAD PERGRAM: WH says “Trump has directed the Department of Justice (including the FBI) to publicly release all text messages relating to the Russia investigation, without redaction, of James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, and Bruce Ohr.”

“At the request of a number of committees of Congress, and for reasons of transparency,
the President has directed the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the DOJ (including the FBI) to provide for the immediate declassification of the following materials: (1) pages 10-12 and 17-34 of the June 2017 application to the FISA court in the matter of Carter W. Page; (2) all FBI reports of interviews with Bruce Ohr prepared in connection with the Russia investigation; and (3) all FBI reports of interviews prepared in connection with all Carter Page FISA applications.” the statement from the White House read.

It is important to note that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein signed the June 2017 FISA renewal –one month after he appointed Robert Mueller as special counsel to investigate Trump-Russia collusion.

Full statement from the White House:

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Reply #16 - Sep 18th, 2018 at 1:17pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 8:53am:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 18th, 2018 at 8:44am:
Like every other stunt these clowns have come up with, it will backfire. All that will happen is that legal scholars will look at the documents and declare that it was all above board.


im hearing that there was NO EVIDENCE of Russian "Collusion" before the Mueller investigation was set up...

from under oath FBI agents...

So they set up an investigation in an area of which there was NO CRIME...

Total Witch Hunt as any normal person could see from day one...

and an illegal one at that..



what you 'hear' is rather obviously biased. The entire investigation began because Papadopolous told Downer that the Trump campaign had DNC emails from the Russians. That was more than enough evidence to start the investigation. Why do you ignore such blatantly obvious evidence?  Are you stupid?
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Reply #17 - Sep 19th, 2018 at 12:49pm
 
Declassification...

Qanon’s Knew..  Wink

And the fake news media is so scared of Q that they shut down the “The GreatAwakening” Forum on Reddit...

It was getting 35 Million hits a month...
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Reply #18 - Sep 19th, 2018 at 12:52pm
 
And here’s some more information just for you weak-end

The DNC tried to bribe the Trump administration on the declass..

They said that they would back off and let the Judge Kavanaugh nomination go through if Trump stopped the Delcassification of the criminals within the FBI and DOJ..

Tump said...

No Deal...

Kavanaugh nomination WILL GO THOUGH...
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Reply #19 - Sep 19th, 2018 at 12:56pm
 
SO ...

What’s next you might ask??

When the declassification of documents come out the DNC and the FAKE NEW Media will call on Trumps IMpeachment trying to use the 25th...

Again..

for a 25th time I reckon it is now...

So I’m just preemptive one of YOURS or AIA’s retarded Impeach Trump threads when you get your “Q” from the Fake News Media...

Mark my words...
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Reply #20 - Sep 19th, 2018 at 12:58pm
 
Do you know how ridiculous the request is?

Unredacted information that could reveal sources of where the intelligence agencies are getting their information about Russia.

Even the current Trump appointees at the FBI and AG are saying No to his request because their sources and methods would be revealed.

Either Trump doesn't understand what he's asking, or the consequences or he understands and is trying to get that information to Russia.

Either way, both options are bad.

Remember when Snowden, Manning or Assange released this type of information and what the consequences were for them?

And now it seems there are reports that the White House can just release the information themselves as early as next week.

Will be interesting what happens.
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Reply #21 - Sep 19th, 2018 at 1:15pm
 
I don't think this is going to be the win you're hoping for Mech. 

It's likely if all the information was released, it would show the evidence Mueller has on Trump and his team.

But if the White House get to release only what they want they can paint whatever picture they like.

Trump's really getting desperate if he's willing to endanger so many lives just to try and escape the consequences of his actions.

What a noble alpha.
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Reply #22 - Sep 19th, 2018 at 1:26pm
 
The only people who are in danger are those who have been actively betraying the US of A..

Loretta Lynch is singing like a bird - I hear...

The little Smug Puke, Rod Rosenstein, is now begging Trump for a meeting to try and save has own arse...

Trump has now denied his second request for this meeting...

Like I said months ago... Rosenstein is corrupt and his head will roll...

Mark my words...
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Reply #23 - Sep 19th, 2018 at 1:45pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 19th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
The only people who are in danger are those who have been actively betraying the US of A..

Loretta Lynch is singing like a bird - I hear...

The little Smug Puke, Rod Rosenstein, is now begging Trump for a meeting to try and save has own arse...

Trump has now denied his second request for this meeting...

Like I said months ago... Rosenstein is corrupt and his head will roll...

Mark my words...


The truth will surface despite the efforts of the Democrats and some Republicans.

Trump will be victorious - just as day follows night.
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Reply #24 - Sep 19th, 2018 at 2:03pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 19th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
Do you know how ridiculous the request is?

Unredacted information that could reveal sources of where the intelligence agencies are getting their information about Russia.

Even the current Trump appointees at the FBI and AG are saying No to his request because their sources and methods would be revealed.

Either Trump doesn't understand what he's asking, or the consequences or he understands and is trying to get that information to Russia.

Either way, both options are bad.

Remember when Snowden, Manning or Assange released this type of information and what the consequences were for them?

And now it seems there are reports that the White House can just release the information themselves as early as next week.

Will be interesting what happens.


The CIA through the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency reports directly to the Director of National Intelligence.

The Director of National Intelligence, reports to the President of the United States.

The Director of the FBI, appointed by the President of the United States of America, reports directly to the United States Attorney General, who controls the Department of Justice.

The United States Attorney General reports directly to the President of the United States of America.

The President of the United States of America, the Chief Executive of the entire United States Government, is responsible for, & controls all Executive Officials in the United States Government.

Constitutionally, the President of the United States of America has the power to give orders to anyone in the Executive Branch of the United States Government, either directly, or through their Senior Executive Officer(s).

If the President orders Declassification by the FBI or the CIA they must comply.

The President as the Chief Executive Officer of the United States Government can Constitutionally fire any subordinate Officer within the Executive Branch of the US Government for disobeying a direct order without the need to consult anybody, or any other Branch of Government, nor is he required to give any reason for dismissal(s).



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Reply #25 - Sep 19th, 2018 at 2:28pm
 
In Stunning Move
Trump Declassifies Documents
Related to Russia Probe

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Source:      
NBC NEWS
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WASHINGTON — In an unprecedented move that stunned current and former intelligence officials, President Donald Trump on Monday ordered the public release of highly classified documents and text messages related to the FBI investigation into whether his campaign conspired with Russia.

A statement by the White House press office said Trump had directed the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), the Department of Justice and the FBI to declassify about 20 pages of a highly sensitive application for surveillance against Carter Page, a one-time Trump foreign policy aide.

The documents Trump is releasing reflect a specific request, down to the page numbers, made by the Republican members of the House judiciary and intelligence committees this summer. Justice and intelligence officials had resisted releasing the information on the grounds that it was too sensitive.

Trump also ordered the agencies to publicly release, in full, all text messages relating to the Russia investigation of former FBI Director James Comey, Former Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, former FBI employees Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, and current Justice Department lawyer Bruce Ohr, a Russian organized crime expert. Those are all people Trump has criticized as out to get him. All had Top Secret clearances granting them access to sensitive government secrets.

Trump’s directive caught intelligence agencies off-guard, and it remained unclear Monday whether national security professionals would have any opportunity to challenge any aspect of the decision.

ODNI spokesperson Kellie Wade said, "As requested by the White House, the ODNI is working expeditiously with our interagency partners to conduct a declassification review of the documents the President has identified for declassification."

In a statement, a Justice Department spokesperson said, "When the President issues such an order, it triggers a declassification review process that is conducted by various agencies within the intelligence community, in conjunction with the White House Counsel, to seek to ensure the safety of America's national security interests. The Department and the Federal Bureau of Investigation are already working with the Director of National Intelligence to comply with the President's order."

A U.S. official with direct knowledge told NBC News that the agencies would not be able to conduct a damage assessment on the text messages, because there are too many of them.

Rep. Adam Schiff, D.-Calif., the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, said he had been told the release of these materials could compromise intelligence sources and methods.

"President Trump, in a clear abuse of power, has decided to intervene in a pending law enforcement investigation by ordering the selective release of materials he believes are helpful to his defense team and thinks will advance a false narrative," Schiff said in a statement. (
His statement is only his personal opinion
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⮞ ⮞ The President has the authority to declassify any secret in the government, but experts could not recall a president doing so in a manner that seemed to leave aside any concerns raised by his own intelligence advisers.

"This is certainly unprecedented," said Robert Litt, the former general counsel of the ODNI during the Obama administration.

"Between the compromise of sources and methods, the impact on the willingness of people to cooperate, and the potential of selective release of classified material for partisan purposes, I think intelligence officials will find it very troubling."

The FBI had no immediate comment.

Trump’s move was clearly aimed at fueling a theory that has simmered for months in right-wing media and on Trump’s Twitter feed: That the FBI’s investigation into Russian election meddling, which began in July 2016, was tainted by "corruption" from its very start.

Trump argues, wrongly, that the investigation began based on the information gathered by former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele, who created a so-called dossier.

In fact, American officials have said, the FBI Russia investigation began when a Trump aide, George Papadopoulos, bragged that a Russian agent told him the Russian government had thousands of Hillary Clinton’s emails.

On Sept. 13, one of the lawmakers who had requested the materials, Rep. Devin Nunes, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, gave a speech before a conservative group in which he said Democrats had "corrupted" the Justice Department and the FBI.

He hinted that the materials he sought could soon be declassified.

Parts of the Carter Page surveillance application were made public in July, but they were heavily redacted. It was an application to the highly secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which grants secret national security surveillance warrants.

Continued....


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Reply #26 - Sep 19th, 2018 at 2:34pm
 
Panther wrote on Sep 19th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
If the President orders Declassification by the FBI or the CIA they must comply.


That is not the issue, his request for the unredacted information and the subject of that information that is.

He is playing a petty game of trying to avoid the consequences of his and his team's actions.

Those expressing concern over his request or Order if you so desire, are putting the country, it's safety, agency members and their methods above the petty squabble that is taking the focus of the President.

At best, BEST, Trump is displaying his usual ignorance of the world around him, the world he is in charge of and is trying to get material for the court of public opinion over the Russia investigation which may spectacularly backfire, or at worst, he's using this as a way of getting information Russia has requested to them.

I doubt it's the latter, but given all his other capitulations to Putin and Russia, it's sadly a legitimate possibility these days.

Surely you can understand the danger of releasing all the text messages and everything else Trump has requested, without redaction, from former high ranking members of the Intelligence and Federal Agencies regarding anything they've said that is even slightly related to Russia...

It seems like Trump is looking for more Strzok-esque messages to help attack the Mueller investigation and it's shocking that he'd take such risks with the country just to do so.

A petty vindictive man who is once again putting himself and his needs ahead of the country.

All of you defending this should be ashamed, but that ship has long sailed...
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Reply #28 - Sep 19th, 2018 at 3:00pm
 
Panther wrote on Sep 19th, 2018 at 2:49pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 19th, 2018 at 2:34pm:
Panther wrote on Sep 19th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
If the President orders Declassification by the FBI or the CIA they must comply.


That is not the issue, his request for the unredacted information and the subject of that information that is.

He is playing a petty game of trying to avoid the consequences of his and his team's actions.

Those expressing concern over his request or Order if you so desire, are putting the country, it's safety, agency members and their methods above the petty squabble that is taking the focus of the President.

At best, BEST, Trump is displaying his usual ignorance of the world around him, the world he is in charge of and is trying to get material for the court of public opinion over the Russia investigation which may spectacularly backfire, or at worst, he's using this as a way of getting information Russia has requested to them.

I doubt it's the latter, but given all his other capitulations to Putin and Russia, it's sadly a legitimate possibility these days.

Surely you can understand the danger of releasing all the text messages and everything else Trump has requested, without redaction, from former high ranking members of the Intelligence and Federal Agencies regarding anything they've said that is even slightly related to Russia...

It seems like Trump is looking for more Strzok-esque messages to help attack the Mueller investigation and it's shocking that he'd take such risks with the country just to do so.

A petty vindictive man who is once again putting himself and his needs ahead of the country.

All of you defending this should be ashamed, but that ship has long sailed...


Read my posts above......not only can he order it, but he can order ALL of it completely redacted.....

The President if fully within his Constitutional Power to do so.

He has expressly done so, & they will comply, or face the consequences....which could go far beyond removal.

The Constitution of the United States of America gives the President far reaching powers.....that's just one of many reasons why President Donald John Trump is the most Powerful Man in the World!

Spit the dummy........whinge all you want......facts are facts.....President Trump will prevail!!!
Yasssah, dat Presiden' .... He dun got da "juice"!!
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Jesus, you're a slimy bastard...

The concern is not the order, but what he's ordered, not from the standpoint of constitutional power but what he wants, his motivations for it and the dangers involved.

All the information you ignored, specifically discoloured in the quote, is the point of the concern.

But as usual, you cherry pick and argue a different point entirely...
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