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Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:48am
 
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Australia’s first Muslim senator accuses Australians of building their nation on invasion and land theft.


Then says, 'Sorry not sorry. This is my home and I'm not going back to where I came from.'


Australia’s first Muslim Senator not only
suggested it was racist to oppose Islam
, she also accused Australians of building their nation on invasion and land theft.

In her maiden speech
Green’s Senator
Mehreen Faruqi said,

“We are gathered here today on stolen land… Australia is a nation built on the invasion and colonisation of sovereign nations. It surprises me and saddens me that this reality is still denied, often vehemently.”


Ms Faruqi went on to say, “I bring to this chamber my track record in shaking things up and shifting the agenda on issues as diverse as: decriminalising abortion, drug law reform, LGBTQI rights, the right to die with dignity, and protecting our environment.”

“My presence in the Senate is an affront to some. They are offended that people of colour and Muslims have the audacity to not only exist, but to open our mouths and join the public debate.”


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Reply #1 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:49am
 
by the way...

Islam is not a "RACE"....

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oh NO  not more PITY ME speeches..

how can she be classed and aussie   when she refers to our history  as an Invasion  I take serious offence to that. Angry Angry Angry

who voted for this person??? Angry Angry
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Reply #3 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:53am
 
she never even got one vote to get into the Senate to Spit in our faces cods..

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Faruqi is due to become a Greens senator for New South Wales this afternoon during a joint sitting of the state parliament, where she will be chosen to fill the casual vacancy left by the outgoing Lee Rhiannon.
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Reply #4 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:57am
 
The whole mindset of the greens is, how can I make you as miserable as I am.
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Gordon wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:57am:
The whole mindset of the greens is, how can I make you as miserable as I am.


Just look at what the London Muslim Mayor has done to the city....

Rapes
Acid Attacks
murders
Hit and Runs
Mass Stabbings

and if you speak out about it (because they are being done by Muslims mainly) then you are a

RACIST!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #6 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 8:19am
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 8:04am:
Gordon wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:57am:
The whole mindset of the greens is, how can I make you as miserable as I am.


Just look at what the London Muslim Mayor has done to the city....

Rapes
Acid Attacks
murders
Hit and Runs
Mass Stabbings

and if you speak out about it (because they are being done by Muslims mainly) then you are a

RACIST!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Have those things only happened since a supposed muslim has been a mayor?

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Reply #7 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 8:22am
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:48am:
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Australia’s first Muslim senator accuses Australians of building their nation on invasion and land theft.


Then says, 'Sorry not sorry. This is my home and I'm not going back to where I came from.'


Australia’s first Muslim Senator not only
suggested it was racist to oppose Islam
, she also accused Australians of building their nation on invasion and land theft.

In her maiden speech
Green’s Senator
Mehreen Faruqi said,

“We are gathered here today on stolen land… Australia is a nation built on the invasion and colonisation of sovereign nations. It surprises me and saddens me that this reality is still denied, often vehemently.”


Ms Faruqi went on to say, “I bring to this chamber my track record in shaking things up and shifting the agenda on issues as diverse as: decriminalising abortion, drug law reform, LGBTQI rights, the right to die with dignity, and protecting our environment.”

“My presence in the Senate is an affront to some. They are offended that people of colour and Muslims have the audacity to not only exist, but to open our mouths and join the public debate.”


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Invasion!? Sounds familiar right? Since when did we Muslims have the right to point the finger when literally every Muslim country was established by conquests and invasions!?

https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1033656918370222080




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Just when you thought Yassmin Abdel-Magied was bad. Here’s worse:

https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1033644530967359488

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.
 
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Reply #8 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 8:30am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 8:19am:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 8:04am:
Gordon wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:57am:
The whole mindset of the greens is, how can I make you as miserable as I am.


Just look at what the London Muslim Mayor has done to the city....

Rapes
Acid Attacks
murders
Hit and Runs
Mass Stabbings

and if you speak out about it (because they are being done by Muslims mainly) then you are a

RACIST!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Have those things only happened since a supposed muslim has been a mayor?

Spot



nothing supposed about the Lord Mayor of London..

he is a MUSLIM.

my daughter has just returned from a week in London....she was there two years ago....and she was shocked and not happy at the deterioration.. even in that short time... Cry Cry  its filling up with deadbeats  and the homeless.....lets not forget  its the Capital of the whole country......its what most see first....
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thanks for that baron   I do hope that lady reads those links.....


as the old saying goes..

he who is with sin! etc etc..
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Reply #10 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 8:48am
 
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:51am:
oh NO  not more PITY ME speeches..

how can she be classed and aussie   when she refers to our history  as an Invasion  I take serious offence to that. Angry Angry Angry

who voted for this person??? Angry Angry


Muslims. Funny though most Muslims would not support LGBITQ or abortion issues.

Edit/ amendment -  I see Barons post that she ... like our current Prime Minister wasn't elected ... just put in the position.
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Reply #11 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:22am
 
I don't recall invading anything - I was born here and so were my forebears going back generations...  if I find a drop of Aboriginal blood, can I mek a lend claim mate?  Secred site, y'know....
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Australia’s first Muslim Senator not only suggested it was racist to oppose Islam


Oh look, another Muslim playing the race card. I wonder what she thinks of Muhammad's campaigns of rape, pillage and ethnic cleansing?
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cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:51am:
oh NO  not more PITY ME speeches..

how can she be classed and aussie   when she refers to our history  as an Invasion  I take serious offence to that. Angry Angry Angry

who voted for this person??? Angry Angry




So what in our history would lead you to believe it wasn't colonised. WHat does Terra Nullius mean?
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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 8:04am:
Gordon wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:57am:
The whole mindset of the greens is, how can I make you as miserable as I am.


Just look at what the London Muslim Mayor has done to the city....

Rapes
Acid Attacks
murders
Hit and Runs
Mass Stabbings

and if you speak out about it (because they are being done by Muslims mainly) then you are a

RACIST!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy




Are you saying the London Mayor has personally committed rapes, acid attacks, murders?
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 1:40pm:
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:51am:
oh NO  not more PITY ME speeches..

how can she be classed and aussie   when she refers to our history  as an Invasion  I take serious offence to that. Angry Angry Angry

who voted for this person??? Angry Angry




So what in our history would lead you to believe it wasn't colonised. WHat does Terra Nullius mean?



seriously!   COLONISED also means INVADED..

I didnt know that! Angry Angry
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Gnads wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 8:48am:
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:51am:
oh NO  not more PITY ME speeches..

how can she be classed and aussie   when she refers to our history  as an Invasion  I take serious offence to that. Angry Angry Angry

who voted for this person??? Angry Angry


Muslims. Funny though most Muslims would not support LGBITQ or abortion issues.

Edit/ amendment -  I see Barons post that she ... like our current Prime Minister wasn't elected ... just put in the position.



BY THE GREENS..

we have so much to THANK the GREENS for... dont we?..

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cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 1:40pm:
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:51am:
oh NO  not more PITY ME speeches..

how can she be classed and aussie   when she refers to our history  as an Invasion  I take serious offence to that. Angry Angry Angry

who voted for this person??? Angry Angry




So what in our history would lead you to believe it wasn't colonised. WHat does Terra Nullius mean?



seriously!   COLONISED also means INVADED..

I didnt know that! Angry Angry



Stop becoming hysterical and start being logical.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:12pm:
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 1:40pm:
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:51am:
oh NO  not more PITY ME speeches..

how can she be classed and aussie   when she refers to our history  as an Invasion  I take serious offence to that. Angry Angry Angry

who voted for this person??? Angry Angry




So what in our history would lead you to believe it wasn't colonised. WHat does Terra Nullius mean?



seriously!   COLONISED also means INVADED..

I didnt know that! Angry Angry



Stop becoming hysterical and start being logical.



so thats your answer... aussie mk11. Smiley

you wouldnt like me if I became Hysterical!
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Reply #19 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:42pm
 
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:32pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:12pm:
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 1:40pm:
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:51am:
oh NO  not more PITY ME speeches..

how can she be classed and aussie   when she refers to our history  as an Invasion  I take serious offence to that. Angry Angry Angry

who voted for this person??? Angry Angry




So what in our history would lead you to believe it wasn't colonised. WHat does Terra Nullius mean?



seriously!   COLONISED also means INVADED..

I didnt know that! Angry Angry



Stop becoming hysterical and start being logical.



so thats your answer... aussie mk11. Smiley

you wouldnt like me if I became Hysterical!



Well essentially what is the difference between colonising with no regard to the indigenous population and invading a country with no regard to the indigenous population.
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Long term, the colonisation of Australia will GREATLY benefit Aboriginals.

Time they got over history and grasped the incredible opportunities available to them.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:42pm:
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:32pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:12pm:
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 1:40pm:
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:51am:
oh NO  not more PITY ME speeches..

how can she be classed and aussie   when she refers to our history  as an Invasion  I take serious offence to that. Angry Angry Angry

who voted for this person??? Angry Angry




So what in our history would lead you to believe it wasn't colonised. WHat does Terra Nullius mean?



seriously!   COLONISED also means INVADED..

I didnt know that! Angry Angry



Stop becoming hysterical and start being logical.



so thats your answer... aussie mk11. Smiley

you wouldnt like me if I became Hysterical!



Well essentially what is the difference between colonising with no regard to the indigenous population and invading a country with no regard to the indigenous population.

ahhh the good old side step.. Grin Grin

yes seriously  mate thats what they did all those years ago..

the Aztecs disappeared entirely... an enormous amount of Africans were made slaves and transported far and wide....

so help me...the founders and settlers   didnt do every thing right no one disputes that... but we cant DO A THING ABOUT IT....

I do not see any other country!!!! whinge as much as this country does..... poo  Timor and Many countries in Sth America speak Portuguese or Spanish  what does that tell you???..
talk about a whingefest....

if it makes you feel any better I am sure our aboriginal chums will take your donation of any land you may think you own.... Angry Angry Angry

cus I dont own any   mine is on loan from the ACT govt  its all in the fine print....
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Gordon wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:57pm:
Long term, the colonisation of Australia will GREATLY benefit Aboriginals.

Time they got over history and grasped the incredible opportunities available to them.



it does now gordy   some folks wont allow them to think about that though..

do you think any other country looks after the native inhabitants as we so??

I watched a report on Bangladesh yesterday   HORRIFIC... I do not see one aboriginal child doing what the children of that country HAVE to do.....

in 2018... it was is unbelievable children working in mines....living side by side with a railway..

its all they know....

its hard to get it out of my head to be honest....it was done for UNICEF.....I would like some of the leaders that do nothing but complain about this country  to sit and watch  maybe even go there   as I believe the smell was beyond belief....

they may come back with a different attitude that may do some good for our aboriginals...
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Reply #23 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 3:14pm
 
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 3:04pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:57pm:
Long term, the colonisation of Australia will GREATLY benefit Aboriginals.

Time they got over history and grasped the incredible opportunities available to them.



it does now gordy   some folks wont allow them to think about that though..

do you think any other country looks after the native inhabitants as we so??

I watched a report on Bangladesh yesterday   HORRIFIC... I do not see one aboriginal child doing what the children of that country HAVE to do.....

in 2018... it was is unbelievable children working in mines....living side by side with a railway..

its all they know....

its hard to get it out of my head to be honest....it was done for UNICEF.....I would like some of the leaders that do nothing but complain about this country  to sit and watch  maybe even go there   as I believe the smell was beyond belief....

they may come back with a different attitude that may do some good for our aboriginals...


Aboriginals do face adversity, that's a fact. Racism exists and many are stuck at the bottom of the socio-economic ladder, but every year these things improve and their lot is slowly getting better.

My argument that colonization is beneficial to them is based on the premise that a liberal western democracy is so far, the pinnacle of human civilisation.

To arrive at this point, the cultures that developed it bashed, bludgeoned and raped each other mercilessly for a thousand years. Aboriginals have basically had it handed to them on a plate. Not without any suffering, but looking at the bloody history leading that forged western democracy, they got it easy.


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Gordon wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 3:14pm:
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 3:04pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:57pm:
Long term, the colonisation of Australia will GREATLY benefit Aboriginals.

Time they got over history and grasped the incredible opportunities available to them.



it does now gordy   some folks wont allow them to think about that though..

do you think any other country looks after the native inhabitants as we so??

I watched a report on Bangladesh yesterday   HORRIFIC... I do not see one aboriginal child doing what the children of that country HAVE to do.....

in 2018... it was is unbelievable children working in mines....living side by side with a railway..

its all they know....

its hard to get it out of my head to be honest....it was done for UNICEF.....I would like some of the leaders that do nothing but complain about this country  to sit and watch  maybe even go there   as I believe the smell was beyond belief....

they may come back with a different attitude that may do some good for our aboriginals...


Aboriginals do face adversity, that's a fact. Racism exists and many are stuck at the bottom of the socio-economic ladder, but every year these things improve and their lot is slowly getting better.

My argument that colonization is beneficial to them is based on the premise that a liberal western democracy is so far, the pinnacle of human civilisation.

To arrive at this point, the cultures that developed it bashed, bludgeoned and raped each other mercilessly for a thousand years. Aboriginals have basically had it handed to them on a plate. Not without any suffering, but looking at the bloody history leading that forged western democracy, they got it easy.





  they are not badly treated by the GOVT gordy and thats who they keep demanding more from....

govts have bent over backwards for a long time now to make up for the events of the past.. but nothing changes..

can we or a govt drag them from the outback?????>.

no we cant! it is their choice....

if I choose to live in a cave  then blame the govt for me getting sick  or sniffing glue..    would anyone feel sorry for me??...

we cant change anyone  they have to change themselves......and a lot of devious people  want to keep them living in the dark ages.,....living on charity for another 100 years... Angry Angry Angry
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Reply #25 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:34pm
 
watch this show gordy... I doubt we have ever had anything like this EVER happen in this country..

https://www.unicef.org.au/blog/news-and-insights/august-2018/the-photographer-sh...
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Loads of land Muslims run was owned by somebody else. I doubt this b itch would admit that.
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Reply #27 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:42pm
 
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:58pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:42pm:
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:32pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:12pm:
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 1:40pm:
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:51am:
oh NO  not more PITY ME speeches..

how can she be classed and aussie   when she refers to our history  as an Invasion  I take serious offence to that. Angry Angry Angry

who voted for this person??? Angry Angry




So what in our history would lead you to believe it wasn't colonised. WHat does Terra Nullius mean?



seriously!   COLONISED also means INVADED..

I didnt know that! Angry Angry



Stop becoming hysterical and start being logical.



so thats your answer... aussie mk11. Smiley

you wouldnt like me if I became Hysterical!



Well essentially what is the difference between colonising with no regard to the indigenous population and invading a country with no regard to the indigenous population.

ahhh the good old side step.. Grin Grin

yes seriously  mate thats what they did all those years ago..

the Aztecs disappeared entirely... an enormous amount of Africans were made slaves and transported far and wide....

so help me...the founders and settlers   didnt do every thing right no one disputes that... but we cant DO A THING ABOUT IT....

I do not see any other country!!!! whinge as much as this country does..... poo  Timor and Many countries in Sth America speak Portuguese or Spanish  what does that tell you???..
talk about a whingefest....

if it makes you feel any better I am sure our aboriginal chums will take your donation of any land you may think you own.... Angry Angry Angry

cus I dont own any   mine is on loan from the ACT govt  its all in the fine print....



How is that a side step, thats the actual question being posed.
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Loads of land Muslims run was owned by somebody else. I doubt this b itch would admit that.



How charming.
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Reply #29 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:54pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:43pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:37pm:
Loads of land Muslims run was owned by somebody else. I doubt this b itch would admit that.



How charming.

I hate people like her. She's a blow in and has no right to say those things. It's like somebody starting at a new workplace and then telling everybody how to do their job. I like her for one reason. She'll damage the Greens in the eyes of middle Australia.
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The rot has started

Once the muzzos get a hold, we is all screwed.

And a Sheila to boot

MY country is now officially completely stuffed

Pooftahs given the go ahead for disgusting pursuits
Muzzos in local councils and parliament
Women have the vote
No water, and greedy multinationals working to destroy what we have.
All of our land either given to worthless bludgers or sold to other countries.
Work drying up and slave wages for our young.
Screwed by medical funds
Screwed by incompetent public servants
LGBYTREDGGTRFDESDREGG Groups taking over with politically retarded morons
Universities taken over by the terminally sick and twisted.


Oh Australia, what hast though done?
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Reply #31 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 6:10pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:42pm:
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:58pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:42pm:
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:32pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:12pm:
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 1:40pm:
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:51am:
oh NO  not more PITY ME speeches..

how can she be classed and aussie   when she refers to our history  as an Invasion  I take serious offence to that. Angry Angry Angry

who voted for this person??? Angry Angry




So what in our history would lead you to believe it wasn't colonised. WHat does Terra Nullius mean?



seriously!   COLONISED also means INVADED..

I didnt know that! Angry Angry



Stop becoming hysterical and start being logical.



so thats your answer... aussie mk11. Smiley

you wouldnt like me if I became Hysterical!



Well essentially what is the difference between colonising with no regard to the indigenous population and invading a country with no regard to the indigenous population.

ahhh the good old side step.. Grin Grin

yes seriously  mate thats what they did all those years ago..

the Aztecs disappeared entirely... an enormous amount of Africans were made slaves and transported far and wide....

so help me...the founders and settlers   didnt do every thing right no one disputes that... but we cant DO A THING ABOUT IT....

I do not see any other country!!!! whinge as much as this country does..... poo  Timor and Many countries in Sth America speak Portuguese or Spanish  what does that tell you???..
talk about a whingefest....

if it makes you feel any better I am sure our aboriginal chums will take your donation of any land you may think you own.... Angry Angry Angry

cus I dont own any   mine is on loan from the ACT govt  its all in the fine print....



How is that a side step, thats the actual question being posed.



so you are not prepared to offer them your land... oh dear.. why did I expect that outcome?...

I wonder how much land our new Green Senator has??????....   and is she also NOT prepared to hand it back.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes..

all these Mosques are built on LAND....whats the betting they didnt pay for it either???
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:43pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:37pm:
Loads of land Muslims run was owned by somebody else. I doubt this b itch would admit that.



How charming.

I hate people like her. She's a blow in and has no right to say those things. It's like somebody starting at a new workplace and then telling everybody how to do their job. I like her for one reason. She'll damage the Greens in the eyes of middle Australia.




So why not just say that, rather than the abuse
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Reply #33 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 6:23pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 6:18pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:54pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:43pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:37pm:
Loads of land Muslims run was owned by somebody else. I doubt this b itch would admit that.



How charming.

I hate people like her. She's a blow in and has no right to say those things. It's like somebody starting at a new workplace and then telling everybody how to do their job. I like her for one reason. She'll damage the Greens in the eyes of middle Australia.




So why not just say that, rather than the abuse

Because I hate her guts already. I feel like Valkie. The country that I loved so much is going down the toilet.
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When I was young, i lived in Marrickville.
I could walk to school without fear of pedos
I could go over to the mates houses and come home after dark without fear.
My parents and I used to walk everywhere, we had little money, and no matter what the time, we never had a worry.
Our front door was open all the time, but never a worry.

As I reached my teens we all started going out and having fun
Never considered damaging anything
Never even thought about graffiti
We respected the elderly and the police

Into our 20s we enjoyed life raised our families, never considering safety, because we were all mates.

Then the muzzos and Vietnamese came
Worthless parasites, thieves, attack anyone for no reason.

Now the Vietnamese are terrified of the muzzos and the muzzos are killing, stealing, beating and creating a nightmare of my country
Then the tools in charge start bringing in darkies for Somalia,
That's all folks
The most worthless creatures on earth have arrived.

Australia still has a very small chance of survival
But our pollies will continue down the path of self destruction.

I'm glad I have lived 60 years and will only just begin to see the destruction of my country
But I feel sad for my children and grandchildren.

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Invasion!? Sounds familiar right? Since when did we Muslims have the right to point the finger when literally every Muslim country was established by conquests and invasions!?

https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1033656918370222080




Yes indeed. One only has to type in Pakistan and read about how it was built on invasion and war.

The Vedic Period (c. 1500 – c. 500 BCE) is postulated to have formed during the Indo-Aryan migration between 1500 BCE to 800 BCE. As Indo-Aryans migrated and settled into the Indus Valley, along with them came their distinctive religious traditions and practices which fused with local culture.[23] The Indo-Aryans religious beliefs and practices from the Bactria–Margiana Culture and the native Harappan Indus beliefs of the former Indus Valley Civilisation eventually gave rise to Vedic culture and tribes.[24] [note 3] The initial early Vedic culture was a tribal, pastoral society centered in the Indus Valley, of what is today Pakistan. During this period the Vedas, the oldest scriptures of Hinduism, were composed.[note 4]

Several early tribes and kingdoms arose during this period and
internecine
military conflicts between these various tribes was common; as described in the Rig Veda, which was being composed at this time, the most notable of such conflicts was the Battle of Ten Kings. This battle took place on the banks of the River Ravi in the 14th century BC (1300 BCE). The battle was fought between the Bharatas tribe and a confederation of ten tribes:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Pakistan

That's just part of the colorful history of Pakistan.

Definition of internecine. 1 : marked by slaughter : deadly; especially : mutually destructive. 2 : of, relating to, or involving conflict within a group. bitter internecine feuds.

Could it be that this muslim harridan comes from a line of feudal warlords who took what they wanted by wielding the sword.

She has failed the basic IQ test. Islam is a religion not a race.
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Reply #36 - Aug 28th, 2018 at 6:14am
 
cods wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 8:30am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 8:19am:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 8:04am:
Gordon wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:57am:
The whole mindset of the greens is, how can I make you as miserable as I am.


Just look at what the London Muslim Mayor has done to the city....

Rapes
Acid Attacks
murders
Hit and Runs
Mass Stabbings

and if you speak out about it (because they are being done by Muslims mainly) then you are a

RACIST!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Have those things only happened since a supposed muslim has been a mayor?

Spot



nothing supposed about the Lord Mayor of London..

he is a MUSLIM.

my daughter has just returned from a week in London....she was there two years ago....and she was shocked and not happy at the deterioration.. even in that short time... Cry Cry  its filling up with deadbeats  and the homeless.....lets not forget  its the Capital of the whole country......its what most see first....


Not sure what deadbeats are but homeless is a problem. Not a muslim one either. someone is doing something wrong just like australia since our homeless population is growing too.

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Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 6:18pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:54pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:43pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:37pm:
Loads of land Muslims run was owned by somebody else. I doubt this b itch would admit that.



How charming.

I hate people like her. She's a blow in and has no right to say those things. It's like somebody starting at a new workplace and then telling everybody how to do their job. I like her for one reason. She'll damage the Greens in the eyes of middle Australia.




So why not just say that, rather than the abuse

Because I hate her guts already. I feel like Valkie. The country that I loved so much is going down the toilet.




Let me give you a clue mate, thats history. Societies evolve and change. Plus you're experiencing a known phenomenon whereby you look upon the past as better than it actually was.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:40am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 6:18pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:54pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:43pm:
[quote author=Mr_Hammer link=1535320082/26#26 date=1535355429]Loads of land Muslims run was owned by somebody else. I doubt this b itch would admit that.



How charming.

I hate people like her. She's a blow in and has no right to say those things. It's like somebody starting at a new workplace and then telling everybody how to do their job. I like her for one reason. She'll damage the Greens in the eyes of middle Australia.




So why not just say that, rather than the abuse

Because I hate her guts already. I feel like Valkie. The country that I loved so much is going down the toilet.




Let me give you a clue mate, thats history. Societies evolve and change. Plus you're experiencing a known phenomenon whereby you look upon the past as better than it actually was. [/quote]


rubbish.... I look on the past as lets not go down that path again..

learn from others experience.. I do not think we should constantly pay for past generations mistakes...


have you handed over your land yet Bojack?..

just to make the past correct in your mind that is????........lead by example. Smiley
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cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:47am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:40am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 6:18pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:54pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:43pm:
[quote author=Mr_Hammer link=1535320082/26#26 date=1535355429]Loads of land Muslims run was owned by somebody else. I doubt this b itch would admit that.



How charming.

I hate people like her. She's a blow in and has no right to say those things. It's like somebody starting at a new workplace and then telling everybody how to do their job. I like her for one reason. She'll damage the Greens in the eyes of middle Australia.




So why not just say that, rather than the abuse

Because I hate her guts already. I feel like Valkie. The country that I loved so much is going down the toilet.




Let me give you a clue mate, thats history. Societies evolve and change. Plus you're experiencing a known phenomenon whereby you look upon the past as better than it actually was. [/quote]


rubbish.... I look on the past as lets not go down that path again..

learn from others experience.. I do not think we should constantly pay for past generations mistakes...


have you handed over your land yet Bojack?..

just to make the past correct in your mind that is????........lead by example. Smiley




I'm talking to Mr Hammer, not you you hysterical halfwit.
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH    he cant answer...


got it bojack... say that again and I report you for personal abuse..

now about that land you own????
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cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:55am:
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH    he cant answer...


got it bojack... say that again and I report you for personal abuse..

now about that land you own????



Its not slander if its true.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 6:18pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:54pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:43pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:37pm:
Loads of land Muslims run was owned by somebody else. I doubt this b itch would admit that.



How charming.

I hate people like her. She's a blow in and has no right to say those things. It's like somebody starting at a new workplace and then telling everybody how to do their job. I like her for one reason. She'll damage the Greens in the eyes of middle Australia.




So why not just say that, rather than the abuse

Because I hate her guts already. I feel like Valkie. The country that I loved so much is going down the toilet.


Because of people like you and Valkie.

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cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:55am:
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH    he cant answer...


got it bojack... say that again and I report you for personal abuse..

now about that land you own????



Its not slander if its true.



hysterical!!!!   because I ask when are you handing over the land you claim was STOLEN... Smiley Smiley

a perfectly reasonable question under the circumstances..... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

you believe we are all guilty because of our history.. Roll Eyes

and presumably we  will always be guilty until we all hand our LAND BACK>..

someone has to lead the way pet!
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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 10:14am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 6:18pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:54pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:43pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:37pm:
Loads of land Muslims run was owned by somebody else. I doubt this b itch would admit that.



How charming.

I hate people like her. She's a blow in and has no right to say those things. It's like somebody starting at a new workplace and then telling everybody how to do their job. I like her for one reason. She'll damage the Greens in the eyes of middle Australia.




So why not just say that, rather than the abuse

Because I hate her guts already. I feel like Valkie. The country that I loved so much is going down the toilet.


Because of people like you and Valkie.




and others    Smiley Smiley Smiley

who will remain nameless... Cheesy
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 10:04am:
cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:55am:
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH    he cant answer...


got it bojack... say that again and I report you for personal abuse..

now about that land you own????



Its not slander if its true.



hysterical!!!!   because I ask when are you handing over the land you claim was STOLEN... Smiley Smiley

a perfectly reasonable question under the circumstances..... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

you believe we are all guilty because of our history.. Roll Eyes

and presumably we  will always be guilty until we all hand our LAND BACK>..

someone has to lead the way pet!



I'm not answering your question until you answer mine. I asked first. And putting four exclamation marks is hysterical


SEE!!!!
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what was the question again?.....strewth I thought aussie was the only one.. Sad Sad
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what was the question again?.....strewth I thought aussie was the only one.. Sad Sad



What was the difference between colonising and invading when you don't acknowledge the presence or rights of the inhabitants already there
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what was the question again?.....strewth I thought aussie was the only one.. Sad Sad



What was the difference between colonising and invading when you don't acknowledge the presence or rights of the inhabitants already there

what rights aren't being acknowledged.
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what was the question again?.....strewth I thought aussie was the only one.. Sad Sad



What was the difference between colonising and invading when you don't acknowledge the presence or rights of the inhabitants already there

what rights aren't being acknowledged.



Justice Richard Blackburn ruled that Australia had been considered "desert and uncultivated" (a term which included territory in which resided "uncivilized inhabitants in a primitive state of society") before European settlement, and therefore, by the law that applied at the time, open to be claimed by right of occupancy, and that there was no such thing as native title in Australian law.


Pretty much all of them
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what was the question again?.....strewth I thought aussie was the only one.. Sad Sad



What was the difference between colonising and invading when you don't acknowledge the presence or rights of the inhabitants already there


invasion... POLAND>FRANCE.

On September 1, 1939, the German army under Adolf Hitler launched an invasion of Poland that triggered the start of World War II (though by 1939 Japan and China were already at war). The battle for Poland only lasted about a month before a Nazi victory. But the invasion plunged the world into a war that would continue for almost six years and claim the lives of tens of millions of people.


colonisation..

I do not think Cpt Cooks discovery and Landing  was any more violent or different to the Pilgrim Fathers landing at Plymouth Massachusetts..


mistakes  I am sure  many were made....land had no titles in those days  and as I wasnt privy to what happened back then... I cant say what was right and what was wrong...

now  when are you handing over the land you have that YOU prefer to claim was STOLEN..

I am sure we can arrange a proper ceremony...

so you will go down in the history books..
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Rubbish.



wait....

  you havent heard if bo is going to hand back all that land he feels guilty about owning....

lets be fair dinkum...

he will be the first to hand back the title to his land .. Smiley Smiley you believe that dont you?

  that will start an avalanche of all the others that believe we will never correct history  until

whitey owns nothing and aboriginals own everything...
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what was the question again?.....strewth I thought aussie was the only one.. Sad Sad



What was the difference between colonising and invading when you don't acknowledge the presence or rights of the inhabitants already there


invasion... POLAND>FRANCE.

On September 1, 1939, the German army under Adolf Hitler launched an invasion of Poland that triggered the start of World War II (though by 1939 Japan and China were already at war). The battle for Poland only lasted about a month before a Nazi victory. But the invasion plunged the world into a war that would continue for almost six years and claim the lives of tens of millions of people.


colonisation..

I do not think Cpt Cooks discovery and Landing  was any more violent or different to the Pilgrim Fathers landing at Plymouth Massachusetts..


mistakes  I am sure  many were made....land had no titles in those days  and as I wasnt privy to what happened back then... I cant say what was right and what was wrong...

now  when are you handing over the land you have that YOU prefer to claim was STOLEN..

I am sure we can arrange a proper ceremony...

so you will go down in the history books..




So the difference is level of violence? Many Aboriginals were shot. It may not have been declared war but the actual taking over of land without regard to the original inhabitants is much the same.  but in answer to your question. I'm happy to give back my land through native title.
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  that will start an avalanche of all the others that believe we will never correct history  until

whitey owns nothing and aboriginals own everything...




And this is what I mean by hysterics. This is not what is suggested here.
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The only thing missing in her speech was "Final Solution" - final solution for the invaders
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The only thing missing in her speech was "Final Solution" - final solution for the invaders




OK, maybe cods wasn't being that hysterical. In comparison.
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Notice that she said "I'm not going back to where I came from". Well, that only makes her one of the invaders
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I'm happy to give back my land through native title.


Some extracts from:

Native Title recognises that Aboriginal people have rights and interests in their lands and waters through their traditional laws and customs; Native title recognises that Indigenous people have traditional rights to speak for country; but native title does not provide Indigenous people with ownership of the land or stop development like land rights under the Aboriginal Land Rights Act does

Native title is not a new type of land grant but a common law right that pre-dates the European settlement of Australia.

The Mabo judgment found that a native title to land existed in 1788 and may continue to exist provided it has not been extinguished by subsequent acts of government and provided Indigenous groups continue to observe their traditional laws and customs.

What rights do you get from native title?

Many native title claims are for shared rights to the land with other people who also have an interest in the land. Recognition of native title may give Indigenous people the right to hold ceremony, gather bush tucker or have a say on what development can happen on the land. Examples of native title rights:


So broadly speaking Bojack you're not gong to give anything back are you?

Because:

1/. Native title does not provide Indigenous people with ownership of the land

2/. Native title may have been extinguished in the past by acts of government and indigenous people must show continuous use of the land

3/. Native title would probably best be described as a shared interest in the land not ownership.

Why go on about it if you're not fair dinkum?
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If the muslim senator is so worried about treatment of black people why doesn't she  get on her high horse about how the muslims murdered millions of black males (children through to adult) with the trauma caused by total castration (eunuchs)?

It's estimated that up to 80% of the millions of black males butchered in this way died from the horrific total amputation of the penis and scrotum.

Why doesn't she complain about the millions of part black infants murdered by muslims who killed the babies of their black concubines?

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Bojack Horseman Reply #54 - Today at 1:32pm

Quote:
I'm happy to give back my land through native title.


Some extracts from:

Native Title recognises that Aboriginal people have rights and interests in their lands and waters through their traditional laws and customs; Native title recognises that Indigenous people have traditional rights to speak for country; but native title does not provide Indigenous people with ownership of the land or stop development like land rights under the Aboriginal Land Rights Act does

Native title is not a new type of land grant but a common law right that pre-dates the European settlement of Australia.

The Mabo judgment found that a native title to land existed in 1788 and may continue to exist provided it has not been extinguished by subsequent acts of government and provided Indigenous groups continue to observe their traditional laws and customs.

What rights do you get from native title?

Many native title claims are for shared rights to the land with other people who also have an interest in the land. Recognition of native title may give Indigenous people the right to hold ceremony, gather bush tucker or have a say on what development can happen on the land. Examples of native title rights:


So broadly speaking Bojack you're not gong to give anything back are you?

Because:

1/. Native title does not provide Indigenous people with ownership of the land

2/. Native title may have been extinguished in the past by acts of government and indigenous people must show continuous use of the land

3/. Native title would probably best be described as a shared interest in the land not ownership.

Why go on about it if you're not fair dinkum?



Then why is the 'government' handing Aboriginals the tools to create no-go areas for anyone else - if they don't actually own the land?  Ayers Rock ... Mt Warning.. just a couple of prime spots  and big attractions... funny how that works...

Say, bro - is dat a Whitey Proof Fence yo' got dere?  No 'scrimination if you jes' keep Whartey out!
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moses wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 2:04pm:
Bojack Horseman Reply #54 - Today at 1:32pm

Quote:
I'm happy to give back my land through native title.


Some extracts from:

Native Title recognises that Aboriginal people have rights and interests in their lands and waters through their traditional laws and customs; Native title recognises that Indigenous people have traditional rights to speak for country; but native title does not provide Indigenous people with ownership of the land or stop development like land rights under the Aboriginal Land Rights Act does

Native title is not a new type of land grant but a common law right that pre-dates the European settlement of Australia.

The Mabo judgment found that a native title to land existed in 1788 and may continue to exist provided it has not been extinguished by subsequent acts of government and provided Indigenous groups continue to observe their traditional laws and customs.

What rights do you get from native title?

Many native title claims are for shared rights to the land with other people who also have an interest in the land. Recognition of native title may give Indigenous people the right to hold ceremony, gather bush tucker or have a say on what development can happen on the land. Examples of native title rights:


So broadly speaking Bojack you're not gong to give anything back are you?

Because:

1/. Native title does not provide Indigenous people with ownership of the land

2/. Native title may have been extinguished in the past by acts of government and indigenous people must show continuous use of the land

3/. Native title would probably best be described as a shared interest in the land not ownership.

Why go on about it if you're not fair dinkum?



Then why is the 'government' handing Aboriginals the tools to create no-go areas for anyone else - if they don't actually own the land?  Ayers Rock ... Mt Warning.. just a couple of prime spots  and big attractions... funny how that works...

Say, bro - is dat a Whitey Proof Fence yo' got dere?  No 'scrimination if you jes' keep Whartey out!


Yep.
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The only thing missing in her speech was "Final Solution" - final solution for the invaders


Better backtrack on that statement B.

Aborigines: The First Out of Africa, the First in Asia and Australia


New research in the journal Science presents a number of firsts for Aboriginal Australians.

The first genome analysis of an Aborigine reveals that these early Australians took part in the first human migration out of Africa. They were the first to arrive in Asia some 70,000 years ago, roaming the area at least 24,000 years before the ancestors of present-day Europeans and Asians. They were also the first to live in Australia, according to DNA results of a 90-year-old hair sample of a young man that link Aborigines to the first inhabitants of this part of the world about 50,000 years ago.

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/food/main%20rasmussen2HR.jpg

Seems like the first to 'invade' this big land known as Australia were Aborigines. Facts sure do weaken the 'white invasion' myth.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 1:32pm:
cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 1:24pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 12:16pm:
cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 12:04pm:
what was the question again?.....strewth I thought aussie was the only one.. Sad Sad



What was the difference between colonising and invading when you don't acknowledge the presence or rights of the inhabitants already there


invasion... POLAND>FRANCE.

On September 1, 1939, the German army under Adolf Hitler launched an invasion of Poland that triggered the start of World War II (though by 1939 Japan and China were already at war). The battle for Poland only lasted about a month before a Nazi victory. But the invasion plunged the world into a war that would continue for almost six years and claim the lives of tens of millions of people.


colonisation..

I do not think Cpt Cooks discovery and Landing  was any more violent or different to the Pilgrim Fathers landing at Plymouth Massachusetts..


mistakes  I am sure  many were made....land had no titles in those days  and as I wasnt privy to what happened back then... I cant say what was right and what was wrong...

now  when are you handing over the land you have that YOU prefer to claim was STOLEN..

I am sure we can arrange a proper ceremony...

so you will go down in the history books..




So the difference is level of violence? Many Aboriginals were shot. It may not have been declared war but the actual taking over of land without regard to the original inhabitants is much the same.  but in answer to your question. I'm happy to give back my land through native title.



seriously   but  never mind..

I could ask how many did Capt Cook kill..but I cant be bothered..

as for you handing over your land..

though native title.....and if they want your holdings on that land....hilarious....they will ask you to leave  or charge you to live there...... or camp in your lounge room...maybe light a fire or two...

ooops btw do you think that will satisfy them? or do you think they will want more... as invasions is a word that will never go away....once you accept  that is what it was..
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Another Green lunatic, just what we need... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



we have seen the outcome of agreeing  there was a STOLEN GENERATION....the word stolen  being the PRIME purpose of the agitation....

well I hardly call it a success....seeing as more and more aboriginal children are suffering...but I am sure bojack  finds that acceptable.....

now we have the STOLEN LAND issue..... lets face it no one   and I mean NO ONE can take it with them..

therefore the land belongs to NO ONE..

the quicker we all agree on that the quicker we may find a way to live together happily ..
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there was no STOLEN and it wasn't a GENERATION...

more lies from the PC Left and their victimhood victims

clearly since even aboriginals say they don't own the land they "belong" land then they never owned it in any sense legal or otherwise.
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there was no STOLEN and it wasn't a GENERATION...

more lies from the PC Left and their victimhood victims




Well they weren't returned and it wasn't just one, so what do we call it.
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Grendel wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 2:33pm:
Another Green lunatic, just what we need... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



we have seen the outcome of agreeing  there was a STOLEN GENERATION....the word stolen  being the PRIME purpose of the agitation....

well I hardly call it a success....seeing as more and more aboriginal children are suffering...but I am sure bojack  finds that acceptable.....

now we have the STOLEN LAND issue..... lets face it no one   and I mean NO ONE can take it with them..

therefore the land belongs to NO ONE..

the quicker we all agree on that the quicker we may find a way to live together happily ..



Cheers for that stupidity. Where did I say I suggest that people suffer.
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there was no STOLEN and it wasn't a GENERATION...

more lies from the PC Left and their victimhood victims

clearly since even aboriginals say they don't own the land they "belong" land then they never owned it in any sense legal or otherwise.


Oh, they were stolen alright.

No surprise that you're defending such behaviour, though.

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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:46am:
cods wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:10am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 2:33pm:
Another Green lunatic, just what we need... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



we have seen the outcome of agreeing  there was a STOLEN GENERATION....the word stolen  being the PRIME purpose of the agitation....

well I hardly call it a success....seeing as more and more aboriginal children are suffering...but I am sure bojack  finds that acceptable.....

now we have the STOLEN LAND issue..... lets face it no one   and I mean NO ONE can take it with them..

therefore the land belongs to NO ONE..

the quicker we all agree on that the quicker we may find a way to live together happily ..



Cheers for that stupidity. Where did I say I suggest that people suffer.



so you will be taking any land   you havent dedicated to MABO with you when you leave us... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


as you seem to suggest   its a stoooopid idea....to think you CANT take it with you.. Sad Sad

you sure your not a clone of aussie?>...
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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:48am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:43am:
there was no STOLEN and it wasn't a GENERATION...

more lies from the PC Left and their victimhood victims

clearly since even aboriginals say they don't own the land they "belong" land then they never owned it in any sense legal or otherwise.


Oh, they were stolen alright.

No surprise that you're defending such behaviour, though.




I am sure a lot was wrong in those times  and I hate anyone making it a political football...

my point was has it helped our friends  that we stopped. STEALING THE CHILDREN ?

what I read now is n o one is game to remove an aboriginal child  for a very bad situation....

is that a good thing do you think?....

what is the answer?  do you have one?
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cods wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:48am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:43am:
there was no STOLEN and it wasn't a GENERATION...

more lies from the PC Left and their victimhood victims

clearly since even aboriginals say they don't own the land they "belong" land then they never owned it in any sense legal or otherwise.


Oh, they were stolen alright.

No surprise that you're defending such behaviour, though.




I am sure a lot was wrong in those times  and I hate anyone making it a political football...

my point was has it helped our friends  that we stopped. STEALING THE CHILDREN ?

what I read now is n o one is game to remove an aboriginal child  for a very bad situation....

is that a good thing do you think?....

what is the answer?  do you have one?


I'm not sure what you read is true.

"It took another 10 years after the report just to get a formal government apology to the stolen generations (the subject of one of the recommendations).

"As much as prime minister Kevin Rudd’s words were eloquent, they were ultimately meaningless; the number of Aboriginal children in out-of-home care has more than doubled since his apology.

"That brings us to where we are now: with well over 17,000 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children currently removed from their homes by statutory authorities.

"Modelling by the Family Matters campaign shows that this number will more than triple by 2036 if we keep doing things the same way."


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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:12am:
cods wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:48am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:43am:
there was no STOLEN and it wasn't a GENERATION...

more lies from the PC Left and their victimhood victims

clearly since even aboriginals say they don't own the land they "belong" land then they never owned it in any sense legal or otherwise.


Oh, they were stolen alright.

No surprise that you're defending such behaviour, though.




I am sure a lot was wrong in those times  and I hate anyone making it a political football...

my point was has it helped our friends  that we stopped. STEALING THE CHILDREN ?

what I read now is n o one is game to remove an aboriginal child  for a very bad situation....

is that a good thing do you think?....

what is the answer?  do you have one?


I'm not sure what you read is true.

"It took another 10 years after the report just to get a formal government apology to the stolen generations (the subject of one of the recommendations).

"As much as prime minister Kevin Rudd’s words were eloquent, they were ultimately meaningless; the number of Aboriginal children in out-of-home care has more than doubled since his apology.

"That brings us to where we are now: with well over 17,000 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children currently removed from their homes by statutory authorities.

"Modelling by the Family Matters campaign shows that this number will more than triple by 2036 if we keep doing things the same way."


Removing Aboriginal children from their families has failed. There is another way

What's the other way?
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Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:51am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:12am:
cods wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:48am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:43am:
there was no STOLEN and it wasn't a GENERATION...

more lies from the PC Left and their victimhood victims

clearly since even aboriginals say they don't own the land they "belong" land then they never owned it in any sense legal or otherwise.


Oh, they were stolen alright.

No surprise that you're defending such behaviour, though.




I am sure a lot was wrong in those times  and I hate anyone making it a political football...

my point was has it helped our friends  that we stopped. STEALING THE CHILDREN ?

what I read now is n o one is game to remove an aboriginal child  for a very bad situation....

is that a good thing do you think?....

what is the answer?  do you have one?


I'm not sure what you read is true.

"It took another 10 years after the report just to get a formal government apology to the stolen generations (the subject of one of the recommendations).

"As much as prime minister Kevin Rudd’s words were eloquent, they were ultimately meaningless; the number of Aboriginal children in out-of-home care has more than doubled since his apology.

"That brings us to where we are now: with well over 17,000 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children currently removed from their homes by statutory authorities.

"Modelling by the Family Matters campaign shows that this number will more than triple by 2036 if we keep doing things the same way."


Removing Aboriginal children from their families has failed. There is another way

What's the other way?


Read the article.

He outlined a four point plan.

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cods wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:02am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:46am:
cods wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:10am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 2:33pm:
Another Green lunatic, just what we need... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



we have seen the outcome of agreeing  there was a STOLEN GENERATION....the word stolen  being the PRIME purpose of the agitation....

well I hardly call it a success....seeing as more and more aboriginal children are suffering...but I am sure bojack  finds that acceptable.....

now we have the STOLEN LAND issue..... lets face it no one   and I mean NO ONE can take it with them..

therefore the land belongs to NO ONE..

the quicker we all agree on that the quicker we may find a way to live together happily ..



Cheers for that stupidity. Where did I say I suggest that people suffer.



so you will be taking any land   you havent dedicated to MABO with you when you leave us... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


as you seem to suggest   its a stoooopid idea....to think you CANT take it with you.. Sad Sad

you sure your not a clone of aussie?>...



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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:58am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:51am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:12am:
cods wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:48am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:43am:
there was no STOLEN and it wasn't a GENERATION...

more lies from the PC Left and their victimhood victims

clearly since even aboriginals say they don't own the land they "belong" land then they never owned it in any sense legal or otherwise.


Oh, they were stolen alright.

No surprise that you're defending such behaviour, though.




I am sure a lot was wrong in those times  and I hate anyone making it a political football...

my point was has it helped our friends  that we stopped. STEALING THE CHILDREN ?

what I read now is n o one is game to remove an aboriginal child  for a very bad situation....

is that a good thing do you think?....

what is the answer?  do you have one?


I'm not sure what you read is true.

"It took another 10 years after the report just to get a formal government apology to the stolen generations (the subject of one of the recommendations).

"As much as prime minister Kevin Rudd’s words were eloquent, they were ultimately meaningless; the number of Aboriginal children in out-of-home care has more than doubled since his apology.

"That brings us to where we are now: with well over 17,000 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children currently removed from their homes by statutory authorities.

"Modelling by the Family Matters campaign shows that this number will more than triple by 2036 if we keep doing things the same way."


Removing Aboriginal children from their families has failed. There is another way

What's the other way?


Read the article.

He outlined a four point plan.


All families enjoy access to quality, culturally safe, universal and targeted services necessary for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children to thrive;
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people and organisations participate in and have control over decisions that affect their children;
Law, policy and practice in child and family welfare are culturally safe and responsive;
Governments and services are accountable to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.




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Reply #79 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 12:07pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 11:56am:
All families enjoy access to quality, culturally safe, universal and targeted services necessary for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children to thrive;

So massive expenditure is required on infrastructure to ensure that every community everywhere receives all those things?  What happens to the children in abusive etc homes in the meantime?


Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people and organisations participate in and have control over decisions that affect their children;

Depends on what those 'decisions' etc create as an environment for those children.  Is he suggesting carte blanche, even in case of extreme neglect and blatant abuse?


Law, policy and practice in child and family welfare are culturally safe and responsive;
Governments and services are accountable to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.

Bit difficult to actually see what that first part means in the context of 17,000 children removed from abusive/neglectful/ sexually dangerous homes in which the likelihood is they will follow the same path in their future, including crime and prison for many.

How precisely would governments and services be accountable to ATSI people?




but that's a load of claptrap .


Yes - it is a load of claptrap given the realities, including that 17,000 children have been removed since 'the apology' due to neglect, abuse, sexual exploitation, danger from drug and alcohol abuse, entrenched control of communities by essentially criminal elements using drugs as a tool and securing such things as sexual favours from young girls/boys, the continuing high infant mortality rate in some areas, entrenched criminality as a way of life for many... I'm sure there's more.

Which is preferable?  Allow total sovereignty to a failed social group or seek to salvage a few innocents from the train wreck?

I know - let's give ATSI peoples total sovereignty as a separate nation within a nation, and just let them clash up against the rest of Australia.... separate but equal..... and fair game on both sides to miscreants, eh ... just like South Africa.
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Reply #80 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 12:14pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 12:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 11:56am:
All families enjoy access to quality, culturally safe, universal and targeted services necessary for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children to thrive;

So massive expenditure is required on infrastructure to ensure that every community everywhere receives all those things?  What happens to the children in abusive etc homes in the meantime?


Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people and organisations participate in and have control over decisions that affect their children;

Depends on what those 'decisions' etc create as an environment for those children.  Is he suggesting carte blanche, even in case of extreme neglect and blatant abuse?


Law, policy and practice in child and family welfare are culturally safe and responsive;
Governments and services are accountable to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.

Bit difficult to actually see what that first part means in the context of 17,000 children removed from abusive/neglectful/ sexually dangerous homes in which the likelihood is they will follow the same path in their future, including crime and prison for many.

How precisely would governments and services be accountable to ATSI people?




but that's a load of claptrap .


Yes - it is a load of claptrap given the realities, including that 17,000 children have been removed since 'the apology' due to neglect, abuse, sexual exploitation, danger from drug and alcohol abuse, entrenched control of communities by essentially criminal elements using drugs as a tool and securing such things as sexual favours from young girls/boys, the continuing high infant mortality rate in some areas, entrenched criminality as a way of life for many... I'm sure there's more.

Which is preferable?  Allow total sovereignty to a failed social group or seek to salvage a few innocents from the train wreck?

I know - let's give ATSI peoples total sovereignty as a separate nation within a nation, and just let them clash up against the rest of Australia.... separate but equal..... and fair game on both sides to miscreants, eh ... just like South Africa.

And I want to know how this idiot proposes we bring modern services to communities in the middle of nowhere. Even teachers don't last long out there because of the hostility and lawlessness.
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Reply #81 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 12:19pm
 
Don't tell me I have to recount all this again.  Answer is obviously, 'Yes', or the poorly educated might persuade fools re: the stolen generation.  After all, it's been a long, long time since the education system taught anything resembling truth in the matter

How many of you, and particularly Greggy, have spoken with older generation Aborigines?  And by that, I mean, before the ringlet-mob rewrote Australian history as a means of sowing divisions simultaneous with giving themselves highly lucrative 'work' … for life.  No short hours or contract for them, with their failed but rescued-by-mates university attempts? 

My guess would be the most vocal about the 'stolen' generations know f'all about the matter other than what they've sucked from pinko manifestos

So we have my years spent in the real Aussie bush, alongside actual Aborigines, children and adults.  And we have my well-known-in-her-day Aborigine neighbour, herself a recognised and quite informed Aboriginal Elder, in addition to being very grateful for the fact she was, allegedly, 'stolen'

Unsolicited, she opined on numerous occasions about the state of Aborigines and her frank disgust with most of them, including her own children, grandchildren and of course, great-grandchildren

' A lazy, good-for-nothing, useless bunch on the take' was her opinion

And when it came to being 'stolen', she and some of her siblings, she let anyone within earshot know just how bloody grateful she was to have been 'stolen' -- grateful at the time to the point she worshipped her 'kidnappers', and grateful life-long she'd been removed from her supposed 'family'

It's a shame my Aborigine neighbour wasn't provided a podium, because had she been, she would have set the record straight and knocked the ringlet-mob for six

Then we have an old lecturer who said without equivocation that as recently as the mid 1960s, it was taught by Sydney university that the 'more white admixture enjoyed by Aborigines, the more they were able to be educated, socialised and rendered employable'.  And anyone whose spent time with Aborigines is forced to recognise the truth in this

Meanwhile, Aborigines have been actively encouraged -- and this agenda continues -- to  blame whitey for their many ills and develop ever-increasing chips on their shoulders whilst milking whitey a whiter shade of pale

A new stolen-generation is urgently required or Aborigines will continue their sad and sorry way

Frankly, Australia cannot afford Aborigines

Failing a new and concerted stolen-generation, government should allocate a large parcel of land in the centre of the country and require Aborigines to live there and fend for themselves.  Would be up to them, then, to decide or fight over whether or not they want to live traditional-style or develop for themselves  industry, towns, infrastructure, etc

In other words, time for Aborigines, particularly the mouthy almost-white 'Aborigine' whiners who drive and wreck late model vehicles and live on the fat of the land as 'representatives' etc., to put up or shut up
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Reply #82 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 12:19pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 12:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 11:56am:
All families enjoy access to quality, culturally safe, universal and targeted services necessary for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children to thrive;

So massive expenditure is required on infrastructure to ensure that every community everywhere receives all those things?  What happens to the children in abusive etc homes in the meantime?


Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people and organisations participate in and have control over decisions that affect their children;

Depends on what those 'decisions' etc create as an environment for those children.  Is he suggesting carte blanche, even in case of extreme neglect and blatant abuse?


Law, policy and practice in child and family welfare are culturally safe and responsive;
Governments and services are accountable to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.

Bit difficult to actually see what that first part means in the context of 17,000 children removed from abusive/neglectful/ sexually dangerous homes in which the likelihood is they will follow the same path in their future, including crime and prison for many.

How precisely would governments and services be accountable to ATSI people?




but that's a load of claptrap .


Yes - it is a load of claptrap given the realities, including that 17,000 children have been removed since 'the apology' due to neglect, abuse, sexual exploitation, danger from drug and alcohol abuse, entrenched control of communities by essentially criminal elements using drugs as a tool and securing such things as sexual favours from young girls/boys, the continuing high infant mortality rate in some areas, entrenched criminality as a way of life for many... I'm sure there's more.

Which is preferable?  Allow total sovereignty to a failed social group or seek to salvage a few innocents from the train wreck?

I know - let's give ATSI peoples total sovereignty as a separate nation within a nation, and just let them clash up against the rest of Australia.... separate but equal..... and fair game on both sides to miscreants, eh ... just like South Africa.

And I want to know how this idiot proposes we bring modern services to communities in the middle of nowhere. Even teachers don't last long out there because of the hostility and lawlessness.


Exactly - clinics, doctors, nurses, everything else in every community.  Where's the money coming from?

All this nonsense is ancient history now - time to move into the twenty first century and get on with getting ahead on your own merits.  I'm amazed that there are still people who believe in all this rubbish,and the governments continue to kow-tow to every screeching group that demands something based on some myth of past oppression.

Let them all 'do things their way' - ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT ALL THE TRAPPINGS OF THE EVIL WHITE MAN'S CIVILISATION.

Bet there wouldn't be too many takers....

Tonight on Survivor Outback - we place a group of Aboriginals in an isolated waterless plain, with only their native instruments... then we place on a nearby waterless plain a group of White People with all the trappings of civilisation..... which will survive better?

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Reply #83 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 12:22pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 12:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 12:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 11:56am:
All families enjoy access to quality, culturally safe, universal and targeted services necessary for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children to thrive;

So massive expenditure is required on infrastructure to ensure that every community everywhere receives all those things?  What happens to the children in abusive etc homes in the meantime?


Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people and organisations participate in and have control over decisions that affect their children;

Depends on what those 'decisions' etc create as an environment for those children.  Is he suggesting carte blanche, even in case of extreme neglect and blatant abuse?


Law, policy and practice in child and family welfare are culturally safe and responsive;
Governments and services are accountable to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.

Bit difficult to actually see what that first part means in the context of 17,000 children removed from abusive/neglectful/ sexually dangerous homes in which the likelihood is they will follow the same path in their future, including crime and prison for many.

How precisely would governments and services be accountable to ATSI people?




but that's a load of claptrap .


Yes - it is a load of claptrap given the realities, including that 17,000 children have been removed since 'the apology' due to neglect, abuse, sexual exploitation, danger from drug and alcohol abuse, entrenched control of communities by essentially criminal elements using drugs as a tool and securing such things as sexual favours from young girls/boys, the continuing high infant mortality rate in some areas, entrenched criminality as a way of life for many... I'm sure there's more.

Which is preferable?  Allow total sovereignty to a failed social group or seek to salvage a few innocents from the train wreck?

I know - let's give ATSI peoples total sovereignty as a separate nation within a nation, and just let them clash up against the rest of Australia.... separate but equal..... and fair game on both sides to miscreants, eh ... just like South Africa.

And I want to know how this idiot proposes we bring modern services to communities in the middle of nowhere. Even teachers don't last long out there because of the hostility and lawlessness.


Exactly - clinics, doctors, nurses, everything else in every community.  Where's the money coming from?

All this nonsense is ancient history now - time to move into the twenty first century and get on with getting ahead on your own merits.  I'm amazed that there are still people who believe in all this rubbish,and the governments continue to kow-tow to every screeching group that demands something based on some myth of past oppression.

Let them all 'do things their way' - ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT ALL THE TRAPPINGS OF THE EVIL WHITE MAN'S CIVILISATION.

Bet there wouldn't be too many takers....

I agree with everything you say Grappler.There's loads of aboriginal communities getting multiple millions of dollars from mining royalties. You'd think they could splash a little money around to help their fellow aborigines.
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Reply #84 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 12:30pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 12:22pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 12:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 12:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 11:56am:
All families enjoy access to quality, culturally safe, universal and targeted services necessary for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children to thrive;

So massive expenditure is required on infrastructure to ensure that every community everywhere receives all those things?  What happens to the children in abusive etc homes in the meantime?


Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people and organisations participate in and have control over decisions that affect their children;

Depends on what those 'decisions' etc create as an environment for those children.  Is he suggesting carte blanche, even in case of extreme neglect and blatant abuse?


Law, policy and practice in child and family welfare are culturally safe and responsive;
Governments and services are accountable to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.

Bit difficult to actually see what that first part means in the context of 17,000 children removed from abusive/neglectful/ sexually dangerous homes in which the likelihood is they will follow the same path in their future, including crime and prison for many.

How precisely would governments and services be accountable to ATSI people?




but that's a load of claptrap .


Yes - it is a load of claptrap given the realities, including that 17,000 children have been removed since 'the apology' due to neglect, abuse, sexual exploitation, danger from drug and alcohol abuse, entrenched control of communities by essentially criminal elements using drugs as a tool and securing such things as sexual favours from young girls/boys, the continuing high infant mortality rate in some areas, entrenched criminality as a way of life for many... I'm sure there's more.

Which is preferable?  Allow total sovereignty to a failed social group or seek to salvage a few innocents from the train wreck?

I know - let's give ATSI peoples total sovereignty as a separate nation within a nation, and just let them clash up against the rest of Australia.... separate but equal..... and fair game on both sides to miscreants, eh ... just like South Africa.

And I want to know how this idiot proposes we bring modern services to communities in the middle of nowhere. Even teachers don't last long out there because of the hostility and lawlessness.


Exactly - clinics, doctors, nurses, everything else in every community.  Where's the money coming from?

All this nonsense is ancient history now - time to move into the twenty first century and get on with getting ahead on your own merits.  I'm amazed that there are still people who believe in all this rubbish,and the governments continue to kow-tow to every screeching group that demands something based on some myth of past oppression.

Let them all 'do things their way' - ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT ALL THE TRAPPINGS OF THE EVIL WHITE MAN'S CIVILISATION.

Bet there wouldn't be too many takers....

I agree with everything you say Grappler.There's loads of aboriginal communities getting multiple millions of dollars from mining royalties. You'd think they could splash a little money around to help their fellow aborigines.



Yes constantly handed the wherewithal to support themselves yet always needing more and more - even Jervis Bay handed over to the local Aboriginals, is just a cash cow for that group - pay as you enter.  Many other lush and desirable parts of Australia have been handed over, yet the majority still rely totally on handouts and carry on as if they've had everything taken away from them.
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Reply #85 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 12:35pm
 
Bet she believes in the evil white man's wage gap, the oppression of Muslims here, poor me gays etc, and on endlessly into the twilight of civilisation here.

Coming soon in the Survivor series .... a group of ME Muslims will be placed in a patch of their old homeland to get by with their basic cultural tools and such - meantime a comparable group of ockers will be dropped into a major city centre with their cultural tools... let's see who survives best!!
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salad in wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 8:07am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
The only thing missing in her speech was "Final Solution" - final solution for the invaders


Better backtrack on that statement B.

Aborigines: The First Out of Africa, the First in Asia and Australia


New research in the journal Science presents a number of firsts for Aboriginal Australians.

The first genome analysis of an Aborigine reveals that these early Australians took part in the first human migration out of Africa. They were the first to arrive in Asia some 70,000 years ago, roaming the area at least 24,000 years before the ancestors of present-day Europeans and Asians. They were also the first to live in Australia, according to DNA results of a 90-year-old hair sample of a young man that link Aborigines to the first inhabitants of this part of the world about 50,000 years ago.

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/food/main%20rasmussen2HR.jpg

Seems like the first to 'invade' this big land known as Australia were Aborigines. Facts sure do weaken the 'white invasion' myth.



I'm won't dispute that

What I was implying was that her speech was divisive. And it was coming from someone who had not one vote to their name. Common decency should have told her not to be so political until she at least had some votes under her belt

To deride people who she considers invaders when she herself is an invader, is beyond the pale. She was in the Parliament of the "invaders" making that speech, and presumable Aboriginal people voted for some of the parliamentarians there - giving their consent to the "invaders" to continue governing the country

If she contests the next election as a candidate and wins votes, what will she think about the invaders then? she's likely to go a bit quiet suffering from "Immigrants' Remorse" - they all do. After a while they begin to realize they're just one more "invader", because they'd rather stay in Australia than go back home, and they strive to do everything contrary to Aboriginal ways (that doesn't mean we should live like Aboriginals in the bush), just as the rest of us "foreign invaders" are doing. But she'll want Islam, Sharia law, mosques, she may even want some secularism just to appease the invader infidel while she indulges in her self interest

As far as the Aboriginals invading the island continent is concerned, how do you invade a country if no one else lives there? Besides, it's coming to light now that the Aboriginals moved further south because of massive volcanic eruptions spewing fallout over vast areas of Asia making life a little difficult all those thousands of years ago, ash and poisonous gases are probably what drove them out of Asia, otherwise they might still be there   
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Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 11:56am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:58am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:51am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:12am:
cods wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:48am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:43am:
there was no STOLEN and it wasn't a GENERATION...

more lies from the PC Left and their victimhood victims

clearly since even aboriginals say they don't own the land they "belong" land then they never owned it in any sense legal or otherwise.


Oh, they were stolen alright.

No surprise that you're defending such behaviour, though.




I am sure a lot was wrong in those times  and I hate anyone making it a political football...

my point was has it helped our friends  that we stopped. STEALING THE CHILDREN ?

what I read now is n o one is game to remove an aboriginal child  for a very bad situation....

is that a good thing do you think?....

what is the answer?  do you have one?


I'm not sure what you read is true.

"It took another 10 years after the report just to get a formal government apology to the stolen generations (the subject of one of the recommendations).

"As much as prime minister Kevin Rudd’s words were eloquent, they were ultimately meaningless; the number of Aboriginal children in out-of-home care has more than doubled since his apology.

"That brings us to where we are now: with well over 17,000 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children currently removed from their homes by statutory authorities.

"Modelling by the Family Matters campaign shows that this number will more than triple by 2036 if we keep doing things the same way."


Removing Aboriginal children from their families has failed. There is another way

What's the other way?


Read the article.

He outlined a four point plan.


All families enjoy access to quality, culturally safe, universal and targeted services necessary for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children to thrive;
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people and organisations participate in and have control over decisions that affect their children;
Law, policy and practice in child and family welfare are culturally safe and responsive;
Governments and services are accountable to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.




but that's a load of claptrap .


dontcha love the Guardian   after a huge lecture   from god knows who... they then beg for donations   so they can keep on pillaring us.   with their version of our history.


WHY HAS THE FIGURES DOUBLED????

of course its whiteys fault no one would dare deny that!!  maybe we need to throw more money at the problem..rather than just expect them to raise their standards of child care... Angry Angry Angry

didnt someone think we were going to fix everything with the Sorry speech.. and the sorry day walks and backslaps..... what happened to them btw???>...

look the day some folks start accepting their own responsibilities when it comes to bringing up their children......we just may see an improvement....

that also goes for any white family  that treat their children worse than cattle....

I am sick of it.. sick of the so called dogooders who keep making excuses for people who should never be parents in the first place... Angry Angry

god we even allow them to keep on breeding...
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cods wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 2:33pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 11:56am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:58am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:51am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:12am:
cods wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:48am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:43am:
there was no STOLEN and it wasn't a GENERATION...

more lies from the PC Left and their victimhood victims

clearly since even aboriginals say they don't own the land they "belong" land then they never owned it in any sense legal or otherwise.


Oh, they were stolen alright.

No surprise that you're defending such behaviour, though.




I am sure a lot was wrong in those times  and I hate anyone making it a political football...

my point was has it helped our friends  that we stopped. STEALING THE CHILDREN ?

what I read now is n o one is game to remove an aboriginal child  for a very bad situation....

is that a good thing do you think?....

what is the answer?  do you have one?


I'm not sure what you read is true.

"It took another 10 years after the report just to get a formal government apology to the stolen generations (the subject of one of the recommendations).

"As much as prime minister Kevin Rudd’s words were eloquent, they were ultimately meaningless; the number of Aboriginal children in out-of-home care has more than doubled since his apology.

"That brings us to where we are now: with well over 17,000 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children currently removed from their homes by statutory authorities.

"Modelling by the Family Matters campaign shows that this number will more than triple by 2036 if we keep doing things the same way."


Removing Aboriginal children from their families has failed. There is another way

What's the other way?


Read the article.

He outlined a four point plan.


All families enjoy access to quality, culturally safe, universal and targeted services necessary for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children to thrive;
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people and organisations participate in and have control over decisions that affect their children;
Law, policy and practice in child and family welfare are culturally safe and responsive;
Governments and services are accountable to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.




but that's a load of claptrap .


dontcha love the Guardian   after a huge lecture   from god knows who... they then beg for donations   so they can keep on pillaring us.   with their version of our history.


WHY HAS THE FIGURES DOUBLED????

of course its whiteys fault no one would dare deny that!!  maybe we need to throw more money at the problem..rather than just expect them to raise their standards of child care... Angry Angry Angry

didnt someone think we were going to fix everything with the Sorry speech.. and the sorry day walks and backslaps..... what happened to them btw???>...

look the day some folks start accepting their own responsibilities when it comes to bringing up their children......we just may see an improvement....

that also goes for any white family  that treat their children worse than cattle....

I am sick of it.. sick of the so called dogooders who keep making excuses for people who should never be parents in the first place... Angry Angry

god we even allow them to keep on breeding...

They want a treaty Cods. Saying sorry over and over means nothing. They want every aborigine in Australia (half blood, no blood) to have rent paid to them and for the titles of our land  passed over.
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Reply #89 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 3:52pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 3:46pm:
cods wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 2:33pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 11:56am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:58am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:51am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:12am:
cods wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:48am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:43am:
there was no STOLEN and it wasn't a GENERATION...

more lies from the PC Left and their victimhood victims

clearly since even aboriginals say they don't own the land they "belong" land then they never owned it in any sense legal or otherwise.


Oh, they were stolen alright.

No surprise that you're defending such behaviour, though.




I am sure a lot was wrong in those times  and I hate anyone making it a political football...

my point was has it helped our friends  that we stopped. STEALING THE CHILDREN ?

what I read now is n o one is game to remove an aboriginal child  for a very bad situation....

is that a good thing do you think?....

what is the answer?  do you have one?


I'm not sure what you read is true.

"It took another 10 years after the report just to get a formal government apology to the stolen generations (the subject of one of the recommendations).

"As much as prime minister Kevin Rudd’s words were eloquent, they were ultimately meaningless; the number of Aboriginal children in out-of-home care has more than doubled since his apology.

"That brings us to where we are now: with well over 17,000 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children currently removed from their homes by statutory authorities.

"Modelling by the Family Matters campaign shows that this number will more than triple by 2036 if we keep doing things the same way."


Removing Aboriginal children from their families has failed. There is another way

What's the other way?


Read the article.

He outlined a four point plan.


All families enjoy access to quality, culturally safe, universal and targeted services necessary for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children to thrive;
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people and organisations participate in and have control over decisions that affect their children;
Law, policy and practice in child and family welfare are culturally safe and responsive;
Governments and services are accountable to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.




but that's a load of claptrap .


dontcha love the Guardian   after a huge lecture   from god knows who... they then beg for donations   so they can keep on pillaring us.   with their version of our history.


WHY HAS THE FIGURES DOUBLED????

of course its whiteys fault no one would dare deny that!!  maybe we need to throw more money at the problem..rather than just expect them to raise their standards of child care... Angry Angry Angry

didnt someone think we were going to fix everything with the Sorry speech.. and the sorry day walks and backslaps..... what happened to them btw???>...

look the day some folks start accepting their own responsibilities when it comes to bringing up their children......we just may see an improvement....

that also goes for any white family  that treat their children worse than cattle....

I am sick of it.. sick of the so called dogooders who keep making excuses for people who should never be parents in the first place... Angry Angry

god we even allow them to keep on breeding...

They want a treaty Cods. Saying sorry over and over means nothing. They want every aborigine in Australia (half blood, no blood) to have rent paid to them and for the titles of our land  passed over.



"half blood, no blood"   Grin

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Reply #90 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 3:56pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:45am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:43am:
there was no STOLEN and it wasn't a GENERATION...

more lies from the PC Left and their victimhood victims




Well they weren't returned and it wasn't just one, so what do we call it.


The same thing happens to all children who suffer neglect & abuse ....

the state removes them for their own safety & well being.

There's more non Aboriginal children who were removed from their families ....

were they a "stolen generation"? or "generations?".
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Reply #91 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 3:57pm
 
cods wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:48am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:43am:
there was no STOLEN and it wasn't a GENERATION...

more lies from the PC Left and their victimhood victims

clearly since even aboriginals say they don't own the land they "belong" land then they never owned it in any sense legal or otherwise.


Oh, they were stolen alright.

No surprise that you're defending such behaviour, though.




I am sure a lot was wrong in those times  and I hate anyone making it a political football...

my point was has it helped our friends  that we stopped. STEALING THE CHILDREN ?

what I read now is n o one is game to remove an aboriginal child  for a very bad situation....

is that a good thing do you think?....

what is the answer?  do you have one?


They weren't stolen in the first place.
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It's funny how nobody mentions all the single white women who had their babies forcibly taken from them?
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Reply #93 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 4:01pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:12am:
cods wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:48am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:43am:
there was no STOLEN and it wasn't a GENERATION...

more lies from the PC Left and their victimhood victims

clearly since even aboriginals say they don't own the land they "belong" land then they never owned it in any sense legal or otherwise.


Oh, they were stolen alright.

No surprise that you're defending such behaviour, though.




I am sure a lot was wrong in those times  and I hate anyone making it a political football...

my point was has it helped our friends  that we stopped. STEALING THE CHILDREN ?

what I read now is n o one is game to remove an aboriginal child  for a very bad situation....

is that a good thing do you think?....

what is the answer?  do you have one?


I'm not sure what you read is true.

"It took another 10 years after the report just to get a formal government apology to the stolen generations (the subject of one of the recommendations).

"As much as prime minister Kevin Rudd’s words were eloquent, they were ultimately meaningless; the number of Aboriginal children in out-of-home care has more than doubled since his apology.

"That brings us to where we are now: with well over 17,000 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children currently removed from their homes by statutory authorities.

"Modelling by the Family Matters campaign shows that this number will more than triple by 2036 if we keep doing things the same way."


Removing Aboriginal children from their families has failed. There is another way


17,000 A&TI'S ...... how many non Aboriginal children currently removed from their families?

Whether they are "Homes"- is a matter of further debate.
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Reply #94 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 4:07pm
 
Gnads wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 3:57pm:
cods wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:48am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:43am:
there was no STOLEN and it wasn't a GENERATION...

more lies from the PC Left and their victimhood victims

clearly since even aboriginals say they don't own the land they "belong" land then they never owned it in any sense legal or otherwise.


Oh, they were stolen alright.

No surprise that you're defending such behaviour, though.




I am sure a lot was wrong in those times  and I hate anyone making it a political football...

my point was has it helped our friends  that we stopped. STEALING THE CHILDREN ?

what I read now is n o one is game to remove an aboriginal child  for a very bad situation....

is that a good thing do you think?....

what is the answer?  do you have one?


They weren't stolen in the first place.


They certainly were.

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Reply #95 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 4:10pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 4:07pm:
Gnads wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 3:57pm:
cods wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:48am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:43am:
there was no STOLEN and it wasn't a GENERATION...

more lies from the PC Left and their victimhood victims

clearly since even aboriginals say they don't own the land they "belong" land then they never owned it in any sense legal or otherwise.


Oh, they were stolen alright.

No surprise that you're defending such behaviour, though.




I am sure a lot was wrong in those times  and I hate anyone making it a political football...

my point was has it helped our friends  that we stopped. STEALING THE CHILDREN ?

what I read now is n o one is game to remove an aboriginal child  for a very bad situation....

is that a good thing do you think?....

what is the answer?  do you have one?


They weren't stolen in the first place.


They certainly were.


And many were taken because the aborigines used to bang the half blood kids on the head with a rock .
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Reply #96 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 4:31pm
 
Gnads wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 3:56pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:45am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:43am:
there was no STOLEN and it wasn't a GENERATION...

more lies from the PC Left and their victimhood victims




Well they weren't returned and it wasn't just one, so what do we call it.


The same thing happens to all children who suffer neglect & abuse ....

the state removes them for their own safety & well being.

There's more non Aboriginal children who were removed from their families ....

were they a "stolen generation"? or "generations?".


I've told yez before - a drug-addled niece of mine has has half a dozen kids taken from her - and she's as white as the snow...
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Reply #97 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 5:14pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 4:07pm:
Gnads wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 3:57pm:
cods wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:48am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:43am:
there was no STOLEN and it wasn't a GENERATION...

more lies from the PC Left and their victimhood victims

clearly since even aboriginals say they don't own the land they "belong" land then they never owned it in any sense legal or otherwise.


Oh, they were stolen alright.

No surprise that you're defending such behaviour, though.




I am sure a lot was wrong in those times  and I hate anyone making it a political football...

my point was has it helped our friends  that we stopped. STEALING THE CHILDREN ?

what I read now is n o one is game to remove an aboriginal child  for a very bad situation....

is that a good thing do you think?....

what is the answer?  do you have one?


They weren't stolen in the first place.


They certainly were.



And your evidence????????????

Factual, proven and named stolen children??????????

Not just anecdotal meanderings of a bunch of bludgers looking for a payout.


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Reply #98 - Aug 29th, 2018 at 5:17pm
 
Gnads wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 4:01pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:12am:
cods wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:48am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 29th, 2018 at 9:43am:
there was no STOLEN and it wasn't a GENERATION...

more lies from the PC Left and their victimhood victims

clearly since even aboriginals say they don't own the land they "belong" land then they never owned it in any sense legal or otherwise.


Oh, they were stolen alright.

No surprise that you're defending such behaviour, though.




I am sure a lot was wrong in those times  and I hate anyone making it a political football...

my point was has it helped our friends  that we stopped. STEALING THE CHILDREN ?

what I read now is n o one is game to remove an aboriginal child  for a very bad situation....

is that a good thing do you think?....

what is the answer?  do you have one?


I'm not sure what you read is true.

"It took another 10 years after the report just to get a formal government apology to the stolen generations (the subject of one of the recommendations).

"As much as prime minister Kevin Rudd’s words were eloquent, they were ultimately meaningless; the number of Aboriginal children in out-of-home care has more than doubled since his apology.

"That brings us to where we are now: with well over 17,000 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children currently removed from their homes by statutory authorities.

"Modelling by the Family Matters campaign shows that this number will more than triple by 2036 if we keep doing things the same way."


Removing Aboriginal children from their families has failed. There is another way


17,000 A&TI'S ...... how many non Aboriginal children currently removed from their families?

Whether they are "Homes"- is a matter of further debate.



Is it better to remove young children from abusive parents
Or
Leave them there to be beaten, raped and murdered?

Our wonderful aboriginal population have the highest number of child rape cases of any group in Australia.
No child is safe.
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Reply #99 - Aug 30th, 2018 at 8:18am
 
Clearly gweggy and people like him are fools...

There was no STOLEN and it wasn't a GENERATION...

more lies from the PC Left and their victimhood victims

clearly since even aboriginals say they don't own the land they "belong" land then they never owned it in any sense legal or otherwise.


BTW gweggy I didn't defend anything nor make any excuses, YOU are a liar.

Just posting some facts.
Live in denial and ignorance all you like, obviously it doesn't matter how many of us try and educate you, you refuse to listen or accept reality. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Stolen land' is BS


Last month, Greens Senator Dr Mehreen Faruqi spoke some of the most misguided and divisive words heard in parliament in recent times. She said: ‘We are subject to rules that white people never are’ and claimed that a ‘culture of online harassment, bullying and toxicity now targets everyone who is not a straight white man’.
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Her speech begins with: ‘We are gathered here today on stolen land’. Wrong. Australia was lawfully conquered and settled by the British Empire in accordance with the international norms of the old world order. That was a ‘might makes right’ world. Whoever could raise an army and conquer land did so. Muslim Arabs and Turks have had their fair share of conquests, as have Christian Europeans. The Treaty of Westphalia in 1648 sowed the seeds for the modern concept of territorial sovereignty within demarcated borders. Though it wasn’t until 1928 under the General Treaty for Renunciation of War as an Instrument of National Policy that territorial acquisition by force was first attempted to be outlawed through consensus among international signatories.
Otherwise known as the Kellogg-Briand Pact (after its authors US Secretary of State Frank B. Kellogg and French foreign minister Aristide Briand), this 1928 pact of course didn’t succeed in immediately putting an end to all war. In fact, World War II, the most destructive of all conflicts still managed to occur only a decade later. Yet the importance of the pact came in its aftermath.
Shortly after the emergence of the United Nations, its Charter went on to guaranteeing ‘territorial integrity’ to member states. In the process, any territory acquired before the 1928 pact was deemed lawfully conquered under a ‘right of conquest’. Borders essentially became frozen in place and future conquests were made unlawful.
This prohibition was not applied retroactively. Doing so would have thrown the entire world into turmoil since virtually every piece of land has, at some point, been conquered by outside forces – or to use Dr Faruqi’s rhetoric, ‘stolen’.
Since Australia was settled in 1788  – a century and four decades prior to the cut-off point for lawful conquests in 1928  – its territorial legitimacy has never been in doubt. Hence, there are no legal or historical grounds to think of Australia’s founding as land ‘theft’.
As someone who identifies as a Muslim, Dr Faruqi should know of Islamic civilisation’s own territorial conquests far beyond the outskirts of Mecca in the 7th century stretching all the way to Spain in the west and China in the east.
Does she believe the Arabic-speaking Islamic countries that today stretch across North Africa, having conquered and replaced the indigenous Egyptian, Carthaginian, Berber and Nubian civilisations are all ‘stolen lands’? Does she believe that Iran, once home to an indigenous Avestan-speaking Zoroastrian culture, is ‘stolen land’?
There was once an indigenous Hindu civilisation in Dr Faruqi’s own country of origin, Pakistan. Islam was first introduced in the region by Umayyad conqueror Muhammad Bin Qasim in 711. Does she believe that Pakistan is built on ‘stolen land’? One wonders, was Dr Faruqi not aware of Australia’s colonial history prior to her arrival? If so, why bother choosing to migrate to a country whose historical foundations fill you with such moral dread?
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Worse yet, she goes on to declare: ‘I bring to this chamber my track record on shaking things up and shifting the agenda on issues as diverse as decriminalising abortion, drug law reform, LGBTQI rights, the right to die with dignity and protecting our environment.’
With the exception of protecting the environment, literally everything else on her list is at complete odds with Islam. There isn’t one credible scholar of mainstream Islamic jurisprudence from any one of the four Sunni (Hanafi, Shafi’i, Maliki and Hanbali) and three Shi’ite (Ithna Ashari, Isma’ili and Zaidi) schools of thought that has ruled in favour of abortion, drugs, same-sex marriage, gender fluidity and euthanasia.
What Dr Faruqi seems to be following isn’t exactly ‘Islam’. It’s her own ideological fusion tinged with cultural Marxism, third-wave feminism and post-colonialism which she thinks is Islam when she boasts in her speech which she thinks is Islam when she boasts in her speech of being ‘unapologetically… a brown, Muslim, migrant’. This alliance between secular Muslim activists and the far-Left isn’t one based on strict theological, jurisprudential or moral consistency. They’re not united by common values so much as they’re united against a common enemy; that is, Anglo-Celtic, Judeo-Christian Western civilisation.
As long as secular Muslim activists are provided a platform by the far-Left to fight imaginary ‘racism’, ‘white privilege’ and ‘colonialism’, they will continue to appropriate the values of the far-Left into their political goals without shame even if that means deviating from established Islamic jurisprudence.
The radicals are easy enough to identify. It’s their secular counterparts that are often more dangerous in the long run, because they’re the ones who end up being elected to parliament and then use the institution as a vehicle to advance their goals.
By her own admission, Dr Faruqi’s speech was precisely that.
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