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1912 Newspaper Article Predicts Global Warming
Aug 19th, 2018 at 12:00pm
 
Check it out. If only we'd heeded the warning then !

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/1912-article-global-warming/

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The furnaces of the world are now burning about 2,000,000,000 tons of coal a year. When this is burned, uniting with oxygen, it adds about 7,000,000,000 tons of carbon dioxide to the atmosphere yearly. This tends to make the air a more effective blanket for the earth and to raise its temperature. The effect may be considerable in a few centuries.


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Reply #1 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 12:30pm
 
combine that with deforestation

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Reply #2 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 12:30pm
 
Discovery of fossil fuels was heralded as CHEAP ENERGY for rich and poor alike.

Somehow I don't think the oligarchy like that cliché.

September 1957 - arctic decreases by 40%

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May 1947 - arctic melting

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/22429983?searchTerm=climate%20change&sea...

November 1922 - arctic melting

http://docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/050/mwr-050-11-0589a.pdf
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Reply #3 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 12:32pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 12:30pm:
combine that with deforestation

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If the dooms dayers were for real why don't they crack down on deforestation.

Put an end to it right now, after all it spells our destruction right.

Why is the only panacea to tax people on the air they breathe through the stock markets. 
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Reply #4 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 1:08pm
 
Just think all that lovely electricity available in the west.

It enabled people to have light to study. (Far better than tallow candles or whale oil.)
It enabled great advances in medicine.
It enabled great advances in transportation.
It enabled great advances in electronics.
It enabled great advances in human longevity.

Edit: I forgot to mention the increase in crop production.

It stopped cities like New York from being buried under horse dung. ( I guess there had to be a downside.) Wink

Of course I'm sure LostNail can tell us how much measured temperature increase we have from AGW. As opposed to normal warming coming out of the LIA.
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Reply #5 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 5:38pm
 
How cold was the LIA, Prof. Lees?
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Reply #6 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 6:01pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 5:38pm:
How cold was the LIA, Prof. Lees?



Cold enough to skate on the Thames. Grin Grin Grin

Cold enough for an elephant to walk on the Thames
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Reply #7 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 6:29pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 1:08pm:
Just think all that lovely electricity available in the west.

It enabled people to have light to study. (Far better than tallow candles or whale oil.)
It enabled great advances in medicine.
It enabled great advances in transportation.
It enabled great advances in electronics.
It enabled great advances in human longevity.

Edit: I forgot to mention the increase in crop production.

It stopped cities like New York from being buried under horse dung. ( I guess there had to be a downside.) Wink

Of course I'm sure LostNail can tell us how much measured temperature increase we have from AGW. As opposed to normal warming coming out of the LIA.


So for how long more do we get to enjoy these so called great advances if we end up trashing the planet we all live in ? It now appears that your fake oil based economies and printed dollar bills are nothing more than some failed abstract economic model you read about in some outdated economics text book.

You see it was all an illusion !


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Reply #8 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 6:33pm
 
Ajax wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 12:30pm:
Discovery of fossil fuels was heralded as CHEAP ENERGY for rich and poor alike.



Only for the rich. Have you ever seen a fossil fool bowser owner ever talk like they have won the lottery ? The truth of the matter is selling fossil fool is just a means to get people into their shop to buy other stuff with decent profit margins. They make virtually nothing from the sales of fossil fool. It's a real scam.
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Reply #9 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 7:03pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 6:01pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 5:38pm:
How cold was the LIA, Prof. Lees?



Cold enough to skate on the Thames. Grin Grin Grin

Cold enough for an elephant to walk on the Thames


So you don’t know how cold the LIA was or you would rather not say that.
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Reply #10 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 7:17pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 7:03pm:
So you don’t know how cold the LIA was or you would rather not say that.



What was it you were saying 0.3ºC cooler? They must have had warm ice. Wink
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Reply #11 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 7:58pm
 
I didn’t say that about the LIA.

Oh dear, you rely on “recovering from the LIA” to explain the warming from AGW.

We are well above MWP temperatures.

You don’t know nothing about a lot of things, eh Pretend Professor of Prattling Pointlessly.
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Reply #12 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 8:20pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 7:58pm:
I didn’t say that about the LIA.


Well please enlighten us. How much cooler was the LIA?

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 7:58pm:
We are well above MWP temperatures.



Define "well above" Wink


Also cite the paper. Multiple papers say the opposite.


Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 7:58pm:
You don’t know nothing about a lot of things, eh Pretend Professor of Prattling Pointlessly.


So taking out the double negative I know a lot about a lot of things. Thank you.
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Reply #13 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 8:26pm
 
You can find out HM cooler the LIA was than the decades after.

No, scammers and their dupes like Booby say the MWP was warmer than now. It wasn’t.

Some Googling to do, Pointless Pretend Professor Lees.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 8:26pm:
No, scammers and their dupes like Booby say the MWP was warmer than now. It wasn’t.



And the peer-reviewed papers that say it was? Greenland wasn't really a Greenland but a scam to sell real estate? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin GrinJovial Monk wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 8:26pm:
Some Googling to do, Pointless Pretend Professor Lees.



I have done it. And I have never pretended to be a professor. You just like making schit up don't you?

So tell us more on how global temperatures are measured. Wink
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So, know nothing, eh?
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Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 8:39pm:
So, know nothing, eh?


So can't cite a reference. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 6:29pm:
So for how long more do we get to enjoy these so called great advances if we end up trashing the planet we all live in ? It now appears that your fake oil based economies and printed dollar bills are nothing more than some failed abstract economic model you read about in some outdated economics text book.

You see it was all an illusion !


So you didn't benefit from electric light? No schooling? No medicines? No increased life expectancy?

Worked using candles?

You poor little possum. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 8:39pm:
So, know nothing, eh?


So can't cite a reference. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Says the fraud crapping on about “recovery from the LIA.”

The LIA was not even a real ice age so how much recovery is needed, Pretend Professor Lees?
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Reply #19 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 9:32pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 9:15pm:
Says the fraud crapping on about “recovery from the LIA.”

The LIA was not even a real ice age so how much recovery is needed, Pretend Professor Lees?



That must be why it was called a LITTLE Ice Age. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
And still no reference. Wink
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lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 8:48pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 6:29pm:
So for how long more do we get to enjoy these so called great advances if we end up trashing the planet we all live in ? It now appears that your fake oil based economies and printed dollar bills are nothing more than some failed abstract economic model you read about in some outdated economics text book.

You see it was all an illusion !


So you didn't benefit from electric light? No schooling? No medicines? No increased life expectancy?

Worked using candles?

You poor little possum. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Increased life expectancy with a cutoff date Cheesy Grin Cheesy LOL
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Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 9:44pm:
Increased life expectancy with a cutoff date



I'm sorry. I didn't know you wanted immortality. Grin Grin Grin Grin

So what part of the few centuries do you think you have? Wink
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lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 9:32pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 9:15pm:
Says the fraud crapping on about “recovery from the LIA.”

The LIA was not even a real ice age so how much recovery is needed, Pretend Professor Lees?



That must be why it was called a LITTLE Ice Age. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
And still no reference. Wink


You are telling the story, you are talking about a “recovery from the LIA” etc.

LIA is a misnomer. No ice sheets—even you should know that, Pointless Pretend Prof Lees.
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Reply #23 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 11:32pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 9:45pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 9:44pm:
Increased life expectancy with a cutoff date



I'm sorry. I didn't know you wanted immortality. Grin Grin Grin Grin

So what part of the few centuries do you think you have? Wink


Not long to go with all of the plastic sh.t in the ocean poisoning all of the ocean life Sad

All in the name of advancements too !!
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Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 11:32pm:
Not long to go with all of the plastic sh.t in the ocean poisoning all of the ocean life



The Great Pacific Plastic Gyre? Grin Grin Grin

Is all plastic toxic? Even naturally occurring plastics? You do know plastics break down?

There are also naturally occurring microbes that eat plastic? And oil?

Not that littering is a good thing.

So what are the chance of a large asteroid strike wiping out the earth?
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Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 10:16pm:
You are telling the story, you are talking about a “recovery from the LIA” etc.

LIA is a misnomer. No ice sheets—even you should know that, Pointless Pretend Prof Lees.



So give us the citations. Wink
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lee wrote on Aug 20th, 2018 at 11:21am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 11:32pm:
Not long to go with all of the plastic sh.t in the ocean poisoning all of the ocean life



The Great Pacific Plastic Gyre? Grin Grin Grin

Is all plastic toxic? Even naturally occurring plastics? You do know plastics break down?

There are also naturally occurring microbes that eat plastic? And oil?

Not that littering is a good thing.

So what are the chance of a large asteroid strike wiping out the earth?


try putting a plastic bag over your head or swallowing one and let me know how you go. You never know it may decompose quick enough before you die of asphyxiation or starvation Cheesy LOL

You really should throw away that 101 excuse book and stop defending the indefensible ! You really are looking like another brain dead LNP voter !

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Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2018 at 12:31pm:
try putting a plastic bag over your head or swallowing one and let me know how you go. You never know it may decompose quick enough before you die of asphyxiation or starvation


You are the one complaining. Do it yourself.

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2018 at 12:31pm:
You really should throw away that 101 excuse book and stop defending the indefensible !



Oh dear. What was indefensible about the post?

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2018 at 12:31pm:
You really are looking like another brain dead LNP voter



So no reasoned argument then. Just you disagree therefore you are wrong. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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lee wrote on Aug 20th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2018 at 12:31pm:
try putting a plastic bag over your head or swallowing one and let me know how you go. You never know it may decompose quick enough before you die of asphyxiation or starvation


You are the one complaining. Do it yourself.



No you do it since you say it is not a problem. And tell the rest of you LNP environmental vandals to do it as well. See how you feel to take a dose of your own medicine. And whilst you're at it swallow some of those plastic dollar bills that you are obsessed with  Cheesy LOL
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Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2018 at 2:34pm:
No you do it since you say it is not a problem



Really? Making Schit up?

lee wrote on Aug 20th, 2018 at 11:21am:
Not that littering is a good thing.


Can't even get your argument straight. Grin Grin Grin Grin

So tell me the countries that have the greatest plastic littering problem.

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lee wrote on Aug 20th, 2018 at 2:40pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2018 at 2:34pm:
No you do it since you say it is not a problem



Really? Making Schit up?

lee wrote on Aug 20th, 2018 at 11:21am:
Not that littering is a good thing.


Can't even get your argument straight. Grin Grin Grin Grin

So tell me the countries that have the greatest plastic littering problem.



Read what you wrote again. You're an apologist for human plastic garbage in the ocean.

Check it out. Looks like the plastic sh.t is really breaking down quickly. What a joke you are mate Sad






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Reply #31 - Aug 20th, 2018 at 4:26pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2018 at 3:23pm:
lee wrote Today at 12:40pm:
Sir lastnail wrote Today at 12:34pm:
No you do it since you say it is not a problem



Really? Making Schit up?

lee wrote Today at 9:21am:
Not that littering is a good thing.


Can't even get your argument straight. Grin Grin Grin Grin

So tell me the countries that have the greatest plastic littering problem.



Read what you wrote again. You're an apologist for human plastic garbage in the ocean.



I know what I wrote. I also know what you are trying to twist it into. Give it up.

Did you check on which countries lead the plastic pollution?  Oh I see you discovered Bali. Now try the rest of Asia and Africa.

Did you also check on natural plastics?
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lee wrote on Aug 20th, 2018 at 4:26pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2018 at 3:23pm:
lee wrote Today at 12:40pm:
Sir lastnail wrote Today at 12:34pm:
No you do it since you say it is not a problem



Really? Making Schit up?

lee wrote Today at 9:21am:
Not that littering is a good thing.


Can't even get your argument straight. Grin Grin Grin Grin

So tell me the countries that have the greatest plastic littering problem.



Read what you wrote again. You're an apologist for human plastic garbage in the ocean.



I know what I wrote. I also know what you are trying to twist it into. Give it up.

Did you check on which countries lead the plastic pollution?  Oh I see you discovered Bali. Now try the rest of Asia and Africa.

Did you also check on natural plastics?


Yeh it's all ok because there is some natural plastics in the mix Cheesy LOL
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Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 20th, 2018 at 11:51pm:
Yeh it's all ok because there is some natural plastics in the mix


I notice you don't want to discuss the plastic pollution emanating from Asia and Africa. Why is that? It doesn't support your hypothesis? That it is the western countries? How sad for you. Cry
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